darkSpyro

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GIVE ME SPRING MAN

I'm down for having ARMS representation in Ultimate.

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I just want to ask something about the amiibos, because I think I'm misunderstanding something.

Are they going to be making brand new figures for every fighter in the game, or just for the newcomers and returns that haven't gotten one yet?

From what I understand, Newcomers and returning veterans who don't have figures yet are getting one. All of the veterans who have already been given figures for Smash 3DS/Wii U will work in Smash Bros. Ultimate.

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GIVE ME SPRING MAN

I'm down for having ARMS representation in Ultimate.

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I just want to ask something about the amiibos, because I think I'm misunderstanding something.

Are they going to be making brand new figures for every fighter in the game, or just for the newcomers and returns that haven't gotten one yet?

From what I understand, Newcomers and returning veterans who don't have figures yet are getting one. All of the veterans who have already been given figures for Smash 3DS/Wii U will work in Smash Bros. Ultimate.

okay...so there will only be figures for ones that haven't got one yet. Thanks for explaining.

I think I heard something about everyone who already had an Amiibo having their figures rereleased to allow people to get their hands on those rarer figures

Does that mean that already existing figures will get rereleased for those who missed out?

Edit: Ninja'd by Isaac who has answered my question.

ok isabelle's in

I will always want Chandelure in, even though the chance he gets in is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001 Percent

if isabelle is Fighter 68 i honestly just wanna know who Fighter 69 is

It's a good thing Isabelle wasn't 69, since I assume she prefers doggy style.

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It's a good thing Isabelle wasn't 69, since I assume she prefers doggy style.

HAHAHHAHAHA

Make Geno fighter 69

spring man fighter 69

uh okay let's go over our wanted fighters again

SPRING MAN
Incineroar
Geno
Skull Kid
a non swordfighter FE Character (hector, takumi, ephraim, fjorm, ect)
Black Knight as an Ike echo
Shadow as a Sonic echo

MOTHER****ING BANDANNA WADDLE DEE
Ken as a Ryu echo

thats it thats all i want

Shadow as Sonic Echo
Doom Slayer
Bandana Waddle Dee
Crash Bandicoot

Sorry for the double post, but there's a rumor going around that some new fighters were leaked from the Prima Guide. Again, take this with a grain of salt, but something to consider is that the person who originally posted it confirmed the Prima guide days before it was officially revealed. Below I've listed the supposed "leaked" stuff.

New fighters:
* Black Knight (Echo)
* Black Shadow (Echo)
* Dixie Kong
* Geno
* Incineroar
* Ken (Echo)
* Mach Rider
* Shadow (Echo)
* Steve
* Vault Boy

Stages:
* HELIOS One
* Mach Rider
* Overworld
* Pac-Maze
* Poke Floats 2

Assist Trophies:
* 9-Volt
* Captain Rainbow
* Champions of Hyrule
* Creeper
* Fawful
* Gee Bee
* Klonoa
* Nabbit
* Rabbids
* Shantae
* Solaire of Astora
* Tails
* Toadsworth
* Travis Touchdown
* Wii Remote Safety Instructor

Pokemon:
* Alolan Geodude
* Blaziken
* Cosmog
* Decidueye
* Diglett
* Fletchling
* Hitmonchan
* Lycanroc
* Necrozma
* Nihilego
* Skitty
* Solrock
* Tapu Fini
* Tapu Koko

Again, take this with an EXTREME grain of salt.

I believe the original post got taken down, but look up "Smash Prima Leak" and you'll find out some details.

I hope this is true, though. Why? Because VAULT BOY!

https://www.reddit.com/r/smash...ally_new_stage/


Major, likely genuine leak.

Quote: Chompy-King257

Sorry for the double post, but there's a rumor going around that some new fighters were leaked from the Prima Guide. Again, take this with a grain of salt, but something to consider is that the person who originally posted it confirmed the Prima guide days before it was officially revealed. Below I've listed the supposed "leaked" stuff.

