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Pfft probably not. I do agree with his stance on feminism and gun control. Outside of that, I dont care.

You do realize without feminism you wouldn't have MANY basic rights? And that they fight for EQUALITY
Also Hunter Avallone hates transgender people, therefor he is trash.

Feminism isn't needed in the US anymore. So it makes sense that she wouldn't be a feminist.
Also, feminists don't fight for equality. Egalitarians do.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism
the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities

GG no re

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So you agree with EVERY word he says?

Pfft probably not. I do agree with his stance on feminism and gun control. Outside of that, I dont care.

You do realize without feminism you wouldn't have MANY basic rights? And that they fight for EQUALITY
Also Hunter Avallone hates transgender people, therefor he is trash.

Susan B Anothony rolled in her grave. Modern day feminism is not what she fought for. She wanted Men and Women to be seen as equals. Unlike these millennial morons, who want women to be the dominant sex. Don't tell me that this isn't true, because it is. I've seen women who want more rights than men because they simply have a vagina. I've seen women who want to be paid more than men because they just exist. I've seen women get MAD because they aren't represented properly in a video game. Did you know that feminism wants to have some of the constitutional rights revoked? Like the right to free speech. That is NOT equality. That misandry and it is very hypocritical of them.

Do NOT tell me that they stand for equality, do NOT tell me that I'm conservative trash for not liking them AND DO NOT TELL ME I DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY. This country is EQUAL weather you or your hate group likes it or not. You have the right to free speech. You who doesn't? Middle Eastern women. Some of them GET KILLED for saying NO to anything! Where's the feminism for them, huh? Oh yeah! *****ING ABOUT HOW MEN LOOK AT THEM FUNNY, AND HOW ALL MEN SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH BECAUSE OF THAT.

now if you exuse i gotta go calm down.

thank you and good day.

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Feminism isn't needed in the US anymore. So it makes sense that she wouldn't be a feminist.
Also, feminists don't fight for equality. Egalitarians do.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism
the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities

GG no re

The definition says one thing, the new wave of feminism says another.

It's still for equality, like it or not.

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Pfft probably not. I do agree with his stance on feminism and gun control. Outside of that, I dont care.

You do realize without feminism you wouldn't have MANY basic rights? And that they fight for EQUALITY
Also Hunter Avallone hates transgender people, therefor he is trash.

Susan B Anothony rolled in her grave. Modern day feminism is not what she fought for. She wanted Men and Women to be seen as equals. Unlike these millennial morons, who want women to be the dominant sex. Don't tell me that this isn't true, because it is. I've seen women who want more rights than men because they simply have a vagina. I've seen women who want to be paid more than men because they just exist. I've seen women get MAD because they aren't represented properly in a video game. Did you know that feminism wants to have some of the constitutional rights revoked? Like the right to free speech. That is NOT equality. That misandry and it is very hypocritical of them.

Do NOT tell me that they stand for equality, do NOT tell me that I'm conservative trash for not liking them AND DO NOT TELL ME I DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY. This country is EQUAL weather you or your hate group likes it or not. You have the right to free speech. You who doesn't? Middle Eastern women. Some of them GET KILLED for saying NO to anything! Where's the feminism for them, huh? Oh yeah! *****ING ABOUT HOW MEN LOOK AT THEM FUNNY, AND HOW ALL MEN SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH BECAUSE OF THAT.

now if you exuse i gotta go calm down.

thank you and good day.

This world is not equal yet, as a member of an oppressed group I can safely say that equality has NOT been reached.
All women, regardless of their race or religious beliefs should be treated just like a man is treated.

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism
the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities

GG no re

The definition says one thing, the new wave of feminism says another.

It's still for equality, like it or not.

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You do realize without feminism you wouldn't have MANY basic rights? And that they fight for EQUALITY
Also Hunter Avallone hates transgender people, therefor he is trash.

Susan B Anothony rolled in her grave. Modern day feminism is not what she fought for. She wanted Men and Women to be seen as equals. Unlike these millennial morons, who want women to be the dominant sex. Don't tell me that this isn't true, because it is. I've seen women who want more rights than men because they simply have a vagina. I've seen women who want to be paid more than men because they just exist. I've seen women get MAD because they aren't represented properly in a video game. Did you know that feminism wants to have some of the constitutional rights revoked? Like the right to free speech. That is NOT equality. That misandry and it is very hypocritical of them.

