darkSpyro

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I love it when people get mad for no reason other than they can!

Wait till he ****s up, then you can protest.

This is about as surprising as me having to pay taxes this year... and every year for that matter.

**** I'm paying Donald Trump's salary. Wait, THAT MAKES ME HIS BOSS! YOU BETTER LISTEN TO ME, PRESIDENT CREAMSICLE! <.>

this is what happens when you give awards for just showing up.

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this is what happens when you give awards for just showing up.

Do you mean participation trophies?

Be mindful that that's a creation of the baby boomers, not the young folk protesting. We never wanted those trophies but the parents insisted everyone get one because they wanted to feel better about their kid.

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this is what happens when you give awards for just showing up.

Do you mean participation trophies?

Be mindful that that's a creation of the baby boomers, not the young folk protesting. We never wanted those trophies but the parents insisted everyone get one because they wanted to feel better about their kid.

oh believe me, I know.

I'm going to tell my kid(s) to never accept them. I don't want to raise entitled little ****s. >.>

Kids aren't entitled for getting participation trophies. Again, we don't want them.

From what I saw growing up and my own attitudes to it, participation trophies only further reinforce that you failed and are a failing failure but still get a pity point. That doesn't make a child feel better unless they really just like shiny things. It makes them feel just as bad, if not worse for the condescending attitude that comes with an "at least you tried lol".

You're younger than me. Have you ever gotten a participation trophy and felt glad when you did? I imagine you didn't. Very few people ever did.

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this is what happens when you give awards for just showing up.

Do you mean participation trophies?

Be mindful that that's a creation of the baby boomers, not the young folk protesting. We never wanted those trophies but the parents insisted everyone get one because they wanted to feel better about their kid.

oh believe me, I know.

I'm going to tell my kid(s) to never accept them. I don't want to raise entitled little ****s. >.>

I feel like instead of blaming participation medals for the ills of society, we should blame society (or more specifically the kids themselves) for not learning to open up to other ideas and have critical thinking skills. I could accept the protests immediately after the election because literally no one expected it, but this constant venom coming towards him for seemingly no good reason has got to stop. Let him **** up first, then you can bash him.

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Kids aren't entitled for getting participation trophies. Again, we don't want them.

From what I saw growing up and my own attitudes to it, participation trophies only further reinforce that you failed and are a failing failure but still get a pity point. That doesn't make a child feel better unless they really just like shiny things. It makes them feel just as bad, if not worse for the condescending attitude that comes with an "at least you tried lol".

You're younger than me. Have you ever gotten a participation trophy and felt glad when you did? I imagine you didn't. Very few people ever did.

i know people who've cried over not getting them.

as me for me personally, i was always apathetic towards them. *shrugs*

anyways, i'm just trying to figure out why we have so many entitled people on our hands. participation awards aren't the answer. perhaps it was telling children throughout the 90's and the 2000's that their special no matter what? i don't know.

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Kids aren't entitled for getting participation trophies. Again, we don't want them.

From what I saw growing up and my own attitudes to it, participation trophies only further reinforce that you failed and are a failing failure but still get a pity point. That doesn't make a child feel better unless they really just like shiny things. It makes them feel just as bad, if not worse for the condescending attitude that comes with an "at least you tried lol".

You're younger than me. Have you ever gotten a participation trophy and felt glad when you did? I imagine you didn't. Very few people ever did.

i know people who've cried over not getting them.

as me for me personally, i was always apathetic towards them. *shrugs*

anyways, i'm just trying to figure out why we have so many entitled people on our hands. participation awards aren't the answer. perhaps it was telling children throughout the 90's and the 2000's that their special no matter what? i don't know.

How about none of those things and it's only because people are close-minded and not willing to CRITICALLY THINK!

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Kids aren't entitled for getting participation trophies. Again, we don't want them.

From what I saw growing up and my own attitudes to it, participation trophies only further reinforce that you failed and are a failing failure but still get a pity point. That doesn't make a child feel better unless they really just like shiny things. It makes them feel just as bad, if not worse for the condescending attitude that comes with an "at least you tried lol".

