darkSpyro

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I hate this website and am surprised it still exists. I want to see the site burn. The amount of kids here that were groomed, the amount of ****ty and toxic opinions forced apon growing teens is nausiating. The amount of adults here that were complicit in my grooming, watching a literal child date an adult here is sickening. It’s been 4 years but it feels like yesterday. I’m bitter, angry, sad, and mourn the kid I was before I came onto this hellhole. I have nothing but apathy and anger for this site and what it put me through, the way it effects me to this day, the way that I wasn’t even able to come to this site as a guest without my chest feeling tight and wanting to cry. The disgusting amount of cyberbullying that happened here to underage users, the fact that underage users were even allowed here is insane. I can’t believe the bullying I both endured and caused, it makes me sick. The kids that come here thinking its a fun site about skylanders only to come here and get told to kys or made fun of for the smallest of reasons. The fact that it seems this as STILL NOT BEEN FIXED. I’m just a stronger person now, i’ve grown and learned and countless years of therapy have made me a new person, someone who can move on and not look back.
-Ciao and hopefully i’ll never load up this terrible website ever again

I'm so sorry, DC. I was so young and didn't put two and two together to realize what happened to you until only recently. I feel the utmost guilt about it now. I hope you've found peace in your life outside of here.

yeah i was bullied ruthlessly on this site as a 9-12 yr old - it was honestly kind've insane. then i joined in on some bullying at the same time hoping that would make me cool or detract the attention away from me. horribly nasty time, got stalked to other parts of the internet and bullied on those accounts, too. it was so awful.
thankfully i didn't let it jade me, i think? i mean, my trust is shot af but ykno. the site's pretty dead, now, so ig there's the bright side.

i'm sorry to everyone who had an awful time here. none of you deserved that.

i send apologies to you as well DC i was not really around i think when you were really active but im sorry you went through what you did.

a lot of people unfortunately were very poorly treated used or abused by people on this site. it has been fun but a lot of trauma came from this site for people too. i lasted like 14 years with no real bad experiences here.

i literally became involved with one of the worst influences of my life on this forum. none of the abuse i went through really happened on the forum but if not for this forum i would not have met them. a few years back i went through some serious trauma that only led to the development of even more trauma that creeped up in on me because of that. one of the worst experiences i have ever went through because of that person.

not a PT just a reply to DC.

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With every passing day, I lose more and more faith in humanity, and I just ****ing abhor humans and the fact that I have to live on the same planet and breathe the same oxygen as some people. (NOT ABOUT ANYONE HERE)

Its nice to pop into this old site every now and then just to find not much has changed

the divine creator has punished me

it's real sad to see this place rotting and people trying to keep it alive, it's like a zombie right now. not sure what can help this forum, if anything. hasn't felt like a community in years, just the same couple of people posting and occasionally people returning to post about what an awful time they had here.

cool if this site lead you to meeting long time friends, cool if this site helped you figure out anything about yourselves. sad to see it in this state, but i dunno what could possibly help.

I really cannot stand video game elitism.

i think having to pay to take higher education is absolutely damn ridiculous. like wydm if i want a chance at getting a job i need a higher education that must also be paid for with money that i dont have that i already need to survive. what the Hell do you Mean.

^ I agree!

uugghh this semester's load is going to be SO heavy '_` im already stressed enough as is, dont do this to me...

I'm having one of my bipolar depressive episodes right now, and I can't help but think of how different things could have been for me in the past had I more courage, resilience, and confidence... I could have been able to go to prom and walk for graduation, I could have still had my previous jobs, and I could have possibly had a relationship with Jordan or Alex.

i think my body hates me lol

has ur professor for ur history of african american art class (who is white btw.) ever asked u to write a short fiction story from the perspective of an enslaved black person from a real life photo, but you are white too and this entire thing just seems.... <:/

i swear my life is a damn dramatic comedy. **** just keeps happening 2 me, man.

