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Jarred Pullen just joined DeviantART [CLOSED]
Starlight_Shine Yellow Sparx Gems: 1088
#1 Posted: 00:40:35 05/04/2016 | Topic Creator
He's already gotten over 200 watchers and he's been really sweet to everyone's welcomes. smilie He's posted the Elemental Guardians already and put them into his own perspectives. It's really neat, it's worth checking out. Here's his page if anyone wants to follow him: http://that-spyro-guy.deviantart.com
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#2 Posted: 00:43:41 05/04/2016
That's pretty nice! Hopefully the fans won't drive him out of there, as we know it happened with fan artists before.
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#3 Posted: 00:46:25 05/04/2016 | Topic Creator
Well, so far he's been trying his best to respond to everyone's comments. smilie Everyone's been helping him out with the basics of DA and such. He's a really nice guy!
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#4 Posted: 01:45:14 05/04/2016
I'm going to Watch him. I hope nothing goes wrong...
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#5 Posted: 01:01:08 10/04/2016
yup...... hope the fandom isn't too rough for him. :I
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#6 Posted: 15:51:31 21/04/2016
Nobody is talking about this after the first week? C'mon.

He's been putting up a ton of character design notes he had for characters and concepts,but the big thing is the real name of the Convexity element - Aether. It seems like creating it was his pet project,and it's less of a hyper beam thingy and actually harnessing the essence of life that only Purple Dragons could control - with two facets,regular Aether and Dark Aether.
He also put up a ton of lore around the elements so if you want to fix your fanfics he pretty much describes how they should work in Krome LOS' universe.
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IsisStormDragon Platinum Sparx Gems: 7127
#7 Posted: 21:06:05 21/04/2016
Whoa whoa whoa, what we've often called Convexity is actually Aether?

my headcanon is real
cowpowa23 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4833
#8 Posted: 04:51:40 22/04/2016
All this new information is really great.

It's too bad the games didn't go into more detail themselves, though.
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#9 Posted: 17:58:52 24/04/2016
Wow, this is starting to bring back the magic ANB had when I first played it. And that part about "convexity" or "fury" actually being called Aether, and it being essentially the element of life, and it being different from Dark Aether... That certainly changes things. I never hated TLOS, in fact I enjoy the first 2 games quite a bit, but I definitely respect the series a whole ton more now. smilie
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fyra Platinum Sparx Gems: 6471
#10 Posted: 12:14:08 25/04/2016
And in my case I will need to adapt my ongoing but suspended for cegep reason,fanfic to add the new CANON elements that will now be added.
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#11 Posted: 03:14:08 26/04/2016
I'm loving all this information and artwork. <3
Aura24 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6561
#12 Posted: 03:13:06 28/04/2016
So, the Malefor we've seen is actually his Dark form when he embraced Dark Aether long ago. Unlike Dark Spyro, Malefor had gained full control over Dark Aether and didn't let it consume him, and was conscious the entire time. His distorted voice is what really gives his tainted nature away. Jared Pullen mentioned that he abandoned his 'true calling', which might explain his twisted views of his "destiny". He even said that it is possible for Malefor to be stripped of his Dark form and be returned to normal - http://comments.deviantart.com/62/3100208/4105724157
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"Soon all of Skylands will tremble at the awesome might of Malefor, the Undead Dragon King!"
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#13 Posted: 04:27:12 28/04/2016
Whoa. o:
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#14 Posted: 08:36:13 28/04/2016
So the distorted voice was always planned? Probably not to the point it's inaudible but it is standard for evil overlords.
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IsisStormDragon Platinum Sparx Gems: 7127
#15 Posted: 09:21:54 28/04/2016
Seems so.

I really hope it wasn't going to be as distorted as it ultimately turned out to be in the DotD we know and (not always) love today. Man, what a waste of Mark Hamill's voice talent that was...
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#16 Posted: 19:44:57 28/04/2016
So "Aether" is the official name for that attack that everyone used to just call the "Convexity" breath back in the day? Interesting to note.
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#17 Posted: 14:22:54 01/05/2016
This also reminds me of something from that older interivew with the excited LOS fan - Poison, Shadow and Fear are elements bestowed upon by a darker aspect of life,some sort of deity, in the series. Are they also aspects of Dark Aether?

