darkSpyro

I was going to Pre order the Dark edition for Wii U and was wondering if any place in particular had any preorder bonuses. I remember last year when I pre ordered the dark edition Swap Force from Gamestop I got a Light Core Hex for free

I guess sales are going great, because I haven't heard of any pre order bonuses yet.

When I preordered at Gamestop, I got a Wind-up single pack for free.

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When I preordered at Gamestop, I got a Wind-up single pack for free.

Like the same day you preordered it? Cuz I preordered mine at Gamestop, but didn't get anything.

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When I preordered at Gamestop, I got a Wind-up single pack for free.

Like the same day you preordered it? Cuz I preordered mine at Gamestop, but didn't get anything.

Yeah. It was their "Skylanders Day", though, which may have made it a one-day deal.

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I guess sales are going great, because I haven't heard of any pre order bonuses yet.

Target has the trap with the "exclusive" villain. TRU has the legendary "grab bag". That's about it from what I have heard.

I'm kinda surprised stores don't at least have a free figure (like Infinity). If you get the mega "collectors" Infinity for PS3/PS4 you can get a free playset (GotG or Spider-man) instead of a figure.

Yeah, I guess pre-orders are going well, because pretty soon is when they would be locking down their initial orders with Activision and counts. Maybe they are all going with Day 1 specials instead to move Starters. I know the lack of a good pre-order bonus is part of the reason I'm sitting out until Black Friday (hoping for a $30 deal then, like last year), I'm not about to pay full tilt unless they have a REALLY good teaser - and a free trap or bag full of clearance crap isn't it. I doubt even a free regular figure would do it for me, except maybe a Trap Master if Best Buy offered it since I can get the Gamer's Club discount.

I do have to admit, the other part of me waiting has to do with getting an XBOne for Christmas for the family. I'd rather wait for that version since there is no use buying for a system we don't have yet.

One of the seller at Gamestop told me that there was a bonus figure coming with the pack (that is not Gearshift), but he he did not know which one it was.

Ohh really that's ok then I just wanted to check to make sure before I pre ordered it

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I do have to admit, the other part of me waiting has to do with getting an XBOne for Christmas for the family. I'd rather wait for that version since there is no use buying for a system we don't have yet.

As soon as Sony has a form factor redesign, fixes their controller "rubber" issue and knock the price down I'll finally grab me a PS4. I hope this happens before Akham Knight is delivered.

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I do have to admit, the other part of me waiting has to do with getting an XBOne for Christmas for the family. I'd rather wait for that version since there is no use buying for a system we don't have yet.

As soon as Sony has a form factor redesign, fixes their controller "rubber" issue and knock the price down I'll finally grab me a PS4. I hope this happens before Akham Knight is delivered.

Sorey, not happening. The controllers usually don't change, and let's face it, the play station controllers have never been the best. As for a price drop it's not gonna happen anytime soon really, especially before Arkham Knight.

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Sorey, not happening. The controllers usually don't change, and let's face it, the play station controllers have never been the best. As for a price drop it's not gonna happen anytime soon really, especially before Arkham Knight.

Yeah, I wouldn't expect any sort of controller change beyond colors. The only reason they added rumble after the fact last generation was Sony was trying to cheap out on the technology due to patents. The PS Move was a bust and Six Axis was hardly ever used after the first generation, so I don't see them doing controller updates again this time around.

I agree on the Playstation controllers, and it is one of the reasons I'll choose XBOne (the other being XBox Fitness since my wife is into Shaun T/Tony Horton workouts, although it means I'll have to go with the Kinect as well) - the XBox controllers are far superior (to me and my hands) to the PS ones. I've never been fond of the tension levels in their analog sticks, too loose and floaty. PS4 might pop up on my radar again down the road with Uncharted 4, I thought The Order sounded like a system seller, but I've read some disappointing things about it lately.

And yes, Arkham Knight is a big reason I'm thinking upgrade now.