IDK what I will do without my dog Jagger. I love him so much. <3

I miss having time for flight rising. Maybe someday: , ) it was fun when I had time

Why is it cheaper to buy a tab s6 lite new than used maybe I should be American.

completely forgot that mini pc's exist. theyre so much cheaper and take up less space and that's what i need rn - def getting one this december. ugh.

Hoping my penchant for lighthearted snark didn’t just get me into a pile of **** (irl)

this one class i have currently is such a damn joke. i was hoping for it to be interesting and actually engaging, but it's just... secondhand embarrassment at this point. hoping i can pass it and leave it behind me asap lmao

sometimes this place still pops up in my dreams and it’s usually posting amicably and way more sanely. it’s not nice because i feel the loss when i wake up. doubt anyone recognises this account but yikes. the adults here definitely knew that bullying was happening as it happened and the site should have been gone years ago. there was a whole group protecting the people involved as they did more general bullying. i don’t know how i was never groomed (i even remember talking to levi), but the bullying was bad.

what i can consistently do for myself is not guilt myself for how ****ty some other people are or when i broke down or did really embarrassing things from trauma. after all this time i look back and yeah young me at least realised the truth was that’s really what it was here. people saw me getting worse and laughed and certainly at many points actively tried to egg me and others on. this happened for years on end. legitimately you were losers and anyone still doing that or who thinks it’s fine or funny or enables others doing it is a loser and you should be called out.

i remember one user telling me they looked at (nonspecific) porn with sess but regardless of the content, it just shows how far these friendships went when some of these people were so obviously awful. this site was so weirdly openly sexual sometimes and don’t forget we had a couple of actual children as mods, on this of all sites. of all the childhood sites to have been lost to time or closed or not archived… it should have been this one, even the admin did nothing about certain things, this place was so awful and harmful to a bunch of people and it sucks this was where i tried getting away from real life.

i think it’s ridiculous that anyone is still here consistently. it’s not nice to be knowledgeable on this, to have seen so much of this and it’s not nice this site was such a huge part of my life. i wish solving my problems were as simple as being in therapy and taking my medicine, but i will say since i stopped obsessing over any communities etc in general and wasting my effort with known assholes, my life has gotten better. sucks i had to learn it this way, i used to enjoy talking with new people a lot.

i’m still lonely because of how this site negatively shaped my ability to form friendships followed by multiple manipulators afterwards.

i think people mainly still use this site out of nostalgia. that's the only reason i do. that, and all the nasty people seem to have up and gone, now. maybe karma got to them, who knows.

the thing is, all that's happened here has already happened. i was groomed once as well, severely bullied, and i was all but like, 9-12 years old. i wish there was a way we could bring all the awful people to justice, especially in regards to the admin, who let this all just. happen. for some reason. but i'm not sure how we'd go about that, since there are many complications within that, and a large amount of time has passed since a lot of incidents.

at any rate, getting into therapy helped me a lot. that, and just learning to move on, find greener pastures, do my best. i suffered for quite a while in the aftermath, but i'm a lot better, now. it didn't help that my offline life, during and for a while after i was on this site, wasn't that great for a while there, either.

thankfully, the past 5 years have been relatively kind to me. i hope you can find that peace, as well. i know it's easier to say than to do, and it may come off as ignorant, but as someone who went through a lot of the same things on here as many others did, don't let it jade you. you're going to be fine. some day, somehow.

i hope everyone who was hurt by the others on this site find peace and healing. maybe in staying here you can make new memories. once dark allows users to join again maybe some new people will find their way to the site too, and then lots of new memories could be made.

til then, keep working on yourselves. don't rush healing, it doesn't work that way. you gotta give yourselves time to feel the emotions and come to terms with stuff in the past. in time, who knows, you might be open to trying again even here.

I was originally not going to spoil this text, but I feel embarrassed talking about my significant other on this forum for some reason. Oh, well.

‘Do you think we should kiss?’ Agent suddenly said, breaking the silence in what’s already a slow day in the HQ.

