darkSpyro

With the release so close, I decided to make a thread about things that would ruin the game for you
I'll start:
1. If chompies went back to sounding like dog toys instead of rabid dogs...
Seriously, what was Vicarious Visions thinking in SWAP Force?
I'll add more to my list if I can think of them.

DRM...

Chompies are still dumb looking in Racing,don't worry.

-Plot going in a childish way like SF
-Not properly explain the connection to TT and expect everyone to buy Rift into Overdrive for it
-Some dumb abitrary drawback to using Instant Skylanders like not being able to open gates or save their upgrades
-Fake incompatibility in older portal usage even if the Giants portal has been proven to work with Swap Force skylanders by fans

-Slow as molasses old skylanders like SF

In general don't put SF's flaws back.I don't mean putting TT's flaws either,but we have confirmation that most aren't happening; I'm saying things that are uncertain.

If the emotional moment everyone's talking about, isn't...

@Bifrost



Also, uh, I guess the game not working or being really bad would be the only things that could ruin it for me.

Well, game breaking bugs now can be day-one patched.

Rufus. Gorm. Any VV characters besides Tessa or Sharpfin .
Also nerfed TfB characters. That really bugged me. They didn't really have a reason for it in SF but they did it anyway. I really hope Trap Masters aren't nerfed, I still wanna use my sweet sweet Enigma.

Any older skylanders getting nerfed even further
I hated that in TT.
Also, short story, childish story, all of that..

Basically what has already been said and bad balance between vehicle and regular gameplay.
I want to play as my Skylanders the most, they should always keep it in mind.

And also Skymiibos being fully part of the lore.
That wouldn't actually ruin the game itself but would indeed make me shake my head.

If ActiVision actually kills of a SkyLander in game. (Spyro)

Uh, Drek.

Skymiibos are completely canon. The comics confirm that.

Well, but part of the lore as 'DK and Bowser showing up in Skylands is a thing',but if it depends on Bowser,they're not there to stay.

If Drill-X does another dubstep song.

Nothing would really ruin the game for me except for terrible gameplay, a way too short story mode and little to no extra content.
But I trust VV on that, so far they have done a better job than TfB when it comes to gameplay and replay value, though TfB has better level designs, story/lore and bosses, in my opinion at least.
Characters being ridiculously nerfed would upset me quite a bit but I could deal with it.
I could also mention unskippable cutscenes and dialogues like with Rufus but it has already been confirmed you skip them.

The game's already ruined for me.

-Stupid vehicles
-Turning Skylanders into a Mario Kart clone
-Ugly/lame new characters(Spitfire and Fiesta are the only ones that look good.)
-NO SPYRO

Alright DeathBlade. Why are you in this forum again

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Alright DeathBlade. Why are you in this forum again

I post on a thread, and people don't want me here. Even though ALL I did this time was give my two cents on why SuperChargers was instantly ruined for me before it came out.

Opinions are the real route of all evil.

If a favourite character faces the same fate as the kaos trap or trail blazer...

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Uh, Drek.

Skymiibos are completely canon. The comics confirm that.

Except for them coming from another dimension.
Noooooothing else.

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Alright DeathBlade. Why are you in this forum again

I guess he still hopes for a better game, with the sixth entry.
He was just expressing his opinion which simply isn't the most popular around here, don't think it's a valid motivation to entirely leave a forum about a series he liked.

I'd have to admit I do not like the Vehicles aspect of this game, as I loathe racing games, but that wont drive me away. I'm in it this far and this long, I have to stick to it.

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I guess he still hopes for a better game, with the sixth entry.
He was just expressing his opinion which simply isn't the most popular around here, don't think it's a valid motivation to entirely leave a forum about a series he liked.

Thank you.

No problem.

Apparently it was legit to bash Trap Team but no one can do the same with SuperChargers...
Oh, well.
Opinions are opinions.

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I post on a thread, and people don't want me here. Even though ALL I did this time was give my two cents on why SuperChargers was instantly ruined for me before it came out.

Opinions are the real route of all evil.

Yeah how dare we question, we should all be exactly the same.

It was more out of seeing what you hate - we're just going to talk about SC here,and you don't like it. If you found this thread you were already looking through the rest,weren't you?
I stopped browsing SF board during the first months because I knew I wouldn't like what I see - it was just going to stress me out.

Wait,Kaos Trap and Trail Blazer? What do they have in common?

They became rare and hard to find, Bifrost.