...Would we fight Dark Aether in Darkest Hour and not just Malefor? I just made myself sad if that's true D:
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Aura24 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6561
#18 Posted: 16:43:38 01/05/2016
Jared always imagined a final, intense duel between Spyro and Dark Malefor. Aether vs Dark Aether.

"... in which their beams connected and one would push back the other. We got a taste of this at the close of DoTD so I was thrilled, but I wanted more drama and a lasting consequence for one of the combatants.."

http://comments.deviantart.com/62/3100208/4105749681
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"Soon all of Skylands will tremble at the awesome might of Malefor, the Undead Dragon King!"
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#19 Posted: 16:48:31 01/05/2016
Oh, thanks, thought we'd get something like a secret fight with the real deal with the wording.

Wish he was keeping those comments someplace easy to find, it's boring to read through page after page of comments and he randomly responds to a few.
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faunatic Yellow Sparx Gems: 1811
#20 Posted: 00:11:50 02/05/2016
is jared saying there is difference between spyro's aether breath and malefor's? that its possible to have a good aether? interesting.
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#21 Posted: 00:13:59 02/05/2016
Quote: faunatic
is jared saying there is difference between spyro's aether breath and malefor's? that its possible to have a good aether? interesting.


Pretty much,though instead of just Spyro, most purple dragons used normal Aether or got corrupted beyond recognition while Malefor learned to control it or something.
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#22 Posted: 00:27:24 02/05/2016
Regular, or Light, Aether is the powerful breath type Purple Dragons use when in critical times. It's the same kind of Aether Spyro used to defeat Cynder and restore her back to her normal form.

Dark Aether is the result of when the element itself is tainted, or its wielder, a Purple Dragon, is corrupted. The power, in turn, will try to control the corrupted Purple Dragon, much like what happened to Spyro near the end of TEN. It has power of an atom smasher; it dismantles a target at the atomic level, literally "unmaking" it.

As Dark Spyro, he couldn't stop himself from killing Gaul and nearly turning on Sparx and Cynder due to Dark Aether controlling his mind.


Malefor was able to keep Dark Aether from controlling his mind after he embraced its darkness, and he's able to fully control the element even after it tainted his physical appearance and altered his voice.
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"Soon all of Skylands will tremble at the awesome might of Malefor, the Undead Dragon King!"
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#23 Posted: 07:07:12 02/05/2016
This idea is cool and all (I love the further delving into the Convexity, or Aether element) ..... but I don't like how it is all stereotypical that "dark aether" is the bad form and "light aether" is the good form. Yeah, I get it, but ... really? I'm sick of this kind of symbolism in modern culture. :I
Still, it's nice Jared is sharing this with us, I like to hear his ideas. c:
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#24 Posted: 11:20:50 02/05/2016
Well the power never got named ingame, as Jared was discussing with someone, Nether as a fan suggested sounds much better or they'd have thought of something distinct if it was really such a big deal at Darkest Hour - but we know how that webt.
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faunatic Yellow Sparx Gems: 1811
#25 Posted: 02:22:30 03/05/2016
interesting and unsettling that "light" aether as seen in anb looks the same as "dark" aether. worse even. that looked like a horrible way to die for cynder, slow and painful, while gaul was gone in an instant.
Aura24 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6561
#26 Posted: 15:03:01 03/05/2016
The Aether ability fully addressed -

http://that-spyro-guy.devianta...ether-606709494
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"Soon all of Skylands will tremble at the awesome might of Malefor, the Undead Dragon King!"
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#27 Posted: 15:16:37 03/05/2016
Well, and in the comments, how do I put this... He says DoTD is respected and canon even if it didn't use the right terms? A bit contradictory there. Might be my dislike for that game but seriously, you can't compare was what used in ANB and TEN and the sheer level of LOTR-y stuff that the third game was filled with, replacing mood and lore entirely. It's like someone told me DmC is beloved by the original series creators and,yeah, no.

Wish he'd answer something on Skylanders Malefor though. David has no way to know whow much Mike took from LOS for him, and the people that ask Jared stuff frequently seem none the wiser about his appearance there.
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Aura24 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6561
#28 Posted: 15:38:30 03/05/2016
Jared's already seen SkyMalefor, and he's pleased. A while ago, I sent an email to him about Skylanders Malefor, and this was his response.