‘Pardon?’ Dot asked, turning to the only other penguin inside of the HQ right now. She had to do a double take because she didn’t not believe what she heard them say.

‘S-Should um, we kiss?’ Agent stammered, now embarrassed both over what they just said and Dot’s reaction to it.

‘We’re still in the middle of work though, Ace.’ Dot then states.

‘I know, but nothing much is going on, everyone else is out right now and um… we haven’t had the chance to do it yet.’ Agent rambled awkwardly.

‘Hm, you do raise a fair point.’ Dot stopped to actually ponder this. They never actually had the chance to have their first kiss as a couple before. And it’s not like they’ve been given anything to do from their higher ups.
‘... Hold on, you’ve checked your spy gadget right? Any news from our co-workers?’

‘Nope nothing, I’ve been doing nothing but check it for the past 30 minutes.’ Agent replied, while checking their device again in the process.

Dot raised an eyebrow, as she too checked her spy gadget. And yup, the most recent message was an hour ago now, with JPG pointing out that everything is fine. It really is a slow day today if even JPG has nothing to say. There’s got to be a non-life threatening and/or non-dangerous way to make the day more interesting… maybe.

‘... Alright, I’m convinced, how about we do it now?’ Dot states, putting her spy gadget into her coat.

‘O-Oh! Right now?!’ Agent jumped, surprised Dot is going with their suggestion.

‘Yeah, might as well spice the day up a little don’t you think.’ Dot smirked lovingly at them.

‘Right! Okay! Sure!’ Agent hopped up excitedly from their seat, shoving their spy gadget back into their tie.
‘Um, it’d be a little weird to kiss out in the open like this though.’

‘Yeah true, and there’s not really any places to hide around the HQ, most of it is very open…’ Dot pondered, tapping a nearby desk.

‘Hmm… This is going to sound stupid but.’ Agent stood up from the chair by the I.S.E.E.U. They walked towards the closet on one side of the HQ and popped out the keypad to said closet, but not typing any numbers on it yet.

‘You want us to kiss inside the Command Room? That’s not exactly a closed off area either.’ Dot tilted her head, confused on what Agent is doing.

‘No no, I’m aware. But I’m thinking… maybe, inside the closet itself?’ Agent fumbled with their flippers as they elaborated.
‘I mean, it’s still a closet at the end of the day, and there’s no cameras in there I think.’

‘I… like that idea. Though wait, we would still be blocking a doorway to the Command Room. Do you have a plan in case one of our co-workers shows up?’ Dot then asked, a little worried.

‘Y-Yeah! We just go back into the Command Room and pretend like nothing happened. If that makes any sense.’ Agent explained.

‘Wow you really thought about a lot of this. I’m glad my lessons in stealth have paid off in this way.’ Dot smiled, blushing quite a bit.

‘Hey don’t mention it! I learn from the best.’ Agent waved their flippers, giving a bashful smile in response. After processing that compliment, they then turn back to the secret door, they take a deep breath beforehand.
‘Alright, here goes nothing.’

Agent typed the password into the keypad, and watched as the drawers stick out, forming a stairway and the Command Room door opens up, revealing the secret room that neither secret agent will be going into. Agent then reaches their flipper out in which Dot grips onto it as they both walk into the closet together.

After jumping inside of the hidden door, the two waited for the entrance and the Command Room door to close on them, giving the both of them the closed off privacy they would need. They crouched a little, pushing some of the hanged clothes out of the way to give themselves more room to move in. They both should have thought more about how they were going to do this but it was no use changing plans now.

‘Wait, how would we get out of here now? The key pad is outside the closet…’ Agent only then realised and then asked. Slowly shuffling across the cramped closet.

I don't want to sound like that I am victim blaming but a lot of these posts from returning users sound more like bitterness about their lives and blaming the site for it while using hindsight as their anecdote. Unless you were actually groomed of course in which case you are totally valid for your feelings.

