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Kaos & Eon Elements
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#1 Posted: 10:32:49 24/04/2014 | Topic Creator
Smart or stupid move?
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#2 Posted: 11:33:00 24/04/2014
Horribly stupid move. Why throw off the balance we've had up till this point. No new elements, please.
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#3 Posted: 11:38:34 24/04/2014
Wait what?
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#4 Posted: 11:39:10 24/04/2014
I would have preferred just the traditional 'Light and Dark' for the names, honestly.
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#5 Posted: 11:40:38 24/04/2014
Wait!? New Elements!?
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#6 Posted: 11:45:18 24/04/2014
Family Gamer is spitballing random ideas. Nothing has been confirmed or even hinted at in terms of new element types. 1) lets not jump the gun on anything. 2) the name ideas are horrible.
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#7 Posted: 11:50:59 24/04/2014
My god... I got scared.
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#8 Posted: 11:58:16 24/04/2014
Quote: RadSpyro
I would have preferred just the traditional 'Light and Dark' for the names, honestly.



Agree -- IF (and that's a big if) there are two new elements and Kaos is related to this, then I think we would see Light and Dark. I think FGTV's mention of Kaos and Eon was just to explain the basis for new elements, not to actually name the elements.


Personally, I want Space and Time elements.
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#9 Posted: 11:59:32 24/04/2014
I have no reason to not see Kaos as a Magic based villain.

8(elements) x 5 villains of each type. = Announced 40 trappable baddies

4 villains per trap. Pretty much a money move by Activision to encourage people to break down and buy another trap of each element type. If you want EVERY baddie, thats another (lets say $5 for a trap @ 8 Elements) another $40 bucks they can milk from people.
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#10 Posted: 12:10:21 24/04/2014
Is this official?
If it isn't, then... No.

First of all, it would compleately ruin the Core of Light concept.
Then these two elements characters would be outnumbered by the others.
How can Kaos and Eon be elements, really?
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#11 Posted: 12:17:00 24/04/2014
Quote: GothamLord
Family Gamer is spitballing random ideas. Nothing has been confirmed or even hinted at in terms of new element types. 1) lets not jump the gun on anything. 2) the name ideas are horrible.



He is wrong. When has he ever been right in his speculation. For all things good and holy he called Snap Shot a dragon when he is clearly a crocodile.
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#12 Posted: 12:21:19 24/04/2014
Quote: ninja9351
Quote: GothamLord
Family Gamer is spitballing random ideas. Nothing has been confirmed or even hinted at in terms of new element types. 1) lets not jump the gun on anything. 2) the name ideas are horrible.



He is wrong. When has he ever been right in his speculation. For all things good and holy he called Snap Shot a dragon when he is clearly a crocodile.



The man clearly has more access to the games and talking with the developers than I do. With that, I'm not going to bash his ideas. Though I will admit that I generally feel the exact opposite about most of his suggestions. I hate the idea of cart racing being added in that he suggested at one point, and I hate the idea of new elements.
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#13 Posted: 12:21:47 24/04/2014
Quote: GothamLord
I have no reason to not see Kaos as a Magic based villain.

8(elements) x 5 villains of each type. = Announced 40 trappable baddies

4 villains per trap. Pretty much a money move by Activision to encourage people to break down and buy another trap of each element type. If you want EVERY baddie, thats another (lets say $5 for a trap @ 8 Elements) another $40 bucks they can milk from people.



You may be on to something.

With 8 traps, you could get 32 villains -- then maybe we 8 enemy-specific traps?? to round out the 40 baddies?
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#14 Posted: 12:29:42 24/04/2014
Quote: crocko33
Quote: GothamLord
I have no reason to not see Kaos as a Magic based villain.

8(elements) x 5 villains of each type. = Announced 40 trappable baddies

4 villains per trap. Pretty much a money move by Activision to encourage people to break down and buy another trap of each element type. If you want EVERY baddie, thats another (lets say $5 for a trap @ 8 Elements) another $40 bucks they can milk from people.



You may be on to something.

With 8 traps, you could get 32 villains -- then maybe we 8 enemy-specific traps?? to round out the 40 baddies?