I found the Xbox controllers too bulky for me, I personally like the Sony controllers. Maybe I need a better taste of the third party market. I'll just buy "rubbers" for my controller, that's just pooooooorr design by Sony. I do expect some hardware optimization in the next year though. I don't mind waiting for the GOTY Edition before the price change hits.

I love the feel of the Xbox One controller the most out of all of them I've used. Helps that the left and right trigger and bumper buttons have practical no resistance. @defpally. I enjoy Xbox fitness. I've never really been "in shaoe", mind you I'm not fat, but nothing to brag about either, but having that as a free program for 2014 has been really nice. I MAY get a ps4, but my next console is going to be a WII U, they are building up a number of games I want to play. But after that, who knows. I'd love to finally get to play The Last of Us.

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I found the Xbox controllers too bulky for me, I personally like the Sony controllers. Maybe I need a better taste of the third party market. I'll just buy "rubbers" for my controller, that's just pooooooorr design by Sony. I do expect some hardware optimization in the next year though. I don't mind waiting for the GOTY Edition before the price change hits.

Third Party controllers are no bueno. I've yet to find a truly reliable one in my many console years and many consoles. The closest were ASCII ones in the SNES days, but then again they helped design the original SNES controllers, so hat's self explanatory. The closest I've done lately is I have two of those MadCatz XBox 360 fight sticks, but even with those I replaced all the buttons and sticks with real arcade parts (one Sanwa, the other Seimitsu) - so I really just used them for the case and circuit board. Back in 1990ish, I worked in an arcade and got some real Happ sticks and buttons and pad hacked (where you attach wires with solder to a disassembled pad circuit board) my original SNES pads into fight sticks for Street Fighter 2, back before pad hacking was a thing. I had a full-on 2 player arcade stick setup for my SNES and it was awesome.

The original XBox controllers ARE waaay too bulky. They did much better with the 360 and the XBOne seem good as well (from my limited experience). The main thing they messed up on the 360 was the pad, but it is much better with the transforming one (although still no where close to Nintendo ones). Sony's pad is about in the middle for me.

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I love the feel of the Xbox One controller the most out of all of them I've used. Helps that the left and right trigger and bumper buttons have practical no resistance. @defpally. I enjoy Xbox fitness. I've never really been "in shaoe", mind you I'm not fat, but nothing to brag about either, but having that as a free program for 2014 has been really nice. I MAY get a ps4, but my next console is going to be a WII U, they are building up a number of games I want to play. But after that, who knows. I'd love to finally get to play The Last of Us.

I like my One contollers the second most of all my trollers. I find the stock 360 'S' versions to be the best still. The XBOne was headed in the right direction, but they did a poor job sizing/placing the top bumper buttons. This has been very obvious playing D3 on there, and comparing my usage of that button with how much I used it on other games on the 360, its just uncomfortable on the One, but everything else about the One troller is spot on. On the PS side of things, I REALLY don't like the new controller, I don't own a PS4 yet, but the time I've spent holding one of the new controllers, it just doesn't feel good, I'd rather have the PS3 stock controllers or something from M$.
- Unreall

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I love the feel of the Xbox One controller the most out of all of them I've used. Helps that the left and right trigger and bumper buttons have practical no resistance. @defpally. I enjoy Xbox fitness. I've never really been "in shaoe", mind you I'm not fat, but nothing to brag about either, but having that as a free program for 2014 has been really nice. I MAY get a ps4, but my next console is going to be a WII U, they are building up a number of games I want to play. But after that, who knows. I'd love to finally get to play The Last of Us.

This goes without saying, but PLEASE play The Last of Us...I hear the remaster is worth it on PS4 as well, but the PS3 version is daaaaammmnnnn pretty.

@defpally: Cool about controller hacking. I've been wanting to build my own MAME arcade box for years but don't have the expertise.