You're younger than me. Have you ever gotten a participation trophy and felt glad when you did? I imagine you didn't. Very few people ever did.

i know people who've cried over not getting them.

as me for me personally, i was always apathetic towards them. *shrugs*

anyways, i'm just trying to figure out why we have so many entitled people on our hands. participation awards aren't the answer. perhaps it was telling children throughout the 90's and the 2000's that their special no matter what? i don't know.

How about none of those things and it's only because people are close-minded and not willing to CRITICALLY THINK!

true.

My form of protest was playing Virginia and Gone Home. Two small-budget walking sims made by a few individuals that were unusual and revolved around women.

Though that's not really as much of a protest as it was a means to keep me mentally and physically sound and a good quick break from social media.

If I listen to ones I know in real life to watch the inauguration live, I would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb. None of that would be good for my health so I had actually a more productive day.

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My form of protest was playing Virginia and Gone Home. Two small-budget walking sims made by a few individuals that were unusual and revolved around women.

Though that's not really as much of a protest as it was a means to keep me mentally and physically sound and a good quick break from social media.

If I listen to ones I know in real life to watch the inauguration live, I would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb. None of that would be good for my health so I had actually a more productive day.

bahahaha trump would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb at ur terrible taste in video games

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My form of protest was playing Virginia and Gone Home. Two small-budget walking sims made by a few individuals that were unusual and revolved around women.

Though that's not really as much of a protest as it was a means to keep me mentally and physically sound and a good quick break from social media.

If I listen to ones I know in real life to watch the inauguration live, I would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb. None of that would be good for my health so I had actually a more productive day.

bahahaha trump would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb at ur terrible taste in video games

Ok, I know you're just joking, but c'mon! That's just unnecessary... Don't need to be a dick.

Actually, if his twitter is any indication, he probably would rage on it if a big name tweeted something along those lines.

Things are pretty inflammatory these days tho. Aside from the reddit issue yesterday, some trump supporters went after Eric Rogers and some other actors/producers in some crusade against the "leftist hollywood".
Whatever the side, whatever your side, whatever the place. You will need popcorn for this drama.

Trump isn't going to ruin America

America will attempt to ruin Trump, but destroy America in the process.


I am scared Trump is going to take away rights, including same gender marriage.

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My form of protest was playing Virginia and Gone Home. Two small-budget walking sims made by a few individuals that were unusual and revolved around women.

Though that's not really as much of a protest as it was a means to keep me mentally and physically sound and a good quick break from social media.

If I listen to ones I know in real life to watch the inauguration live, I would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb. None of that would be good for my health so I had actually a more productive day.

bahahaha trump would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb at ur terrible taste in video games

Ok, I know you're just joking, but c'mon! That's just unnecessary... Don't need to be a dick.

its not my fault he has such bad taste in video games

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i know people who've cried over not getting them.

as me for me personally, i was always apathetic towards them. *shrugs*

anyways, i'm just trying to figure out why we have so many entitled people on our hands. participation awards aren't the answer. perhaps it was telling children throughout the 90's and the 2000's that their special no matter what? i don't know.

This surprises me.

I'm questioning here in what context you feel our generation to be entitled. Many complaints we have that come off as "entitled" are criticisms of the generation before us who have to this point sucked dry the economy and benefits provided to us by The Greatest Generation, and then turn around to call us lazy and entitled.

For an example, saying we're entitled and demanding of a free education and too picky to bother flipping burgers like they did when they went to college. Ignoring how college was significantly cheaper 50 years ago than it is today, where flipping burgers for a single job absolutely will not cover the costs of many degrees out there.

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My form of protest was playing Virginia and Gone Home. Two small-budget walking sims made by a few individuals that were unusual and revolved around women.

Though that's not really as much of a protest as it was a means to keep me mentally and physically sound and a good quick break from social media.

If I listen to ones I know in real life to watch the inauguration live, I would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb. None of that would be good for my health so I had actually a more productive day.

bahahaha trump would be cringing, angry, horrified, stressed, miserable and numb at ur terrible taste in video games

Ok, I know you're just joking, but c'mon! That's just unnecessary... Don't need to be a dick.

You're falling into a trap. Stop.