I dont know about enemy specific but I guess anything is possible. Another thought I had was there are 4 slots for characters, but larger/more powerful ones could take up more than one slot. Hence forcing you to have a secondary key of each element because you cant fit all of them into it.
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#15 Posted: 12:48:18 24/04/2014
As others have said, the elements haven't been confirmed and it wouldn't make sense to add them in without mentioning them at their announcement party. (Would also prefer Space and Time too, or if they have to do Light and Dark to call them that).

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Going by this there seems to be 15, it's be strange to not show more.
10 traps will hold 40, there is a specific trap of Kaos as shown (this is most likely why when most of the team are in reviews they are saying you "Can" play as Chaos rather than WILL.

Apparently theres a rumour they're in blind bags, which I really hope they're not. We'll have to wait and see.
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#16 Posted: 12:57:41 24/04/2014
HA! I was actually just taking pictures from the trailer to post this exact image for discussion.

If there are at least 2 traps of each element we are looking at 16 traps minimum. The Kaos one throws me for a loop slightly but I'm still not convinced he isnt going to be a Magic type. I really hope they arent blind bagged, however if they are I think the forums should set up some sort of trading group to help each other out, rather than get suckered into dropping a ton down on finding specific traps.
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#17 Posted: 13:04:08 24/04/2014
Thinking about it, if they do go down the blind bag route, I get the feeling they'll be more like blind boxes, since putting them in bags can lead to people just 'feeling' for the key they want (which some people did with Disney Infinity for certain discs, I believe). And if Kaos does wind up being the rare one, let's face it - Scalpers will pick the bags clean. You'll need to open a new box just to have a chance at the rarer keys.
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#18 Posted: 13:10:21 24/04/2014
I think the Kaos trap is a really great idea.
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#19 Posted: 13:10:46 24/04/2014
"Blind bags" are more a general term for the random blind purchase process than being specially in bags. Disney has their Vinylmation toys in a bag, thats then inside a box to avoid the whole feeling around for any special shapes or patterns on certain figures.

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I could see them being packaged similar to those. If they go that route.
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#20 Posted: 13:13:02 24/04/2014
Oh, I knew that much at least. I was just saying it as a general kinda statement smilie
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#21 Posted: 13:15:35 24/04/2014
Either way, hopefully the blind bags dont actually happen. If they do again, I'll be the first to jump into a trading group with people here on the forums. I've had people help me get things like the Quickdraw Rattle Shake, so its only far to return the favor.
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#22 Posted: 13:59:54 24/04/2014
Something is up and I think the different elements was initially a dumb idea (still think it is) but the fact that they mentioned a number of new figures that ISNT A MULTIPLE OF 8 is a red flag. 18 new figures? Not 8. Not 16. 18?

Expect this to be the NEXT big announcement. They are ramping up a new element for a good versus evil sequel. It's all coming to pass.
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#23 Posted: 15:55:54 24/04/2014
I think FGTV might be on to something with the new elemet type. Ghost Roaster mentioned. But I think the big question is, why 50 new skylanders? Also not divisible by 8. 5 figs per element, including a light and dark element seems to make sense... I hope not though.
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#24 Posted: 18:20:56 24/04/2014
whos gonna collect them all or just 1 per element and how can there be variant crystals when there are no more enemies to collect after story
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#25 Posted: 18:33:54 24/04/2014
From GameInformer:
Crystals
If you want to play as all of the villains in the game, you'll need to insert the crystal that represents the villain's elemental type. Yes, this means you'll need to have at least eight crystals – two of which come packaged with the game. Activision has no plans to sell the other crystals in blind packs. The crystals will be sold separately, and Activision is also looking into other ways to get them into players' hands.
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#26 Posted: 18:41:46 24/04/2014
Good/evil - love/hate - hair/bald - old/young - halos/horns - heros/villains. Doesn't matter to me. I'm fine with additional elements.
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#27 Posted: 18:48:56 24/04/2014
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/...-trap-team.aspx
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#28 Posted: 19:21:48 24/04/2014
"Kaos" and "Eon" would just mess things up. I'd much rather "Kaos' like variants of the existing elements like "Poison" for life. But I really want any new elements at all to be honest!
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#29 Posted: 20:04:41 24/04/2014
Quote: oufanindallas
From GameInformer:
Crystals
If you want to play as all of the villains in the game, you'll need to insert the crystal that represents the villain's elemental type. Yes, this means you'll need to have at least eight crystals – two of which come packaged with the game. Activision has no plans to sell the other crystals in blind packs. The crystals will be sold separately, and Activision is also looking into other ways to get them into players' hands.