New fighters:
* Black Knight (Echo)
* Black Shadow (Echo)
* Dixie Kong
* Geno
* Incineroar
* Ken (Echo)
* Mach Rider
* Shadow (Echo)
* Steve
* Vault Boy

Stages:
* HELIOS One
* Mach Rider
* Overworld
* Pac-Maze
* Poke Floats 2

Assist Trophies:
* 9-Volt
* Captain Rainbow
* Champions of Hyrule
* Creeper
* Fawful
* Gee Bee
* Klonoa
* Nabbit
* Rabbids
* Shantae
* Solaire of Astora
* Tails
* Toadsworth
* Travis Touchdown
* Wii Remote Safety Instructor

Pokemon:
* Alolan Geodude
* Blaziken
* Cosmog
* Decidueye
* Diglett
* Fletchling
* Hitmonchan
* Lycanroc
* Necrozma
* Nihilego
* Skitty
* Solrock
* Tapu Fini
* Tapu Koko

Again, take this with an EXTREME grain of salt.

I believe the original post got taken down, but look up "Smash Prima Leak" and you'll find out some details.

I hope this is true, though. Why? Because VAULT BOY!

I think this is far too much stuff to be true.

Yeah, that fighter number is a little bit more than I expected.

My list of characters I want, the top 3 are the ones I want the most.
I don't think most of them will make it in though but it's what I want.

Rayman

Banjo & Kazooie

Conker

Shadow

Crash

Spyro

Viridi

Dixie Kong

I shall call this, my Smash List.


All the fighters in a single post so I can quickly edit it on the who I could see me playing and who Im definitely not


The 3 Tiers are
Definite: Trying out day 1
Maybe: Not quite definite, but if they are fun enough in Ultimate I will play them
Just BAD: A tier reserved for only the true garbage of the bunch, not playing. Or otherwise not anywhere else on the list so they are dumped here.


Definite: Corrin, Robin, Pichu, Pokemon Trainer, Simon, Lucina
Maybe: Pikachu, Roy, Chrom, Inkling, Little Mac,
Just BAD: Everyone else

Ridley related.

Major, potentially real, Smask leak emerges. It's like it could be real, but take it with a grain of salt.


https://www.reddit.com/r/smash...it_roster_leak/


https://www.reddit.com/r/smash..._ongoing_chaos/

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I mean the rumor could certainly be true (not a leak unless it's confirmed). That said here's a pretty reasonable counterargument. (Spoiler warning, I guess?)

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I mean the rumor could certainly be true (not a leak unless it's confirmed). That said here's a pretty reasonable counterargument. (Spoiler warning, I guess?)

i mean if its a fake its a REALLY intricate fake
idk if any internet troll is that willing to put in ALL that effort for this, because it would require a serious amount of work
does anyone else remember how fake people thought the ESRB leak was, and that "shulk is just a photoshopped little mac"?

im gonna stay cautiously optimistic here

reminder to stay realistic.

a blackpill a day keeps the matt away.

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reminder to stay realistic.

a blackpill a day keeps the matt away.

i mean its not unrealistic
unrealistic would be a leak that said "MASTER CHIEF, GOKU, SPIDER-MAN AND SHANTAE!!!1!"
this one has actually popular and requested characters (like k. rool and ridley before them), 2 more echoes of existing fighters, and sakurai's love of bringing back an obscure retro rep (like game and watch, pit, and duck hunt before you know who), it really doesnt feel like its out of the realm of possibilities
remember we thought we were NEVER getting snake back, now not only did we get snake back, not only did we get literally every fighter in history back, we got 2 more 3rd party reps in simon and richter, and absolute fan favorites with k. rool and ridley
hell, even inkling and isabelle could have been high on that ballot for all we know
we even got ****ing CLOUD in smash 4, its proven sakurai is bat**** crazy in the best way, i dont think its that bizarre

also i have no idea what your last sentence even means

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reminder to stay realistic.