But yeah, I specifically meant "Why are you in the Superchargers section if all you do is complain about it". Coulda worded it better.

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I guess he still hopes for a better game, with the sixth entry.
He was just expressing his opinion which simply isn't the most popular around here, don't think it's a valid motivation to entirely leave a forum about a series he liked.

Thank you.

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No problem.

Apparently it was legit to bash Trap Team but no one can do the same with SuperChargers...
Oh, well.
Opinions are opinions.

I agree we all should have our own opinions. Honestly I'm the exact opposite because I love the racing but the regular Skylanders gameplay seems overshadowed and with the exception of Spitfire, High Volt, Thrilipede and Astroblast the new characters are some of the weakest designed in the series. It honestly looks better than SSF but I'll take ANY other Skylanders game than this.

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I guess he still hopes for a better game, with the sixth entry.
He was just expressing his opinion which simply isn't the most popular around here, don't think it's a valid motivation to entirely leave a forum about a series he liked.

Thank you.

Quote: Drek95

No problem.

Apparently it was legit to bash Trap Team but no one can do the same with SuperChargers...
Oh, well.
Opinions are opinions.

I agree we all should have our own opinions. Honestly I'm the exact opposite because I love the racing but the regular Skylanders gameplay seems overshadowed and with the exception of Spitfire, High Volt, Thrilipede and Astroblast the new characters are some of the weakest designed in the series. It honestly looks better than SSF but I'll take ANY other Skylanders game than this.

Pretty much.

Definitely an improvement over SWAP Force but I'm sure this is one of those games I'll definitely have to try out to judge better.

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The game's already ruined for me.

-Turning Skylanders into a Mario Kart clone

If it were a full on clone then it would be all racing.....which it isn't.

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-NO SPYRO

Do all of his figures work? Yes? Ok so he is in the game.

Spyro will be the JDF of Skylanders wont he?(fully prepared for almost no one to get this joke.

Not getting it.

-Not enough onfoot sections
-Not enough enemies in-level

That's really it
I mean there are several other things that have been confirmed to not be true

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If the emotional moment everyone's talking about, isn't...

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a sacrifice. Honestly, the only time I teared up watching a movie, was when someone sacrificed himself... And no, it wasn't Titanic.

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If the emotional moment everyone's talking about, isn't...

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a sacrifice. Honestly, the only time I teared up watching a movie, was when someone sacrificed himself... And no, it wasn't Titanic.

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i almost cried when bing bong died. never forget.

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Hmm... Things that would break the deal for me... Weeellll... I've mostly been optimistic about this game, buuuuut...

-Levels wind up being as boring as Swap Force.
-This "emotional moment" they've talked about holds as much weight as Machine Ghost's death.
-Lack of replayability.

IDK other than that honestly. Like I said, I'm optimistic.

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Already tons of questionable stuff for me but the last straw would be no Survival Mode

Wait I forgot
What's survival mode?

I think he means arenas.

-No survival arenas/Kaos Doom Challenge/something similar
-Tons of unskippable dialogue
-The "emotional scene" very watered down and too kiddy


Though, overall, I'm not very worried about the game, it's already exceeded my expectations

This reminds me?
What's the point of making cutscenes unskippable on first playthrough, if you can switch that off?
Either make them fully skippable, or make people sit through it once... because if you can switch of the unskippability of dialogue manually, then it defeats the purpose of making them unskippable only the first time...
They want you to see what they worked hard on, whether you like it or not, at least once, that's the point of making them unskippable the first time around!
If you can turn off forced cutscenes, it defeats that purpose...
It's not like they make it unskippable every time you get to the cutscene with that enabled anyway... It needs to be one or the other, not both

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Chompies are still dumb looking in Racing,don't worry.

Umm... which design is the "dumb one"?
A few people ACTUALLY prefer SWAP Force's art style (I don't, one of MANY problems i had with the game), so just checking for clarity
Anyway, I'm not too concerned with how they LOOK, but they NEED to SOUND like vicious dogs like in TFB games, not their chew toys like in SWAP Force...

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Quote: Deja Vu

If the emotional moment everyone's talking about, isn't...

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a sacrifice. Honestly, the only time I teared up watching a movie, was when someone sacrificed himself... And no, it wasn't Titanic.

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i almost cried when bing bong died. never forget.

