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Russia does the Hunger Games for real in Siberia but no guns are allowed
gillgrunt987 Diamond Sparx Gems: 8254
#1 Posted: 21:37:18 17/12/2016 | Topic Creator
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/...uns-are-allowed
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#2 Posted: 21:40:31 17/12/2016
wat..
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#3 Posted: 22:11:17 17/12/2016
"If they're in trouble or want to leave the show, they can hit a panic button on a satellite phone and be rescued"
Wimp button smilie, also the "if they are in trouble" part makes me feel like the button won't work for that purpose

Contestant: presses button because she is under attack by another contestant she knows she can't beat
Contestant 2: kills the wimp

If you're in trouble with another contestant attacking you, don't press wimp button.

tbh though, I want to watch this and I hope whoever I route for doesn't die on my birthday (July 15th)
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#4 Posted: 22:24:41 17/12/2016
I'm sorry, but that is disgusting. Didn't we learn anything from the series??
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#5 Posted: 22:31:48 17/12/2016
Quote: Waaksian
I'm sorry, but that is disgusting. Didn't we learn anything from the series??


You could apply that to most people repeating history

"You know, parading around with your "unbeatable army/power/weapon" is going to make a lot of enemies"
"Nah, it's unbeatable!Everyone will be afraid of it forever!"

Cue war.
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#6 Posted: 22:37:52 17/12/2016
Quote: Waaksian
I'm sorry, but that is disgusting. Didn't we learn anything from the series??

You're just salty because Russia came up with it and you didn't like the hunger games.

Honestly I wanna watch this because it sounds exciting
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Takadox360 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3035
#7 Posted: 22:48:33 17/12/2016
Wait...people will be able to see someone get murdered or raped on TV?

Russia pls
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Windumup Emerald Sparx Gems: 3217
#8 Posted: 22:58:12 17/12/2016
I hope the portable camera provided will allow them to take videos of their experience and upload them on youtube. (but doubt they will have internet access or cameras that can do that)
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Waaksian Emerald Sparx Gems: 4906
#9 Posted: 23:09:03 17/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Waaksian
I'm sorry, but that is disgusting. Didn't we learn anything from the series??

You're just salty because Russia came up with it and you didn't like the hunger games.

Honestly I wanna watch this because it sounds exciting



Believe me, I loved reading the Hunger Games. I loved the message that it had.

I just don't understand why people would derive entertainment from real, living people getting raped and murdered on live TV. Or why anyone would die and waste their life because they decided to play part in such a thing.
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#10 Posted: 23:13:55 17/12/2016
This is disgusting. Yet another one of Putin's desires to become as bad as Vlad the Impaler, Ivan the Terrible and Josef Stalin except now there's a moron ready to become the 45th president to take advantage of.
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#11 Posted: 23:19:46 17/12/2016
This sounds barbaric.

Quote: Takadox360
Wait...people will be able to see someone get murdered or raped on TV?

Russia pls


I was gonna post something like this.
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#12 Posted: 23:38:18 17/12/2016
I'm incredibly sad that you all actually believe this is real
Bryman04 Gold Sparx Gems: 2116
#13 Posted: 23:55:53 17/12/2016
Quote: Bumblebunnii
I'm incredibly sad that you all actually believe this is real


So this is part of the fake news media thing I've heard about? That conclusion actually sounds reasonable.
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#14 Posted: 23:57:34 17/12/2016
Quote: Bryman04
Quote: Bumblebunnii
I'm incredibly sad that you all actually believe this is real


So this is part of the fake news media thing I've heard about? That conclusion actually sounds reasonable.



Fake news online has always been a thing. I just highly doubt that rape and murder would just casually be allowed to go on for entertainment. Especially in Russia.
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#15 Posted: 01:22:27 18/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Waaksian
I'm sorry, but that is disgusting. Didn't we learn anything from the series??

You're just salty because Russia came up with it and you didn't like the hunger games.

Honestly I wanna watch this because it sounds exciting


Why the **** would you want to see that?
Windumup Emerald Sparx Gems: 3217
#16 Posted: 03:04:42 18/12/2016
Quote: willspyro
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Waaksian
I'm sorry, but that is disgusting. Didn't we learn anything from the series??

You're just salty because Russia came up with it and you didn't like the hunger games.