a blackpill a day keeps the matt away.

i mean its not unrealistic
unrealistic would be a leak that said "MASTER CHIEF, GOKU, SPIDER-MAN AND SHANTAE!!!1!"
this one has actually popular and requested characters (like k. rool and ridley before them), 2 more echoes of existing fighters, and sakurai's love of bringing back an obscure retro rep (like game and watch, pit, and duck hunt before you know who), it really doesnt feel like its out of the realm of possibilities
remember we thought we were NEVER getting snake back, now not only did we get snake back, not only did we get literally every fighter in history back, we got 2 more 3rd party reps in simon and richter, and absolute fan favorites with k. rool and ridley
hell, even inkling and isabelle could have been high on that ballot for all we know
we even got ****ing CLOUD in smash 4, its proven sakurai is bat**** crazy in the best way, i dont think its that bizarre

also i have no idea what your last sentence even means

He's either reffering to Skyfan, or Matpat

Which one, IDK, he complains about them too much to find a difference

As for the blackpill, I have no idea

He means Skyfan, who he hates. The blackpill is a metaphor for Pessimism. Zap's 'deep' quote is.


"Pessimism the key to avoid embarrassment".


Funnily enough, Skyfan came back and said "no hard feelings" against users, including Zap; trying to make amends. Zap instead responds how you'd expect him to.

For my fellow skeptics of this rumor (also check the comments b/c there's a quick correction)

Yes, I'd rather it not be true. I said it before and I'll say it again... I'd rather have more robust single-player options (like a story mode) than a ton of characters beyond the EVERYONE IS HERE! thing. But I know I'm in the minority so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I would like something like the Subspace Emissary to come back.

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For my fellow skeptics of this rumor (also check the comments b/c there's a quick correction)

Yes, I'd rather it not be true. I said it before and I'll say it again... I'd rather have more robust single-player options (like a story mode) than a ton of characters beyond the EVERYONE IS HERE! thing. But I know I'm in the minority so... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

GameXplain is literally sponsored by Nintendo, of course they’re going to deny it. They thought the ESRB one and the Ryu/Roy one in Smash 4 were fake and look what happened. “It’s blurry and the clouds are weird” isn’t an explanation, and this video is practically a joke.

Beyond that, if it's fake, which I'm seriously doubting, your'e telling me that someone went to all the trouble to:
1. Find the name of someone who genuinely works for a French printing company with ties to both Bandai Namco and Illumination
2. Create 7 new renders in a similar art style
3. Move around the already existing characters to show parts we had not seen before or completely recreate the entire banner and a blank version from scratch
4. Base it off a random 4chan text post from months ago or plant the seeds in advance
5. Include step by step instructions on how to turn it into a display
6. Make some "fake" credibility by including never before seen promotional images for an entirely unrelated film that comes out in around the same time frame as the game
7. Send the video to his friend who took screenshots or send the video to another phone he owns to send screenshots
8. AND intentionally poorly cover up the name of the guy who was in step 1?

If this is just some coincidence, it's just about the greatest one in history. If it's a leak, then whoever did it is a genius and fooled the entire internet with such an intricate and complex fake leak. I really doubt that it's fake because of the sheer effort that it would have taken to make it fake, plus nearly everyone directly involved either staying silent or saying "yeah it's fake" because of course they would, they don't want to confirm anything. Either way, it seems like there's a lot more evidence for it being real than it being fake.

Quote: Vespi

Quote: HIR

For my fellow skeptics of this rumor (also check the comments b/c there's a quick correction)

Yes, I'd rather it not be true. I said it before and I'll say it again... I'd rather have more robust single-player options (like a story mode) than a ton of characters beyond the EVERYONE IS HERE! thing. But I know I'm in the minority so... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

GameXplain is literally sponsored by Nintendo, of course they’re going to deny it. They thought the ESRB one and the Ryu/Roy one in Smash 4 were fake and look what happened. “It’s blurry and the clouds are weird” isn’t an explanation, and this video is practically a joke.

