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Overwatch With a Side of Salt: This video is Awful
King-Pen Krazy Yellow Sparx Gems: 1907
#1 Posted: 15:53:11 10/12/2017 | Topic Creator
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Oh gawd, this vid is awful

I don't have the energy to rant right now, I'll do it later, but just, watch the video

He does make some good points, but it's mostly terrible
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Edited 1 time - Last edited at 07:00:03 11/12/2017 by CAV
TheToyNerd Gold Sparx Gems: 2137
#2 Posted: 17:00:18 10/12/2017
Why is it awful? He’s a bit burnt out on making Overwatch videos, so this is his way of saying that it’s over.

I will admit he’s a bit too bitter towards his audience and insults people who like Overwatch, too much. But hey, it’s his opinion. He makes the content he wants.
King-Pen Krazy Yellow Sparx Gems: 1907
#3 Posted: 17:44:55 10/12/2017 | Topic Creator
Quote: TheToyNerd
Why is it awful? He’s a bit burnt out on making Overwatch videos, so this is his way of saying that it’s over.

I will admit he’s a bit too bitter towards his audience and insults people who like Overwatch, too much. But hey, it’s his opinion. He makes the content he wants.



(Sorry If my response sounds bitter as well, but I just want to get my point across)

How it's awful doesn't have anything to do with him being burnt out with overwatch, It's about what he says in the video

Let's just do a simple things wrong with

-Makes it seem like every character has no personaility by giving them labels, like "scientist" or "gamer" which aren't personalities. It also doesn't help that you can put a label on anybody, does that mean they don't have a personality?
-Complains that Heroes and Maps take around 4 months to make. I feel like this guy doesn't know the process of making these heroes
a:make concept art for the character, choose which one is the best
b:make abilities for said hero that don't sound op or up on paper
c:make concept art for skins for said character, choose best ones
d:makes voice lines for character
e:find voice actor for that character
f:make a past, present, and future to slowly buildup over time
g:make model for character in game
h:make animations for characters in game
i:make character playable
j:insert voicelines and interactions
k:give character abilities
l:make sure abilities aren't up or op
m:fix any bugs and glitches character might have

I might have missed a few steps even

I'll get the rest of this later, because there is more
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DragonCamo Platinum Sparx Gems: 6710
#4 Posted: 18:39:52 10/12/2017
Quote: King-Pen Krazy
Quote: TheToyNerd
Why is it awful? He’s a bit burnt out on making Overwatch videos, so this is his way of saying that it’s over.

I will admit he’s a bit too bitter towards his audience and insults people who like Overwatch, too much. But hey, it’s his opinion. He makes the content he wants.



(Sorry If my response sounds bitter as well, but I just want to get my point across)

How it's awful doesn't have anything to do with him being burnt out with overwatch, It's about what he says in the video

Let's just do a simple things wrong with

-Makes it seem like every character has no personaility by giving them labels, like "scientist" or "gamer" which aren't personalities. It also doesn't help that you can put a label on anybody, does that mean they don't have a personality?
-Complains that Heroes and Maps take around 4 months to make. I feel like this guy doesn't know the process of making these heroes
a:make concept art for the character, choose which one is the best
b:make abilities for said hero that don't sound op or up on paper
c:make concept art for skins for said character, choose best ones
d:makes voice lines for character
e:find voice actor for that character
f:make a past, present, and future to slowly buildup over time
g:make model for character in game
h:make animations for characters in game
i:make character playable
j:insert voicelines and interactions
k:give character abilities
l:make sure abilities aren't up or op
m:fix any bugs and glitches character might have

I might have missed a few steps even

I'll get the rest of this later, because there is more



I used to love Overwatch. It was a game i played almost everyday when i first got it. The games were fun, the characters were interesting, and the casual feel of the game resonated with me.
I only ever play Overwatch if my friends are playing now. The game is tiring, the characters are either over or underpowered with no fix in sight, Blizzard is ignorant and not caring, and everything takes forever to be made.