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#ICriErytim
I cried when team rocket made a "sacrifice" in Pokemon 2,000, course, i was 5, but... i rarely cry.... except when characters make sacrifices, or get killed...
I cried in YGO:Waking the Dragons when Yugi Muto sacrifices himself for Yami Yugi/, and when Joey does the same for Mai
I cried when Android 16 gave his life, and Goku (I must be the only person who doesn't like subs... seriously, Dragon Ball Z has TERRIBLE japanese voices, why would anyone want those over the dub? Half the male cast sounds female!)
I cried when Zelda sacrificed herself for midna, and when midna sacrificed herself for Link and Zelda in TP
I also cried in GX whenever someone was "Scattered to the stars" or w/e
I cried when Sora sacrificed himself in KH
I cried when Ansem got rekt in KHII
I cried during the fight and cutscene with Roxas in KHII:FM
I cried when Xion got Rekt in KH:358/2
I cried when Roxas got rekt (again) in KH:Re:C that "My... Summer Vacation" was crushing in Coded...
I nearly cried when Roxas spoke with Sora in KH3DDD
I cried when Burke sacrificed himself for Jett in Jett's story in Maplestory
I cried when the Demon (Slayer) found out his home was destroyed and his brother (allegedly) and his mother were killed by his employer...
Cried a bit more when i found out his brother was alive but was manipulated by the employer to work for him by tricking him into thinking that HE killed his mother and the only way to bring her back was to work for the guy so they could gain control of the Transcendent of Time who controls everyone's fate (in reality, nothing could bring her back, and she was killed by another minion), pitting brother against brother, and causing the kid to mutilate his own body to gain access to demonic powers (They're half demons, father was demonic, mother was human, Demon slayer had the body of a demon, his brother was born with the body of a human, which couldn't handle that kind of power) for the sake of that false promise...
I cried when the traitorous monk (ironically, he had a twin brother, one of them was named Benedict, but it wasn't the traitorous one!) sacrificed himself for Zero after finally realizing he was wrong in Zero's story in Maplestory
I cried when Shade sacrificed himself in Maplestory, and when he found out all his friends forgot him, one by one... He no longer exists... He didn't stop living, he stopped existing... As in, he never lived...
I cried when the player was on his deathbed at the end of Maplestory's Black Heaven content, sure he was obviously revived, so you can keep playing, but it was sad...
I cried when the android sacrificed his memories, etc... to save everyone in the Scrapyard after black heaven...
I cried a little when Machine ghost went offline...

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I think he means arenas.

I'm a girl. But I'm talking about the Survival from SF, which basically is Arena Battle. Doesn't need to be called Survival, of course, as long as it's a proper equivalent. Story mode won't satisfy my craving for classic-style combat.

Funny thing is: during Giants prerelease, I tried telling everyone Arena Challenges would be more like the Arenas in Neopets: The Darkest Faerie (citing the Altador Collosseum specifically), with rounds and such, than a proper "endless wave" survival mode... Where you fight til you drop
I was right
(I described it, then provided an example... the description was provided because it was a SUPER obscure game...)

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The game's already ruined for me.

-Stupid vehicles

Yeah, they did kinda change the dynamic of the series... But at least they [usually] look cool
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-Turning Skylanders into a Mario Kart clone

See above, minus the bit about looking cool, that's irrelevant to this point...
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-Ugly/lame new characters(Spitfire and Fiesta are the only ones that look good.)

Seriously?
Fiesta?
Yet not Stormblade and ESPECIALLY not Nightfall?
-insert obnoxious gif of hitting the desk laughing hysterically-
But Spitfire is cool, i'll agree with you
(he's the only [sorta] Dragon this time, so i HAVE to like him [well, except bowser {can't VV make a dragon that's NOT fire element? 3/3 dragons they've designed are fire, and all of them are only sorta-dragons... Newsflash: a lot of fantasy games have dragons that breathe OTHER elements INCLUDING THIS ONE }])