Were there groomers? Yes. Were there weird relationships? Yes. But there was only really one instance of a minor publicly dating a loser that nobody noticed. Everything else was in DMs or outside of the forums. The individuals blaming dark or the mods really need to realize that there was literally no way for someone to know about these relationships because most of them took place in private or outside the website. This is not a problem unique to DarkSpyro. This still exists today on sites like Discord and TikTok. I don't see a reason to shift blame to mods if there was literally no way to know this stuff was happening. And in the case where they did know said user was quickly deleted from the site upon finding out.

There was simply no way for people to know what was happening unless it showed up on the site itself. Which is why the only valid criticism of users failing others was with that loser creep who liked Kingdom Hearts because he was publicly saying weird stuff to a minor. I also have opinions about blaming the adults on this site. What adults? Most of this site were children, teens, and 20 somethings who were terminally online. Other adults were literally only here for Skylanders news and were not using the site to make personal connections with children. Adults on this site have their own lives with children or work. They are not gonna know about CynderFan3924 having e-sex with skylandergiantsiscool38. This complaint about adults failing the kids on this site seems more like creating a fictional person to shift blame to. Because if you want to blame someone for grooming, blame the losers and weirdos who use their power dynamics to date minors.

The sexual nature of threads from the 2010's were created from terminally online children, teens, and 20 somethings who are sexually frustrated and have very little interaction with people outside the site. This is the prime audience for sexual discourse and jokes. Hell, go on any anime subreddit and most of the threads will be a meme about anime girl 342 being sexy.

Another common complaint I see is people talking about cyberbullying. Kids and teens are naturally bullies. They don't have the mental capacity to know the consequences of bullying. And again most of the people on this site were terminally online and probably got bullied outside of it. It's common for kids to vent out frustrations and harassment to others, especially with the anonymity that comes with online boards. Cyberbullying is not exclusive to DarkSpyro. Could there have been less threads making fun of users? Yes. But bullying is one of the hardest things to moderate. As evident with literally every website like YouTube, X, Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, etc. Humans are just natural trash-talkers.

When I was 12-18 I was also really stupid and got worried about stuff like my thread only having 2 replies. But now I have real stuff to worry about like my cybersecurity career and paying rent. I could really care less about Spyronatic23 not agreeing with my opinions on Sonic Generations. I still like going on this site because of nostalgia and I still talk to people that I met through the forums. But every time I see someone whine about this site destroying their lives it seems more like trying to find an enemy to blame, rather than finding a solution to help themselves get better. Block this website if you hate it, log out, get professional therapy, etc. The problems found on DarkSpyro are still happening in today's online world and we can use our experiences to help future children not get groomed by losers.

^This was pretty humbling. The off-site thing is a really important factor. Most grooming occurred off platform and would have been completely unenforceable from a moderation standpoint. The adults part is actually a really good point and I'm going to change my post.

To argue why people are "putting blame" on any mods or even Dark, obviously the mods and Dark weren't going to know what was happening within the more private areas of the site. It's because if something does/did come out, it'd be Dark who would mainly get the heat from it, so I've always been a bit confused as to why there wasn't extra care put into everything, especially on a website with a game geared toward mainly younger individuals, but that's just me.

"20 somethings who were terminally online" are... still adults, by the way.

Semantics, whatever, I'm sure. I suppose it's luck that nothing got too out of control to the point of something like I said actually happening.

Regardless of how "the times" were back then, that doesn't mean it was okay, or should have happened in the first place.

The entire fifth paragraph of that post makes me roll my eyes, but the view I have about that is just within my experience and opinions.

I understand it can get annoying to see people "whine" about how it "destroyed their entire lives" or somesuch, but you have to remember that people come from all walks of life, and some don't have the... "tough skin" like you may have. However, you are correct in the respect of that they need to get help, rather than wallowing in it. But that's ultimately up to them. We can yap all we want about it, but we can't make them do anything.

To be honest, this entire discussion is just going to be all of us talking in circles and repeating ourselves. What's done has been done, and whoever wants to complain will complain, and if we've said our piece, then we'd already said our piece.

