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I’m hesitant to fall into the Persona hole. I’m not a huge fan of turn based combat but the aesthetic and characters of the games seem cool and i love the art style. I don’t know if I have to time and money to spend on the games and the hours to play all the games I can get my hands on if i were to get into the series. Because I can’t just play one, I’d want to play 4 and 3 and Q and maybe even the dancing games.

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Also this is kind of dumb i know, but i’m afraid of liking all the characters and wanting to buy figures of them all :|| and that’s so much money holy god

This is what happened with Fate and like i’m not upset i got into fate, but it’s definitely a lot to take in and understand.

Does this sound stupid lol?

to be fair, im not much of a JRPG person either, but i really fell in love with persona starting with 5, and id say its probably the best jumping on point
3 is good but tartarus sucks, and i just dont like many of the characters in 4
that being said, it is a 100+ hour game, it really is a time investment, but it is totally worth it

the spinoffs are decent too! persona 5: dancing in starlight would probably be your best bet since it's a rhythm game i got through in 2 days
persona q is kinda eh to me, its also a serious time investment. i think the only way persona q can pull me in is with P5 elements, which theyre doing this june lol

TL;DR:
good music + good story - good gameplay = persona 3
good music + good gameplay - good story = persona 4
good music + good gameplay + good story = persona 5

Quote: Bifrost

It's not the kind of game where you MUST play all though. It's not called semi-VN for nothing. You can engage with the characters just as much by watching let's plays as you can with the console, because they're mostly so easy to identify with.

i kinda wouldnt recommend using lets plays to judge the story of games like the persona series just because sometimes the content creator might be totally disinterested in a character youre super stoked to learn more about
id say play it for the most customizable experience, that way if you love a certain character but cant stand another, you dont have to sit through all their quests and stuff

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also, weird aside here, i think it's honestly really interesting that my three favorite game series are genres and tones i normally wouldnt like otherwise
im not a fan of strategy games, im not a fan of stealth games, and im not a fan of JRPGs, and here i am, loving fire emblem, metal gear, and persona
i think it really speaks to their quality that they can pull me into genres i normally dont like

Oh don't worry I don't mean any Let's Play. My real intro to the series was SuperJeenius who 100% Persona 4 Golden and would point out all the neat little things hidden in the world.

My only problem with 5 which MIGHT be reticified in Royal, aside from the minor problems of meh gay representation, is that the characters don't get enough time to be themselves after the first arc. Joker is CRAZY developed if you read between the lines (unlike Yu and Minato, you're not picking what you want to say, you're picking what he wants but can't decide), Ann and Ryuji are great, Morgana falls apart at points but he's still enjoyable. Makoto and Futaba just proceed to eclipse all character interaction after, and I feel like Yusuke, Akechi and ESPECIALLY Haru suffer for it.

It's lacking a sequence like the Junes show or the skiing lodge from 4, where there's no looming threat and they can stop being serious for 5 seconds. But that's because the characters ARE great, they just don't get to show it as much (aside from Mementos dialogue which... no. It took several months for someone DELIBERATELY farming dialogue to roll every single one).

I get occasional swings of depression and self-loathing, but rarely share and instead put on a mask and pretend everything is fine and I'm happy, but I don't share this because I feel like telling people is guilt tripping or asking for pity, even now I'm regretting making this post.

I was diagnosed with severe depression a year and a bit ago, but I stopped seeing my doctor shortly after I began going because it seemed pointless and I didn't like getting out of bed earlier than I had to before work.

Isn't that the entire point of seeing the doctor

However, if it didn't work and you can affort it, I always recommend looking for another. I passed through many 'oh she's just a kid let's just play board games and see how she reacts' therapists to find my current one that goes 'yeah the bullying affected you pretty hard, board games are for your patience but now you need to actually talk'.

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I was diagnosed with severe depression a year and a bit ago, but I stopped seeing my doctor shortly after I began going because it seemed pointless and I didn't like getting out of bed earlier than I had to before work.

I stopped going to therapy because it reminded me that I can't hold a conversation with someone unless I pay them.

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I was diagnosed with severe depression a year and a bit ago, but I stopped seeing my doctor shortly after I began going because it seemed pointless and I didn't like getting out of bed earlier than I had to before work.

I stopped going to therapy because it reminded me that I can't hold a conversation with someone unless I pay them.

You could have payed me for our conversations all this time?

i worry a lot about what people think of me even if it doesnt matter and ill probably never see or interact with the person again

The reason i left DS a year ago wasn't because of growing out of it or lack of games, it was because i was addicted to Hen*ai and forgot about DS. I'm glad to be back and feeling much better now

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I was diagnosed with severe depression a year and a bit ago, but I stopped seeing my doctor shortly after I began going because it seemed pointless and I didn't like getting out of bed earlier than I had to before work.

I stopped going to therapy because it reminded me that I can't hold a conversation with someone unless I pay them.

You could have payed me for our conversations all this time?

