darkSpyro

Get out. Just get out.

That is very stereotypical of you to think that.

What the hell...?


Since when did Obama ever accuse ANYONE of being racist for simply opposing him? Yes, many Obama supporters do, but the President himself has never done it.

Aren't you being racist in itself saying that?

Obama is a great president, he just has too diverse an audience to please.

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Obama is a great president, he just has too diverse an audience to please.

Actually, I'd say that he has, unfortunately, done a great job pleasing his diverse crowd. Illegal immigrants under his immigration policies might as well be called "undocumented democrats", he turned gays into guaranteed pawns for votes for him, as he also did with women as he did with practically all of the minorities in America, because that's what he's all about, dividing the minorities from the majorities. The majorities in his case, being white straight men.

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Quote: Samius

Obama is a great president, he just has too diverse an audience to please.

Actually, I'd say that he has, unfortunately, done a great job pleasing his diverse crowd. Illegal immigrants under his immigration policies might as well be called "undocumented democrats", he turned gays into guaranteed pawns for votes for him, as he also did with women as he did with practically all of the minorities in America, because that's what he's all about, dividing the minorities from the majorities. The majorities in his case, being white straight men.

But isn't politics about doing whatever you can to come out on top?

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Actually, I'd say that he has, unfortunately, done a great job pleasing his diverse crowd. Illegal immigrants under his immigration policies might as well be called "undocumented democrats", he turned gays into guaranteed pawns for votes for him, as he also did with women as he did with practically all of the minorities in America, because that's what he's all about, dividing the minorities from the majorities. The majorities in his case, being white straight men.

I meant "politically diverse", but I guess that's one way to look at it so let's toss "biographically diverse" in too (if that's the right word).

Now, that's exactly what I meant. The majority (straight white men, as you put it) mostly dislike him because they mostly disagree with his actions. He can't possibly please everyone with a single course of action so I think he gets a lot of unwarranted hate.

And about his actions.. What's so negative about all that he has done then? From an objective point of view, of course.

Overall, just an incredibly anti-American president making an attempt to bring the government's power beyond the constitution.

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Overall, just an incredibly anti-American president making an attempt to bring the government's power beyond the constitution.

And you seriously think he's the only President who ever did this?

Do you know which President used more executive, non-Constitutional power than any other in history?

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Abraham Lincoln. The founder of your "Grand Ole Party."

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Overall, just an incredibly anti-American president making an attempt to bring the government's power beyond the constitution.

And you seriously think he's the only President who ever did this?

Do you know which President used more executive, non-Constitutional power than any other in history?

Reveal Spoiler

Abraham Lincoln. The founder of your "Grand Ole Party."

Well, we're looking at greatly different time periods here, but Abraham Lincoln's suspension of the habeus corpus, although stepping out of the constitution was done during a time of war. Civil War. Woodrow Wilson, a president belonging to your "Grand Ole Party" had thousands of people sent to jail for being political opponents of his during World War 1. I excuse both Wilson and Lincoln for these dictator-like tactics because this was a time of major war. Now there's no massive World war or Civil war erupting, and Obama is slowly but surely breaking out of the constitution.

See, I'm not an american as you might already know. I'm from Finland, and it's really hard for me to understand this.. "aversion" most americans have towards socialism. I can get why communism isn't good but that's not the same.

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And you seriously think he's the only President who ever did this?

Do you know which President used more executive, non-Constitutional power than any other in history?

Reveal Spoiler

Abraham Lincoln. The founder of your "Grand Ole Party."

Well, we're looking at greatly different time periods here, but Abraham Lincoln's suspension of the habeus corpus, although stepping out of the constitution was done during a time of war. Civil War. Woodrow Wilson, a president belonging to your "Grand Ole Party" had thousands of people sent to jail for being political opponents of his during World War 1. I excuse both Wilson and Lincoln for these dictator-like tactics because this was a time of major war. Now there's no massive World war or Civil war erupting, and Obama is slowly but surely breaking out of the constitution.

Who says war is the only stressful time a country faces? When we're facing the worst economic trouble we've had in decades, the most atrocious health issues the country has EVER experienced, and the increasing difficulty of friendly foreign relations, none of which the Constitution can give adequate advice for, why is it wrong for the President to expand his power a bit, just as the countless others did before him?