Like, there's a difference in trying to explain certain things, and then there's what you just did, which had zero empathy and more talking down to people, in a way.

You can be heavy handed about the truth without being a hardass about it, but that just might be me wanting to be "too nice" or whatever the hell.

Here, I'll put it in a better way:
Old southern proverb (lol) : "You get more with honey than vinegar".

i like these dogs.

that's so in tune with what im saying + i also love that image BECAUSE of what it's about

lovely and beautiful and true.

i always forget about this place for months and then i’m like “oh i haven’t checked darkspyro in a while”. i do miss da good ol days when i was literally a child just having fun on forum. i’ll snoop around a bit and then forget about it for another few months. i haven’t interacted with anybody on here in like a year and before that it was 4 years until somebody pmed me. that’s OK but i do miss having a reason to log on
edit actually after looking at my avatar gallery i understand why nobody talks to me lmfao

might have to accept i am no longer a blonde but a brunette

Quote: Carmelita Fox

might have to accept i am no longer a blonde but a brunette

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Hey guys, not sure if anyone here will remember me. I decided to do a quick lookie at the forms because I suddenly remembered it and was like 'ohhhhh I remember this.... I wonder how it's going?'. Then yeah came to the comments on this thread.... It made me want to login and make a post since reading it all was very sad to see and I got a trip down memory lane ;0;

I think I do remember some people here??? The name Sess rings a bell and yes I was someone who definitely did not like that person. They were nasty and should have been banned, as like a lot of people on this forum who did a lot of bullying and trolling. I remember clashing with Sess a lot aha. They would post a topic about unpopular opinions but when you post an unpopular opinion, they would do a passive aggressive argument about it lmao
It's unfortunately yeah a forum where a lot of people went on it who ended up being 'chronically online' as a result of using it as a form of escapism. I was one of those people myself back when I was 12-18, but I'm thankful that I never had any bad experiences except one that I recall, but it didn't effect me much. I do feel horrible for the people who did have terrible experiences and it effected them.

My anxiety tells me I could have been someone who was friendly with people who did do trolling. I do apologise if I was or effected anyone here badly. I was in my mid teens back then, 28 now, and that's unfortunately the result of a forum that consists of all teens and children which yeah I think is pretty ****ed looking back at it. A lot of these sites like deviant art would have similar stories. The internet was very different back then unfortunately and accepted cyberbullying and grooming a lot more than today :') the internet is a lot different in this regard now thankfully.

I hope the people who were effected are able to find the help they need and leave this site for good, and I hope they are able to move on from it all.

I will keep this here since it counts as my personal thoughts right now: I also am seeing comments like the forum is dying, etc. which honestly I think is amazing to hear. As someone who did move on, I will say its honestly such a blessing to do if it's impacting negatively or just an addiction at this point, and reading these posts further makes me feel that. I do thank you all for the trip down memory lane, it was a very bittersweet moment. I know the site hosts positive memories for me mostly and I still thank it for giving me some excitement/something to look forward to after school and help me get through until I was able to make some friends irl finally so I'm not chronically online... but I guess we all ended up being like that anyway regardless due to social media being massive part of our lives now lol.

Hope you all have a nice day

Oh yeah also wanted to add that nah I'm more in line with ArisaArtisan here with the bullying. I can't explain further through without it going personal which is something I do not wish to do here. But I will just say that it can effect victims even in their adult years like ****ing PTSD. It can cause a lot of other issues that are triggering so I will not say. I do not wish it on anyone, and in only close to fully healing from it now when I'm close to 30. I think it's easy for those who don't experience it at all, were bullies themselves or only bullied to a small extent to say things like 'that is what kids do, they bully'. But there can be safety measures in place to stop it for sure, even online. And in all honesty I think a lot of people who don't have this mentality is a reason there was a lot going on with this forum back in the day to begin with???