Do NOT tell me that they stand for equality, do NOT tell me that I'm conservative trash for not liking them AND DO NOT TELL ME I DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY. This country is EQUAL weather you or your hate group likes it or not. You have the right to free speech. You who doesn't? Middle Eastern women. Some of them GET KILLED for saying NO to anything! Where's the feminism for them, huh? Oh yeah! *****ING ABOUT HOW MEN LOOK AT THEM FUNNY, AND HOW ALL MEN SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH BECAUSE OF THAT.

now if you exuse i gotta go calm down.

thank you and good day.

This world is not equal yet, as a member of an oppressed group I can safely say that equality has NOT been reached.
All women, regardless of their race or religious beliefs should be treated just like a man is treated.

But that's what I'm saying. THEY DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL. They stand for whatever gives them the benefits. You might be "oppressed" because your trans or whatever, but women in this country have the same rights as men.

Get off of tumblr and go read an actual modern political history book. :)

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The definition says one thing, the new wave of feminism says another.

It's still for equality, like it or not.

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Susan B Anothony rolled in her grave. Modern day feminism is not what she fought for. She wanted Men and Women to be seen as equals. Unlike these millennial morons, who want women to be the dominant sex. Don't tell me that this isn't true, because it is. I've seen women who want more rights than men because they simply have a vagina. I've seen women who want to be paid more than men because they just exist. I've seen women get MAD because they aren't represented properly in a video game. Did you know that feminism wants to have some of the constitutional rights revoked? Like the right to free speech. That is NOT equality. That misandry and it is very hypocritical of them.

Do NOT tell me that they stand for equality, do NOT tell me that I'm conservative trash for not liking them AND DO NOT TELL ME I DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY. This country is EQUAL weather you or your hate group likes it or not. You have the right to free speech. You who doesn't? Middle Eastern women. Some of them GET KILLED for saying NO to anything! Where's the feminism for them, huh? Oh yeah! *****ING ABOUT HOW MEN LOOK AT THEM FUNNY, AND HOW ALL MEN SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH BECAUSE OF THAT.

now if you exuse i gotta go calm down.

thank you and good day.

This world is not equal yet, as a member of an oppressed group I can safely say that equality has NOT been reached.
All women, regardless of their race or religious beliefs should be treated just like a man is treated.

But that's what I'm saying. THEY DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL. They stand for whatever gives them the benefits. You might be "oppressed" because your trans or whatever, but women in this country have the same rights as men.

Get off of tumblr and go read an actual modern political history book.

You expect a response other than "you're wrong!"?


It's honestly like talking to a brick wall.

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It's still for equality, like it or not.


This world is not equal yet, as a member of an oppressed group I can safely say that equality has NOT been reached.
All women, regardless of their race or religious beliefs should be treated just like a man is treated.

But that's what I'm saying. THEY DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL. They stand for whatever gives them the benefits. You might be "oppressed" because your trans or whatever, but women in this country have the same rights as men.

Get off of tumblr and go read an actual modern political history book.

You expect a response other than "you're wrong!"?


It's honestly like talking to a brick wall.

-says i'm a brick wall
-completely ignores my points

your killing me kiddo

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism
the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities

GG no re

The definition says one thing, the new wave of feminism says another.

It's still for equality, like it or not.

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You do realize without feminism you wouldn't have MANY basic rights? And that they fight for EQUALITY
Also Hunter Avallone hates transgender people, therefor he is trash.

Susan B Anothony rolled in her grave. Modern day feminism is not what she fought for. She wanted Men and Women to be seen as equals. Unlike these millennial morons, who want women to be the dominant sex. Don't tell me that this isn't true, because it is. I've seen women who want more rights than men because they simply have a vagina. I've seen women who want to be paid more than men because they just exist. I've seen women get MAD because they aren't represented properly in a video game. Did you know that feminism wants to have some of the constitutional rights revoked? Like the right to free speech. That is NOT equality. That misandry and it is very hypocritical of them.