"It's somewhat surreal to see a character that you've loosely roughed out come to vivid and detailed life at the hand of another artist, especially so many years after Malefor's inception smilie Fico has done a stellar job too! That's one cracking artist smilie So gratefying to see the interest in Spyro and the characters from TLoS still burning brightly after so very long."
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#29 Posted: 15:49:33 03/05/2016
Oh, that's a little more reassuring, thanks :3
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#30 Posted: 15:49:40 03/05/2016
I think the acknowledgement of DotD is because what's published is published, and nothing a former artist/writer for the series can say will overwrite it. Fans have been developing their lore based on DotD as well as the Krome games, and he seems to want to make it clear that they don't have to throw away their creative work just because it isn't exactly what he had in mind for the series.

Anyway, since I never said anything earlier: this is really interesting! Ever since my revisit to TEN, I've been wishing there was more to say in Krome's version of the TLoS universe, and that's exactly what this is. Especially the information about Aether as an element. Convexity/Fury breath has always been mysterious and just there, so it's really cool to see an in-depth look at the concept from one of the people who came up with it.

Also, the whole Dark Malefor being in control thing reminds me of Dark Spyro's Skylanders backstory (that he's susceptible to The Darkness's influence, but has learned to control it). I know that TLoS and Skylanders aren't canonically related, but there are certainly parallels.
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#31 Posted: 22:06:43 03/05/2016
Aether has basically been everything I thought it was, right down to the name.

Well, almost everything. ^.^; I envisioned it as having three 'forms' (Light, Balanced, and Dark) instead of just Light and Dark like he's talking about. It's nice to see he's okay with fanon because I'm still not quite sure I want to give up my idea.. I'm incorporating what he's said to the best of my ability, though.

That aside, this information is fascinating and reading it makes me feel like a kid again (I was eleven when ANB came out).

Wasn't he going to draw a grown-up Spyro for someone? I'd love to see that when it's finished.
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Aura24 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6561
#32 Posted: 10:54:52 04/05/2016
Jared commented on one of Fico's SkyMalefor art -

http://comments.deviantart.com/4/38502379/4111171899

http://comments.deviantart.com/1/528483436/4119211312
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"Soon all of Skylands will tremble at the awesome might of Malefor, the Undead Dragon King!"
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#33 Posted: 23:19:42 04/05/2016 | Topic Creator
I think I can see what Jared is getting at with Malefor's corrupted Aether. I just now noticed in the final scene of DoTD where they have that fury battle, Malefor's kind of has a dark aura around it: [User Posted Image]

Best quality I could get, but I think you can still see it.
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#34 Posted: 03:44:26 08/05/2016
Yeah, I can see it fine! ^^
You can also tell with Malefor's aether attacks during the gameplay, like how he shoots out those dark rock things! Throughout the game, Spyro and Cynder's always have white in the middle of their aether attacks, unlike Malefor's black attacks. Haha.
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Aura24 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6561
#35 Posted: 07:27:27 12/05/2016
In ANB and TEN, Spyro was 2 meters??

http://comments.deviantart.com/1/602787192/4125692171
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#36 Posted: 08:38:03 12/05/2016
Might be the size of his model and not actual size. Would make sense to have big dragons but then Sparx would be impossible to see in the camera configuration.
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#37 Posted: 08:54:32 12/05/2016
Wow, totally did not see Spyro as two meters tall. I thought he was like, as big as a dog!
But Bifrost has a good point. I hope that it the explanation. o.o
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#38 Posted: 17:49:46 12/05/2016
Yeah, I think two metres is way too tall for Spyro. I also imagined him to be at max the height of a dog such as a Labrador, especially considering the fact that in proportion to Hunter in DotD (where apparently Spyro/Cynder grow in length but not in height, or so I think I've read somewhere before) this would make Hunter over 3 metres tall or something smilie which is a bit far-fetched to picture IRL.
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#39 Posted: 19:43:04 16/05/2016
Quote: Aura24
In ANB and TEN, Spyro was 2 meters??

http://comments.deviantart.com/1/602787192/4125692171


Probably referring to the in-game model.
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