The characters are cliche. I like them, but i can agree that McCree is just a typical cowboy, Solider is the gruff, traumitzed soldier character, Reaper is the edgy my backstory hurts guy, Dva is a typical "kawaii waifu material gamer just like us!!" Pharah is a ****ing boring personality and dry backstory

You may be right, but Overwatch doesn't release ANY CONSISTENT content other then skins for money. Only getting 4 heroes in this type of game is slow. Only getting 4 maps in this kind of game is slow. Letting bugs and glitches sit and doing nothing about them for as long as A YEAR, is slow. Not properly weighing checks and balances and ****ing up the game is amateur like. Not to mention, the designs are gettig worse.

Right now, all Blizzard seems to give a **** about is getting their ****ing Overwatch Pro Scene lifted up. They don't care about the casual player, all they are focusing on is the pro scene, when even those pro teams have dropped out BECAUSE Blizzard doesn't give a **** and doesn't fix their characters. Mercy is in a ****ing ****ty ass spot and Blizzard doesn't know what the **** to do.

If you like being yelled at by 10 year old children, or even 24 year old children, because you chose a character that's not part of the current meta, not viable, or god forbid is their character, you go on right ahead. If you like having characters change constantly because Blizzard is only able to buff a character to the moon or nerf them to the ground, then i'm happy for you.
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King-Pen Krazy Yellow Sparx Gems: 1907
#5 Posted: 19:00:27 10/12/2017 | Topic Creator
@DragonCamo
I respectfully disagree with your opinion, I continue to play Overwatch because I still find the game fun to play, sure, I might a break every once in a while, but that's with every game
What's funny is that I haven't encountered a Toxic player, leaver, or thrower yet. Not denying they exist, just talking about my personal experience(Although the toxic thing might be due to my lack of microphone)
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#6 Posted: 19:04:20 10/12/2017
Tracer is in the new Ready Player One trailer!
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Hey is there anything you want me to bring for the rest of the week and if so it’s so cool that you can do something and just do it like that
DragonCamo Platinum Sparx Gems: 6710
#7 Posted: 19:08:49 10/12/2017
Quote: King-Pen Krazy
@DragonCamo
I respectfully disagree with your opinion, I continue to play Overwatch because I still find the game fun to play, sure, I might a break every once in a while, but that's with every game
What's funny is that I haven't encountered a Toxic player, leaver, or thrower yet. Not denying they exist, just talking about my personal experience(Although the toxic thing might be due to my lack of microphone)



And that's fine. I'm happy you enjoy the game. I had a lot of fun playing the game for months after I got it.

The problem I'm having is that there isn't anything new or exciting happening. Every match I can almost guarantee to see the same characters. Every match, you can almost tell if you'll lose by looking at your own team comp. If you don't have X Hero and the team has Y hero, you're ****ed. Someone has to change. It was so annoying to see Genji, Tracer, and Winston on every goddamn attacking team, simply because this is what the "pros" do and so people copy it thinking they'll win. The characters become so niche, or broken or overpowered, that everyone on the team can be ****ing the best player ever, but if even ONE of you choose the wrong character, you've lost.
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somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 9574
#8 Posted: 21:58:04 10/12/2017
i like how scott complains about blizzard trying to fix toxicity but then complains about toxicity
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6430
#9 Posted: 06:48:26 11/12/2017
I find it contradictory how he initially claims that Blizzard is catering to whining casuals when nerfing characters like Roadhog or Mercy, but then later says all Blizzard cares about is the pro scene and so bases the game around viable pro picks, making casual games cancer.

Also Tracer was often seen in OWC and will probably feature heavily in OWL, so I don't get where "she's never picked" comes from.

Otherwise good on him for being able to say **** it and move onto whatever he wants to do. Nobody should be forced to make a specific type of content just because people keep pestering them to. JelloApocalypse had the same problem.