Do NOT tell me that they stand for equality, do NOT tell me that I'm conservative trash for not liking them AND DO NOT TELL ME I DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY. This country is EQUAL weather you or your hate group likes it or not. You have the right to free speech. You who doesn't? Middle Eastern women. Some of them GET KILLED for saying NO to anything! Where's the feminism for them, huh? Oh yeah! *****ING ABOUT HOW MEN LOOK AT THEM FUNNY, AND HOW ALL MEN SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH BECAUSE OF THAT.

now if you exuse i gotta go calm down.

thank you and good day.

This world is not equal yet, as a member of an oppressed group I can safely say that equality has NOT been reached.
All women, regardless of their race or religious beliefs should be treated just like a man is treated.

The world is equal in the first world countries in which a lot of these "feminists" are from

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The definition says one thing, the new wave of feminism says another.

It's still for equality, like it or not.

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Susan B Anothony rolled in her grave. Modern day feminism is not what she fought for. She wanted Men and Women to be seen as equals. Unlike these millennial morons, who want women to be the dominant sex. Don't tell me that this isn't true, because it is. I've seen women who want more rights than men because they simply have a vagina. I've seen women who want to be paid more than men because they just exist. I've seen women get MAD because they aren't represented properly in a video game. Did you know that feminism wants to have some of the constitutional rights revoked? Like the right to free speech. That is NOT equality. That misandry and it is very hypocritical of them.

Do NOT tell me that they stand for equality, do NOT tell me that I'm conservative trash for not liking them AND DO NOT TELL ME I DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY. This country is EQUAL weather you or your hate group likes it or not. You have the right to free speech. You who doesn't? Middle Eastern women. Some of them GET KILLED for saying NO to anything! Where's the feminism for them, huh? Oh yeah! *****ING ABOUT HOW MEN LOOK AT THEM FUNNY, AND HOW ALL MEN SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH BECAUSE OF THAT.

now if you exuse i gotta go calm down.

thank you and good day.

This world is not equal yet, as a member of an oppressed group I can safely say that equality has NOT been reached.
All women, regardless of their race or religious beliefs should be treated just like a man is treated.

But that's what I'm saying. THEY DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL. They stand for whatever gives them the benefits. You might be "oppressed" because your trans or whatever, but women in this country have the same rights as men.

Get off of tumblr and go read an actual modern political history book.

They stand for equality of ALL women.
And guess what? Some women can't even use the restroom without being assaulted.

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But that's what I'm saying. THEY DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL. They stand for whatever gives them the benefits. You might be "oppressed" because your trans or whatever, but women in this country have the same rights as men.

Get off of tumblr and go read an actual modern political history book.

You expect a response other than "you're wrong!"?


It's honestly like talking to a brick wall.

-says i'm a brick wall
-completely ignores my points

your killing me kiddo

I was talking about how talking to windumup is like a brick wall, because of this, and the pokemon thing, Windumup never listens to any counter points its just "no you're wrong".

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It's still for equality, like it or not.


This world is not equal yet, as a member of an oppressed group I can safely say that equality has NOT been reached.
All women, regardless of their race or religious beliefs should be treated just like a man is treated.

But that's what I'm saying. THEY DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL. They stand for whatever gives them the benefits. You might be "oppressed" because your trans or whatever, but women in this country have the same rights as men.

Get off of tumblr and go read an actual modern political history book.

They stand for equality of ALL women.
And guess what? Some women can't even use the restroom without being assaulted.

Okay. Let's play a game. Find me one way that women don't have equal constitutional rights. You have 10 minutes. Find me physical proof that women and trans genders don't have equal rights. Yes, I know that transgenders can't use the bathrooms they want too, but that's being worked on.

Ready? Set. Go.

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It's still for equality, like it or not.


This world is not equal yet, as a member of an oppressed group I can safely say that equality has NOT been reached.
All women, regardless of their race or religious beliefs should be treated just like a man is treated.

But that's what I'm saying. THEY DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL. They stand for whatever gives them the benefits. You might be "oppressed" because your trans or whatever, but women in this country have the same rights as men.

Get off of tumblr and go read an actual modern political history book. :)

They stand for equality of ALL women.
And guess what? Some women can't even use the restroom without being assaulted.

No SJW feminists attack people and want to be more in power with more benefits. Right now they are currently equal.