Very few controllers nail all the things right. The closest was the original SNES pad. It has to be comfortable. The tension on the buttons and sticks/pads has to be right and responsive. Gamecube had great controllers, but their shoulder buttons were terrible and the D-Pad too small. The Saturn Japanese controller was great, but the shoulder buttons were also not up to snuff. If I were to pick a simple favorite right now of the modern consoles, I'd say the WiiU Pro Controllers are the simple best. They have the good feel and size of the 360, good tension on the sticks/buttons/triggers, a really good D-pad. and to top it off a craaaazy long battery life.

I like the Playstation form factor ok, but the sticks are too loose and bottom trigger doesn't feel right. I've never been fond of their "split" D-Pad. LittleBigPlanet is floaty enough as is, the PS3 controller makes it like the whole game is based on Mario's ice levels. When it comes to multi-console games, I always go 360 these days - and the controller is the reason.

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This goes without saying, but PLEASE play The Last of Us...I hear the remaster is worth it on PS4 as well, but the PS3 version is daaaaammmnnnn pretty.

@defpally: Cool about controller hacking. I've been wanting to build my own MAME arcade box for years but don't have the expertise.

I need to swing back around to the Last of Us. Lost my save file on a PS3 that apparently isn't fond of lightning running through it. Insurance replaced it, but obviously not my save file. Dark Souls 2 is my current go to game. Such a rewarding difficulty level and that atmosphere ... many, many hours in and I still tread carefully through doorways.

I would be glad to give you some help on making a stick, but the real wealth of info is over on Shoryuken.com. We used to have a really good arcade parts supplier in Raleigh that was incredible on packing and reliability, but they went out of business and left a bunch of orders in limbo. Most of the best parts come from the Japan side of the pond these days, with the virtual death of arcades in the US the suppliers are hard to come by. You need to come over sometime and I can show you the difference.

@Unreallystic. The bumper buttons on the Xbox One are definately different, but really thw only t ruble spot is if you try to press it towards the center of the controller. I'd you just press them along any other point they work just fine. At least for me. But as its said, we all have our preferences.

@GhostRoaster. I know haha. I have wanted to play The Last of Us for so long now. And like I said, if I ever pick up a Playstation 4, which there's a very good chance of happening this console cycle, only have a 360 last time, then day one I'm buying the remastered version of The Last of Us. No doubt in my mind I would love it. Someday it'll happen. Someday.

you get the outlaw brawl and chain trap which i think is bad as he is a water villain and i think that they should have gave us another element trap with a different villain variant as you get a water trap in the starter pack but it is still cool that you get an extra trap.

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This goes without saying, but PLEASE play The Last of Us...I hear the remaster is worth it on PS4 as well, but the PS3 version is daaaaammmnnnn pretty.

@defpally: Cool about controller hacking. I've been wanting to build my own MAME arcade box for years but don't have the expertise.

I need to swing back around to the Last of Us. Lost my save file on a PS3 that apparently isn't fond of lightning running through it. Insurance replaced it, but obviously not my save file. Dark Souls 2 is my current go to game. Such a rewarding difficulty level and that atmosphere ... many, many hours in and I still tread carefully through doorways.

I would be glad to give you some help on making a stick, but the real wealth of info is over on Shoryuken.com. We used to have a really good arcade parts supplier in Raleigh that was incredible on packing and reliability, but they went out of business and left a bunch of orders in limbo. Most of the best parts come from the Japan side of the pond these days, with the virtual death of arcades in the US the suppliers are hard to come by. You need to come over sometime and I can show you the difference.

You're on SRK also? Small world.

I'm a stick builder myself, I used to get parts from LizardLick until it went under, best prices you could find. Now its FocusAttack. I do MAME projects for people too, I'm working on a MEgatouch-'esque' project for myself now.

My PC in a PS3 project for example -> http://s913.photobucket.com/us...y/AlphaMeridian
or my Suede joystick (inspired by Ghostface Killah's 'Blue & Creme' Wally concept) - http://i913.photobucket.com/al.../IMG_3050-1.jpg

Building a stick is EASY and building a MAME setup is EASY, the resources online are so plentiful. It really just comes down to $$$
- Unreall

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You're on SRK also? Small world.

