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I need some help.

I'm hosting a Smash Bros Tournament at school, and I need some help on how exactly normal Smash Tournaments run. There is going to be roughly 8-16 Smash Bros players attending and I know how the basic tournament style goes, however is it any different in Smash Bros?

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I need some help.

I'm hosting a Smash Bros Tournament at school, and I need some help on how exactly normal Smash Tournaments run. There is going to be roughly 8-16 Smash Bros players attending and I know how the basic tournament style goes, however is it any different in Smash Bros?

Depending on the format you use, i.e. round robin, it shouldn't be that different.

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I need some help.

I'm hosting a Smash Bros Tournament at school, and I need some help on how exactly normal Smash Tournaments run. There is going to be roughly 8-16 Smash Bros players attending and I know how the basic tournament style goes, however is it any different in Smash Bros?

Most Smash tourneys are double elimination and 2 out of 3 games. :)

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Smash 4 got a new balance patch.

Sleep well sweet prince.

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>Not suggesting Hyrule Castle N64

But it's the best one.

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Sleep well sweet prince.

Why didn't that kill?

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Sleep well sweet prince.

Why didn't that kill?

because cloud nerf and mewtwo buff

After owning a Wii U for almost a year, I finally picked up a copy of Smash 4

This game has come quite a ways since launch.

^ I don't get it :/

Did they just nerf some of Sheik's range, but buffed Marth a bit in that shot?

If you guys didn't know, there was a new patch yesterday that nerfed every top tier character except for Rosalina (who was unchanged). This included Bayonetta and Cloud (though theirs weren't as significant).

It also buffed a lot of lower tiers, like Samus, Mewtwo, Zelda, and Ganondorf.

One of Sheik's nerfs was that her F-Air range was nerfed. In previous versions of the game, Sheik would be the one outranging Marth in that situation.

You can check the full patch notes here, or at least as far as has been discovered.

http://smashboards.com/threads...h-notes.433162/

i heard Cant luma not attack if rosalina is flying anymore? i heard she did get some nerfs

tho i guess its best to wait since so far it seems nothings been up on there about her.

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i heard Cant luma not attack if rosalina is flying anymore? i heard she did get some nerfs

tho i guess its best to wait since so far it seems nothings been up on there about her.

Rosalina hasn't been changed at all. Data miners are able to see at a glance what characters have seen changes (simply by looking at the "date updated" for the character's folder), it's pinpointing the specific changes for the changed characters that takes time.

People literally say "LUMA CAN'T ATTACK WHEN ROSALINA IS GRABBED/IN HITSTUN ANYMORE" every single patch, and it's never been true. It's literally the most recurring placebo in this community.

And it never will be true, because a loading screen tip informs you of this mechanic. They have never changed a mechanic that would require changing a loading screen tip, as they are really base level things about the characters. The Palutena's Guidance for Rosalina also references how Luma can attack while Rosalina is unable to, so it's far too integral to the game to change.

The only situations where Luma can't register inputs are when he is in tumble, Rosalina is caught by a command grab (basically grab specials, like Ganondorf's Side B), the brief instance where Rosalina is KO'd and Luma is still around, or when Yoshi grabs Rosalina. The last one is a bug though, as it randomly popped up in one of the more recent patches and it only happens with Yoshi's grab, for no real reason. Neither Yoshi or Rosalina had changes in their data specifically for said situation, so it's bug that wasn't done intentionally (it may not even be caused by changes to one or the other. I haven't checked to see if it's been fixed yet).

All 3 of the characters I'm actually remotely good with got nerfed ;~;

RIP Corrin, Cloud, and Robin

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i heard Cant luma not attack if rosalina is flying anymore? i heard she did get some nerfs

tho i guess its best to wait since so far it seems nothings been up on there about her.

Rosalina hasn't been changed at all. Data miners are able to see at a glance what characters have seen changes (simply by looking at the "date updated" for the character's folder), it's pinpointing the specific changes for the changed characters that takes time.

People literally say "LUMA CAN'T ATTACK WHEN ROSALINA IS GRABBED/IN HITSTUN ANYMORE" every single patch, and it's never been true. It's literally the most recurring placebo in this community.

And it never will be true, because a loading screen tip informs you of this mechanic. They have never changed a mechanic that would require changing a loading screen tip, as they are really base level things about the characters. The Palutena's Guidance for Rosalina also references how Luma can attack while Rosalina is unable to, so it's far too integral to the game to change.

The only situations where Luma can't register inputs are when he is in tumble, Rosalina is caught by a command grab (basically grab specials, like Ganondorf's Side , the brief instance where Rosalina is KO'd and Luma is still around, or when Yoshi grabs Rosalina. The last one is a bug though, as it randomly popped up in one of the more recent patches and it only happens with Yoshi's grab, for no real reason. Neither Yoshi or Rosalina had changes in their data specifically for said situation, so it's bug that wasn't done intentionally (it may not even be caused by changes to one or the other. I haven't checked to see if it's been fixed yet).

oh ok.

Samus likes doing it doggy style.

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If you guys didn't know, there was a new patch yesterday that nerfed every top tier character except for Rosalina (who was unchanged). This included Bayonetta and Cloud (though theirs weren't as significant).

