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#1 Posted: 13:58:22 26/07/2020 | Topic Creator
Here’s a question I wanted to learn people’s answers to

Why do people get excited/look forward to Videogame remakes, but Movie remakes are frowned upon?

Don’t get me wrong, I follow that mindset too, and too be fair a remasters happen for both which get people excited, but nonetheless.
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#2 Posted: 15:45:16 26/07/2020
To be honest I don't really like either of them most of the time. But video game remakes are usually just a pointless fresh coat of paint without changing much otherwise. I have found movie remakes to rarely be better than the originals since they often remake movies that don't need to be improved on in the first place. There are exceptions since the Wizard of Oz movie everyone knows and loves the most is a remake and I like the new RE2 over the original.
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#3 Posted: 23:27:22 26/07/2020
good question i kinda wonder the same. i guess one reasoning i could see is availability being a factor. lots of video games are hard to play because they are so old or simply feel outdated. games like resident evil 2 feel sluggish and weird yet the modernization of the remake has the same heart and soul of the original and more.

however there are also movies that do the same. movies such as the thing (1982) are clearly better than the original version (1951). the same can even be seen in the music industries with covers becoming the superior version such as blink 182's cover of 1985. however the main difference i see with these remakes is that they don't really try to honor the original the way video game remakes do. video game remakes honor the original games and thanks to the evolution of technology are able to get closer to the creator's vision.

i also believe that games simply age worse than movies. movies made from the 80s can still be seen to this day without much struggles while games from 2000 can feel awful.

people also just like to be negative about everything
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#4 Posted: 11:28:47 27/07/2020
because nobody likes hollywood
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#5 Posted: 13:12:04 27/07/2020
I'm getting somewhat of a remake fatigue but what makes me excited for a remake is when it provides a chance for bad or somehow underwhelming games to get another shot. Reimaginings are more my cup of tea because I can at least get a chance to see another director/team's view on a game, or to see some ideas from the original being taken into new directions.

When you do a remake just for dem new graphics it feels unnecessary. At this point just port the game. At least you don't run the risk of ruining the artstyle, plus it makes the old game available for a even wider audience, since it's cheaper to produce, thus cheaper to buy. Counters the problem of games being expensive like Sess mentioned.

Granted there are lot of good remakes that go against what I just said. I'm obviously not taking business factors into account (like remakes being used to test a franchise's sales potential), just artistic merits because I'm a hippie douchebag.
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#6 Posted: 14:15:17 27/07/2020
One big factor is that movies aren't really remade in the same sense that video games are.

Like, if we imagine a hypothetical video game style a remake of the Star Wars trilogy, for instance, it would mostly just be a visual upgrade with the same exact story, dialogue, and characterizations. But typically when a movie is remade, the story and characters are changed drastically, and usually for the worse.

The only movie remakes I can think of that are actually comparable to a video game remake, off the top of my head, are the live action Disney remakes. But in their case, the originals look a million times better, defeating the purpose of a straight remake. And even they make some pretty drastic changes to certain characters, such as the Genie in Aladdin or the Hyenas in The Lion King.

And then another factor is the human element. Movies, particularly live action movies, are associated with real human beings much moreso than video games. A straight visual upgrade of Terminator might very well be amazing, but it can never replace the impact Arnold's T-101 has had.
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#7 Posted: 23:23:59 28/07/2020
I'm not against movie remakes, if you plan to do a different take or fix up a bad movie.

Bad movie remakes:
-Pretty much most Disney films and you can smell the scum drooling for your wallet

Good movie remakes:
-The Mummy with Brandon Frazier (Yeah that was a remake to a old ass film which is still considered a classic by old horror and monster fans)

It's same with games as well, except in some cases the availability are as the others said limited (**** you nintendo you don't even really archive your own damn games that often)

Good remakes adds a lil bit and gets quite interesting, while bad remakes are kind of open and shut with other glitches and such.

It's really how do companies approach these ideas that actually really matter in the long af run really.
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#8 Posted: 01:42:40 29/07/2020
Quote: Trix Master 100
(**** you nintendo you don't even really archive your own damn games that often)


The recent leaks led me to believe Nintendo is really good at archiving their work. They just don't show or release anything to the audience :C.
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#9 Posted: 02:07:16 29/07/2020
Quote: Crash10
Quote: Trix Master 100
(**** you nintendo you don't even really archive your own damn games that often)


The recent leaks led me to believe Nintendo is really good at archiving their work. They just don't show or release anything to the audience :C.



