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I was referring to the comic which has them on the cover.
I think that's an issue which is reserved for those who preordered something (not sure but I do remember it's tied to some kind of promotion).

I'm not sure if that will be canon as well.
If they will be canon then I'll simply have to bring back my old critics towards them which were at least temporarily held back by the fact I considered them as being pure gameplay features.

We'll see.

Oh I wish the same!
Really loved this game and would like to play with you.

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No.
Skymiibos are not canon outside of what regards the Multiverse, until we are shown evidence of the opposite.

A cameo in a comic doesn't make them canon and really doesn't add anything to the fact they have been called to the Skylands to help fighting Kaos.
But, you know, it's cool having them starring in a comic just like it's cool having them playable on the Nintendo consoles.

Nothing more, as of now.

Regarding Rift Engines... Did Donkey Kong and Bowser used the same ones as Stealth Elf and Eruptor or are there more Engines per Element...?

Ahh yes the good old Drek. Doing anything to prove skymiibos are not canon.

ACCEPT IT.

I have no problem accepting it.
But please, show me some true evidence.

That cameo is the most plausible one we've had so far but it's just not enought for me yet.

Oh and proving they are fully included in the canon will simply make me hate the concept even more.
Separate dimensions for separate consoles?
Wii U being the ultimate version of the Skylands...?
Yeah, sure.

For the first time in the series I simply see "money" as the only answer.
And fanboysm too of course.

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Does it really matter? They probably won't serve a big role outside of their comic.

Hell, I don't even consider the comics canon (I know they officially are, I just don't like them so I ignore them).

They didn't serve to big of a role IN their comic.

Well,ignoring the comics as canon is having a headcanon... And this is getting meta so I won't go into it.

RIO isn't even that much other than bridging the gap between TT and SC. Return of the Dragon King was where it's at with the action and the characterization,and with the Malefor and Calliope Skystones,that's all the canon confirmation I need.

I don't care a lot about the Skymiibos either but really.. seriously.. they are canon. No use in trying to figure up some explanation for why they aren't canon, or the Wii U is a different "universe". ;>.>...

Some Nightfall gameplay at 11:30. Yes I'm looking for anything I can get,even if it's in german and the commentary is a bit too loud.

Her hair just seems to frequently glitch the heck out. Well,it's the price to pay for making an entire character's body part made of particles.

Her hair actually remember me of a Sea Shadow mod, the one with a green propeller and "tentacles"-like appendages at the end of it which could easily be dark matter as well.

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I don't care a lot about the Skymiibos either but really.. seriously.. they are canon. No use in trying to figure up some explanation for why they aren't canon, or the Wii U is a different "universe". ;>.>...

This!

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I don't care a lot about the Skymiibos either but really.. seriously.. they are canon. No use in trying to figure up some explanation for why they aren't canon, or the Wii U is a different "universe". ;>.>...

I see a pun in this post.

Sorry, Drek, Skymiibos are 100%, totally canon.

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Sorry, Drek, Skymiibos are 100%, totally canon.

Yeah, and the Wii U version is different because bananas.
And koopas.

I'll say it again, show me some evidence which isn't a cameo or a comic which might not be canon.
Then I'll believe you.
And I'll start complaining again for how stupid that idea is and how badly it was executed.

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Sorry, Drek, Skymiibos are 100%, totally canon.

Yeah, and the Wii U version is different because bananas.
And koopas.

I'll say it again, show me some evidence which isn't a cameo or a comic which might not be canon.
Then I'll believe you.
And I'll start complaining again for how stupid that idea is and how badly it was executed.

It's just like Marvels universes.

There's 2 Skylander universes at the least, the Nintendo and the normal version. The question I have, is the 3DS SSA and STT canon? You never see anything about Hecktor, in the Consol versions, and also the 3DS STT would make it seem as if the Traptainium shards were never sent to Earth...

Hektore dies at the end of SSA 3DS and Traptanium Shards were in console as well,just several meters bigger.

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Hektore dies at the end of SSA 3DS and Traptanium Shards were in console as well,just several meters bigger.

Yeah but he's never mentioned... Neither are the Shattered Isles in general. The only thing in the franchise that even references it is the presence of the shattering sigil on the SSA and SG portals.

And the shattering sigil itself just seems to be a letter anyway - you can see in the Land of the Undead Prision brochure and other things throught the franchise that it's part of the rune language. But it's probably because,being VV's veeeeery first venture into the franchise, they probably just let go of anything pre-SF including the OTHER faraway continent. Not that the continent had any useful lore anyway,nowadays people get Radiance from Lost Islands so it lost its purpose.

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Sorry, Drek, Skymiibos are 100%, totally canon.

