darkSpyro

Crash ended with a horrible game and some mobile thingies that just shoved him into obscurity. If I was his creator(and IP holder obv), unfortunately the last thing I'd do would let him die like that. The question isn't 'omg it ended in X year let it die' it's 'is it worth salvaging' and unless you do it half-baked the answer is yes as long as it's a possibily. Say, Bubsy isn't worth salvaging(heck an attempt to revive him on Steam turned out to be super shady), these two are if you give a PROPER revival with true heart and quality. If the company just wants a quick nostalgia buck *quietly pushes Azure Striker Gunvolt into the table*, it's better to let it stay dead for another year.

Is it too late to post? I hope it's not too late to post.

The games aren't bad. In fact I think they serve their purpose. They're average, satisfactory games. Par for the course. Could be worse. Generically good. Decent enough.

But when you're asking me to spend over $100 on a new game plus enough figures or accessories to get the most fun out of it, I expect more than just an average game. I spent over $100 on the original game plus figures to play it with and I can't help but feel like that was money wasted on what turned out to be just an alright game to me (I don't even spend that much on games I often think are exceptional). And I'm just not up to do that again and again for each installment.

I saw the Giants starter pack for Wii U for $5 in a store once. That seems like a good enough deal for where I'd buy the game and some figures (also dirt cheap in the store; new too). But even then I just wonder if maybe my time is better spent on games I find better.

If you really want to win me over create a unique, new, fresh experience that feels slick and fantastic to play. From what I've seen the games haven't really done that and I feel as though if I play them I'll just find an average generic platformer that doesn't excel in anything and I'm sorry but that's not something I'd buy for even $20, let alone the total price it would be to get the game and enough figures to experience most of the game's content.

That's a pretty fine argument. I'd definately have turned away immediately if the gameplay was my only reason to play. It's good enough,and that's about it - partially because it's Diablo-lite, partially because Acti only gives both devs a year and a half to two years to work on the games and half is most likely spent on character designs and toy models. I play because of the combination of characters,lore, gameplay and other minor stuff - if you aren't getting invested it's really not going to keep you interested.
Can't and shouldn't convince you to spend over 60 bucks on something that should cost less than most AAA games for having such a small length,too. When a title in the franchise does make its value worth it, it'll be pretty obvious.

Like I hear Swap Force is where the series took a big turn into better platforming and looks a bit more fluid than the first two, but even then I don't really see a title that I would spend more than $30 on. And I imagine that even now over two years later I'll probably have to spend more than that for the full Swap Force experience. If it's cheaper though I may give it a spin.

I heard it's going for cheap especially on sales day(there's one going on TRU today but it's just B1G1 figures), and there's also the used figures on Gamestop, but in my opinion the story and writing of that game is too juvenile to be worth buying over other series. The others the writing is better,but the gameplay is lacking, though I really hope this isn't always the trade :I

It need a better story,not be that greedy,malefor and actual link or nods to the original games with the right colors Cynder is supposed to be black and red not purple and pink

Cynder will keep the same colors she always had in Skylanders since SSA, fyra. Purple and pink.

why did they do that it's offensive for small children or what

....What? How are purple and pink on a character offensive? Unless you want it to be offensive, colors you don't like on a character isn't considered that.

fyra was asking why they recolored her, wondering if the original colors were offensive.

Oh. I don't know why but the devs and the producers of the LoS decided to change her colors to purple and pink, it was their decision. Probably because EL had those colors when they did designed Cynder in Dawn of the Dragon. But black and red colors aren't offensive.

Probably because Undead used to be associated with dark purple in SSA(now it's greyscale with Dark taking that color). They need to have at least one Skylander among all that black and blue that matched the colors,after all.

Vathek was going to be that, until they made him a villain to add Cynder in.

Vathek is dark blue,though, and that seems more associated with Water since the get go :I

He was going to be Undead from the start.

I know that, I meant the thought process might've been something along the lines of 'well,if we'll replace with cynder,having another entirely black character aside from Hex and GR isn't going to match the undead colors, better see if she works purple'.

Well it's a great reason in that case

As someone who created and maintained the megathread of the first Skylander game at the time it was announced, the only Skylanders game that I played is Skylanders: Giants, which I bought on Black Friday as a starter pack long ago.

Finishing the game on normal difficulty and recalling my memories from that time, it was okay, a Diablo-lite as Bifrost mentioned, and there's not much platforming. I wasn't big on the figurine concept in terms of owning characters to play in the game, even though they look cool, as I find the figurines I got just a bonus visually. At one point, I wanted to get a set of dragon Skylanders, but that feeling passed on. I tried getting a dig with the story and lore from reading the scrolls and background stuff in the game, but it didn't engage with me as I wanted to. It just doesn't hold my interest.

If you guys want a cheap way for lore, there is the Mask of Power books and the comic series. The latter doesn't pick up until Issue 5 of the first season, but they're like 4 dollars digital, and a nice short read with some story and cool locales.

I read those the latter one but it make me want the exact kind of stories inside the comics who actually don't seem like toddlers stuff

Off-topic comment by the way.

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Crash ended with a horrible game and some mobile thingies that just shoved him into obscurity.

As I know, Mind Over Mutant was somewhat well-received. The majority of people find it better than Titans. The mobile games... I prefer not commenting.

Bring back an epic story and more focus on the lore

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Bring back an epic story and more focus on the lore

So....Skylanders? Especially Superchargers!

it's a racing game how it have a good story

Having a good story. Genre doesn't define writing.

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it's a racing game how it have a good story

Well, then your clearly your not doing your research about the game.

