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Villain Vault & Unknown Element!!!
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#1 Posted: 00:25:22 21/08/2014 | Topic Creator
First look at the villain vault!!




Also look at this

[User Posted Image]

And entering the elemental zones
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#2 Posted: 00:28:44 21/08/2014
So this basically confirms that you only need 8 traps, right?
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#3 Posted: 00:33:19 21/08/2014
Hu, when was that in the video?
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#4 Posted: 00:33:22 21/08/2014
...unknown trap master? Thats it, maybe the question marks on the poster are trap masters of unknown elements! Kind of like neutrals, perhaps? Or maybe a new element?
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#5 Posted: 00:34:56 21/08/2014
Gasp!

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#6 Posted: 00:39:16 21/08/2014
Don't forget the Blastermind artwork!

EDIT: And Brock and an unnamed villain as play modes! Villain mode confirmed probably, but what's the other one...?
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#7 Posted: 00:44:05 21/08/2014
this answers everything....
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#8 Posted: 00:44:22 21/08/2014
Quote: Bifrost
Don't forget the Blastermind artwork!

EDIT: And Brock and an unnamed villain as play modes! Villain mode confirmed probably, but what's the other one...?



Actually, that's just Kaos Mode. Brock probably represents arenas/PvP.
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#9 Posted: 00:48:38 21/08/2014
if there is a new element, does this mean the core of light is incomplete? how do they explain this!?

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#10 Posted: 00:53:54 21/08/2014
Quote: ZapNorris
if there is a new element, does this mean the core of light is incomplete? how do they explain this!?




smilie oh Zap I love that song. You do however make a good point though, how do you explain that and what is this unknown element anyways?
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#11 Posted: 00:55:00 21/08/2014
This appears to be a specific gate for a specific Trap Master. My guess is that the ? goes away when you register him in the game. Not much re playability, but I'll take what I can get.

Not bought on unknown element yet, although I think it's very probable now (whereas two weeks ago folks were making fun of the notion).
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#12 Posted: 00:55:05 21/08/2014
Quote: GhostRoaster617
Quote: ZapNorris
if there is a new element, does this mean the core of light is incomplete? how do they explain this!?




smilie oh Zap I love that song. You do however make a good point though, how do you explain that and what is this unknown element anyways?



everything i know is wrong
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#13 Posted: 00:57:28 21/08/2014
Quote: GhostRoaster
This appears to be a specific gate for a specific Trap Master. My guess is that the ? goes away when you register him in the game. Not much re playability, but I'll take what I can get.

Not bought on unknown element yet, although I think it's very probable now (whereas two weeks ago folks were making fun of the notion).



Doubt it'd be that,or Eon would stop at the first sentence. Right after he goes on to talk about the Mystery Element. Might be one that activates only with the question mark 'landers, which means that they might not even be revealed upon release...

(yup,at other gates, Eon just says one line when it's a defined element. This is intentional on Activision's part, but the question is why hide it.)
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#14 Posted: 01:06:18 21/08/2014
If they arn't revealed by then someone will hack them in and we will find out about them.
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#15 Posted: 01:17:20 21/08/2014
Quote: Bifrost
Quote: GhostRoaster
This appears to be a specific gate for a specific Trap Master. My guess is that the ? goes away when you register him in the game. Not much re playability, but I'll take what I can get.

Not bought on unknown element yet, although I think it's very probable now (whereas two weeks ago folks were making fun of the notion).



Doubt it'd be that,or Eon would stop at the first sentence. Right after he goes on to talk about the Mystery Element. Might be one that activates only with the question mark 'landers, which means that they might not even be revealed upon release...

(yup,at other gates, Eon just says one line when it's a defined element. This is intentional on Activision's part, but the question is why hide it.)


I must've missed Eon's ranting, I've become so accustomed that I ignore it.

The other idea is that they want to make sure anything in the demo games simply don't communicate ANY OF THIS, and it's only being used for marketing purposes only. The "poster" we've seen is pseudo to keep us guessing.
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#16 Posted: 01:28:33 21/08/2014
Yeah, but it's not a very good idea to have the Mystery Element on the tutorial level to begin with, unless it's meant to be the big surprise on release day. It's even listed in the results screen as a question mark.
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#17 Posted: 01:33:55 21/08/2014
I leave for a few hours...
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#18 Posted: 01:37:50 21/08/2014
Quote: Bifrost
Quote: GhostRoaster
This appears to be a specific gate for a specific Trap Master. My guess is that the ? goes away when you register him in the game. Not much re playability, but I'll take what I can get.

