darkSpyro

talk about religion here then fight to the death against other users over your belief system

I follow the religion of Arceism. Arceus is the only true god and all others are stupid.

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I follow the religion of Arceism. Arceus is the only true god and all others are stupid.

Arkeism, Giratina heathen. Didn't Saint Silvally die to confirm the official pronounciation of Arceus? >:C

You know Pixar is my god.

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I don't have a religion

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I follow the religion of Arceism. Arceus is the only true god and all others are stupid.

Arkeism, Giratina heathen. Didn't Saint Silvally die to confirm the official pronounciation of Arceus? >:C

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/s since I have no doubts that someone WON'T take this seriously

Our lord and savior's name is still spelled with a "c" though only effecting how it's said, making YOU the heathen. >:(

I'm a Merman.

I guess.

Sorry Alydol, but Shrek is the one true god.

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Sorry Alydol, but Shrek is the one true god.

True.

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Fill in the blanks.

My religion,_______, is far more superior than yours because a)_______ and b)_______. Finally, your religion,_______, sucks because_________. And that's that.

religion is the most stupid thing to exist

E U P H O R I C

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Sorry Alydol, but Shrek is the one true god.

True.

I'm sorry Crash10 but I still think you look like this in real life

I am a jeremist. I support our true lord and savior Jeremy

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I don't have a religion

This is how stupid atheists are"
"I'm King-Pen Krazy. I am intelligent because I believe I'm an ape. I believe the world banged into existence. I GOT A BIG BUTT! AND IT EVOLVED THERE. I'M SO INTELLIGENT, AND INTELLIGENT, AND INTELLIGENT, AND INTELLIGENT, AND INTERNET. I'M A DEMOCRAT AND THAT MEANS I'M A DEMIGOD, BUT AIN'T THAT WAY TOO HYPOCRITICAL? AIN'T IT?"

i think youre missing a few things

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I don't have a religion

This is how stupid atheists are"
"I'm King-Pen Krazy. I am intelligent because I believe I'm an ape. I believe the world banged into existence. I GOT A BIG BUTT! AND IT EVOLVED THERE. I'M SO INTELLIGENT, AND INTELLIGENT, AND INTELLIGENT, AND INTELLIGENT, AND INTERNET. I'M A DEMOCRAT AND THAT MEANS I'M A DEMIGOD, BUT AIN'T THAT WAY TOO HYPOCRITICAL? AIN'T IT?"

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Alydol if you're going to debate religion against atheists/agnostics please do so in a civil way. This goes towards others as well.

Right, so the thread blew up since the last time I checked. Called it.

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religion is the most stupid thing to exist

Well, it's possible that atheists are, not the people their believes is purely illogical and just far too stubborn. Christianity makes sense. I'll give you many reasons why there is a god, and here are a few:

1. Evolution and The Big Bang is a rather recent "discovery" it will probably go down like the rest of the atheist lies.
2. Science cannot tell you the difference between right and wrong. If there was no wrong or right in the world, there would be no pain, no emotions, and no thought. The thing is religious people believe that it was created by a god. Atheists will think that science can explain everything, it can't because if there was no difference between right and wrong nobody would care if someone killed someone.
3. God by definition has always existed
4. The reason of so much pain in the world is because God loved us so much that he gave us the choice to either do the right or the wrong. And the reason why problems started is because when the world was perfect, Adam and Eve sinned which caused the sinless world to be changed entirely.

hey guys i think i made a mistake

I love how jesus walked on water the bible is amazing.

Can't wait for the movie.

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religion is the most stupid thing to exist

go back to reddit lol

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I love how jesus walked on water the bible is amazing.

Can't wait for the movie.

passion of the christ is a bad movie that rode the hype of it being, you know, a jeebus film, and it honestly shouldnt have made as much money as it did

/endopinion

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Sorry Alydol, but Shrek is the one true god.

True.

I'm sorry Crash10 but I still think you look like this in real life

He'll come back... Eventually...


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I love how jesus walked on water the bible is amazing.

Can't wait for the movie.

I'm more excited for the sequel.

Honestly if you are any religion besides Jeremist, you will burn in Hell.

How'd I know alydol would completely miss the fact that this is a joke topic?

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Honestly if you are any religion besides Jeremist, you will burn in Hell.

im a devout madokist and i take offense to that > : (

I am my own god

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Honestly if you are any religion besides Jeremist, you will burn in Hell.

im a devout madokist and i take offense to that > : (

enjoy hell loser

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Honestly if you are any religion besides Jeremist, you will burn in Hell.

I love you Wreckingball13, you're always so nice and usually go unnoticed by most users and you never cause any trouble,
<3 u

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I am my own god

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GO BACK TO REDDIT

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Honestly if you are any religion besides Jeremist, you will burn in Hell.