Also Feminism =/= Transgender agenda. Read a book about these issues and stay off of youtube and tumblr.

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But that's what I'm saying. THEY DO NOT STAND FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL. They stand for whatever gives them the benefits. You might be "oppressed" because your trans or whatever, but women in this country have the same rights as men.

Get off of tumblr and go read an actual modern political history book.

They stand for equality of ALL women.
And guess what? Some women can't even use the restroom without being assaulted.

Okay. Let's play a game. Find me one way that women don't have equal constitutional rights. You have 10 minutes. Find me physical proof that women and trans genders don't have equal rights. Yes, I know that transgenders can't use the bathrooms they want too, but that's being worked on.

Ready? Set. Go.

Even if it's being worked on, transgender people still don't have the right at the moment in every place in the world.
Oh and in some areas, some girls have to wear burkas

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They stand for equality of ALL women.
And guess what? Some women can't even use the restroom without being assaulted.

Okay. Let's play a game. Find me one way that women don't have equal constitutional rights. You have 10 minutes. Find me physical proof that women and trans genders don't have equal rights. Yes, I know that transgenders can't use the bathrooms they want too, but that's being worked on.

Ready? Set. Go.

Even if it's being worked on, transgender people still don't have the right at the moment in every place in the world.
Oh and in some areas, some girls have to wear burkas

Then go to those places and fight for them.

Define some places. Give me a source.

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this topic is ****

ugh accidentally quoted my own post

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someone please end MY suffering and shoot me

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I don't know how this topic turned into a debate about feminism but...

What I think is a massive problem is misandrists being confused with feminists. A big part of this is misandrists claiming to be feminists thus tainting the term 'feminism' and leading many to believe that feminism is about the superiority of women when it really isn't.

Feminism is the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the genders, it is in no way related to the superiority of women, it is simply the idea of both main genders being equal.

Misandry is the dislike of men thus is all about the superiority of women and not related to feminism in the slightest. The two couldn't be more different.

Had to edit a little bit, but you are correct

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I don't know how this topic turned into a debate about feminism but...

What I think is a massive problem is misandrists being confused with feminists. A big part of this is misandrists claiming to be feminists thus tainting the term 'feminism' and leading many to believe that feminism is about the superiority of women when it really isn't.

Feminism is the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes, it is in no way related to the superiority of women, it is simply the idea of both sexes being equal.

Misandry is the dislike of men thus is all about the superiority of women and not related to feminism in the slightest. The two couldn't be more different.

yes thank you ttd

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I don't know how this topic turned into a debate about feminism but...

What I think is a massive problem is misandrists being confused with feminists. A big part of this is misandrists claiming to be feminists thus tainting the term 'feminism' and leading many to believe that feminism is about the superiority of women when it really isn't.

Feminism is the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes, it is in no way related to the superiority of women, it is simply the idea of both sexes being equal.

Misandry is the dislike of men thus is all about the superiority of women and not related to feminism in the slightest. The two couldn't be more different.

I think this really is the big issue. Like obviously there are women choosing to call themselves feminists who in actual fact are misandrists and as such, are not feminists. But personally I've seen an awful lot of feminists in my time and I've never met a single one, whether in person or online, who thinks that women should be superior to men? Every single one I've seen has talked about legitimate issues faced not only by women but also by men, because obviously they also face problems and anyone advocating for equality can't ignore that. I mean this is just the way I see it but one of the reasons feminism is still known as feminism is because a lot of society does seem to have an issue with women. Maybe to some the issues may not be on the same scale as what feminism was originally intended for but that doesn't stop them being problems? By law yeah there may not be anything prohibiting women having the same rights as men but does that make them equal in terms of treatment by individuals? Evidently not. And might I also add that from my observations most of the problems and shaming that men receive are largely due to them possessing qualities that are seen as 'too feminine'. So I guess ultimately it's still kind of down to society having an issue with women. Just what I think though.