yeah I'm gonna assume Nintendo has a vault somewhere full of games and their source codes. i really hope this vault is nuclear proof and people in the apocalypse find it just to be disappointed by retro video games
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#10 Posted: 02:32:59 29/07/2020
Also I think it's a propensity of movie remakes to not be anywhere near as good as the originals. While there are video game remakes that aren't as good in comparison as the originals, I feel like they're few and far between these days that people are more forgiving of video game remakes as opposed to movie remakes. Also as previously mentioned, video games are interactive, so you can naturally improve controls, etc. as technology improves. You could theoretically do the same with CGI in movies, but it's worth less effort to remake a movie just because the CGI hasn't aged well.
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#11 Posted: 03:11:16 29/07/2020
Quote: JCW555
Also I think it's a propensity of movie remakes to not be anywhere near as good as the originals. While there are video game remakes that aren't as good in comparison as the originals, I feel like they're few and far between these days that people are more forgiving of video game remakes as opposed to movie remakes. Also as previously mentioned, video games are interactive, so you can naturally improve controls, etc. as technology improves. You could theoretically do the same with CGI in movies, but it's worth less effort to remake a movie just because the CGI hasn't aged well.


These are also reasons why game sequels have a bigger demand than movie sequels.
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#12 Posted: 04:51:31 29/07/2020
Quote: Crash10
Quote: Trix Master 100
(**** you nintendo you don't even really archive your own damn games that often)


The recent leaks led me to believe Nintendo is really good at archiving their work. They just don't show or release anything to the audience :C.


While I am certain they probably do so nowadays because they realize just on their brand alone they can make another $60 off you just from porting the game over. In 2017 apparently some interesting thing Nintendo did was sell you a old ROM for the wii store.
https://www.technobuffalo.com/...super-mario-rom
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#13 Posted: 05:45:51 29/07/2020
game remakes are so meme and stupid just give me new games wtf game capitalists too lazy to come up with original content u stupid concave brain ass hos
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#14 Posted: 05:46:24 29/07/2020
tho it was nice to see some games in a new light...
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#15 Posted: 05:46:35 29/07/2020
ok i like remakes now
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#16 Posted: 13:43:02 29/07/2020
The point that game remakes can change *nothing* of the structure is a pretty good one. Reignited, Rehydrated, and the Destroy All Humans remakes are all good examples and also kinda don't help the remaster vs remake thing - you can add QOL, add extra missions, but also keep all the original voice lines, and if it's well done enough, even the choreography and things that were scrapped in the original. With a movie remake, everything has to go, and have to use the old elements in different ways, not reuse them.
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#17 Posted: 17:56:22 29/07/2020
i like remakes when they help people experience content they couldnt have experienced otherwise, and adds new content for previous fans without making negative changes to the OG and taking into account criticisms of the original work. Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition, Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy; these are all great examples of this. stuff like The Last of Us Remastered didn’t really need to be made.

that being said, movies cant really do that. if the film adds a unique twist for the better, im fine with it because you always have the original to fall back on if you dont like it and you don’t need specific hardware to enjoy films or shows or whatever.

that being said i hope Back to the Future never gets remade
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#18 Posted: 18:15:22 29/07/2020
Quote: Vespi
i like remakes when they help people experience content they couldnt have experienced otherwise, and adds new content for previous fans without making negative changes to the OG and taking into account criticisms of the original work. Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition, Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy; these are all great examples of this. stuff like The Last of Us Remastered didn’t really need to be made.

that being said, movies cant really do that. if the film adds a unique twist for the better, im fine with it because you always have the original to fall back on if you dont like it and you don’t need specific hardware to enjoy films or shows or whatever.

that being said i hope Back to the Future never gets remade



you already know back to the future is gonna get a remake with a kid from stranger things playing Marty where they go back to the 80s. cant wait for marty to dab or floss in the 80s and saying "Michael Jackson is pretty lit".

honestly I'm really surprised back to the future didn't get a remake/reboot yet. especially during 2015 when 80s nostalgia was huge.
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#19 Posted: 00:23:51 30/07/2020
Yes I'm glad TLoU is on PS4 but that's more of a port. I'm fine with those.
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#20 Posted: 16:01:13 30/07/2020
Quote: somePerson
Quote: Vespi
i like remakes when they help people experience content they couldnt have experienced otherwise, and adds new content for previous fans without making negative changes to the OG and taking into account criticisms of the original work. Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition, Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy; these are all great examples of this. stuff like The Last of Us Remastered didn’t really need to be made.

that being said, movies cant really do that. if the film adds a unique twist for the better, im fine with it because you always have the original to fall back on if you dont like it and you don’t need specific hardware to enjoy films or shows or whatever.

that being said i hope Back to the Future never gets remade



you already know back to the future is gonna get a remake with a kid from stranger things playing Marty where they go back to the 80s. cant wait for marty to dab or floss in the 80s and saying "Michael Jackson is pretty lit".

honestly I'm really surprised back to the future didn't get a remake/reboot yet. especially during 2015 when 80s nostalgia was huge.



There's only about a 50% chance it gets a remake/hard reboot. The other 50% chance is that it gets a soft reboot/revival style sequel. This will depend on whether or not they can get the original actors back to be in a supporting role for a bunch of young actors that'll replace them.
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