It also buffed a lot of lower tiers, like Samus, Mewtwo, Zelda, and Ganondorf.

One of Sheik's nerfs was that her F-Air range was nerfed. In previous versions of the game, Sheik would be the one outranging Marth in that situation.

You can check the full patch notes here, or at least as far as has been discovered.

http://smashboards.com/threads...h-notes.433162/

Yay buffs for low tiers
Do you guys think that there will be more patches? And also who did this patch?

Mugo is right about Sheik now. She can no longer safely kill an opponent anymore which means that all you have to do to beat her at hug percents is to shield. Her grabs are awful now as you can just get out of her new down throw.

Well, I can officially say that my schools Smash Club is going to happen! I just finalised the details and things should start in about 3 weeks. I can't wait! So far we have confirmed 4 players, with about 3 getting the game before it starts. There will hopefully be a few random players that I don't know about, but I hope I get to start a school tournament. (BTW, I finally learned how to spinshot!)

How much are all the characters? I Don't have any DLC can I still buy them all?

I'm not exactly sure about how much they cost, but yeah, you can still buy them. They won't be taken off the eShop anything soon.

I believe it's $6 for Cloud, Ryu, & Bayonetta because they come with a stage as well and $5 for the others a piece.

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How much are all the characters? I Don't have any DLC can I still buy them all?

There's a bundle that comes with all the characters for around $35 for one console and $42 for both.

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How much are all the characters? I Don't have any DLC can I still buy them all?

$6 each for the characters Seiki mentioned at that price.
$5 for Corrin
$4 each for the others

Then there's bundles which are another matter. The official site has the details.

something my amiibo did.

Ok, so I'm far from the best smash player ever, but I'm trying to up my game a bit. Is there a good way to train spiking/meteor mashing? I'm specifically playing as Samus, and sometimes I can pull it off, but not always, and I want to get consistent.

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Ok, so I'm far from the best smash player ever, but I'm trying to up my game a bit. Is there a good way to train spiking/meteor mashing? I'm specifically playing as Samus, and sometimes I can pull it off, but not always, and I want to get consistent.

Stop going for a meteor every time you edge guard.

Ok then. Is there any specific scenarios when I should/shouldn't go for a meteor?

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Ok then. Is there any specific scenarios when I should/shouldn't go for a meteor?

I personally use meteors whenever I'm reading an up B which is when your opponent is unable to air dodge. Samus's D-Air will meteor around frames 19-21 which is about a 1/3rd of a second after the animation starts. So just go to practice mode and set your partner to a high percent and practice you D-Air timing until you are able to make your opponent jump after every hit.

Alright, thanks, I started against characters with big hitboxes, then started going smaller. I'm finding that characters with multiple jumps are hard to get in the right position to meteor.

smash club

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smash club

smash club

I mostly use Falco. But not online play.

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I mostly use Falco. But not online play.

1v1 me falco final destination no items

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I mostly use Falco. But not online play.

1v1 me falco final destination no items

you can't change tradition

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I mostly use Falco. But not online play.

1v1 me falco final destination no items

you can't change tradition

1v1 me samus warioware explosives only

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I mostly use Falco. But not online play.

1v1 me falco final destination no items

The only people who are good at FD are Fox and Martg. Nobody else. >:[

0-death on HIHD today <3

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0-death on HIHD today <3

RIP
Out of shield punish

Teach me Mesu.

Rayman is canonically a "thingamajig".

Not a human.

Or maybe we can stop giving him attention and ignore it?

For what it's worth, it's extremely likely that Smash Wii U/3DS are getting an NX port at the launch of the NX, that will likely have more content of some description.

The best character ever Bayo with a side of Cloud nerfs and Zard buffs. ^.^

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Anyway, about the Mii skins.

There's no harm in getting the costumes you like. Especially if you don't want any of the actual DLC and actually like using the Mii's, there's nothing I can say to stop you from getting a few. I bought the K. Rool costume myself and love how it looks.

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There's plenty of games with cartoon humans and non-humans.

Nintendo's flagship franchises are full of them.

And I don't know why you would complain about Rayman of all characters even if you think he is a human, as he would most definitely classify as a cartoon human if you have to look at him as a human (which he isn't).

I never said I was complaining about him, but I'm sorry, I do see him as a cartoon human. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm just saying I really can't see him as anything else.


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Anyway, about the Mii skins.

There's no harm in getting the costumes you like. Especially if you don't want any of the actual DLC and actually like using the Mii's, there's nothing I can say to stop you from getting a few. I bought the K. Rool costume myself and love how it looks.

I generally don't get ones that are based off actual characters, though I do admit to getting Isabelle, Flying Man and that black-knight dude.

Mugo, you've been arguing that Sheik is a terrible character, yet the strongest player in the world mains him.
Corrin may seem like a overly serious human, but remember, he/she is HALF DRAGON. At least Corrin is somewhat...to your tastes?
Bayonetta is human...but she is in no way "serious" and utterly and completely different compared to the Fire Emblem characters.

Yaaaaay can we stop now

Well, Sheik is not all that great a character anymore, because she got nerfed heavily last patch. Even ZeRo got salty.