Not bought on unknown element yet, although I think it's very probable now (whereas two weeks ago folks were making fun of the notion).


Doubt it'd be that,or Eon would stop at the first sentence. Right after he goes on to talk about the Mystery Element. Might be one that activates only with the question mark 'landers, which means that they might not even be revealed upon release...

(yup,at other gates, Eon just says one line when it's a defined element. This is intentional on Activision's part, but the question is why hide it.)


They'll have to announce it before the release, the poster has these unknown element characters listed. Unless the game comes with an incomplete poster, which would be disappointing.
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#19 Posted: 02:10:54 21/08/2014
Maybe they're keeping a tight lid on purpose...if it serves a bigger purpose other than another random character announcement I'm all for the changeup.
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#20 Posted: 02:25:31 21/08/2014
Quote: GhostRoaster
Maybe they're keeping a tight lid on purpose...if it serves a bigger purpose other than another random character announcement I'm all for the changeup.



Perhaps a hint for sequel game? I've always wanted a Skylanders game about new Elements.
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#21 Posted: 03:20:40 21/08/2014
Extra trap masters to buy?

Challenge accepted.
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#22 Posted: 03:32:45 21/08/2014
I look forward to knowing more about this new element. Best of all, it's gonna be an exciting surprise since we have no idea what direction they are gonna go with this element.
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#23 Posted: 05:34:30 21/08/2014
Quote: ninja9351
Hu, when was that in the video?



It's at around 11:50
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#24 Posted: 06:10:31 21/08/2014
Quote: GhostRoaster617
I look forward to knowing more about this new element. Best of all, it's gonna be an exciting surprise since we have no idea what direction they are gonna go with this element.


Or mybe there just unknown trap masters of the unknown element
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#25 Posted: 08:15:41 21/08/2014
That was... Unexpected...

Didn't the count in the officially web site said 16 Trap Masters and 18 Cores...?
Are there 2 more characters to buy, that would completely ruin the balanced of the Elements and, possibly, a big part of the game "lore", or did they just changed their minds...?

I don't want to know the new Element, if there is one, nor the characters, but I DO want to know if I'll have to buy at least another Skylander to complete the game.
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#26 Posted: 09:03:12 21/08/2014
But we already have 16 confirmed Trap Masters and we know them all. Curious.
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#27 Posted: 10:34:19 21/08/2014
Quote: myskylanders
But we already have 16 confirmed Trap Masters and we know them all. Curious.



The even more curious thing is that the website said we would have over 60 new figures, but there's only 57 on the poster.
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#28 Posted: 11:55:44 21/08/2014 | Topic Creator
I know this isnt big news but i thought ill post it. Trigger Happy

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#29 Posted: 11:57:58 21/08/2014
Think the unknown Trap Masters are the 4 question marks on the poster
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#30 Posted: 12:08:22 21/08/2014 | Topic Creator
Also if their are 3 more reposes:

Tech- Boomer!?

Earth- Dino Rang Maybe?

Undead- Ghost roaster

well its got to be something they did not want people to see
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#31 Posted: 12:17:59 21/08/2014
Can somebody post where they found blasterminds art?
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#32 Posted: 12:19:56 21/08/2014
Quote: GIANTSRULE
I know this isnt big news but i thought ill post it. Trigger Happy

[User Posted Image]


It is a footage from SWAP Force.
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#33 Posted: 12:50:43 21/08/2014
Oh wow. That is a part of Swap Force. Why are they showing gameplay of Swap Force on Trap Team, lol?
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#34 Posted: 12:55:33 21/08/2014
Quote: GameMaster78
Oh wow. That is a part of Swap Force. Why are they showing gameplay of Swap Force on Trap Team, lol?