Edit: yeah looking back at the post now it wasnt about bullying in general but cyberbullying, which yeah my bad my language disorder makes me miss read posts a lot. But my post I believe still stands since cyberbullying I personally feel can be just as bad, so I'm keeping it here.

^i remember you from a while back. i dont remember anything problematic or anyone i was aware who had an issue with you you seemed pretty cool. it is nice to hear from you!

also have to say what you and ArisaArtisan have said on the above matter.

there reallt is no excuse for the things that happened even if you wanted to say "no one could have possibly known". well that's a problem. if you make a forum for kids or where you know there will be or is the chance there will be a lot of kids. thats a problem. even then that reallt shouldnt apply in this situation. people warned dark and the mods about sess (just to name one because there were other bullies and obnoxiously bad people like Zap who took forever for another one) repeatedly for years and years. seas was banned once because of their disgusting behavior and was stupidly allowed back in to terrorize the forum and many users for almost a decade after that. that was a problem that could have been dealt with and if it was when it should have been the people sess hurt may not have been hurt. this same idea applies to many of the creeps and bullies on the site. they were freely allowed to do as they pleased no matter what rules they broke and they were not dealt with until it atacked to leak into legal questionable level.

and the mods at the time at least some of them and dark because he did not act on this absolutely had responsibility in the sess case at least back then (not for the directly abhorrent stuff that led to the ban just the fact that sess had run of the forum) because of the Skype group. i was close friends with a few of the mods from that group "friends" in one specific case but they frequently spoke to me about and admitted that the darkspyro "illuminati that Skype group which still exists as a discord group now had significant sway and control over what happened over the forum. many of the mods were also in that group. and who was the head of the group. why sess of course. until a certain point someone else took that over. but sess still remained a significant part of it. and dess had very VERY significant sway over that group and therefore what happened on the forum and basically immunity for many many years from an real punishment for their actions on the forum. and this is not me just assuming this i was directly told this by those people in the Skype group and by thr person who "owned" the group when sess was removed. now sess is the one who deserves the hate and the most responsibility put on them but you cannot reasonably say that the mods could not have done something because they did not know what was happening because regardless of the knowledge of the really nasty stuff which NO they did not know and i absolutely believe that it was a huge problem that they let sess do as they pleased. so no thag is not a defense to that. sess did enough rule breaking and public bullying and harmful behavior to warrant a ban regardless of the behind the scenes terrible stuff.

and that happened many times with other users where i would say less on the mods and more on dark in most of the other cases because even the mods wanted many of these other people gone and dark refused for whatever reason until it could not be ignored only then when action was taken on them for whatever reason.

i do want to point out that i still believe there was manipulation and even bullying on the mod level too by sess. that is not an excuse but a reason why sess had so much power. i say this because while i do say their is responsibility their on the mods from that time i also understand that sess was vile in every group they had a part in and i know their was gaslighting and manipulation that played a part there too and that should very much also be acknowledged.

most of the very nasty users and bullies on this site were able to ride freely for much longer then necessary and that drove many people away from the forum.

these people here are not "whining" sorry. they had to put up with thing that they should have had to put up with and in most cases as children. and that is not OK.

also your other point i stand by two DarkCynder.

the mentality a lot of people had on this forum definitely was a problem. "oh just ignore it / ignore them" and "your are just whining" and laughing it off. a lot of the bullies would have or form cliques around them that would belittle the feelings if those being hurt diminish and deflect the seriousness of the clear cyberbullying that was going on.

and also yes cyberbullting i believe can absolutely be as bad as real life bullying. i say this having experienced most of the bullying i experienced which was very vicious indeed having happened to me in real life but i have seen through the words of others how badly it can be even on the internet especially with children. and like it or not the internet is a consistent pattern of daily life and communication and some people grew up in forums and places like these and with these places being a significant pattern of their lives
whether or not it should have been that way is a different discussion the point is that it was and beyond that there is never an excuse for bullying people.

look any sort of bullying is not OK.

and this place i think is finally free of all of those nasty users. it is a super chill place where everybody for the most part gets along and everyone just chills now and memes about stuff.