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-NO SPYRO

Yep, its a crying shame, he needed a new moveset more than the other 2 people in the trio... ironically, he's the only one of the three who DIDN'T get one *grumble grumble*
So, I agree with you on that last point, but it's not a dealbreaker...
After all, they at least gave him PROPER driving animations for vehicles! Despite the whole quadrapedal thing (which raises the question as to why he can't be a Supercharger once more , because they gave up their only excuse to not have him)
And he STILL stars in the Comics!
And you can STILL use the old Spyro figures!
(my army of Spyro includes: Series 1 Spyro, Series 1 Legendary Spyro. Series 1 Dark Spyro, Series 2 Spyro, Dark Mega Ram Spyro, and Eon's Elite Spyro... All I'm missing [as of now] is Mega Ram Spyro, and Series 1 Mini Spry, and overall Spyro series crossovers in my collection: Series 1 Cynder, Series 2 Cynder, and Sparx Dragonfly Magic Item, but excludes Phantom Cynder, and memorabillia wise, i have the Hardcover compilation of Return of the Dragon King, parts I, II, and III, as well as Champions [the legendary minicomic compilation], which glorifies Spyro...)
Hoping that Hunter or SOMEONE else eventually becomes a Skylander... or makes a cameo as an npc...
I don't care if he gets shafted even more than last year... As long as they consider the very MINIMUM exposure they should give him...
(someone said in an interview, that they're taking a break from Spyro content so it doesn't get overused... But there isn't enough of it for people TO get sick of it, except the people who didn't like him in Skylands to begin with!)
Vote Crash Bandicoot for Skylanders 6!
Vote Ripto or something for Skylanders 6 trappable villain!
Let's hope that Malefor "sooner than later" means he's fightable in this game rather than he returns in the comics...

A lot of people want him to be a Super Charger, but in the lore, shouldn't EE be the highest rank? Seriously how were they promoted from "strongest warriors in skylands" to "you can drive now"?

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In a word,yeah,highest honor is Elite, Superchargers is just novelty - but it's probably because people want to see him get a new fun moveset.

If they ever put Spyro back to the front again.

It's sad to see some of these comments. TT was broken as all get out as far as power level goes with over-powered and useless Skylanders running rampant. Why would you NOT want them to rebalance everyone like they did in Swap Force. Yeah it stinks when your personal favorite gets de-powered, but if they were your favorite because of how broken they were, these are things you need to expect as a possibility.

This game will be a lost cause for me (as well as the series) if they didn't rebalance the characters from last games power level debacle, if they force way too much of the game to be completed by the gimmicks (having to have trap masters and the right trap to capture, fine. Requiring trap masters for all the gates......pathetic.) if levels are lackluster (shouldn't be standard to go 5+ minutes without seeing enemies and having elemental gates that are smaller then a studio apartment on the other side) or just signs in general that they are focusing more on ways to ensure you spend 100s on charcaters instead of ensuring they've created a solid game that will get you to naturally want to purchase extra figures.

Rebancing is different from 'play as new guys or do an excercise in frustration'. I PAID for each and every one of these guys, I want to have fun with all 20 of them. If they were all on the same level of balance and usefulness it'd be fine, but with this huge cast it ain't happening.

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Rebancing is different from 'play as new guys or do an excercise in frustration'. I PAID for each and every one of these guys, I want to have fun with all 20 of them. If they were all on the same level of balance and usefulness it'd be fine, but with this huge cast it ain't happening.

The problem comes with folks thinking their broken Trap Masters need to stay broken as some have requested. Like you said, we've paid for all these guys as individual figures, there needs to be attempts. As long as there is effort, most will be happy. You can't overreact when your favorite character gets the nerf bat when the reason he was ones favorite was because he was overpowered.

A good nerf is fine. Making them do 30 damage less(when the average is looking like 60 damage being a lot) and be half as fast as the new guy isn't a good nerf.

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The game's already ruined for me.

-Stupid vehicles
-Turning Skylanders into a Mario Kart clone
-Ugly/lame new characters(Spitfire and Fiesta are the only ones that look good.)
-NO SPYRO

i agree on this one... and i will add this to it...

-Game breaking bugs for a 2000 dollar game, at a price point like that i expect a finished product and no need for bug fix patches.

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Quote: DeathBlade

The game's already ruined for me.

-Stupid vehicles
-Turning Skylanders into a Mario Kart clone
-Ugly/lame new characters(Spitfire and Fiesta are the only ones that look good.)
-NO SPYRO

i agree on this one... and i will add this to it...

-Game breaking bugs for a 2000 dollar game, at a price point like that i expect a finished product and no need for bug fix patches.

What "game breaking glitch" are you talking about?

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RiO spoiler oh fun RiO spoilers:

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Rift Engines only give a transformation. I'd be like saying your usual fantasy cast in a fantasy world needs also to have superhero alter-egos.

In a word,yeah,highest honor is Elite, Superchargers is just novelty - but it's probably because people want to see him get a new fun moveset.

Ah, yeah I can understand that.

I just don't want to have the problem I had with Trap Team: every element of trap and Trapper required. That ruined it for me. I loved Swap Force, so I've got high hopes. Just generally having to buy everything though would be crushing.