Beyond that, if it's fake, which I'm seriously doubting, your'e telling me that someone went to all the trouble to:
1. Find the name of someone who genuinely works for a French printing company with ties to both Bandai Namco and Illumination
2. Create 7 new renders in a similar art style
3. Move around the already existing characters to show parts we had not seen before or completely recreate the entire banner and a blank version from scratch
4. Base it off a random 4chan text post from months ago or plant the seeds in advance
5. Include step by step instructions on how to turn it into a display
6. Make some "fake" credibility by including never before seen promotional images for an entirely unrelated film that comes out in around the same time frame as the game
7. Send the video to his friend who took screenshots or send the video to another phone he owns to send screenshots
8. AND intentionally poorly cover up the name of the guy who was in step 1?

If this is just some coincidence, it's just about the greatest one in history. If it's a leak, then whoever did it is a genius and fooled the entire internet with such an intricate and complex fake leak. I really doubt that it's fake because of the sheer effort that it would have taken to make it fake, plus nearly everyone directly involved either staying silent or saying "yeah it's fake" because of course they would, they don't want to confirm anything. Either way, it seems like there's a lot more evidence for it being real than it being fake.

Rayman

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For my fellow skeptics of this rumor (also check the comments b/c there's a quick correction)

Yes, I'd rather it not be true. I said it before and I'll say it again... I'd rather have more robust single-player options (like a story mode) than a ton of characters beyond the EVERYONE IS HERE! thing. But I know I'm in the minority so... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

GameXplain is literally sponsored by Nintendo, of course they’re going to deny it. They thought the ESRB one and the Ryu/Roy one in Smash 4 were fake and look what happened. “It’s blurry and the clouds are weird” isn’t an explanation, and this video is practically a joke.

Beyond that, if it's fake, which I'm seriously doubting, your'e telling me that someone went to all the trouble to:
1. Find the name of someone who genuinely works for a French printing company with ties to both Bandai Namco and Illumination
2. Create 7 new renders in a similar art style
3. Move around the already existing characters to show parts we had not seen before or completely recreate the entire banner and a blank version from scratch
4. Base it off a random 4chan text post from months ago or plant the seeds in advance
5. Include step by step instructions on how to turn it into a display
6. Make some "fake" credibility by including never before seen promotional images for an entirely unrelated film that comes out in around the same time frame as the game
7. Send the video to his friend who took screenshots or send the video to another phone he owns to send screenshots
8. AND intentionally poorly cover up the name of the guy who was in step 1?

If this is just some coincidence, it's just about the greatest one in history. If it's a leak, then whoever did it is a genius and fooled the entire internet with such an intricate and complex fake leak. I really doubt that it's fake because of the sheer effort that it would have taken to make it fake, plus nearly everyone directly involved either staying silent or saying "yeah it's fake" because of course they would, they don't want to confirm anything. Either way, it seems like there's a lot more evidence for it being real than it being fake.

Rayman

Rayman was a crazy one, but did it have as much detail as this one?

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

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Quote: Vespi

GameXplain is literally sponsored by Nintendo, of course they’re going to deny it. They thought the ESRB one and the Ryu/Roy one in Smash 4 were fake and look what happened. “It’s blurry and the clouds are weird” isn’t an explanation, and this video is practically a joke.

Beyond that, if it's fake, which I'm seriously doubting, your'e telling me that someone went to all the trouble to:
1. Find the name of someone who genuinely works for a French printing company with ties to both Bandai Namco and Illumination
2. Create 7 new renders in a similar art style
3. Move around the already existing characters to show parts we had not seen before or completely recreate the entire banner and a blank version from scratch
4. Base it off a random 4chan text post from months ago or plant the seeds in advance
5. Include step by step instructions on how to turn it into a display
6. Make some "fake" credibility by including never before seen promotional images for an entirely unrelated film that comes out in around the same time frame as the game
7. Send the video to his friend who took screenshots or send the video to another phone he owns to send screenshots
8. AND intentionally poorly cover up the name of the guy who was in step 1?