I love you Wreckingball13, you're always so nice and usually go unnoticed by most users and you never cause any trouble,
<3 u

luv u too

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I am my own god

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GO BACK TO REDDIT

this is my new home now

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I am my own god

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okay this was a good post

Quote: Alydol

Quote: Takadox360

religion is the most stupid thing to exist

Well, it's possible that atheists are, not the people their believes is purely illogical and just far too stubborn. Christianity makes sense. I'll give you many reasons why there is a god, and here are a few:

1. Evolution and The Big Bang is a rather recent "discovery" it will probably go down like the rest of the atheist lies.
2. Science cannot tell you the difference between right and wrong. If there was no wrong or right in the world, there would be no pain, no emotions, and no thought. The thing is religious people believe that it was created by a god. Atheists will think that science can explain everything, it can't because if there was no difference between right and wrong nobody would care if someone killed someone.
3. God by definition has always existed
4. The reason of so much pain in the world is because God loved us so much that he gave us the choice to either do the right or the wrong. And the reason why problems started is because when the world was perfect, Adam and Eve sinned which caused the sinless world to be changed entirely.

I believe science and Christianity go hand in hand. Keep in mind that the Bible was written by HUMANS who wrote their perceptions based on what they heard/saw. For example, evidence that Noah's ark actually existed has been found and discussed throughout the past decade or so. However, when the Bible says the entire world was flooded, humans in that area of the world had not yet explored most of the other continents, and God probably wouldn't have just told them these continents exist, or the entire course of history would be vastly different. The whole world to those humans back then was Asia/Europe/etc, so it is fully possible that a big flood occurred in that general area and a guy built a boat for most of the animals he could gather from the local area.

TLDR: Some parts of both religion and science are facts; the truth is not one or the other, it's both, and we will never know the full truth until we die.

Thank you for the civil post (mostly). I'll respond in kind.

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Quote: Takadox360

religion is the most stupid thing to exist

Well, it's possible that atheists are, not the people their believes is purely illogical and just far too stubborn. Christianity makes sense. I'll give you many reasons why there is a god, and here are a few:

1. Evolution and The Big Bang is a recent "discovery" it will probably go down like the rest of the atheist lies.
2. Science cannot tell you the difference between right and wrong. If there was no wrong or right in the world, there would be no pain, no emotions, and no thought. The thing is religious people believe that it was created by a god. Atheists will think that science can explain everything, it can't because if there was no difference between right and wrong nobody would care if someone killed someone.
3. God by definition has always existed
4. The reason of so much pain in the world is because God loved us so much that he gave us the choice to either do the right or the wrong. And the reason why problems started is because when the world was perfect, Adam and Eve sinned which caused the sinless world to be changed entirely.

1. It's a recent discovery as science and humanity advances further and further and develop new technology to test these theories. The idea that the Earth revolved around the Sun rather than the other way around was a recent discovery long ago as well; a discovery that everyone called blasphemous as they felt God created the Earth to be the center of the universe.
It was later proven to be fact that the universe doesn't revolve around us, figuratively and literally.

2. You're talking morals and ethics, which are creations stemmed from the human brain through things like logic and reasoning. The human brain is very complex in how it processes things like this, as well as the conformist nature that has us individuals bending to these standard ethics (e.g. it's generally accepted that it's wrong to kill, so you will believe such as well and refrain).

Morals and ethics can come from many different backgrounds as everyone is different. Some come from, again, conformist nature and a desire to not stick out that badly from the societal norm. Some come from logic and reasoning (e.g. what do you accomplish by killing someone?). And yes, a lot comes from a person's respective religion (this is not exclusive to monotheism).

This is why I tend to look at religion as pretty good in helping to develop morals and in general be a good way to live one's life. Most religion speaks on being good to each other and helping when you can, and not doing malice. Unfortunately mankind has had a history of twisting religion to suit one's own world view or actions (see: Westboro).

That said, you don't need religion to have a moral code. Steve Harvey tried to claim the same thing and it's honestly kind of insulting to, by proxy, insist that if you're an atheist you have no morals and therefore are an evil person. I'm an atheist and I know it's not right to steal, or kill, or kick someone's sand castle down. And that's not just because I was originally Catholic.

It can also go the other direction; a Christian or other religious person can have negative ethics or no morals. Think of all the religious folk who wanted to harm others because they followed a different religion, or because they were different.

3. Do you have a source or undeniable proof outside the Bible? Not to talk down to you or anything but I can't take the Bible as written fact when it's been rewritten in so many different ways so many different times, all by humans who simply claim to have heard the word.
Science is about coming up with a theory, then experimenting and learning to learn if that theory is true. Big Bang isn't completely verified to be true, but there's bits and bobs of evidence that lend credit to it. Comparatively speaking, the existence of God so far is mostly supported by the Bible, which again may not necessarily be fact to some circles.

