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Nintendo NX completely leaked, NO BC, handheld w/tv out, cartridges [CLOSED]
GarbageMemes101 Ripto Gems: 670
#1 Posted: 15:40:42 26/07/2016 | Topic Creator
http://www.eurogamer.net/artic...ble-controllers

This means Zelda NX on the go.

-GarbageMemes101
Edited 2 times - Last edited at 15:42:54 26/07/2016 by GarbageMemes101
Big Green Platinum Sparx Gems: 6372
#2 Posted: 15:53:29 26/07/2016
not sure what to think yet, i should probably shut up because i'll likely end up buying it eventually anyway
kardonis Platinum Sparx Gems: 6366
#3 Posted: 16:05:13 26/07/2016
I, I think I like it. It's certainly unique, and being able to take my full console wherever I want seems to be what the Wii U wanted to be.
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Bryman04 Gold Sparx Gems: 2116
#4 Posted: 16:11:24 26/07/2016
I hope it has Wii U compatibility, still gonna get it.

EDIT:

Quote: Eurogamer
Due to the radical change in hardware design and internal technology, we've been told by one source that there are no plans for backwards compatibility.


Quote: GarbageMemes101
Quote: Bryman04
I hope it has Wii U compatibility, still gonna get it.


The article says no backwards compatibility. So does the thread.


-GarbageMemes101


I see now.
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arceustheprime Ripto Gems: 5362
#5 Posted: 16:18:12 26/07/2016
"We were told Nintendo considered but then decided against making a system which supported digital downloads only."
thank you for looking out for the people with third world tier internet nintendo

this is pretty awesome , i've always preffered handheld consoles personally but am a bit worried on how much they are sacrificing specs wise. the battery life may be a bit lacking too but we will see. will probably pick it up if its cheap and doesnt have too many issues.
GarbageMemes101 Ripto Gems: 670
#6 Posted: 16:34:12 26/07/2016 | Topic Creator
Third party support will probably be lacking again...however...

With one Console/handheld hybrid, Nintendo will be able to combine their first party development teams and have all of their output for one device. There shouldn't be a Nintendo drought anymore.

Quote: Bryman04
I hope it has Wii U compatibility, still gonna get it.


The article says no backwards compatibility. So does the thread.

-GarbageMemes101
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mega spyro Emerald Sparx Gems: 3993
#7 Posted: 16:38:50 26/07/2016
I really don't like this to much. I don't like that controller at all. I also don't like the fact that they're using cartridges, that have relatively small storage space on them.


Maybe if it's partially a handheld, we'll see Pokemon games on a main console? Unlikely, but I can dream.
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GarbageMemes101 Ripto Gems: 670
#8 Posted: 16:40:54 26/07/2016 | Topic Creator
^ Nintendo is apparently recommending 32GB size cartridges. And yes, this means we will get a real console Pokemon.

-GarbageMemes101
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StriderSwag Gold Sparx Gems: 2769
#9 Posted: 17:48:41 26/07/2016
cool console, still not buying
TheFlyingSeal Diamond Sparx Gems: 8761
#10 Posted: 17:49:47 26/07/2016
what the hell is up with new consoles and refusing to have backwards compatibility like what is your damage
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StriderSwag Gold Sparx Gems: 2769
#11 Posted: 17:51:39 26/07/2016
Quote: TheFlyingSeal
what the hell is up with new consoles and refusing to have backwards compatibility like what is your damage


time for a brand new xbox one
GarbageMemes101 Ripto Gems: 670
#12 Posted: 17:55:35 26/07/2016 | Topic Creator
Quote: TheFlyingSeal
what the hell is up with new consoles and refusing to have backwards compatibility like what is your damage


What is completely different system architecture? It's not just a simple line of programming code to implement BC.

-GarbageMemes101
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ZapNorris Ripto Gems: 5109
#13 Posted: 20:08:07 26/07/2016
i think i'll stick with my wii u ty ver much
Bryman04 Gold Sparx Gems: 2116
#14 Posted: 20:15:29 26/07/2016
You can't pull me away from Super Mario Galaxy 3, so I'll get the NX sooner or later.
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6430
#15 Posted: 20:24:37 26/07/2016
Barring Spla2n or Smash 5, I'm not interested right now. If it's still not as powerful as PS4/XBO and they ask over $250 I'm likely never touching it since lack of third party support is a huge reason my Wii U isn't getting that much playtime outside of Smash and Splatoon.

