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A good game that comes to mind would be idk life is strange? It just seems like whenever games introduce lgbt elements it's either shat on by "gamers" for being too forced or shat on by the lgbt for not being enough or offensive.

Like how would you introduce an lgbt character in a game? Personally I think just stating that they are lgbt in a bio or something is enough but apparently it's not to others.

I think one of favorite ways media has potrayed a gay character is in scott pilgrim where they just said they were gay and pretty much acted the same

Just no gay stuff, easy.

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Just no gay stuff, easy.

Generic cis bald white man wins again B)

Don't think this is one that can be won and the best way to approach it is just saying that it was in the writer's vision all along, was never meant to push a agenda and just leave it as that. You gave your fans the truth and that's it. People will still cry about it but that's how they can get.
We still get people complaining if there's people of color with a leading role or literately any role.

Lots of people need a reason to be victimized and will aim to get it from the most stupidest bizarre stuff. Stuff that sometimes doesn't even apply to them. Others want to feel like they're the good guys and will look for things to nitpick so they can be offended in someone's stead.

I don't think a lgbt character needs to be fleshed out for only their lgbt, but instead on their whole history and/or motivation on the story. Why did they decided it was ok to help a stranger? Is it because they had some past where they were in the stranger's shoes or are they just nice? Is the reason they're nice because that was the request of their dying mother they seek to uphold or because they feel the world has too much evil already? Stuff like that. Not like, why is she gay? Why are they trans? Questions like these have simple answers that I don't feel they need to be dwelled on. She just never took a interest in boys. He just realized he never was a girl. You could explain how they got to that conclusion, but keep it short and sweet because you got more to explain about a character than just that.

But yeah, basically say your character is lgbt if you want to, and just leave it as that. Maybe add a character bio explaining their history on what makes them the person they are now. If someone ask, tell them the truth if they're not or are lgbt. If a riot starts, again tell the truth that it was always part of the plan and it was never meant to offend anyone. Won't dose the fire but will make it obvious who the idiots are. Which is always a plus, I guess.

Handle it the same way they handle any other game because all an lgbtq game wants is to be treated like every other game.

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A good game that comes to mind would be idk life is strange? It just seems like whenever games introduce lgbt elements it's either shat on by "gamers" for being too forced or shat on by the lgbt for not being enough or offensive.

Like how would you introduce an lgbt character in a game? Personally I think just stating that they are lgbt in a bio or something is enough but apparently it's not to others.

I think one of favorite ways media has potrayed a gay character is in scott pilgrim where they just said they were gay and pretty much acted the same

The game Tell Me Why had pretty good representation, same developers as LiS

Tbh I think it just has to do with the 2 ideologies of what a game should be. Like should it be something you play for fun or a form of media that potrays a message

all characters are gay, easy

A game shouldn't make a single aspect of a character their entire personality, it is a running problem when people try to include LGBT characters. As contrary to the portrayal I've seen, they're actually just normal people.

Ultimately,Treat them as you would any other character, never force something that doesn't fit into a situation or narrative. Just because something exists in real life, doesn't mean it needs to be omnipresent in media, because there are quite a few settings where LGBT doesn't make sense, as modern interpretations don't always fit the puzzle of older settings.

being lgbt is the single aspect of my personality

hi i'm gay

In the book I'm writing, there's two bi main characters and an ace, and I'm just gonna write them as such and not draw unnecessary attention to it. Like yeah, for the bi characters, dealing with crushes that happen to be the same sex is gonna be part of their characters, but it's not gonna be their entire personality, nor is it just something shoved into their characters for diversity points. I just wanna write their struggles uniquely and interestingly.
Same with the media I consume. Like, if it makes sense to have an LGBT person and their sexuality isn't totally overblown, yeah, I'm down! Probably worth noting that the media I consume is not romancey in nature... that's a different story. But for like, action and fantasy type stuff, there's usually an endgoal in mind that's way more important than having characters flex their romantic preferences.

Idk if it's just a vocal minority but everytime a character is revealed to be gay or something people have to say that it's not enough. What does that mean exactly?

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Idk if it's just a vocal minority but everytime a character is revealed to be gay or something people have to say that it's not enough. What does that mean exactly?

I guess it's because it's easy to just claim that a character is something for "brownie points"?

Tbh the most brownie point example is robot guy in borderlands 3. I remember this because I went a convention panel and they revealed that the character was non binary because it's a robot. This got no crowd reaction.

Yeah that was pretty bad but the character themself is the perfect way to have a nonbinary character. They only get refered to as they which may not be noticable but the upgrade screen makes it obvious. Plus the character has a nonbinary pin on their jacket which is super cool

if you can describe that character without mentioning their sexuality

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if you can describe that character without mentioning their sexuality

But what if it's not sexuality, but instead gender.


I can describe Tyler from Tell Me Why without either, he's a cool twin brother who has a special psychic link with his twin sister.

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if you can describe that character without mentioning their sexuality

But what if it's not sexuality, but instead gender.


I can describe Tyler from Tell Me Why without either, he's a cool twin brother who has a special psychic link with his twin sister.

Want to try again boss?

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if you can describe that character without mentioning their sexuality

But what if it's not sexuality, but instead gender.


I can describe Tyler from Tell Me Why without either, he's a cool twin brother who has a special psychic link with his twin sister.

You wanna try another round of that?

start with characterization before inserting sexuality/gender
make them to make a character not to check something off a list

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start with characterization before inserting sexuality/gender
make them to make a character not to check something off a list

THIS honestly. Like make characters not stereotypes. If the first word to describe a character is their sexuality or gender identity out the gate unironically, you ****ed up and need to go back to school.

this is sans, he's gay and trans and gay and trans and gay and trans and gay and trans and

sans says gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans and gays and trans rights

British people pooping be like hnngh oh bugger scrumptious hmm yes oh dear hnngh oooohhh oooh blimley mate... oooh oohhh... OOOHHH, ooh that one felt real literal yeah

blackholes wolf and vespi

My plan for writing LGBT characters:
1) Don’t
2) Don’t write straight characters either
3) Writing is hard
4) ???
5) Profit

wots all this then?

Just take Lois Lane and Change her to Louis Lane. Bam, gay Superman, easy peasy.