This was a while ago. I can talk to people without having to pay them now.

teaching kids about pro LGBT messages is just as bas as religious people teaching kids anti lgbt messages

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teaching kids about pro LGBT messages is just as bas as religious people teaching kids anti lgbt messages

What’s so bad about teaching kids to not judge others based on who they prefer to smash

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teaching kids about pro LGBT messages is just as bas as religious people teaching kids anti lgbt messages

What’s so bad about teaching kids to not judge others based on who they prefer to smash

i would play smash with anyone tbh

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teaching kids about pro LGBT messages is just as bas as religious people teaching kids anti lgbt messages

What’s so bad about teaching kids to not judge others based on who they prefer to smash

i would play smash with anyone tbh

i wouldnt play it with a ganon main tho
i hate that f smash

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teaching kids about pro LGBT messages is just as bas as religious people teaching kids anti lgbt messages

Imma keep it real with you. this aint it, chief

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teaching kids about pro LGBT messages is just as bas as religious people teaching kids anti lgbt messages

Please say sike holy ****

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What’s so bad about teaching kids to not judge others based on who they prefer to smash

i would play smash with anyone tbh

i wouldnt play it with a ganon main tho
i hate that f smash

sess isnt in smash what are you talking about

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What’s so bad about teaching kids to not judge others based on who they prefer to smash

i would play smash with anyone tbh

i wouldnt play it with a ganon main tho
i hate that f smash

DORIYAH

dont listen to him he wishes he was a white girl

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teaching kids about pro LGBT messages is just as bas as religious people teaching kids anti lgbt messages

sP's thought process

dude don't post videos of me

Sorry for doxxing you Carm

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i would play smash with anyone tbh

i wouldnt play it with a ganon main tho
i hate that f smash

DORIYAH

spoiler for language I GUESS

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i worry a lot about what people think of me even if it doesnt matter and ill probably never see or interact with the person again

idk if this is any comfort but in the adult world most people will just forget about you/find you inoffensive unless you're acting like a complete ****ing crackhead in public

Drawdler, if Spyro is dead to you, why are you still posting about it?

I can understand needing a way to vent. I suggest you use the energy and passion you have for writing on something that is more important to you.

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Drawdler, if Spyro is dead to you, why are you still posting about it?

I can understand needing a way to vent. I suggest you use the energy and passion you have for writing on something that is more important to you.

I don't think that was her point, that post is more about Skylanders and its relation to Spyro than Spyro specifically.

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Yeah, uh, going off what Iceclaw said (which I definitely agree with) ... I don't see how the teaching of acceptance towards "different" people is as bad as the teaching of hatred towards "different" people. Not that LGTB people are that "different" anyway ... but what do I know.

^ilu bolt

Quote: Drawdler

Other than the actual Spyro guests, Skylanders content should never have been part of the Spyro wiki, and frankly I hope Aura24 regrets that in retrospect.

Don't put words in other people's mouths because you can't bring yourself to like something EVEN WITH its mistakes, Drawdler. Aura loves both Spyro and Skylanders and never stopped posting about how both fandoms can live together. I don't mind when someone adds Spyro content to the Skylanders wiki if it's relevant to the franchise, she doesn't mind if the opposite is made. It's a shame someone who used to be so great to talk to now deliberately wants people to be apart, all because Reignited isn't perfect enough.

I'm sorry if this is harsh. It's gonna hit a sore spot if you bring up the wiki, it's THE thankless job that Aura and I have and she has it doubled.

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I'm sorry if this is harsh. It's gonna hit a sore spot if you bring up the wiki, it's THE thankless job that Aura and I have and she has it doubled.

I, for one would like to thank you for working on the wiki. I've seen it change for the better over the years, and it's been a very useful resource.

i really feel like drawdler is intentionally burning bridges at this point

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I, for one would like to thank you for working on the wiki. I've seen it change for the better over the years, and it's been a very useful resource.

Thanks! I stick to the Skylanders Wiki while she does both, but I'm always looking at the Spyro Wiki to check for things I don't know about the main series. (and occasionally helping edit out some weird things that stayed there for years unnoticed)

I think the main problem with that would be the amount of stacked "you may be looking for... (Classic/LOS article)" and "full article at the Skylanders Wiki" templates which not everyone notices, but like, it's a fan wiki, not an official lorebook. As long as it's well organized and Aura organizes it VERY WELL, it's fine.

I mean honestly, I don't think the devs would keep a wiki of all of the Spyro things ever, so I'm glad there's one, even if it can be rough in some areas. The Spyro IP has always really been one that gets tossed around from dev to dev, so I would expect to lose information without a resource like a wiki.

Case in point - Skylanders Ring of Heroes actively uses information from our wiki. I mistakenly forgot to put a Nefarion picture and they redesigned him from the ground up; someone added notes about characters that got brought up in dialogue that are only conclusions we drew from the games/comics/books. It shouldn't happen but if Activision literally made them do an E3 event outside the building I don't think they're even allowed to see much of the official lore data, so we did help out a lot indirectly.

Just my two cents that no one asked for ... I don't see the problem with Skylanders being involved with the Spyro wiki or vise versa. I mean, the first instalment literally has Spyro's name in the title, and he is a pretty main character in the franchise. He's the main character in the Netflix series even.
Skylanders is not a Spyro franchise, of course, but the two will always be intertwined and I think it'd be silly to ignore that part of Spyro's history and pretend like the two are completely separate.
There are a few returning characters from the Spyro series as well. Auric is literally the Skylanders version of Moneybags, they just had to change the name for copyright reasons. But in the dev office they literally just referred to him as Moneybags (source Mike Stout).

(And yes, I'd like to thank Bifrost and Aura for their work on the wiki, and all the other volunteers. It's a wonderful resource, and I have spent a lot of time reading through the articles. Thank you.)