Anyway it's childish not epic so going back to ddo,nwo or anything else thanks

It's not childish aside from a few jokes. And I'd rather have a balance of funny and cool instead of wannabe LOTR like DOTD - and before you ask for classification, no, epic can also mean incredibly boring and trying to be more than it deserves.

Bifrost, it's obvious fyra will continue bashing Skylanders without doing any research or even try the game(s) just because it's not like the classics or Legends. Like most other classic/LoS Spyro fans who hate the game to the core.

Hey I did try giants but got stopped to finish it with the removal of the figures so I know what I talk about I just want a dragon series for older audiences,I have no problem with people who like it but for me it's not what I expected,I want a strongly build story,well fleshed characters,lots of exploration,presence of difficulty(anyone remember tree tops),interest to replay the game(maybe different paths or endings depending of your actions) and what we have right now have nothing of that.

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Hey I did try giants but got stopped to finish it with the removal of the figures so I know what I talk about I just want a dragon series for older audiences,I have no problem with people who like it but for me it's not what I expected,I want a strongly build story,well fleshed characters,lots of exploration,presence of difficulty(anyone remember tree tops),interest to replay the game(maybe different paths or endings depending of your actions) and what we have right now have nothing of that.

LoS was not that then.

I know but skylanders don't have that either

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I know but skylanders don't have that either

Skylanders has a pretty good story and lore. The characters are also somewhat fleshed out as well.

Well to say that did you ever read any book or are you too young to recognize what is a good story and what is marketing to children(something banned here in Canada) hiding under a shameless cash grab with basic plot and unfair use of names,Spyro was not even supposed to be in the game it was just a generic dragon that got a name change.

0 to Let's Insult the Other User's Intelligence in a single post. What a way to butcher, I mean present an argument.

I'll just help you with fact checking. Spyro was ALWAYS a character in the game,he was just an NPC in early development and your quest giver. He replaced Flame Dragon/Flavius when he became playable again.

Now I remember why I don't like the behavior of some Spyro fans who refuse to acccept change and are just plain ignorant.

I agree. I myself am a Classic Spyro fan, but I accept, no, even appreciate Skylanders for what it is. It's doing a good job of keeping Spyro alive, and also is a solid game in its own right!

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Well to say that did you ever read any book or are you too young to recognize what is a good story and what is marketing to children(something banned here in Canada) hiding under a shameless cash grab with basic plot and unfair use of names,Spyro was not even supposed to be in the game it was just a generic dragon that got a name change.

Well, I'm 20 years old and some of my favorite movies are How to Train Your Dragon 1 & 2, The Kung Fu Panda films, The Muppets, most Disney films, Ted, Cloud Atlas, the Star Wars films (Minus the prequels) and nearly ALL the Marvel films.


I think I know a good story when I see one honey

Im tired of you all I will stay with the french side of the fandom even though I m from québec,here there far less purists who only see anything that I explained badly(english is not my native language) and not any good arguments.I like both legends and classic and did like one of the game and the malefor arc in the comic and well I don't mind change if it still my kind.

Gameplay-wise, it just feels so uninspired. For me when I played Swap Force, it wasn't about exploration at all even though graphically it was great. It was just me mashing Square and Circle. Now you could say "in Spyro 1-3 all you do is charge and flame", but that's not true. It's just more fun in general. Plus you get to glide and really explore in those games.

Well, people do agree that Swap Force and Superchargers feel very meh when it comes to gameplay differences, because the plataforming is the same for everyone and those games have a lot of it; while the other three are very dungeon crawler and battling-heavy which the characters have their differences obvious.

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Well to say that did you ever read any book or are you too young to recognize what is a good story and what is marketing to children(something banned here in Canada) hiding under a shameless cash grab with basic plot and unfair use of names,Spyro was not even supposed to be in the game it was just a generic dragon that got a name change.

SC, has an extremely good plot, even if it is to focused on racing and it's one I'd certainly call"epic" and you want difficulty? Play Trap Teams final battle on nightmare mode and see how "easy" it really is.

Well I want difficulty even in the normal mode

I thought you said you were tired of us an leaving for another part of the fandom?

Is it me, or we talking to a LocoGuy #2? Because apparently fyra's doing a switch-back-and-forth sort of thing like he did, bashing Skylanders without researching it, starting drama, then suddenly goes and supports Skylanders. Then it repeats itself.

Who is that guy I'm not like that and I was not even aware that my infos were wrong and well I can't decide what to think anymore.i'm extremely sorry for what I said especially that part about leaving,I've been as bad as a fandumb because of me sticking to classic and legends and not accepting the existence of skylanders.

I don't dislike the games, they're just so expensive.

I would enjoy them more however if:

1. You could reach 100% with what comes in the box, without making the base game ludicrously huge or expensive.

2. There was a communal Skylanders bank so that I could upgrade my characters without having to grind with them. The way things are now, there's a huge disparity between my characters as there are some I used more and keep using as they are full level and some I rarely if ever use because they're so weak and it shows. As an after thought, they could use Moneybags as the banker!

3. You could revive the same Skylanders to make grinding easier. Maybe this could work by registering you Skylanders in game when you put them on the portal, then you revive them by taking a life from another Skylander. This would reduce the number of Skylanders you can use, meaning you would have to choose more wisely when changing characters.

4.This is kind of a nit pick, but I'd really like to see more old characters return. Among the best candidates for new Skylanders are (in my opinion and no order): Hunter, Elora, Bianca, Agent 9, Sheila, Bentley, Sgt Byrd, Sparx (as more than a power up), Ember, Flame, Ignitus, Volteer, Cyril. and
Terrador.