Honestly I wanna watch this because it sounds exciting


Why the **** would you want to see that?

Because I want to see how it turns out.

At least the contestants don't HAVE to kill each other, they just get more money if there is less people tying at the end.
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#17 Posted: 03:42:28 18/12/2016
Even if it's fake, this is completely horrendous. just another reason to hate Russia
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#18 Posted: 04:35:07 18/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: willspyro
Quote: Windumup

You're just salty because Russia came up with it and you didn't like the hunger games.

Honestly I wanna watch this because it sounds exciting


Why the **** would you want to see that?

Because I want to see how it turns out.

At least the contestants don't HAVE to kill each other, they just get more money if there is less people tying at the end.



Ok whether this story is fake or not, even if they don't have to, you do realize that it will happen, right? Even then, if not from people killing each other, people WILL die. Whether from hypothermia, starvation, or other means, it will happen. And I don't mean like on TV when someone dies and it's scripted and fake, I mean an actual human life being brought to an end. Are you really 100% ok with watching someone die and have no issues with it at all? Because I do guarantee that if this is actually happening, at least 1 will die live on video for the world to see.
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Windumup Emerald Sparx Gems: 3217
#19 Posted: 04:48:42 18/12/2016
Quote: Seiki
Quote: Windumup
Quote: willspyro


Why the **** would you want to see that?

Because I want to see how it turns out.

At least the contestants don't HAVE to kill each other, they just get more money if there is less people tying at the end.



Ok whether this story is fake or not, even if they don't have to, you do realize that it will happen, right? Even then, if not from people killing each other, people WILL die. Whether from hypothermia, starvation, or other means, it will happen. And I don't mean like on TV when someone dies and it's scripted and fake, I mean an actual human life being brought to an end. Are you really 100% ok with watching someone die and have no issues with it at all? Because I do guarantee that if this is actually happening, at least 1 will die live on video for the world to see.


That IS true, someone will die. And it will be sad, but at least I will be relieved that the person I am rooting for isn't dead yet (Until they are, in which case tears will fall even harder)
But they risked their own life for cash, soooooo
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#20 Posted: 05:53:06 18/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Seiki
Quote: Windumup

Because I want to see how it turns out.

At least the contestants don't HAVE to kill each other, they just get more money if there is less people tying at the end.



Ok whether this story is fake or not, even if they don't have to, you do realize that it will happen, right? Even then, if not from people killing each other, people WILL die. Whether from hypothermia, starvation, or other means, it will happen. And I don't mean like on TV when someone dies and it's scripted and fake, I mean an actual human life being brought to an end. Are you really 100% ok with watching someone die and have no issues with it at all? Because I do guarantee that if this is actually happening, at least 1 will die live on video for the world to see.


That IS true, someone will die. And it will be sad, but at least I will be relieved that the person I am rooting for isn't dead yet (Until they are, in which case tears will fall even harder)
But they risked their own life for cash, soooooo


So you are saying that you are 100% mentally and emotionally prepared to watch someone die? Because there's a difference between crying over hearing that someone has and actually watching it happen.

And that makes it ok??? Though at least they're given a panic button or "wimp button" as you put it. Which yeah, being afraid to die and being on the brink of freezing to death and wanting to live does not make someone a wimp or coward. Making fun of someone who is seriously about to die and wants to live just makes you an asshole. Which if this does happen, your earlier posts make me think that you would make fun of people for using it.
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#21 Posted: 06:12:26 18/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Seiki
Quote: Windumup

Because I want to see how it turns out.

At least the contestants don't HAVE to kill each other, they just get more money if there is less people tying at the end.



Ok whether this story is fake or not, even if they don't have to, you do realize that it will happen, right? Even then, if not from people killing each other, people WILL die. Whether from hypothermia, starvation, or other means, it will happen. And I don't mean like on TV when someone dies and it's scripted and fake, I mean an actual human life being brought to an end. Are you really 100% ok with watching someone die and have no issues with it at all? Because I do guarantee that if this is actually happening, at least 1 will die live on video for the world to see.