Quote: DragonCamo
Mercy is in a ****ing ****ty ass spot and Blizzard doesn't know what the **** to do.


Potentially biased but while I was initially salty at how they gave her cement shoes when rezzing, I think Mercy is about as balanced as she's gonna get in the current moment. The only thing you can do to nerf(or "fix") her is to remove rez as an ability entirely, in which case you're taking out a huge part of what makes her unique and not just a TF2 Medic with wings. And buffing her even slightly would just make the meta revolve around her again and I'm not up for hearing those complaints again.

At this point if anyone is still whining about Mercy being OP they need to learn to aim. If you have a problem with me zipping around the stage and rezzing people, stop me.
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DragonCamo Platinum Sparx Gems: 6710
#10 Posted: 00:49:04 12/12/2017
Quote: CAV
I find it contradictory how he initially claims that Blizzard is catering to whining casuals when nerfing characters like Roadhog or Mercy, but then later says all Blizzard cares about is the pro scene and so bases the game around viable pro picks, making casual games cancer.

Also Tracer was often seen in OWC and will probably feature heavily in OWL, so I don't get where "she's never picked" comes from.

Otherwise good on him for being able to say **** it and move onto whatever he wants to do. Nobody should be forced to make a specific type of content just because people keep pestering them to. JelloApocalypse had the same problem.

Quote: DragonCamo
Mercy is in a ****ing ****ty ass spot and Blizzard doesn't know what the **** to do.


Potentially biased but while I was initially salty at how they gave her cement shoes when rezzing, I think Mercy is about as balanced as she's gonna get in the current moment. The only thing you can do to nerf(or "fix") her is to remove rez as an ability entirely, in which case you're taking out a huge part of what makes her unique and not just a TF2 Medic with wings. And buffing her even slightly would just make the meta revolve around her again and I'm not up for hearing those complaints again.

At this point if anyone is still whining about Mercy being OP they need to learn to aim. If you have a problem with me zipping around the stage and rezzing people, stop me.


I'm conflicted on what was worse, Mercy potentially rezzing 4-5 teammates at one time every 3-4 minutes with her ult while typically only actually rezzing 2-3
or rezzing someone every 30 seconds.

My problem with people saying that Mercy's Resurrect Ult being "unfun to play against" it that yes, it is, but it's an Ultimate. What Ult ISN"T upsetting if you're the one that gets caught in it. Of course I was frustrated when Mercy swooped in and undid all the work we did. But, I was just as upset when a random Genji ulted and stopped our progress, or a Mei ulting, or Soldier, or dva, or Roadhog, or Winston, or Junkrat, or etcetctetct

Ultimates are game changing abilities, they're SUPPOSED to be powerful. TBH, when they first changed her, I felt it was more annoying for her to randomly rez someone every 30 seconds, then guess when her ult is ready and shoot her down. Not to mention, this made her a MUST PICK in the Diamond and below tiers. She has to ability to Rez people quicker, able to rez that single person to add to the team fight. Not having a mercy basically meant you were at a disadvantage. I don't ever remember being upset we didn't have a Mercy, because her Resurrect wasn't a common thing. Now, when we're in a teamfight of 4 v 5, i'm thinking "why don't we have a Mercy to add someone else to the fight"

Making her have cast time and slowing her movements basically killed her almost as much as Blizzard murdered Ana and kicked her corpse. A simple Lucio boop, a junkrat bomb, anything that has knockback will end your resurrect, and cause it to go back on the 30 sec cooldown even if you didn't use it, unlike literally every other ability. The slow in movement makes her an easy target to snip, shoot, anything to stop her from rezzing the team. The loud ass noise it does, makes damn sure you know where she is in order to hunt her down in those critical seconds. I would have liked to just try her out with the cast time instead of the movement slow, but nope, Blizzard doesn't seem to possess the basically experimental skills that 6th graders learn in Science class. Test one variable at a time, not 10 billion plus 3.
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