and i think if users from the past who had to experience the bullying and vile behavior of users from the past want to come back and express themselves here and how it made them feel they should do that.

as long as they are not causing drama which none of them so far are what is the issue with it. they arent bothering anyone and the people being spoken of arent here now they are banned or just left many years back by now.

i say feel comfortable expressing yourself and the experiences you had here.

that is what these topics are for anyway.

sometimes it just helps to get something odd your chest and i can easily understand how coming back to the place where it happened and to drop a post can be a relief and therapeutic.

and i do not see a problem with that.

Oh wow yeah I do remember the Skype group being a thing, but I joined when it became a discord group.... But I think by that point I wasn't near as in with the people as I used to so yeah definitely wasn't involved. So glad though that sounds so vile, legal action??? What the actual heck? I know the worst I got was the usual, getting asked out from desperate boy seeing a single girl and feeling uncomfy from it I guess (which one of these in turn relates to the bad experience I once had of a user ending the whole friendship entirely due to me turning them down). Anyway I do believe that Sess being so prominent everywhere was a huge turn away for me due to me struggling to get along with them. But I didn't recall other users having similar issues plus they seemed to be friends with the mods pretty sure or like ran the discord so thought I couldn't do anything about it I guess. I am glad to hear that they did ended up getting removed from the site though along with a few others I've noticed also got the ban. So I'm glad to hear that the site has finally gone in a better direction.

That's also amazing that it seems like I didn't cause anyone grief though! ;;

as far as i know the mods who called sess out reported them to police yeah. Levy who was an older user on here ended up in prison sentenced to like 40 years or something like that. as far as legal stuff yeah ma y many laws were broken by certain users here or former users in the Levy case. i only hope it will all catch up to sess one day too.

yeah to be clear through darkspyro group that is linked the discord one on here is a seperate much more pleasant and chill group the Skype then discord turned one was like a really corny "le secret club"group. the one sess started.

yeah definitely know the creept obsessive boy one when i came back in 2017 i had this obsessive fan base pretty much of boys and i will never understand why i am just happy it is over. and met one of the worst creepy amd manipulative boys ever because of this site quite almost ruined my life went to a very very bad place because of that so called friendship. their were plenty of those guys on here i know several users who were run off this site because of that kind of stuff.

and yeah i dont blame you sess was probably the number one most frequent cause of running people off of the site several people i spoke with or was sort of friends with left be cause of sess and the sess posse. it was ridiculous and just happy it is done now.

and yeah no as far as i am aware you were never a menace. i have never heard your name come up in the list of darkspyro felons. so im sure you good.

can i have the list of darkspyro felons?

So... We're all just gonna be victim blamers here huh? Or not even acknowledge how a cycle of abuse works? Cool grand standing.

Sess had a huge influence on the "Illuminati" group because most of us that joined were minors and a lot of us mods were given the position as minors then growing up to adults. Granted we did a lot of damage, just the ill acknowledgement of the situation overall is frankly disgusting, especially on this dead end of a website now. Like it's clear as day a lot you lack information to the fullest extent and went on some conspiracy trip. Not a healthy to cope mind you. I ain't no therapist, but it is strange to come back to a website that brought a lot of pain, just go an attack other people that were victims on a situation that affected everyone, doesn't scream healthy. It screams vengeful and there's a lot better things to put that energy towards especially with the coming 4 years of another ass if you're in the US.

Sess also did get moderated here and there. Not as much as other users back then, but god forbid if we did moderate her because we would be getting like 100+ messages of how it's bull**** from her, on Skype at the time. Ya know just a nugget of knowledge for ya.

Oh yeah definitely understand that there is stories on both sides, and the mods would have had to deal with a lot of **** too. So definitely not blaming mods, especially since I wasn't even present in the first place. I'm sure you guys did your best too, especially considering a lot of you would have been minors. There is no block button to stop people from sending you messages?