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Quote: Metallo

And you seriously think he's the only President who ever did this?

Do you know which President used more executive, non-Constitutional power than any other in history?

Reveal Spoiler

Abraham Lincoln. The founder of your "Grand Ole Party."

Well, we're looking at greatly different time periods here, but Abraham Lincoln's suspension of the habeus corpus, although stepping out of the constitution was done during a time of war. Civil War. Woodrow Wilson, a president belonging to your "Grand Ole Party" had thousands of people sent to jail for being political opponents of his during World War 1. I excuse both Wilson and Lincoln for these dictator-like tactics because this was a time of major war. Now there's no massive World war or Civil war erupting, and Obama is slowly but surely breaking out of the constitution.

Who says war is the only stressful time a country faces? When we're facing the worst economic trouble we've had in decades, the most atrocious health issues the country has EVER experienced, and the increasing difficulty of friendly foreign relations, none of which the Constitution can give adequate advice for, why is it wrong for the President to expand his power a bit, just as the countless others did before him?

Also, you may not have noticed, but we are INVOLVED in a major war right now that also involves almost every significant First World country on the planet - a war that you Republicans have motivated out of greed.

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See, I'm not an american as you might already know. I'm from Finland, and it's really hard for me to understand this.. "aversion" most americans have towards socialism. I can get why communism isn't good but that's not the same.

Simple. It's our backwards, absurdly right-wing culture that teaches us to never trust any sort of authority and that the government is ALWAYS trying to screw us.

Also, the ones like Mrmorrises who glorify said backwards culture.

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And you seriously think he's the only President who ever did this?

Do you know which President used more executive, non-Constitutional power than any other in history?

Reveal Spoiler

Abraham Lincoln. The founder of your "Grand Ole Party."

Well, we're looking at greatly different time periods here, but Abraham Lincoln's suspension of the habeus corpus, although stepping out of the constitution was done during a time of war. Civil War. Woodrow Wilson, a president belonging to your "Grand Ole Party" had thousands of people sent to jail for being political opponents of his during World War 1. I excuse both Wilson and Lincoln for these dictator-like tactics because this was a time of major war. Now there's no massive World war or Civil war erupting, and Obama is slowly but surely breaking out of the constitution.

Who says war is the only stressful time a country faces? When we're facing the worst economic trouble we've had in decades, the most atrocious health issues the country has EVER experienced, and the increasing difficulty of friendly foreign relations, none of which the Constitution can give adequate advice for, why is it wrong for the President to expand his power a bit, just as the countless others did before him?

Also, you may not have noticed, but we are INVOLVED in a major war right now that also involves almost every significant First World country on the planet - a war that you Republicans have motivated out of greed.

Quote: Metallo

Quote: Mrmorrises

Well, we're looking at greatly different time periods here, but Abraham Lincoln's suspension of the habeus corpus, although stepping out of the constitution was done during a time of war. Civil War. Woodrow Wilson, a president belonging to your "Grand Ole Party" had thousands of people sent to jail for being political opponents of his during World War 1. I excuse both Wilson and Lincoln for these dictator-like tactics because this was a time of major war. Now there's no massive World war or Civil war erupting, and Obama is slowly but surely breaking out of the constitution.

Who says war is the only stressful time a country faces? When we're facing the worst economic trouble we've had in decades, the most atrocious health issues the country has EVER experienced, and the increasing difficulty of friendly foreign relations, none of which the Constitution can give adequate advice for, why is it wrong for the President to expand his power a bit, just as the countless others did before him?

Also, you may not have noticed, but we are INVOLVED in a major war right now that also involves almost every significant First World country on the planet - a war that you Republicans have motivated out of greed.

Really now? Did you ever think that if the DEMOCRATS let us drill for oil in Alaska, rather than going for foreign oil, the war would be less motivated?

mrmorrises youre like 9 years old U DONT KNOW ANYTHING

it's funny how everyone forgets what gorge bush put us in trillions of dollars in debt. started a war with a country that did nothing to us. pretend hucrain katrina was not happening. and many more :/