CAV makes a great point. Plus the older generations are hypocrites. Just look at Rent, which is about entitled Generation X douchebags thinking they don't need to pay rent because they're artists and how they suffer while suger-coating the AIDS crisis and glorifying heroin usage.

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This is about as surprising as me having to pay taxes this year... and every year for that matter.

**** I'm paying Donald Trump's salary. Wait, THAT MAKES ME HIS BOSS! YOU BETTER LISTEN TO ME, PRESIDENT CREAMSICLE! <.>

you do know that his salary is $1 annually because he literally has to take some form money

he chose it to be that way too, big boy barack was making 400k a year but donald's rich so he's letting that 399.99k go somewhere else.

as to where? i dunno really. probably wall bricjks

Participation awards are a stereotype and an inaccurate one at that. Also, are you seriously trying to attribute "entitled" people to the fact that we tell kids that they're special? Everyone deserves to be told that they're special, that doesn't make someone entitled. I mean, even something like Veggietales always prefaces with the message that God made you special and he loves you very much.

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CAV makes a great point. Plus the older generations are hypocrites. Just look at Rent, which is about entitled Generation X douchebags thinking they don't need to pay rent because they're artists and how they suffer while suger-coating the AIDS crisis and glorifying heroin usage.

did you

just diss

rent

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Kids aren't entitled for getting participation trophies. Again, we don't want them.

From what I saw growing up and my own attitudes to it, participation trophies only further reinforce that you failed and are a failing failure but still get a pity point. That doesn't make a child feel better unless they really just like shiny things. It makes them feel just as bad, if not worse for the condescending attitude that comes with an "at least you tried lol".

You're younger than me. Have you ever gotten a participation trophy and felt glad when you did? I imagine you didn't. Very few people ever did.

i know people who've cried over not getting them.

as me for me personally, i was always apathetic towards them. *shrugs*

anyways, i'm just trying to figure out why we have so many entitled people on our hands. participation awards aren't the answer. perhaps it was telling children throughout the 90's and the 2000's that their special no matter what? i don't know.

Yeah, that may just be your experience. I, on the other hand, have seen participation trophies lead to a nasty lawsuit and litigation against the hometown school district.



Also, I like how people are getting worried about Trump in this topic. You guys are fools. The real threat is Mike Pence who is, as we speak, preparing his Frank Underwood, House of Cards-style scheme to make Trump screw up so horrendously he has to resign in shame.

You think I'm joking, but Pence has had this "I can't wait to screw over Trump and take the presidency for myself" look about him since Trump named him to be the running mate. >.>

The let's kill Mike Pence first.

Isn't his cabinet full of equally worrisome people though? You guys are already in a bad situation, don't be like us in Brazil where removing the VP will lead to an even worse outcome.

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Isn't his cabinet full of equally worrisome people though? You guys are already in a bad situation, don't be like us in Brazil where removing the VP will lead to an even worse outcome.

Well, yes and no. Yes, they're all bad, but I think 1 or 2 have actually been confirmed. If Congress actually did its job, the remaining picks would be shooed out of Washington by the Senate and it would be back to the drawing board for Trump. But that won't happen, because the Republican Party is just as scared of him as everyone else. <.<

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CAV makes a great point. Plus the older generations are hypocrites. Just look at Rent, which is about entitled Generation X douchebags thinking they don't need to pay rent because they're artists and how they suffer while suger-coating the AIDS crisis and glorifying heroin usage.

I was referring entirely to the Baby Boomers in my post. I know little about what Gen X is really doing besides existing and being the middle child in this spat.

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Also, I like how people are getting worried about Trump in this topic. You guys are fools. The real threat is Mike Pence who is, as we speak, preparing his Frank Underwood, House of Cards-style scheme to make Trump screw up so horrendously he has to resign in shame.

You think I'm joking, but Pence has had this "I can't wait to screw over Trump and take the presidency for myself" look about him since Trump named him to be the running mate. >.>

I just imagine Pence influencing and manipulating the scene similar to how Cheney operated with Bush.

Better point. It's much easier to make fun of Baby Boomers because the words are there. You just gotta put emphasis on in both.



Maybe that's not fair because some of these boomers are great actors of our time but they won't refer to them as the good boomers just like how the alt-right are basically the evil version of millennials.