Yeah, and the Wii U version is different because bananas.
And koopas.

I'll say it again, show me some evidence which isn't a cameo or a comic which might not be canon.
Then I'll believe you.
And I'll start complaining again for how stupid that idea is and how badly it was executed.

here's all the proof you need: they have backstories that fit into the canon. If they weren't canon, they wouldn't need to explain how or why they got into skylands, since they bothered to, therefore they must be canon! Because if they weren't, they wouldn't need to come up with half-baked excuses for them to COME to skylands, they would've left it unexplained, just like the Fire Emblem Characters in Agents of S.T.E.A.M., because you don't need to explain something if it never happened

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Sorry, Drek, Skymiibos are 100%, totally canon.

Yeah, and the Wii U version is different because bananas.
And koopas.

I'll say it again, show me some evidence which isn't a cameo or a comic which might not be canon.
Then I'll believe you.
And I'll start complaining again for how stupid that idea is and how badly it was executed.

here's all the proof you need: they have backstories that fit into the canon. If they weren't canon, they wouldn't need to explain how or why they got into skylands, since they bothered to, therefore they must be canon! Because if they weren't, they wouldn't need to come up with half-baked excuses for them to COME to skylands, they would've left it unexplained, just like the Fire Emblem Characters in Agents of S.T.E.A.M., because you don't need to explain something if it never happened

There was also a special comic book you got from gamestop or something that featured them. The comics, including that one, are all indeed 100% canon.

Comics are canon because they share the writer with the games(David confirmed it over twitter). The only things with questionable canon are the books, because of some backstory changes(even from Giants), and David implying Hex is much younger than what Mask of Power says.

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Sorry, Drek, Skymiibos are 100%, totally canon.

Yeah, and the Wii U version is different because bananas.
And koopas.

I'll say it again, show me some evidence which isn't a cameo or a comic which might not be canon.
Then I'll believe you.
And I'll start complaining again for how stupid that idea is and how badly it was executed.

here's all the proof you need: they have backstories that fit into the canon. If they weren't canon, they wouldn't need to explain how or why they got into skylands, since they bothered to, therefore they must be canon! Because if they weren't, they wouldn't need to come up with half-baked excuses for them to COME to skylands, they would've left it unexplained, just like the Fire Emblem Characters in Agents of S.T.E.A.M., because you don't need to explain something if it never happened

I agree, they perfectly fit the canon backstories-wise.
That cannot be denied.

Fine, they are canon.
And since they are canon I can finally say the are one of the (if not the) worst concepts this series has ever had.
And not only that, they have also been executed terribly and have only been born because of some childish fanboysm.

They are against the lore and what this franchise is under many points of view.
They could have simply left them as pure gameplay extras for Nintendo consoles but nooooo, of course if you are dealing with characters such as Bowser and Donkey Kong you have to make much more out of them...

I cannot wait to have PlayStation and XBOX exclusive guest stars inside future Starter Packs as well instead of brand new universal Skylanders!
It will be great to play as Kratos or Master Chief inside their own exclusive versions of the Skylands!

"Nintendo is where our fans are"...?
Then at least give them Spitfire instead of Stealth Elf n°36...

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Yeah, and the Wii U version is different because bananas.
And koopas.

I'll say it again, show me some evidence which isn't a cameo or a comic which might not be canon.
Then I'll believe you.
And I'll start complaining again for how stupid that idea is and how badly it was executed.

here's all the proof you need: they have backstories that fit into the canon. If they weren't canon, they wouldn't need to explain how or why they got into skylands, since they bothered to, therefore they must be canon! Because if they weren't, they wouldn't need to come up with half-baked excuses for them to COME to skylands, they would've left it unexplained, just like the Fire Emblem Characters in Agents of S.T.E.A.M., because you don't need to explain something if it never happened

I agree, they perfectly fit the canon backstories-wise.
That cannot be denied.

Fine, they are canon.
And since they are canon I can finally say the are one of the (if not the) worst concepts this series has ever had.
And not only that, they have also been executed terribly and have only been born because of some childish fanboysm.

They are against the lore and what this franchise is under many points of view.
They could have simply left them as pure gameplay extras for Nintendo consoles but nooooo, of course if you are dealing with characters such as Bowser and Donkey Kong you have to make much more out of them...

I cannot wait to have PlayStation and XBOX exclusive guest stars inside future Starter Packs as well instead of brand new universal Skylanders!
It will be great to play as Kratos or Master Chief inside their own exclusive versions of the Skylands!

"Nintendo is where our fans are"...?
Then at least give them Spitfire instead of Stealth Elf n°36...