Also detachable controllers, at least looking at that concept art, seems silly and impractical to me, and remind me of those old pong consoles.
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wanderist Platinum Sparx Gems: 7090
#16 Posted: 20:46:03 26/07/2016
I didn't really care about the NX up until now, but this actually looks pretty cool. Still won't get it unless the main series Pokemon games really do end up transitioning to it, but still.
yelvy Gold Sparx Gems: 2450
#17 Posted: 20:47:23 26/07/2016
So is this replacing Wii and DS?
Crash10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4745
#18 Posted: 20:57:33 26/07/2016
You know that this is a rumor, right? Like, it looks fake as hell to me, but it can be true.
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ZapNorris Ripto Gems: 5109
#19 Posted: 21:16:04 26/07/2016
i mean if they give us smg3 and splat2n then i'm in but if not then nah
GarbageMemes101 Ripto Gems: 670
#20 Posted: 21:19:44 26/07/2016 | Topic Creator
Quote: Crash10
You know that this is a rumor, right? Like, it looks fake as hell to me, but it can be true.



I take it you haven't been following the NX leaks, patents, and other information floating around the web? This is all but confirmed. These tips are coming from very heavily trusted insiders. Eurogamer, who reported this, also has a very high track record when it comes to reliability.

This is Nintendo's next console/handheld, whether you like it or not. This will be replacing the WiiU/3DS brand.

-GarbageMemes101
Crash10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4745
#21 Posted: 22:22:21 26/07/2016
Quote: GarbageMemes101
Quote: Crash10
You know that this is a rumor, right? Like, it looks fake as hell to me, but it can be true.



I take it you haven't been following the NX leaks, patents, and other information floating around the web? This is all but confirmed. These tips are coming from very heavily trusted insiders. Eurogamer, who reported this, also has a very high track record when it comes to reliability.

This is Nintendo's next console/handheld, whether you like it or not. This will be replacing the WiiU/3DS brand.

-GarbageMemes101


Well, at least, if the rumor is true, the console is only portable, not a hybrid, right? Well, I feel that not, but I can't really say. This is considering the fact that booth The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Project Sonic 2017 are on it.

I also can't see why make a portable that powerful if the proposal of portable consoles is make then a cheaper alternative.

I could be 100% wrong with all of it, but I prefer to not believe in it until Nintendo officially confirms everything. If it doesn't run Wii U games, then I have a problem.
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Mesuxelf Ripto Gems: 3666
#22 Posted: 22:27:21 26/07/2016
Way to spoil it to everyone who was avoiding the leak by putting the leaked information in the title.
MagicFizz Emerald Sparx Gems: 3728
#23 Posted: 22:30:30 26/07/2016
Quote: Mesuxelf
Way to spoil it to everyone who was avoiding the leak by putting the leaked information in the title.



tbh...
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somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 9574
#24 Posted: 00:29:51 27/07/2016
Kinda wish they just used blu Ray disc instead limiting themselves with the cartridges. But I guess having the gimmick of limiting your console means better games.
Crash10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4745
#25 Posted: 00:47:12 27/07/2016
But, as I know, the memory is much worse. This was a problem for thirds at the Nintendo 64 times. Maybe it's only the media of the portable NX. But I still can't see why you think it's 100% true, considering it has everything to be fake. But, if it's true, I will buy a Wii U without problem.
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somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 9574
#26 Posted: 00:47:15 27/07/2016
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: somePerson
Kinda wish they just used blu Ray disc instead limiting themselves with the cartridges. But I guess having the gimmick of limiting your console means better games.


They aren't really "limiting" anything by using cartridges, since, as I said before, there are a lot of advantages to using cartridges these days compared to the past.



I never said that the cartridges limited the console. The gimmick of being both a handhold and a household console limits the console greatly. The thing that I hate about cartridges is that they will make the NX look childish and make the console look like the Wii. Nintendo already has problems being known as the baby game company but Pokemon Go has brought back interest towards the company. I can see the NX start as a failure until the next Pokemon game comes out and stay at that until Smash 5 or Melee HD. That and cartridges cost way not to produce than discs.
Crash10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4745
#27 Posted: 01:19:18 27/07/2016
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: Crash10
But, as I know, the memory is much worse. This was a problem for thirds at the Nintendo 64 times. Maybe it's only the media of the portable NX. But I still can't see why you think it's 100% true, considering it has everything to be fake. But, if it's true, I will buy a Wii U without problem.