If I count as Gen X then I'd say we're not much better off than millennials, if at all. My dad had a stable full time job, a house, and five kids by the time he was my age. Whereas I'm practically homeless, can barely find temp work, and only have an old car and about 500 bucks to my name.

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If I count as Gen X then I'd say we're not much better off than millennials, if at all. My dad had a stable full time job, a house, and five kids by the time he was my age. Whereas I'm practically homeless, can barely find temp work, and only have an old car and about 500 bucks to my name.

Is the muffin business tough these days?

Everyone's all into crescent rolls and toaster strudels nowadays. Pillsbury has the pastry market in a stranglehold.

Anti trump protesters should just give up at this point

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Anti trump protesters should just give up at this point

this guy, right here


he gets it

Yeah, let's give up and let the sexist guy make sure climate change is unstoppable for real. Wait what?

Apathy is just giving people the ok for bad things to happen. Agreeing or not agreeing, if you truly believe something must be stopped or not, you need to act on it instead of just letting it happen. Applies to anything.

Trump's first executive orders are to destroy North Dakota homes and environments as well women's rights to abortion.

Not that Trump cares about women getting pregnant anyway, even if it's against their own will from rape, causing psychological damage as well as potentially killing the both the mother and baby. Abortions became a thing BECAUSE of these situations.


Plus Trump is reinforcing attack against Native Americans and taken their homes as if what settlers didn't bring enough suffering.

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Yeah, let's give up and let the sexist guy make sure climate change is unstoppable for real. Wait what?

Apathy is just giving people the ok for bad things to happen. Agreeing or not agreeing, if you truly believe something must be stopped or not, you need to act on it instead of just letting it happen. Applies to anything.

lets

continue

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allow

riots


peacefully protesting is one thing, but when riots are what is considered "peaceful protests" thats where you draw the line and say "this needs to ****ing stop before people get hurt" thats why they need to calm the **** down.

if they want to make signs and march, then thats fine. But breaking business's windows, breaking into cars? Setting your country's flag on fire (while not illegal, its disrespectful to the country that allows you to protest your leader) that isn't okay, and it never will be.

im sorry if you didn't mean the rioters, but i just have to say that this **** isn't ****ing okay,

"You cannot drive out darkness with more darkness, only light can do that." -Martin Luther King.

Well yeah, peaceful protests. I was responding to skylandersspyro and ZapNorris just plain saying that Anti-Trump supporters should give up altogether. By rioting you get the exact opposite of what you 'wanted"(since if you're breaking stores and harming other people chances are you're there to stir up ****) since you're acting immature.

Except

let's

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normalise

Trump

or

bigoted

violence.

But punching a White Supremacist in the face is A-Ok, right?

Yes because of what they do.

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Yes because of what they do.

while im actually rather amused that he got punched in the face (he deserved it imo) it does beg the question, how much violence is actually okay? would people still be cheering if something worse happened?

Violence is a crazy slippery slope. While some people definately abuse the term, when you go 'it's ok to physically harm X because they're wrong' it's SUPER easy to abuse and escalate because of the crowd's feelings. Vigilantism for the very extreme, or people stoning suspects that aren't even guilty of whatever the crowd believes they did.

So, maybe the ****ty person deserves it, but having a random guy on the street decide never ends well in the long run. Reddit and Tumblr have proven far too many times that you can get a group of crazy people riled up and they'll do horrible things without the victim being at fault. And far too often, which is the big issue here.

I think I'll stop now, this is reminding me of philosophy discussion time at high school where I said 2 well-thought out sentences and jumped the gun with a third really stupid one because it's me.

There's violence on both sides, and it's not okay for anyone to do.

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There's violence on both sides, and it's not okay for anyone to do.

Even so, if those on the left decided to do nothing, ones on the right will feel free to hurt and kill anyone they want simply for looking different. Even if the left were protesting peacefully consistently, Trump will say they're committing violence and his supporters would believe him.

If a child is forced to come out as gay and the parents respond by torturing the child into becoming straight, are we no better if we stop the parents?