4. If you give us free will and the choice to do whatever you want, why punish us when we decide to do something as mundane and simple as not follow your specific faith, or have a different sexual orientation?
It would be one thing if it was just actual crimes being punished but it goes further beyond that. In the end it ends up feeling like a parent that says "fine do whatever you want" but then grounds you for a week when they catch you eating ice cream for dinner.

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Quote: Takadox360

religion is the most stupid thing to exist

Well, it's possible that atheists are, not the people their believes is purely illogical and just far too stubborn. Christianity makes sense. I'll give you many reasons why there is a god, and here are a few:

1. Evolution and The Big Bang is a rather recent "discovery" it will probably go down like the rest of the atheist lies.
2. Science cannot tell you the difference between right and wrong. If there was no wrong or right in the world, there would be no pain, no emotions, and no thought. The thing is religious people believe that it was created by a god. Atheists will think that science can explain everything, it can't because if there was no difference between right and wrong nobody would care if someone killed someone.
3. God by definition has always existed
4. The reason of so much pain in the world is because God loved us so much that he gave us the choice to either do the right or the wrong. And the reason why problems started is because when the world was perfect, Adam and Eve sinned which caused the sinless world to be changed entirely.

Thank you for these great points that are definitely 100% fact and not opinions at all.

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Quote: Takadox360

religion is the most stupid thing to exist

Well, it's possible that atheists are, not the people their believes is purely illogical and just far too stubborn. Christianity makes sense. I'll give you many reasons why there is a god, and here are a few:

1. Evolution and The Big Bang is a rather recent "discovery" it will probably go down like the rest of the atheist lies.
2. Science cannot tell you the difference between right and wrong. If there was no wrong or right in the world, there would be no pain, no emotions, and no thought. The thing is religious people believe that it was created by a god. Atheists will think that science can explain everything, it can't because if there was no difference between right and wrong nobody would care if someone killed someone.
3. God by definition has always existed
4. The reason of so much pain in the world is because God loved us so much that he gave us the choice to either do the right or the wrong. And the reason why problems started is because when the world was perfect, Adam and Eve sinned which caused the sinless world to be changed entirely.

1. That's... not a reason. That's a statement with no backing. It's a "recent" discovery because prior to the Scientific Revolution, people would blindly believe anything the bible told them. Then people realized they could generate their own knowledge through research and experimentation. Evolution is an undeniable fact. Let me break it down for you, because clearly you never decided to pay attention to this subject. If an animal has a trait that is more beneficial to survival, that certain animal is more likely to survive, right? That's basic logic that even a kindergartener could understand, and I think you might have at least that level of intelligence. So because that animal survived, that trait will be passed down to its offspring. Since a more defined feature means higher chances of survival, the trait will become more prominent over multiple generations of the organism. Thus altering the species as a whole. Evolution is not a debatable subject. Calling it an "atheist lie" with no actual evidence is pure idiocy.

2. That's because "right" and "wrong" are ideas made by humans. Of course, different societies seem to have common moral denominators, but that's just getting into abstract thought and philosophy. I'm not an expert on this subject, but the concepts of "right" and "wrong" do not automatically warrant the existence of a god.

3. PFFT. That's not even remotely true. By Christians (and other religions but Christianity is the topic at hand), yes, that is the revered definition. But that in no way means it exists. This comment actually made me spit out my drink by how uneducated it is.

4. ...No, pain exists because that's just how the nervous system, the brain, and life in general functions. If anything, the pain proves there not to be a God because then God would do something about it. Regarding your idea of Adam and Eve sinning to bring pain to the world, let me point out some things about that fairy tale. First, if God really didn't want them to eat the apple, he wouldn't have put it right in plain ****ing reach. Designs of dinosaurs and carnivorous animals which supposedly existed at the time, according to your very book, depend entirely on killing and consuming other animals. Death has to exist for them to function at all, yet apparently they existed before sin existed, huh? Also, if death didn't exist, Adam and Eve wouldn't have had to eat at all in the first place. It would've been an entirely foreign concept to them because nothing at all was necessary to their survival. I could go on and on about this but there's a character limit here, so I'm gonna cut myself off there.

And with this, Alydol, I leave YOU, the Christianity expert of DarkSpyro, with this question; If the universe had to have been created by something, then what created God? And what created God's creator, and so on? Because if no matter what, something's gonna have to have existed forever, why can't it just be the universe itself? There's recorded evidence of events that contradict the Bible's fictitious stories, as well as a lack of recorded evidence by history's most prolific societies of events described in the Bible. So if your book is so real, can you give me one single solid piece of evidence? Your fake book doesn't count by the way, it was written by people.