Well a majority of Skylanders fans are on Nintendo consoles.

Yeah but their wording on interviews sounded like multiplataform was almost not worth it. Just look at the amount of PS4 players this year, and ironically for now Nightfall is only playable there. WiiU only for benefits still was a disservice to the rest.

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Yeah but their wording on interviews sounded like multiplataform was almost not worth it. Just look at the amount of PS4 players this year, and ironically for now Nightfall is only playable there. WiiU only for benefits still was a disservice to the rest.

This sudden Wii U love might be too little too late. Many Wii owners may have decided on a new platform, and given Wii U's lackluster start... <shrug>

It would tickle me pink if Skylanders primary hardware platform (from a sales perspective) could move off of the Nintendo platform.

Console favoritism aside,the WiiU love did wonders for the sales probably, but the fears seem to have come true with one look at known LPers trying out the game - they aren't here to stay, they're here for Bows and DK and won't even bat an eye even if they work next game. Sad that TFB will take the hit even if they do their marketing right and fair; while VV will stay the favorite even if the decision attracted right for the wrong reasons.

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Console favoritism aside,the WiiU love did wonders for the sales probably, but the fears seem to have come true with one look at known LPers trying out the game - they aren't here to stay, they're here for Bows and DK and won't even bat an eye even if they work next game. Sad that TFB will take the hit even if they do their marketing right and fair; while VV will stay the favorite even if the decision attracted right for the wrong reasons.

Yeah some people don't even care what this game is about as long as Bowser and Donkey Kong are in it.

And I also agree with the last part.
Something similar is already happening since I heard from some users it's TfB's fault if traps aren't fully supported in SuperChargers...
Really...?

Well, people agree TT had the best lineup less than they remember too many toys and Traptanium Gates. The marketing as well was pretty good, you'd actually check the official channel for random new stuff instead of scraps in events if you were lucky.

I'll cover that in my upcoming "review" but yeah, they indeed screwed up the collection/toys aspect this year.

Not only they took away and changed certain aspects (like cards or bases for example) but they also made bad distribution and packaging mistakes.
Too many types of Starter Packs containing exclusive figures and revamps packed along expansion pieces.

Trap Team was a great game but SuperChargers is objectively better under many aspects.
However it really fails when it comes to the other 50% of what makes this series what it is: toys.
And TfB did an outstanding job regarding that.

That's why I still prefer Trap Team as an overall Skylanders experience.

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Console favoritism aside,the WiiU love did wonders for the sales probably, but the fears seem to have come true with one look at known LPers trying out the game - they aren't here to stay, they're here for Bows and DK and won't even bat an eye even if they work next game. Sad that TFB will take the hit even if they do their marketing right and fair; while VV will stay the favorite even if the decision attracted right for the wrong reasons.

Yeah some people don't even care what this game is about as long as Bowser and Donkey Kong are in it.

And I also agree with the last part.
Something similar is already happening since I heard from some users it's TfB's fault if traps aren't fully supported in SuperChargers...
Really...?

I think we give the dev houses too much power. I'd think Activision would own a lot of these decisions. They're slapping the dev houses on a lot of things would be a sure bet.

I'm starting to think the same but still, it's certainly not TfB's fault, just like the removal of cards is most likely not V.V.'s.

But they are both decisions who influenced negatively on SuperChargers so I'm still not sure if V.V. truly couldn't have said nothing...

I don't get it, I understand you not wanting them to be canon, and using the fact that they're not playable on non-Nintendo systems as an explanation but really, we have no other reason to think otherwise, and saying they're not is just within your own little Headcanon

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I don't get it, I understand you not wanting them to be canon, and using the fact that they're not playable on non-Nintendo systems as an explanation but really, we have no other reason to think otherwise, and saying they're not is just within your own little Headcanon

There's really nothing to understand outside of the fact I accept them as canon and as something which goes against a lot of what this series is about.

I got it, they are canon but I still don't like the concept because saying those characters won't work on non-Nintendo consoles is obvious gameplay-wise but completely screws up the series in my opinion.
Is there a Nintendo version of the Skylands were all the guest stars can gather around when they have nothing else to do or what...?

V.V. has made an amazing work this time with both lore and plot yet they missed this "little and insignificant" detail.
No.
I'm firmly against that idea.
Other are obviously free to think what they want but this is my view of Skymiibos and potential future guest stars in general and if they'll all be canon, it won't change.

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I'm starting to think the same but still, it's certainly not TfB's fault, just like the removal of cards is most likely not V.V.'s.

But they are both decisions who influenced negatively on SuperChargers so I'm still not sure if V.V. truly couldn't have said nothing...

In my mind, this is all marketing.