I didn't know me posting a video could have such an impact on a topic!

jesus christ ice dragoness what did you do

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Misandrists are feminists. You can't say someone isn't something that they identify as just because you don't agree with their actions, that makes no sense. If the definition of Feminism is to fight for equality, and misandrists believe that hating men is a step towards equality, they're feminists if they say they are. But regardless, feminism is a trash movement. "You believe in equality for the sexes so you're a feminist" Uh, no. "You believe in not abusing animals so you support PETA". See how ridiculous that sounds? Feminism has done so many detrimental things towards women and men, and third wave feminism in any first world country is highly unnecessary. Women are not oppressed in first world countries, that's not up for debate. Women are more likely to win custody battles, women face less time in jail than men do for the same crime, men get ripped apart during rape allegations before they're even proven guilty but men who make rape allegations towards women are laughed at and dismissed, the list goes on and on. I've never seen feminists in first world countries fight for anything other than meaningless stuff like not having "For Women" products be pink.

Also, feminism spews more hate towards women than any other activist group I've seen. Feminism tells me that I can't wear makeup because I'm just succumbing to societies expectations of women and thus, "setting women back". Feminism tells me that if I want to be a stay at home mom, I'm setting women back. If I'm proud of my body and I'm not overweight, I'm setting women back. Feminism is gross, Meninism is gross, MGTOW is super gross, Radfems are super gross. You don't need to label yourself to be a decent human being.

Side note, Onision and Leafy are both terrible but I actually like Leafy.

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I don't think the issue is if they are feminists or misandrists, is that they hijack the feminism name so everyone will white knight them for their great efforts in social justice(tm). Same as people who adopt X minority despite clearly not belonging to it, they just want to feel special and protected from the real world.

@TTD

Misandrists are feminists for the reason that I already said. I know exactly what misandry means. If a woman says that she believes women are so unequal to men and the only way she believes women will ever be equal to men is by hating men, she can still be a feminist. Radfems are feminists, terfs are feminists, entitled young adults who don't give a **** about third world countries are feminists. That's the great thing about a made up political movement, if you say you're a part of it, you can be.

And it wasn't the best example but I'm sure you could see the point I was trying to make. Feminism doesn't own equality. Dude I'm a woman, I love women and I love men, but I'm not a feminist. I believe in equality for the sexes, hell yeah that sounds great. But I'm not a feminist because just because I believe in similar things that feminists do doesn't mean that I have to be a feminist. How about this, if you support farmers then you're a nazi, because that's what they believed too. See how that doesn't make any sense? Nazis aren't the only people who supported farmers, they don't get to earn the sole right of supporting farmers. Feminism doesn't own the right to support women.
Also, third wave feminism has done nothing important for first world countries. Nada. Rape culture? Doesn't exist. Those statistics about college campus sexual assault you always hear? The 1 in 4 numbers? Both based off of extremely biased studies. And the two other things you linked are based more off of opinion than fact, so those are both irrelevant. You didn't touch on my points about women not being oppressed, probably because you know that they aren't. Not trying to be rude or anything like that, but society babies women too much now. We're too sensitive about everything. You can not support feminism and still not hate women despite what feminists tell you.

But I can tell you that feminism most certainly does say that. It's what they preach, it's what they've preached to me. Feminism says that catcalling and consensual drunk sex are in the same category as sexual assault, which is absolutely insane. There's just no need for it. If you want to call yourself a feminist and actually do something productive for the women who need it like women outside of first world countries, go right ahead. That's great. I would love to be able to help those women but I'm just not in a position to do so. But the majority of feminists don't care about those women because it doesn't fit their narrative of "Oh look at me I'm oppressed, stop what you're doing and pay attention to me specifically".

Imma jump in here and respond to you Bumblebunnii.

I don't think anybody's saying that these people aren't choosing to identify as feminists. But the thing is, the same way that basically all (to my knowledge) Christian bodies denounce the KKK as Christians despite their self labeling as Christians (yeah it seems an extreme and bizarre comparison but you did it so I shall do it also), most feminists don't recognize the type of people you've listed as actual feminists. Unfortunately there is no way to control who uses the label but I think this comes down to a bit of research, a bit of common sense and realizing those who actually stick to what the movement teaches and not letting the 'bad' ones dissuade you from the movement.