Can you elaborate on the memory thing? I'm not sure if I follow you on that.
The Nintendo 64 is much older, so I don't see why you're bringing it up here when I already explained that cartridges are a lot different these days.

You aren't really reading any of the past posts or the article, are you? This rumor is from numerous sources, and Eurogamer has a lot of credibility.


Don't really consider what I say as assumptions. Consider as... Feelings.

I mean, at the time of the Nintendo 64, discs could have bigger games as cartridges. Like, I remember that some PlayStation games where hard to port to the Nintendo 64 thanks to that. I just felt that booth evolved, but the discs still were a better option considering the size of the games.

I read the entire article, but I'm one of those persons who never believes until I see proof. I know, the source has credibility, but I prefer a official word to 100% believe in that. Or at least a image that proofs the point. And that The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild cartridge on the article didn't felt real to me.

And they fact that they said that will be a portable console, with no word at all of it's home console counterpart is strange, considering that 90% of the rumors says the NX is a hybrid.

Maybe I'm just a baby whining over the lack of backwards compatibility, so it's better to not take what I'm saying in consideration.

Anyway, now I don't know what I'll do with my life. I buy a Wii U or a NX?
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somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 9574
#28 Posted: 01:33:22 27/07/2016
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: Crash10
But, as I know, the memory is much worse. This was a problem for thirds at the Nintendo 64 times. Maybe it's only the media of the portable NX. But I still can't see why you think it's 100% true, considering it has everything to be fake. But, if it's true, I will buy a Wii U without problem.


Can you elaborate on the memory thing? I'm not sure if I follow you on that.
The Nintendo 64 is much older, so I don't see why you're bringing it up here when I already explained that cartridges are a lot different these days.

You aren't really reading any of the past posts or the article, are you? This rumor is from numerous sources, and Eurogamer has a lot of credibility.

Quote: somePerson
I never said that the cartridges limited the console. The gimmick of being both a handhold and a household console limits the console greatly. The thing that I hate about cartridges is that they will make the NX look childish and make the console look like the Wii. Nintendo already has problems being known as the baby game company but Pokemon Go has brought back interest towards the company. I can see the NX start as a failure until the next Pokemon game comes out and stay at that until Smash 5 or Melee HD. That and cartridges cost way not to produce than discs.


How does it limit the console? Please explain.

And the console looking "childish" doesn't really matter.
(Not to mention being of little relevance, especially since - as I've said multiple times already - cartridges are a lot different today than they were back then)

I can't help the fact that you and other people have weird notions of things when it comes to something looking "childish" or "babyish".
In the end, most of the time how something looks is of little consequence.
It is how something works and functions that is of more importance, and that should be looked at instead of trivial and mundane things like appearance.

The only things I could see being wrong with the usage of cartridges is the cost to produce them (Which I'm not sure of), and developers being potentially alienated.
(Though I would see the latter being more likely simply because of the fact that NX is a "hybrid" of a home and handheld console)



Because handhelds are not as powerful as a household console and this is just a glorified handheld console that can be viewed on your tv. Appearance sell no matter what. If you're next console looks stupid than only the die hard fans will buy your console. Nobody wants to look like they're playing a console made fir 5 year olds which is why the modern gen consoles are sleek and have simple looking controllers. If you're making a new device then you want to attract the audience outside of your shills to make more money.
Crash10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4745
#29 Posted: 01:39:54 27/07/2016
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: Crash10
Don't really consider what I say as assumptions. Consider as... Feelings.

I mean, at the time of the Nintendo 64, discs could have bigger games as cartridges. Like, I remember that some PlayStation games where hard to port to the Nintendo 64 thanks to that. I just felt that booth evolved, but the discs still were a better option considering the size of the games.

I read the entire article, but I'm one of those persons who never believes until I see proof. I know, the source has credibility, but I prefer a official word to 100% believe in that. Or at least a image that proofs the point. And that The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild cartridge on the article didn't felt real to me.

And they fact that they said that will be a portable console, with no word at all of it's home console counterpart is strange, considering that 90% of the rumors says the NX is a hybrid.

Maybe I'm just a baby whining over the lack of backwards compatibility, so it's better to not take what I'm saying in consideration.

Anyway, now I don't know what I'll do with my life. I buy a Wii U or a NX?


Yes, disc were the better option back then. That was only because of the limitations and physical size of cartridges back then, however.

Now? It depends on what kind of cartridge we're talking about.
Many cartridges these days can hold a lot more than how much they could hold back then, sometimes even more then disc these days.
Cartridges can hold gigabytes of data on them these days, same with disc.