Don't know, probably an editing mistake. smilie
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#35 Posted: 13:11:09 21/08/2014
If there is going to be a new element added, then based on what we've seen from the gameplay, I'd guess it's actually just called the "unknown" element. Since there are two boxes with two question marks each on the poster, I'm guessing we're getting two "unknown" Trap Masters and two new "unknown" element core figures.
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#36 Posted: 13:22:55 21/08/2014
the artwork is at the very beginning when the game is loading
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#37 Posted: 13:27:33 21/08/2014
Quote: ZapNorris
if there is a new element, does this mean the core of light is incomplete? how do they explain this!?

This is exactly why I don't want a new Element. I can't see it adding anything we couldn't fit into old elements since Space/Time/Psychic/Whatever already fit into Magic and Electricity/Ice are already used in other Elements and it just wouldn't be interesting. Besides, seeing them stretch the old Elements to include other stuff is much more fun, imo. All it'd do is force them to add more Skylanders in each game, and it's not like they can't choose to make an extra Skylander for each Element if they wanna fit in more. If these are Skylanders of no Element, though, I could accept that more easily (I always assumed every single creature had an Elemental alignment, but the idea of an Element-less character isn't farfetched). It still wouldn't be exciting to me. IDK about a new Element getting recently created.
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#38 Posted: 13:56:17 21/08/2014
Quote: GIANTSRULE
I know this isnt big news but i thought ill post it. Trigger Happy

[User Posted Image]



That's not series 4 Trigger Happy, but a previous version. In that video, they did show some characters from previous games.
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#39 Posted: 14:54:09 21/08/2014
Quote: Arc of Archives
Quote: ZapNorris
if there is a new element, does this mean the core of light is incomplete? how do they explain this!?

This is exactly why I don't want a new Element. I can't see it adding anything we couldn't fit into old elements since Space/Time/Psychic/Whatever already fit into Magic and Electricity/Ice are already used in other Elements and it just wouldn't be interesting. Besides, seeing them stretch the old Elements to include other stuff is much more fun, imo. All it'd do is force them to add more Skylanders in each game, and it's not like they can't choose to make an extra Skylander for each Element if they wanna fit in more. If these are Skylanders of no Element, though, I could accept that more easily (I always assumed every single creature had an Elemental alignment, but the idea of an Element-less character isn't farfetched). It still wouldn't be exciting to me. IDK about a new Element getting recently created.


Kaos could have created some new Skylabders to help the already existing ones.
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#40 Posted: 16:20:52 21/08/2014
Quote: skylandsfan
Can somebody post where they found blasterminds art?


[User Posted Image]
There you go, skylandsfan. Though someone would beat me to it but I guess not.


On topic of the new possible element, there's always the possibility that it's not an Element that actually affects the Core of Light, or is a true neutral magic that can't help Light or Darkness in any way. For all we know, Eon could be literal when he calls it the Mystery Element.
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#41 Posted: 17:29:02 21/08/2014
I have to say this has piqued my interest, it at least indicates they might be changing things up a bit. This is the only thing I've seen out of Trap Team that might be considered a "game changer".
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#42 Posted: 18:18:10 21/08/2014
They could easily add a "Light" element (for Eon) and "Dark" element (for Kaos)
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#43 Posted: 19:46:44 21/08/2014
Quote: Bifrost
On topic of the new possible element, there's always the possibility that it's not an Element that actually affects the Core of Light, or is a true neutral magic that can't help Light or Darkness in any way. For all we know, Eon could be literal when he calls it the Mystery Element.



He calls it a Mystery Gate, which requires an unknown Element. Unknown isn't even used as a proper noun. So, maybe it is called that if there is a new Element.

But, in my opinion, the gate probably is used for Kaos-and if there are other villains like him-since it wouldn't make sense to have one gate that doesn't open with a Trap Master but with a new core instead. They said we're only getting 16 Trap Masters, so I don't know why everyone is getting excited when they had four hidden characters in the poster. The extra two are probably Mini's, since those weren't revealed with a set number of 16(as far as I know).

Anyway, taking out the fact that it's a demo, it would make more sense to be a villain based gate for Kaos, as his "element", which probably isn't accessible until later in the story, and that is why it is unknown. Again, it's only a demo, so I might be wrong about the whole thing.
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#44 Posted: 19:51:25 21/08/2014
Quote: ToySoldierMafia
Quote: Bifrost
On topic of the new possible element, there's always the possibility that it's not an Element that actually affects the Core of Light, or is a true neutral magic that can't help Light or Darkness in any way. For all we know, Eon could be literal when he calls it the Mystery Element.