That IS true, someone will die. And it will be sad, but at least I will be relieved that the person I am rooting for isn't dead yet (Until they are, in which case tears will fall even harder)
But they risked their own life for cash, soooooo


That's ****ed up that you're willing to see someone actually starve, freeze, or get killed in real life. Even if this is fake or not, it's still very ****ed up.
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#22 Posted: 08:41:05 18/12/2016
Quote: Bumblebunnii
Quote: Bryman04
Quote: Bumblebunnii
I'm incredibly sad that you all actually believe this is real


So this is part of the fake news media thing I've heard about? That conclusion actually sounds reasonable.



Fake news online has always been a thing. I just highly doubt that rape and murder would just casually be allowed to go on for entertainment. Especially in Russia.


To be fair though, the article specified that it's not "allowed" by the government and that the contestants will be subject to criminal charges if they are caught killing or raping anyone.
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#23 Posted: 10:31:17 18/12/2016
Guys they are risking their own life, FOR MONEY.

smilie
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#24 Posted: 10:39:00 18/12/2016
Quote: willspyro
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Seiki



Ok whether this story is fake or not, even if they don't have to, you do realize that it will happen, right? Even then, if not from people killing each other, people WILL die. Whether from hypothermia, starvation, or other means, it will happen. And I don't mean like on TV when someone dies and it's scripted and fake, I mean an actual human life being brought to an end. Are you really 100% ok with watching someone die and have no issues with it at all? Because I do guarantee that if this is actually happening, at least 1 will die live on video for the world to see.


That IS true, someone will die. And it will be sad, but at least I will be relieved that the person I am rooting for isn't dead yet (Until they are, in which case tears will fall even harder)
But they risked their own life for cash, soooooo


That's ****ed up that you're willing to see someone actually starve, freeze, or get killed in real life. Even if this is fake or not, it's still very ****ed up.


If its fake then its just like watching a movie, besides they're the ones that decided to do that. I'm sure they can pull out whenever they want.
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#25 Posted: 11:51:14 18/12/2016
To be fair, Windumup at least rationalizes why it'd be an interesting watch. Just like Big Brother, others just watch to see a ruckus but get upset when someone gets hurt e_e

And hey, wpd (not safe for life) is a thing, and it gets significant traffic. People do have actual interest on real life gore.
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#26 Posted: 20:27:03 18/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Guys they are risking their own life, FOR MONEY.

smilie


That doesn't make it ok. That's a different issue in itself which is made a tad better by having the panic button. The main issue is that you're ok with watching people die and seem like you would make fun of them for using the panic button.

Quote: SuperSpyroFan55
Quote: willspyro
Quote: Windumup


That IS true, someone will die. And it will be sad, but at least I will be relieved that the person I am rooting for isn't dead yet (Until they are, in which case tears will fall even harder)
But they risked their own life for cash, soooooo


That's ****ed up that you're willing to see someone actually starve, freeze, or get killed in real life. Even if this is fake or not, it's still very ****ed up.


If its fake then its just like watching a movie, besides they're the ones that decided to do that. I'm sure they can pull out whenever they want.



When we mention about it being fake, we're referring to Bumblebunni's post saying the article is likely fake and that Russia might not actually be doing this. They can drop out whenever, the article mentions a panic button.
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#27 Posted: 21:05:53 18/12/2016
Quote: Seiki
Quote: Windumup
Guys they are risking their own life, FOR MONEY.

smilie


That doesn't make it ok. That's a different issue in itself which is made a tad better by having the panic button. The main issue is that you're ok with watching people die and seem like you would make fun of them for using the panic button.

Quote: SuperSpyroFan55
Quote: willspyro


That's ****ed up that you're willing to see someone actually starve, freeze, or get killed in real life. Even if this is fake or not, it's still very ****ed up.


If its fake then its just like watching a movie, besides they're the ones that decided to do that. I'm sure they can pull out whenever they want.



When we mention about it being fake, we're referring to Bumblebunni's post saying the article is likely fake and that Russia might not actually be doing this. They can drop out whenever, the article mentions a panic button.



If there risking their own life, the greatest gift that nobody can live without for money, that's bad. They should feel bad
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#28 Posted: 21:34:49 18/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Seiki
Quote: Windumup
Guys they are risking their own life, FOR MONEY.

smilie


That doesn't make it ok. That's a different issue in itself which is made a tad better by having the panic button. The main issue is that you're ok with watching people die and seem like you would make fun of them for using the panic button.