In case of people who were victims of bullying not reporting. I can understand why as a victim of bullying but struggled to tell teachers. Because it's the case of, if you do, there is a fear of the bully doing something to get back at you for doing it. It's yeah a fear of facing the bully because they will for sure confront you about it if they aren't removed right away. I even have issues reporting people at the workplace to HR for the same reason and ended up doing it at an exit interview.... which obviously wasn't the best choice. May have been the case here, but obviously can't speak for those people this is just my suggestion. But yeah obviously if it's happening in personal messages and it's not reported of course mods won't know about it. And yeah if the person you are reporting seems to be popular or other people like them, that can also make you have doubts and think maybe they are actually fine aha. Just yeah again sharing my thoughts.

Damn wtf is my signature..... Huh.... Interesting....

i want to point out that i SPECIFICALLY stated that on my post. there was no "victim blaming in what i said. for ejat it is worth since you bring up the age sess was also in the same age group. i was also mostly thinking about a select few mods of who i know arent here and specificsllt admitted stuff to me personally.

in my post i said "the mods definitely have some responsibility for letting sess get away with so much." and i had those specific mods TELL ME DIRECTLY that they LET sess get away with it. got tired of putting up with sess so just started to leave it alone but then i said "it should definitely be noted that sess greatly manipulated people in the Skype group so while there is some responsibility sess still abused those people too." right in my post. the Skype group had control of things outside of just what sess did some things that wrre not OK still and if you are in the position of a moderator and people are being bullied and pushed around and nothing being done about it there needs to be SOME responsibility even if the sum of that responsibility is irrelevant compared to what the real villain im the situation did.

and sess alone was not the onlt person or user who was not dealt with when they should have been so that does not capture the whole of what i was speaking about when i said mod responsibility or Skype group responsibility because there were more problems outside of that.

amd their is no conspiracy on my patt unless i was directly lied to by the second "owner" of the Skype group and i have those messages and texts everything i said i was directly told by people FROM that Skype group. no conspiracy and the information i do have came directly from members of the group who were very very active at one point in said group.

to clear it up.

"we were like the illuminati of darkspyro"

"we definitely had major sway in things that happened on the forum"

"sess definitely had major sway in the group and pn the forum"

"and a lot of the moderators were in on the group."


along with more or less a full list of names that were in the group.


were all things shared with me in private off forum conversations by people from the group.

while some of the quotes are pribablt somewhat paraphrased. as in minor words used like " and but if so" the key words like illuminati major sway moderators manipulation" those were all direct things stated to me.


at least on my part there is no victim blaming. i do not do that. i acknowledge that a lot of people im the group were also victims but there were things done by those people that were also victims too that ended up causing other people harm. and even still with that said i specifically pointed out that the blame for most of it the sess situation should be put on sess. at the end of the day the moderators DID correct the issue eventually and we're specifically the ones to call out sess and dral with it. so that issue was righted and as far as i am concerned resolved. but i speak for me i dont know if other users feel differently or still feel hurt or affected by any of that.

in short im not BLAMING the mods. the people to blame were the bullies and harrasserst. but there still was some RESPONSIBILITY on the mods. the point in being a mid is to moderate the community appropriately and tjat was not always done in the best way.

but at the end of the day i feel even that is insignificant compared to the harm the real perpetrators caused. i only spoke responsibility which should be more then fair when speaking of people who were in the position of both moderators and those in a Skype group who knew more then the average user about things happening but by no means do i mean to imply "all of the harm or bad is the fault of the moderators."

the blame is on the bullies and bad actors.


that is it.


any hate should be focused on those people at this point.

it was a discussion of things from the past.

i most definitely do not have any ill will toward anyone other then those bad actors.

if any of that was in response to what i wrote i hope the cleared up both my position on this and the informational that was given to me by people who were a direct part of the situation.

can i have the list of darkspyro felons?

i could probably pull that file up for you yeah lol i have been here or in touch since like 2007 i could probably remember all of the darkspyro famous "felons."