If this is just some coincidence, it's just about the greatest one in history. If it's a leak, then whoever did it is a genius and fooled the entire internet with such an intricate and complex fake leak. I really doubt that it's fake because of the sheer effort that it would have taken to make it fake, plus nearly everyone directly involved either staying silent or saying "yeah it's fake" because of course they would, they don't want to confirm anything. Either way, it seems like there's a lot more evidence for it being real than it being fake.

Rayman

Rayman was a crazy one, but did it have as much detail as this one?

Alright then

Krakatoa

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Rayman

Rayman was a crazy one, but did it have as much detail as this one?

Alright then

Krakatoa

Again, that didn't have as much detail either AND that wasn't Smash.

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

Quote: King-Pen Krazy

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

Rayman was a crazy one, but did it have as much detail as this one?

Alright then

Krakatoa

Again, that didn't have as much detail either AND that wasn't Smash.

What Im trying to say is, people can go through a **** ton of work, just to make their leaks look real

Quote: King-Pen Krazy

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Alright then

Krakatoa

Again, that didn't have as much detail either AND that wasn't Smash.

What Im trying to say is, people can go through a **** ton of work, just to make their leaks look real

But this is an INSANE amount of work put into it. Much more than those.

Just so everyone's on the same page, this is the leaked document:

https://gematsu.com/wp-content...0-24-18_001.jpg

Here's the covered up name on the document exposed via digital editing:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqRtAQCUUAADHNZ.jpg:large

This is the person whose name is on the document:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bricard-446384173/

This is the company that he currently works for (it doesn't list its business partners, but it does state that it makes displays for both video games and cinema):

https://www.acp-plv.fr/fr/page...isations-3.html

And this is some evidence connecting the company to the document:

https://i.imgur.com/4RmsNAe.jpg


Oh, and there was also a post by a seemingly unrelated person (in English rather than in French) posted one month ago in this topic (warning: language):

https://boards.fireden.net/v/t...6364/#433419980

Here's a censored version of it:

I still feel it's fake but who knows, I think it might be real, we just have to wait and see. Each good argument in favor of it is met with an equally good one against it, so I can't really take a full stance on it, but I prefer to take the fake route to not get disappointed if it is/get surprised if it isn't.

#TeamReal

i just want it to be real to spite "insiders" on twitter

thank god steve isn't in

calm your tits people **** aint confirmed

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calm your tits people **** aint confirmed

Hardest fake to fake


Im going to say Grinch leak is real

Direct on Thursday!
Quote: Nintendo of America

Tune in 11/1 for roughly 40 minutes of new information in the final Super #SmashBrosUltimate #NintendoDirect before the game’s release, hosted by Director Masahiro Sakurai! The Direct will be followed by a post-show Nintendo Treehouse: Live presentation.

*Ike Voice* Prepare yourself!

Quote: Vespi

Direct on Thursday!
Quote: Nintendo of America

Tune in 11/1 for roughly 40 minutes of new information in the final Super #SmashBrosUltimate #NintendoDirect before the game’s release, hosted by Director Masahiro Sakurai! The Direct will be followed by a post-show Nintendo Treehouse: Live presentation.

*Ike Voice* Prepare yourself!

I'm probably gonna miss is because STAGE CREW!!!

Wow, the timing for the Direct is only good for Europeans. GG, Nintendo, you played yourselves.

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Wow, the timing for the Direct is only good for Europeans. GG, Nintendo, you played yourselves.

I don't see anything wrong with it

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Quote: HIR

Wow, the timing for the Direct is only good for Europeans. GG, Nintendo, you played yourselves.

I don't see anything wrong with it

It isn’t at a great time for people with school/work
I’m gonna have to miss the very tail end because I have to get to class ;~;