He calls it a Mystery Gate, which requires an unknown Element. Unknown isn't even used as a proper noun. So, maybe it is called that if there is a new Element.

But, in my opinion, the gate probably is used for Kaos-and if there are other villains like him-since it wouldn't make sense to have one gate that doesn't open with a Trap Master but with a new core instead. They said we're only getting 16 Trap Masters, so I don't know why everyone is getting excited when they had four hidden characters in the poster. The extra two are probably Mini's, since those weren't revealed with a set number of 16(as far as I know).

Anyway, taking out the fact that it's a demo, it would make more sense to be a villain based gate for Kaos, as his "element", which probably isn't accessible until later in the story, and that is why it is unknown. Again, it's only a demo, so I might be wrong about the whole thing.



It specifically says a Trap Master, so it's not a villain gate.
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#45 Posted: 20:19:32 21/08/2014
Who knows, maybe they're Trap Masters that carry traps as weapons? Some of them definately could be used to knock an enemy silly.
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#46 Posted: 20:37:26 21/08/2014
They'll most likely have crystal clear weapons.

As for the traps? Maybe they'll just have crystal clear versions of unique traps?

...Maybe Glumshanks will be trappable?
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#47 Posted: 20:38:47 21/08/2014
[quote=Matteomax...Maybe Glumshanks will be trappable?[/quote]


Well, we do have one of those big squares that doesn't correspond to any of the villains, so yeah, he could be trappable.
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#48 Posted: 20:48:01 21/08/2014
Quote: Bionichute
[quote=Matteomax...Maybe Glumshanks will be trappable?



Well, we do have one of those big squares that doesn't correspond to any of the villains, so yeah, he could be trappable.[/quote]


Ehh, I wouldn't be so sure on him being in one of the larger super villain squares, as we still have no clue on the villains that can be captured in the Adventure Packs.
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#49 Posted: 20:55:13 21/08/2014
I like your idea Bifrost. Actually, if it were a Darkness Element it probably couldn't help the Core of Light anyway, so if this is a Kaos Element and they explain that it would just be detrimental to the Core I guess it wouldn't be that bad.
Quote: Drek95
Kaos could have created some new Skylabders to help the already existing ones.

How would they make it to Earth? He just send them there? If so, how? And let's assume Kaos is still evil until you trap him (that's how it seems to go with villains)- why would he make Skylanders to help the Skylanders while he was evil? And if he decides to get them to help after he turns good, how would they make it to Earth?* If he decided to make Skylanders to help the Skylanders to stop other villains, why would he do that over using his own existing weapons of military?

Actually, this talk about Kaos making Skylanders makes me hope he has the Evil Minion Skylanders as part of his moveset.

I'm just afraid a new Element would go unexplained and be tossed in. TFB are better at explaining lore, but considering the villain timer is left unexplained ("they get tired" seems like a cruddy explanation to me, because Skylanders can fight much longer and it looks like you can send villains back in after their timer recharges for just a little), and I still haven't seen mentioning of Portal Masters, I just feel cynical about it. It's just a game, I should really just relax. Sigh. Hope the lore isn't as meh as I expect.

* Note: it'd still make sense for them to be played in older chapters because, according to the Skylanders Quiz Quest and a Story Scroll in SA, Portals can travel in time (so when you replay a chapter, you're probably travelling time**).

** I just thought about it and man, it'd be awesome if they made multiple game paths with completely different levels using that lore. It wouldn't have to be too many paths, even just one level in the middle of the game deciding one of two or three endings. You could travel back to that chapter and then depending which way you go get a good, bad or neutral future which each have several of their own chapters before the last, for instance (with good future as canon for the sake of it smilie). Nothing more than speculation unrelated to Elements, though.
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#50 Posted: 20:58:45 21/08/2014
They really explained the villain timer like that? Considering 'a wizard/stray magic/enchanted artifact did' it is a valid explanation in Skylanders, they could say the Traptanium can't keep them brainwashed for too long outside the crystal and get away with it.
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