Quote: SuperSpyroFan55


If its fake then its just like watching a movie, besides they're the ones that decided to do that. I'm sure they can pull out whenever they want.



When we mention about it being fake, we're referring to Bumblebunni's post saying the article is likely fake and that Russia might not actually be doing this. They can drop out whenever, the article mentions a panic button.



If there risking their own life, the greatest gift that nobody can live without for money, that's bad. They should feel bad



Your lack of compassion alarms me.
Windumup Emerald Sparx Gems: 3217
#29 Posted: 21:37:21 18/12/2016
Quote: Waaksian
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Seiki


That doesn't make it ok. That's a different issue in itself which is made a tad better by having the panic button. The main issue is that you're ok with watching people die and seem like you would make fun of them for using the panic button.


When we mention about it being fake, we're referring to Bumblebunni's post saying the article is likely fake and that Russia might not actually be doing this. They can drop out whenever, the article mentions a panic button.



If there risking their own life, the greatest gift that nobody can live without for money, that's bad. They should feel bad



Your lack of compassion alarms me.


They risked their lives for money and fame, if nobody watches them die (or live) then it's pointless
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Windumup Emerald Sparx Gems: 3217
#30 Posted: 22:08:56 18/12/2016
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Windumup, you're becoming more and more disturbing with each passing day.

>.< or it's just the bias, literally if anyone else said it they wouldn't get nearly as much backlash
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#31 Posted: 22:10:28 18/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Windumup, you're becoming more and more disturbing with each passing day.

>.< or it's just the bias, literally if anyone else said it they wouldn't get nearly as much backlash



Bias? I hardly even know who you are, let alone have a bias against you. My best friend could be saying the exact same things you have been, and I would have reacted the same way.
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#32 Posted: 23:08:11 18/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Windumup, you're becoming more and more disturbing with each passing day.

>.< or it's just the bias, literally if anyone else said it they wouldn't get nearly as much backlash



My reaction has nothing to do with who posted it. It's a matter of how messed up not only your reaction is but the whole situation itself that honestly has me concerned. This has nothing to do with bias. It's a matter of how your posts seem to almost devalue human life. Yes, it is wrong that they are risking their lives for the money to begin with, but the fact that you appear to have no ill feelings whatsoever and are completely ok with seeing someone die on a live video feed leaves me a bit worried for the safety of those around you irl. Not to mention the fact that still gets me in you calling it a "wimp button" as if actually accepting that the conditions are too harsh and being afraid to die suddenly makes someone a coward.

I would be rendered just as bewildered if anyone else posted this. I have actually been struggling to explain how ****ed up this is to you as I was left speechless after reading your posts.
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#33 Posted: 00:29:04 19/12/2016
It's messed up, but they have an escape button that may not matter when it comes down to combat.
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#34 Posted: 01:00:58 19/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Windumup, you're becoming more and more disturbing with each passing day.

>.< or it's just the bias, literally if anyone else said it they wouldn't get nearly as much backlash


Not this time.

I tend to come to the rescue and defend your ass frequently when I feel there's a case of people getting on you for an issue specifically because it's you and not someone else. But I cannot think of a single person on this site who's reputation wouldn't be damaged or questioned by the statements you're making here.

This isn't bias. This is a serious problem. I get that it can be akin to a car crash (you don't wanna see but you can't look away due to curiosity), but your posts seem to imply you're anticipating something of this. It's like anticipating that car crash as opposed to simply being there when it happened.

Your deepest primal instincts lead you to want to see this happen. It's curiosity but it's also something you need to shake off a little bit. I get being curious but actively wanting to see people die on live TV for entertainment is at least a tad disturbing.

Quote: Windumup
It's messed up, but they have an escape button that may not matter when it comes down to combat.


A button that you previously called the "wimp button". Others would probably see it the same way and so there would be a societal pressure to not press it. Pride would get in the way as the alternative would be pressing the button and going back home to the everlasting shame and humiliation of their peers and region as the fool who was too much of a coward to stand and fight.

Your opinion on the button perfectly demonstrates why they wouldn't want to press it, and instead stay there and die.
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#35 Posted: 01:28:28 19/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Windumup, you're becoming more and more disturbing with each passing day.