Some of the differences between disc and cartridges these days is that, i.e, cartridges can load a lot faster than disc because it's like loading something off a USB drive.
The data is all there without the need of a disc and therefore can load quite a bit faster. (Hence why I said faster loading times earlier)

Nintendo is recommending 32gb as being the standard size for their cartridges.
If that's the case, it's entirely possible for developers to choose a larger storage size if necessary.

Cartridges also don't have to be huge like they were in the old days, as notable in things such as SD cards.
(Also, that cartridge of BOTW is fake - it's a Game Boy cartridge and is just being used as an example, nothing more)

They didn't say that it was solely a portable console, as it's both. It acts a handheld console on the go, but can be hooked up to a TV from what I read.

It's also fairly possible that some Wii U games will get enhanced ports for the NX, as that has been a rumor that has been spread around a lot like these ones.
(And I doubt Nintendo would only port BOTW when they do still have a pretty decent lineup of old and new games on it that they could still make money off of)


Oooh, now I understand the concept of hybrid they're using. I can see your points on cartridges.

My problem is that many of the games that I want to play have low chances of being ported to the NX. For example: Sonic Lost World, Rayman Legends, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Skylanders: Giants/Swap Force/Trap Team/SuperChargers/Imaginators. You know, all the third-party ones/less successful ones. Imaginators was set to have a NX port, but it was never made because Toys for Bob don't have the developer kit for the console.

Maybe it' not that much of a problem for me to get the console of the last generation when it's successor is coming up... Again. No really, it happened with me on the Wii and on the DS. But I think it's not much problem. I just can't expect big online activity on games like Splatoon or Mario Kart 8.
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Bryman04 Gold Sparx Gems: 2116
#30 Posted: 01:46:40 27/07/2016
I'm feeling the same feelings that Crash10 has, I've been holding off on a Wii U because of the NX, and it is very unlikely that some of the games I want (he mentioned a few) will get a port. and the indie games? It'll be a while before we get a port of those.

But alas, at least Super Mario Galaxy 3.

Another thing, he pointed out that the cartridge looked fake, it just might be, considering someone made a joke pic of Zelda: BOTW being on a cassette.

[User Posted Image]

and here's the cartridge,

[User Posted Image]

Considering a joke pic about the cassette, how real is the cartridge?
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Bryman04 Gold Sparx Gems: 2116
#31 Posted: 01:57:17 27/07/2016
[User Posted Image]

except green
Rendar Platinum Sparx Gems: 7201
#32 Posted: 01:59:49 27/07/2016
Quote: Bryman04
I'm feeling the same feelings that Crash10 has, I've been holding off on a Wii U because of the NX, and it is very unlikely that some of the games I want (he mentioned a few) will get a port. and the indie games? It'll be a while before we get a port of those.

But alas, at least Super Mario Galaxy 3.

Another thing, he pointed out that the cartridge looked fake, it just might be, considering someone made a joke pic of Zelda: BOTW being on a cassette.

[User Posted Image]

and here's the cartridge,

[User Posted Image]

Considering a joke pic about the cassette, how real is the cartridge?


So yeah a cassette tape could actually hold it.

http://www.extremetech.com/com...-a-blu-ray-disc
Bryman04 Gold Sparx Gems: 2116
#33 Posted: 02:07:29 27/07/2016
Quote: Rendar
Quote: Bryman04
I'm feeling the same feelings that Crash10 has, I've been holding off on a Wii U because of the NX, and it is very unlikely that some of the games I want (he mentioned a few) will get a port. and the indie games? It'll be a while before we get a port of those.

But alas, at least Super Mario Galaxy 3.

Another thing, he pointed out that the cartridge looked fake, it just might be, considering someone made a joke pic of Zelda: BOTW being on a cassette.

[User Posted Image]

and here's the cartridge,

[User Posted Image]

Considering a joke pic about the cassette, how real is the cartridge?


So yeah a cassette tape could actually hold it.

http://www.extremetech.com/com...-a-blu-ray-disc


Mind.
Blown.

That is pretty neat.
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#34 Posted: 03:13:08 27/07/2016
looks cool
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#35 Posted: 04:39:51 27/07/2016
Oh, so it's a successor to the 3DS, not the Wii U?
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#36 Posted: 04:48:41 27/07/2016
Also, I would take any source that believes this is real with a grain of salt.
[User Posted Image]
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