We Irish didn't get our independence by doing nothing. The British Empire believed itself to above reason and we had to draw the first blood. Though the IRB lost the Easter Rising, it sparked more Irish to stand up against the British and the British responded poorly with violence, which forced them to allow the Irish to govern Ireland. People like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. and their philosophies were not a thing yet so what we did was technically evil but it was a necessary evil. Before you say anything, the so-called IRA during The Troubles do not reflect the original IRA/IRB, which consisted of many intellectuals who were willing to risk their positions for Irish independence while the ones of The Troubles were uneducated brutes.

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There's violence on both sides, and it's not okay for anyone to do.

Even so, if those on the left decided to do nothing, ones on the right will feel free to hurt and kill anyone they want simply for looking different. Even if the left were protesting peacefully consistently, Trump will say they're committing violence and his supporters would believe him.

If a child is forced to come out as gay and the parents respond by torturing the child into becoming straight, are we no better if we stop the parents?

We Irish didn't get our independence by doing nothing. The British Empire believed itself to above reason and we had to draw the first blood. Though the IRB lost the Easter Rising, it sparked more Irish to stand up against the British and the British responded poorly with violence, which forced them to allow the Irish to govern Ireland. People like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. and their philosophies were not a thing yet so what we did was technically evil but it was a necessary evil. Before you say anything, the so-called IRA during The Troubles do not reflect the original IRA/IRB, which consisted of many intellectuals who were willing to risk their positions for Irish independence while the ones of The Troubles were uneducated brutes.

so you're perfectly okay with rioting, but the minute that someone does it, and doesn't agree with you, you're not okay with it?

is that what i'm getting at here?

That depends? Does the riot involve invading peoples' homes, dragging them out of their beds, beating them, raping them, killing their loved ones, destroying everything they own, publicly humiliating them and sending them to concentration camps to do slave labor before being sent into gas chambers to die?

How about riots in response to people not wanting to be slaves and wishing to live as equals?

Because those kind of riots are not okay. Riot for independence and freedom, civil rights are okay but not riots for oppression, slavery or genocide. Sorry if I don't agree with the latter. I just have a thing called common sense, morality and doing the right thing.

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Even so, if those on the left decided to do nothing, ones on the right will feel free to hurt and kill anyone they want simply for looking different. Even if the left were protesting peacefully consistently, Trump will say they're committing violence and his supporters would believe him.

If a child is forced to come out as gay and the parents respond by torturing the child into becoming straight, are we no better if we stop the parents?

We Irish didn't get our independence by doing nothing. The British Empire believed itself to above reason and we had to draw the first blood. Though the IRB lost the Easter Rising, it sparked more Irish to stand up against the British and the British responded poorly with violence, which forced them to allow the Irish to govern Ireland. People like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. and their philosophies were not a thing yet so what we did was technically evil but it was a necessary evil. Before you say anything, the so-called IRA during The Troubles do not reflect the original IRA/IRB, which consisted of many intellectuals who were willing to risk their positions for Irish independence while the ones of The Troubles were uneducated brutes.

so you're perfectly okay with rioting, but the minute that someone does it, and doesn't agree with you, you're not okay with it?

is that what i'm getting at here?

That depends? Does the riot involve invading peoples' homes, dragging them out of their beds, beating them, raping them, killing their loved ones, destroying everything they own, publicly humiliating them and sending them to concentration camps to do slave labor before being sent into gas chambers to die?

How about riots in response to people not wanting to be slaves and wishing to live as equals?

Because those kind of riots are not okay. Riot for independence and freedom, civil rights are okay but not riots for oppression, slavery or genocide. Sorry if I don't agree with the latter. I just have a thing called common sense, morality and doing the right thing.

okay im done taking you seriously.

everybody claims that they want justice

all they really want is revenge

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Yes because of what they do.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

EDIT: Also President Trump may not be normal but it is the current standard as, like it or not, he is the President of the United States. It's not normal but it's what we currently have and that's something to be dealt with as we go along.
And while it often does seem like a bigger point is made through violence than through peaceful protest, we must not lose sight of our morals. Fighting fire with fire does not make us any better than those we fight against. We'll all end up being seen as radicals to not be taken seriously in the end if that's what you choose to stoop down to.