• The decision to include Nintendo characters on Nintendo systems was based on the agreement between Activision and Nintendo. The videos make it sounds like VV did this by themselves, but I doubt it.
  
• The decision not to include cards.
  
• The decision to approve the gimmick.
  
• The decision on what to include in the starter, and who the reposes were.
  

All marketing decisions by Activision.

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Yeah, and the Wii U version is different because bananas.
And koopas.

I'll say it again, show me some evidence which isn't a cameo or a comic which might not be canon.
Then I'll believe you.
And I'll start complaining again for how stupid that idea is and how badly it was executed.

here's all the proof you need: they have backstories that fit into the canon. If they weren't canon, they wouldn't need to explain how or why they got into skylands, since they bothered to, therefore they must be canon! Because if they weren't, they wouldn't need to come up with half-baked excuses for them to COME to skylands, they would've left it unexplained, just like the Fire Emblem Characters in Agents of S.T.E.A.M., because you don't need to explain something if it never happened

There was also a special comic book you got from gamestop or something that featured them. The comics, including that one, are all indeed 100% canon.

Here's a link to the facebook page for the exclusive comic. Don;t know how you'd get it now which is a real shame.

https://www.facebook.com/GameS...0719553/?type=3

Wow i didn't know Skymiibo's are only playable on nintendo consoles


but as far as cannon goes there's alot of things that are unsure... least for me anyways....

like is it a new portal master (cannon wise) each game? does the portal master veiw all cutscenes? (cuz in giants you see the cut scene of Kaos and the map in the vault of screts level and that ghost retelling the skylander what he heard going on which was apparently the writers way to have the skylander to find out where to go next....so why couldn't the portal master tell them?)

how do you explain variants (aside from Dark and legendaries).... why were Spyro, Trigs, and Gilly in that shop.... when they clearly helped in S:SA


see so many questions.

though as for the rift engines..... unless there is an explaination officially.... based on the skylanders comic with bowser and DK.... its my understanding that the rift engines start elementless but gain one ( assuming they gain one) when they 'connect' with the skylander. why DK and Bowser were assigned an element and not just given a random one.... like they're vehicles are air and tech (granted to keep from fire getting an air and life getting a land for extra coding or what not.) but still.

Uh,sorry if I sound a bit mean, but please write a bit clearly, it's hard to read when your only punctuation is periods.

1.No,only one Portal Master, the player. Trap Team confirms they 'see' someone else's point of view by the cutscenes,because Kaos can follow your view after gaining power over the fourth wall.
2.Variants are like palette swaps of fighting game characters - not canon until said otherwise. Dark and Legendary variants are canon but are sort of 'super forms' for the Skylanders,and some other minor variants are just a strange coloring they got for a week or day(Love Potion Pop Fizz for example)
3.Read Rift into Overdrive, there's a video up on youtube. Rift Engines have their own elements, they just assign if the character isn't from Skylands, and it's just for the power transformation - if they need the vehicle to match or not doesn't matter.

I use Flitter Glimmer.

Thats all :3

Jk theres more but I forget.

I'm playing again, using Hot Streak and Spyro series 2.

And he look AWESOME in titan mode!

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I'm playing again, using Hot Streak and Spyro series 2.

And he look AWESOME in titan mode!

Spoiler Titan mode

What is it?

My Skystones deck is...



For the vehicle, I like Barrel Blaster, Hot Streak, and Burn-Cycle.

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I'm playing again, using Hot Streak and Spyro series 2.

And he look AWESOME in titan mode!

Spoiler Titan mode

What is it?

Titan mode is*Plot Spoilers*

I'm adding more mods today on my "All Vehicle Mods!" Topic. You can check it out

I think I processed enough to finally share my thoughts on this topic. Just finished Monstrous Isles and I really liked it. I loved tge idea of becoming a titan (now even Minis can feel big) as well as the lobster guy and the squid lady talking all 21th century like. (The only thing missing was a twerking troll) As for the emotional moment

Spoiler topic requires no tags :U

Ok, I just didn't want to take the risk.

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I think I processed enough to finally share my thoughts on this topic. Just finished Monstrous Isles and I really liked it. I loved tge idea of becoming a titan (now even Minis can feel big) as well as the lobster guy and the squid lady talking all 21th century like. (The only thing missing was a twerking troll) As for the emotional moment

Reveal Spoiler

It was pretty dramatic but I didn't tear up. I guess I just don't like Glumshanks enough. And after a minute we found out that he was alife after all.

Umm...sure...it doesn't make you cry anyway it's close to make you cry.

Did anyone else notice how slow the animation got in certain spots on Monstrous Isles? I'm XBO.