darkSpyro

The best way to tell how the quality went down is to take a poll of every person who is a smash fan and ask them what their favorite game is. And when they all say melee, you'll see that's when it started, and also when all the third party characters started jumping the ban wagon. And again *in my personal opinion*, I'm not speaking for anyone else, or writing in ink.
But my words are being twisted. I'm not disrespecting any character or saying any third party characters are better than another. I was saying nintendo characters would of been better because the cameos are ruining smash in my -personal opinion-

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The best way to tell how the quality went down is to take a poll of every person who is a smash fan and ask them what their favorite game is. And when they all say melee, you'll see that's when it started, and also when all the third party characters started jumping the ban wagon. And again *in my personal opinion*, I'm not speaking for anyone else, or writing in ink.
But my words are being twisted. I'm not disrespecting any character or saying any third party characters are better than another. I was saying nintendo characters would of been better because the cameos are ruining smash in my -personal opinion-

we get it you like fire emblem

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The best way to tell how the quality went down is to take a poll of every person who is a smash fan and ask them what their favorite game is. And when they all say melee, you'll see that's when it started, and also when all the third party characters started jumping the ban wagon. And again *in my personal opinion*, I'm not speaking for anyone else, or writing in ink.
But my words are being twisted. I'm not disrespecting any character or saying any third party characters are better than another. I was saying nintendo characters would of been better because the cameos are ruining smash in my -personal opinion-

people say melee because its the bandwagon answer. people will say melee because they are either really into the competitive scene or they hear about it being the best one. i actually see ultimate getting the most talk with casuals and competitive players alike


also polls mean nothing when they can easily be used to fit any narrative. doesn't help that when you google best smash bros game ultimate usually ends up winning

In my case, I would adore to see Terra, Rydia, Yuna and Kefka added as FF characters(if we can’t get a proper Dissidia 3)

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The best way to tell how the quality went down is to take a poll of every person who is a smash fan and ask them what their favorite game is. And when they all say melee, you'll see that's when it started, and also when all the third party characters started jumping the ban wagon. And again *in my personal opinion*, I'm not speaking for anyone else, or writing in ink.
But my words are being twisted. I'm not disrespecting any character or saying any third party characters are better than another. I was saying nintendo characters would of been better because the cameos are ruining smash in my -personal opinion-

we get it you like fire emblem

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self roast too, sorry.

Actually no, I think swords are getting even worse than the third party characters.
And it's remarkable how one loose opinion can trigger so much hostility just because it's different. I would of bubble wrapped it more if I knew it was going to start a rant. I'm not being hateful, or disrespectful. Just my thoughts on the subject. Literally has no impact on the rest of the world or the game.

Ultimate is my favorite game in the series, the physics feel off to me a little but it's not game breaking by any means, and I miss the trophy system. At the end of the day the character direction they are going with seems off the beaten path but I'll also buy any character they put out lol

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The best way to tell how the quality went down is to take a poll of every person who is a smash fan and ask them what their favorite game is. And when they all say melee, you'll see that's when it started, and also when all the third party characters started jumping the ban wagon.

It's definitely not because of the roster though. People who find Melee to be the best is because of its unique mechanical depth that allows it to be the competitive gem this audience loves so much. If Ultimate had the exact same roster it currently has, but had all of the Melee mechanics intact, it would be those people's favorite game. People at the time went insane with that magazine hoax who claimed Sonic was in the game, if that's any indication.

Exactly. The mechanics, and physics for nerfed and just hasn't felt exactly the same since. Nothing major. I might just be a purist though, and although melee is my favorite of the franchise it isn't because of two fire emblem characters. Two of the least popular characters lol. Melee was just the one title I remember the most fondly.

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I might just be a purist though, and although melee is my favorite of the franchise it isn't because of two fire emblem characters. Two of the least popular characters lol.

Dunno what you mean by least popular. Sure they were obscure in the West when Melee came out, but Marth and Roy got the hearts of the fanbase pretty quickly. Not only are they a constant presence in competitive play, Marth has become a mainstay in the series, and Roy was so beloved people were clamoring for him to come back, and they went nuts when he did in 4. Marth is a common character for tournaments in every Smash game and Roy also has a big presence. Plus even casual players like them, no matter if they know their origin games.

I agree completely. And if it wasn't for melee fire emblem probably wouldn't of ever been localized for western audiences. I don't have anything against them at all. Martha and Ike are a couple of my mains. There are alot of people who vividly dislike swords though although I don't see why. Just because a character holds a sword doesn't make them any less unique or diverse.

the **** was sakurai tripping on when he designed sephiroths up smash and how do i get some so i can get that blasted out of my mind

i had a friend who mained pikachu and they'd spam the attack that makes pikachu say "pika!"

it's me
i'm the next character

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it's me
i'm the next character

What music do you come with though

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it's me
i'm the next character

What music do you come with though

tv static

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it's me
i'm the next character

What music do you come with though

tv static

Yooooo

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i had a friend who mained pikachu and they'd spam the attack that makes pikachu say "pika!"

Do I know them?

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i had a friend who mained pikachu and they'd spam the attack that makes pikachu say "pika!"

Do I know them?

i don't think so?? unless it's you...

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i had a friend who mained pikachu and they'd spam the attack that makes pikachu say "pika!"

Do I know them?

i don't think so?? unless it's you...

O_O

Well, it just sounds so familiar, like I knew someone who would do that all the time...

ah, ok! i wasn't sure if you were joking around or not

Lol, no, I was serious. Might have been one of my siblings screwing around on purpose.

looks like the main strat the devs wanted was to start with mythra and then go pyra kinda like zelda and sheik in melee. but unlike sheik in melee mythra has a lot more trouble killing. characters feel as good as any other character and mythras dair can combo into itself lol. i personally think mythra is the better character because she combos like mad but pyra is fun too

i just use mythra for the down taunt and pyra for the everything else

I love how fast Pyra/Mythra can transform. It's a shame they couldn't have just made all transforming characters work like this in the first place.

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I love how fast Pyra/Mythra can transform. It's a shame they couldn't have just made all transforming characters work like this in the first place.

i wonder if they can i frame stuff while transforming

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i wonder if they can i frame stuff while transforming

They probably load everything up before the fight so it doesn't take too long to transform, dunno if that was the same for earlier entries.

Oh no another fighting game character in a fighting game

EVERYBODY SUCK MY NUTS I GOT MY SECOND MOST WANTED

happy for tekken fans, hoping the final fighter is a big deal