Aaand here's my serious input.

I'm spiritual, but no longer following a religion. I was a Christian up until last year(??) because I don't completely agree with it. I'm not saying all Christians are mad Bible bashers that rage at those who believe different, (I know that for a fact, though it is still very common) but I just didn't want to be involved with those people. And what do I think now? Believe what you want to believe. Not everyone is going to agree with you, that's life. Forcing your beliefs in an aggressive manner just makes people seem most unpleasant. I completely support any religious discussion being done in a civilized manner, though.

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Aaand here's my serious input.

I'm spiritual, but no longer following a religion. I was a Christian up until last year(??) because I don't completely agree with it. I'm not saying all Christians are mad Bible bashers that rage at those who believe different, (I know that for a fact, though it is still very common) but I just didn't want to be involved with those people. And what do I think now? Believe what you want to believe. Not everyone is going to agree with you, that's life. Forcing your beliefs in an aggressive manner just makes people seem most unpleasant. I completely support any religious discussion being done in a civilized manner, though.

I believe the term for that is Deist, but I could be wrong.

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I believe the term for that is Deist, but I could be wrong.

Hmm. I've never really looked into it before, but that might be it.

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Quote: Takadox360

religion is the most stupid thing to exist

Well, it's possible that atheists are, not the people their believes is purely illogical and just far too stubborn. Christianity makes sense. I'll give you many reasons why there is a god, and here are a few:

1. Evolution and The Big Bang is a rather recent "discovery" it will probably go down like the rest of the atheist lies.
2. Science cannot tell you the difference between right and wrong. If there was no wrong or right in the world, there would be no pain, no emotions, and no thought. The thing is religious people believe that it was created by a god. Atheists will think that science can explain everything, it can't because if there was no difference between right and wrong nobody would care if someone killed someone.
3. God by definition has always existed
4. The reason of so much pain in the world is because God loved us so much that he gave us the choice to either do the right or the wrong. And the reason why problems started is because when the world was perfect, Adam and Eve sinned which caused the sinless world to be changed entirely.

1. That's... not a reason. That's a statement with no backing. It's a "recent" discovery because prior to the Scientific Revolution, people would blindly believe anything the bible told them. Then people realized they could generate their own knowledge through research and experimentation. Evolution is an undeniable fact. Let me break it down for you, because clearly you never decided to pay attention to this subject. If an animal has a trait that is more beneficial to survival, that certain animal is more likely to survive, right? That's basic logic that even a kindergartener could understand, and I think you might have at least that level of intelligence. So because that animal survived, that trait will be passed down to its offspring. Since a more defined feature means higher chances of survival, the trait will become more prominent over multiple generations of the organism. Thus altering the species as a whole. Evolution is not a debatable subject. Calling it an "atheist lie" with no actual evidence is pure idiocy.

2. That's because "right" and "wrong" are ideas made by humans. Of course, different societies seem to have common moral denominators, but that's just getting into abstract thought and philosophy. I'm not an expert on this subject, but the concepts of "right" and "wrong" do not automatically warrant the existence of a god.

3. PFFT. That's not even remotely true. By Christians (and other religions but Christianity is the topic at hand), yes, that is the revered definition. But that in no way means it exists. This comment actually made me spit out my drink by how uneducated it is.

4. ...No, pain exists because that's just how the nervous system, the brain, and life in general functions. If anything, the pain proves there not to be a God because then God would do something about it. Regarding your idea of Adam and Eve sinning to bring pain to the world, let me point out some things about that fairy tale. First, if God really didn't want them to eat the apple, he wouldn't have put it right in plain ****ing reach. Designs of dinosaurs and carnivorous animals which supposedly existed at the time, according to your very book, depend entirely on killing and consuming other animals. Death has to exist for them to function at all, yet apparently they existed before sin existed, huh? Also, if death didn't exist, Adam and Eve wouldn't have had to eat at all in the first place. It would've been an entirely foreign concept to them because nothing at all was necessary to their survival. I could go on and on about this but there's a character limit here, so I'm gonna cut myself off there.

And with this, Alydol, I leave YOU, the Christianity expert of DarkSpyro, with this question; If the universe had to have been created by something, then what created God? And what created God's creator, and so on? Because if no matter what, something's gonna have to have existed forever, why can't it just be the universe itself? There's recorded evidence of events that contradict the Bible's fictitious stories, as well as a lack of recorded evidence by history's most prolific societies of events described in the Bible. So if your book is so real, can you give me one single solid piece of evidence? Your fake book doesn't count by the way, it was written by people.

Well God has always existed. God wasn't created he has always been.

If God has always existed, in what plane of existence did he exist in before he created the only currently known plane of existence?

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