I agree that they probably wont be blind packs. I think it was even stated in one of the interviews that they made different ones so people could choose which one they liked. So it made it more personal for them to have a certain one for their element. Also the fact that they have so many different colors in the trailer video leads me to thinking its giving options of what you want, instead of just having say two types per element. Of course the special Chaos one is probably only for him. I guess that was there way of making it more of a physical toy that is known to be chaos.
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#30 Posted: 20:15:22 24/04/2014
My theory is that the new elements will be dark and light dark for kaos and light for eon also you dont need all the extra crystals
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#31 Posted: 20:20:36 24/04/2014 | Topic Creator
If there will really be new elements, I'm thinking Light/Dark instead of Eon/Kaos.
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#32 Posted: 21:07:20 24/04/2014
I want to know what that acorn thing was in the reveal. Was that some form of new element?? I think the Kaos is just a separate one just for him and not any kind of indicator of a new element. I do like the time/space element idea that was revealed previously but since it all takes place in Skylands it doesn't make any sense.
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#33 Posted: 21:08:41 24/04/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: jbmindtrick
I want to know what that acorn thing was in the reveal. Was that some form of new element?? I think the Kaos is just a separate one just for him and not any kind of indicator of a new element. I do like the time/space element idea that was revealed previously but since it all takes place in Skylands it doesn't make any sense.



Looks like maybe the Trap Master's symbol, or a "villain" only symbol.
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#34 Posted: 21:17:12 24/04/2014
It's just something for that level. You can see it in the Skylanders: Trap Team reveal.
It tell you at 18:48.
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#35 Posted: 21:17:19 24/04/2014
Quote: jbmindtrick
I want to know what that acorn thing was in the reveal. Was that some form of new element?? I think the Kaos is just a separate one just for him and not any kind of indicator of a new element. I do like the time/space element idea that was revealed previously but since it all takes place in Skylands it doesn't make any sense.



The acorn symbol was an indicator to bring a magic boingo (?) acorn to it to make a bridge.
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#36 Posted: 21:34:07 24/04/2014
I think Kaos would fit at the magic element...
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#37 Posted: 23:48:22 24/04/2014
Quote: DaMadNes
I think FGTV might be on to something with the new elemet type. Ghost Roaster mentioned. But I think the big question is, why 50 new skylanders? Also not divisible by 8. 5 figs per element, including a light and dark element seems to make sense... I hope not though.


They never said "50". I thought they said "Over 60" (although I suppose I might be misremembering it and it was "Over 50" - but the word "Over" was in there). "Over" could be 1,000. smilie

Quote: GhostRoaster
Something is up and I think the different elements was initially a dumb idea (still think it is) but the fact that they mentioned a number of new figures that ISNT A MULTIPLE OF 8 is a red flag. 18 new figures? Not 8. Not 16. 18?


I'm inclined to think it's not a new element - if that was the case, wouldn't you think there'd be 2-4 more Trap Masters to account for the new element?

I'm wondering if they're going to do an uneven number of new/reposes among the elements or... maybe... actual Kaos/Eon figures?
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#38 Posted: 00:01:05 25/04/2014
Quote: NINJAsk11
My god... I got scared.


I wouldn't be. The logo shows the eight element logos. If there were new elements they would have at least suggested them or put them on the logo. I wouldn't want new elements either. The Kaos and Eon traps will possibly be Toys R Us exclusives. That's more likely in my eyes.
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#39 Posted: 00:17:52 25/04/2014
You guys keep saying that there will only be 50 characters. The anouncement said over 50. Probably 56, due that 56/8=7. That could mean two Trap Masters and two or three Core, plus two or three S2/S3/S4.

Also, I bet some of the new characters are some of I-Wei Huang's leftovers who have been glamorized.
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#40 Posted: 06:06:14 25/04/2014
so would sheep mage make it to this game aswell?
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#41 Posted: 13:56:41 26/04/2014
What if the two other characters are just two new sidekicks (one of them could be that weird Spyro thingy in the "Discover" trailer?
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