I'm a stick builder myself, I used to get parts from LizardLick until it went under, best prices you could find. Now its FocusAttack. I do MAME projects for people too, I'm working on a MEgatouch-'esque' project for myself now.

My PC in a PS3 project for example -> http://s913.photobucket.com/us...y/AlphaMeridian
or my Suede joystick (inspired by Ghostface Killah's 'Blue & Creme' Wally concept) - http://i913.photobucket.com/al.../IMG_3050-1.jpg

Building a stick is EASY and building a MAME setup is EASY, the resources online are so plentiful. It really just comes down to $$$
- Unreall

Yeah, I don't mess with fighting games nearly as much as I used to back in college (Street Fighter 2 came out in the arcade my junior year, just to date myself). Modding the SE MadCatz sticks and an XBox controller to "fix" the DPad is about the extent of what I've messed with lately. I guess I'm one of the original pad hackers, I made an arcade stick (then another big double one) back right after SF2 came out for SNES (I got the Japan version that came out a few months earlier than the US one, then bought the US one as well). Back then you didn't have the Internet for researching this stuff, I had taken an Electronic circuits class my senior year in high school and learned to solder. I originally thought the circuit boards in controllers might not have enough juice running through them to work effectively with arcade grade parts, but it worked really well just sanding the surface coating down and soldering the leads. The original parts I used were from the arcade I worked in, I was friends with our repair guy and he gave me some parts he wasn't using for my first. Capcom always used the same sticks, but it was funny I found out that their regular Capcom games just used the shaft cover/extender on the bottom to make the sticks shorter. For my 2 player cabinet I got a second used stick out of a Mercs machine that was replaced, put the shaft on the other side and replaced a couple switches and it became a stock SF2 stick. We had a big box of buttons that were unused, so the owner let me have some and I picked the best and cleaned them out.

After I went to school in the Fall of '93, I showed my creation to a friend I met at an arcade that lived in my dorm at NCSU the previous year, he was a big poster on the message boards and next thing I know a bunch of guys had recreated it. He made a really nice deck for his out of a more solid material (I used particle board and shelf paper like an arcade cabinet did). I ended up selling my stick to a friend back home the next year. I won't say I invented the idea or anything so bold as that, but I definitely put the idea in quite a few heads. Me and my senior year roommate played the crap out of SNES SF2, I was a Guile man and he rocked Blanka. I originally made the stick to get better at Ryu/Ken (since a shoryuken was a pain going to the left on the pad). I was amazed the SNES version made the leap with the full (combos were unintended in SF2, if rumors are correct) combo system intact - you really needed a stick to pull off a triple (yeah triple was the extent of an uninterruptible combo back then, until championship edition introduced Ken's quad).

Tinykitty, even smaller world (working at NCSU right now - though I grew up and graduated in MD - 00')

I started building from scratch and pad-hacking - my first attempts were with a PC, a PSX and Dreamcast conrollers though...I was a pad player really until SF4 when I forced myself to stick, I used them for like MvC2, but I preferred pad - hey I've got big hands so some of the things most folks have issues with on a pad, I did no problem. I didn't do SNES, though my first hacks were for emulated SF2 (Rainbow edition MUAHAHAHA...Guile was so awesome in that, look it up if you've never played it).

It's so easy to do things today with work from the likes of toodles, I remember trying to build buffer circuits so I could do multiple systems in a single controller, but now we have 'snap-in' solutions. I'e wanted to do somehting similar with a Spyro portal, but it's just not worth the effort, plus I've split up my collections anyway.
- Unreall

Yeah, I have played Rainbow edition, the hacked board where special moves didn't have to be land locked and some other weird things. They had it in a nearby mall.

That toodles stuff is a cool natural extension of the concept, I looked at it a while back and if I were still really messing with it I'd definitely go that route. As it is, I make do with my MadCatz SE's with the swapped out parts - they work great for fighters, and for some other retro games.