>.< or it's just the bias, literally if anyone else said it they wouldn't get nearly as much backlash


First off, I am beyond words right now because you can't even understand why people are questioning what you said, let alone understand why what you said was wrong;

Second off, this is not bias at all. Normally I try not to get involved when something happens revolving you or I try to stay neutral ground whenever you're getting piled on(whether it's justified or not) or at least help you understand why people might be frustrated with you or even take your side in some cases depending on the circumstance, but you basically said you're perfectly okay with seeing someone die on live television. What were you expecting? Did you honestly think that wouldn't be questioned if ANYONE said that? I can tell you right now that if anyone even IMPLIED what you said they would get backlash from everybody, because that thinking is downright horrific. Even if these people are in it for the money, no one deserves to die over it, and it certainly shouldn't be looked down upon when they want to "wimp out" as you put it. And whether the article is fake or not is beside the point, because you said all this without even considering whether or not this game show is real;

Third off, you are treating this like it really is just one big act. I can understand why something like this would be interesting to you(if it wasn't, The Hunger Games wouldn't be nearly as successful as it is, or a lot of other media), but that's fiction. This is real life. People would actually die- fathers, wives, friends, siblings, the list goes on. I honestly find it hard to believe you would find this entertaining as opposed to fictional characters getting killed off in something like The Hunger Games. Because if you do, it's just insane. If you personally knew someone participating in something like this, would you be okay with other people watching them actually die for entertainment?

I really try not to get on your case for anything(because everyone else does that all the time whether it's justified or not) and I really try to avoid "calling out" other users on this site but what you said is downright disgusting. No questions asked.
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#36 Posted: 09:57:50 19/12/2016
This topic gets deeper and deeper.
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#37 Posted: 10:46:58 19/12/2016
story seems to be legit its just that they are trying to sensationalize it to the max, so yeah you can rape/murder but you will get arrested for it and wont be able to claim the money, they also only accept sane people so its not actually going to be a crazy murderfest
AND on top of that you need to pay $100,000 usd to enter

tldr; its rich russians hunting animals for 40 minutes
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#38 Posted: 23:23:50 19/12/2016
I love how the victim card gets thrown but the "victim" brought this upon themself.
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#39 Posted: 01:54:25 20/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Guys they are risking their own life, FOR MONEY.

smilie


I don't know about you but watching people kill each other for money doesn't sound like a lot of fun, whether they're doing it willingly or not.

The fact that you call the "Safe" button the WIMP button makes me really concerned on your value of human life.
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#40 Posted: 02:59:08 20/12/2016
Quote: TheFlyingSeal
Quote: Windumup
Guys they are risking their own life, FOR MONEY.

smilie


I don't know about you but watching people kill each other for money doesn't sound like a lot of fun, whether they're doing it willingly or not.

The fact that you call the "Safe" button the WIMP button makes me really concerned on your value of human life.


I mean, if they are willing to put their lives in danger for material objects, then maybe they should die.
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#41 Posted: 03:14:31 20/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: TheFlyingSeal
Quote: Windumup
Guys they are risking their own life, FOR MONEY.

smilie


I don't know about you but watching people kill each other for money doesn't sound like a lot of fun, whether they're doing it willingly or not.

The fact that you call the "Safe" button the WIMP button makes me really concerned on your value of human life.


I mean, if they are willing to put their lives in danger for material objects, then maybe they should die.


Well I guess I know what your opinion on the death penalty is
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#42 Posted: 03:22:19 20/12/2016
Quote: Windumup
Quote: TheFlyingSeal
Quote: Windumup
Guys they are risking their own life, FOR MONEY.

smilie


I don't know about you but watching people kill each other for money doesn't sound like a lot of fun, whether they're doing it willingly or not.

The fact that you call the "Safe" button the WIMP button makes me really concerned on your value of human life.


I mean, if they are willing to put their lives in danger for material objects, then maybe they should die.


I can't comprehend why you would want to see someone die. Have you ever seen someone die? I have, it's not fun, it's not entertaining either. windumup, you seriously are getting more and more disturbing every time you post.
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#43 Posted: 03:25:15 20/12/2016
smilie I am just saying I would pick living longer over giving myself a 99% chance of dying for an object.
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#44 Posted: 03:31:48 20/12/2016
Besides, money is the best, and we all take some risks for it. Not as much as deadly challenges like this, but still.
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