But if you believe in the things that feminism teaches, and the entire focus of feminism is equality, why wouldn't you want to call yourself a feminist? The Nazi comparison seems a bit far fetched because equality is basically all that feminism is about despite those that taint the name, the support of farmers by the Nazis was not what the party was founded on and was more to do with Hitler's obsession with the 1000 year Reich and having a hardworking society. It was quite a minor principal of theirs in comparison to the obsession with the Aryan race and discrimination against those who didn't fit it. So yeah that comparison doesn't really work. The Green Party also supports farmers and they're basically the opposite end of the political spectrum to Nazis so I don't get your point at all.
I'll talk a bit about your point on rape culture. Regardless of the legitimacy of various studies that have been conducted have a look at when allegations against men are made. More often than not the woman is blamed whether for her location, dress, what time she was out, whether she was alone, whether she was drunk etc and also there is an obvious refusal to believe allegations against most people, especially if it was committed by their partner because there seems to still (shockingly) be a belief that you can't be raped by a partner. The name has slipped my mind but that swimmer guy that raped that girl? The sentence he received for committing such an atrocity was way too light and you still neglect to see that there is a huge problem?
The definition (not that you seem to take much notice of them but hey ho I'll give it anyway) of oppression is 'prolonged cruel or unjust treatment'. Now obviously things have got waaaaay better for women. Like miles better. And I'm not here to deny that in first world countries we don't face the obviously much more severe and major problems faced by women in third world countries. Though saying that, and this isn't a selfish outlook though most people see it as such, other people having worse struggles does not mean you can't struggle yourself. Obviously I am hugely grateful to live in the society I do today, yet I recognize that there are still a lot of fundamental problems faced by women and girls even in first world countries. Whether you believe they're significant or not is up to you but slut shaming and the double standards related to that (men are celebrated for having loads of sex, women are shamed), the way that even now young girls are being told they can't succeed in sports or STEM subjects because of their gender, dress code issues in schools, while they may very well seem minor they still class as unjust. And also, I presume that when you say women aren't oppressed you're not counting black women, lesbians, bisexual women, trans women or disabled women, because for a lot of women of these groups that I've noticed (the only one I can personally attest to is about being bisexual because I am all the others are purely through observation and obviously it isn't for every single woman but it's widespread enough that it's a problem) there are other unique issues that they face that are also made worse because of their gender. Gender isn't the only factor at play. From what I can gather for you to become feminist and be in support of the movement some drastic atrocity would have to happen where women were being killed just for their gender or enslavement or a complete regression to the issues of the past would have to happen (though judging by your stance on black lives matter, I do question whether anything more severe actually would have an effect).

Does it? Where? Obviously every feminist I've seen is the wrong type of feminist because the pro-choice narrative goes for your career or your body positivity or your choice to wear makeup and this is all I've heard from other feminists so I don't know where you've heard that from. And I've never heard them be put in the same category either? Or at least at the same severity. Especially not consensual drunk sex. I think the deal with cat calling is that it's unwanted sexual comments sometimes leading to being inappropriately touched and so it counts as sexual harassment? Just my take on it. And how you can say most women don't care about women in third world countries I don't understand because again, on Instagram I follow a huge number of feminists and every single one always draws attention to issues in Africa and the Middle East and tries to take action to help, but unfortunately the practicalities often prevent us doing much. But to say the majority don't care seems a bit far fetched. And similarly I've found the majority of women who aren't feminists aren't because they think: "Oh I don't face oppression, therefore no women in first world countries can." See? The same selfish narrative.

Can I see proof of any of the claims that you made? Where are women told they can't succeed in the sports industry or the STEM field? Have you considered that maybe it's because... women... maybe just maybe... don't want to work in the STEM field? There's no sexism there, the numbers show that women just don't take as much interest in that area of work. Teachers are mostly female, is that due to bias against men? Where's the fight for men's rights at claiming that men are being oppressed because society tells them they can't teach? Oh.. Right. There are women in the STEM field because they want to be there, most women (going off of actual statistics here) do not. I've already stated in the BLM topic (that apparently you didn't read my points on either) that members of the LGBT community are oppressed. Women are not oppressed for being women, but women who are LGBT can be oppressed, just not for being women. So that point you just brought up makes no sense here.

I was about to say, oh I thought he was saggitarius but it doesn't like like the right time.

Onision more like Cancer Boy.

reminder that onision tried to start a cult once
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Lol, at the feminism debate! It's pretty ironic that you people are putting down a girl by forcing feminism down her throat. Perfect!