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Guest Stars in Skylanders 6
Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#51 Posted: 22:12:14 25/07/2015
It's a problem, a BIG one.
As of now it's only an annoying thing but it might become much much worse.

And the lore isn't questioned because of their presence but because they don't work on all the consoles.
Do Donkey Kong and Bowser prefer Nintendo "connected" Portals or what...?
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#52 Posted: 22:34:29 25/07/2015
Quote: Drek95
It's a problem, a BIG one.
As of now it's only an annoying thing but it might become much much worse.

And the lore isn't questioned because of their presence but because they don't work on all the consoles.
Do Donkey Kong and Bowser prefer Nintendo "connected" Portals or what...?



what if they explain it with something like this: due to them coming from a different dimension they decided until needed in battle they would stay in there own dimension therefore with master eon not having enough power to summon them again they can only be summoned from the most powerful of portals those belong to... the nintendo portal masters!!!
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#53 Posted: 02:01:05 26/07/2015
Or maybe the Nintendo versions and the PS/XB versions are in slightly different universes. Just as how each save file is in a slightly different universe than another. I mean in one save file I might have beaten the game using just Spyro, whereas in another save file I might have beaten the game using a bunch of other characters. Both sets of events couldn't have happened in the same universe, so obviously they are separate.

Basically the same principle that applies to the differences between save files also applies to the differences between console versions.
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#54 Posted: 04:14:07 26/07/2015
Also isn't nintendo the top selling starter?
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#55 Posted: 05:03:31 26/07/2015
I still want Waluigi
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#56 Posted: 06:05:40 26/07/2015
OMG what about star fox
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#57 Posted: 11:24:46 26/07/2015
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Aside from naming more Nintendo characters, I would love to see the return of four old friends of Spyro from YotD.

  • Sheila the Kangaroo (Life)
  • Sgt. Byrd (Air)
  • Bentley (Earth)
  • Agent 9 (Tech)

I could definitely see those fitting very well into the Skylanders game and those elements are somewhat spot on.
Just to stay relevant with Nintendo characters, Kirby or Yoshi would totally be great to see.



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#58 Posted: 15:39:38 26/07/2015
I think Bentley should be Water element due to him being from a snowy climate and because his signature weapon is an ice club. Sheila should be Earth element since she's a mountain kangaroo who lives in mountainous area, and they could give her a stomp attack with which she creates earthquakes.
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#59 Posted: 21:26:17 26/07/2015
Agree with Muffin Man.
I think Sgt. Byrd should be Tech for the same reasons (weapons and other technologic gadgets).

I would also like to see the following legacy characters:
Elora and Hunter (Life);
Bianca (Magic);
Professor (Tech);
Zoe (Air even if Magic could go as well).
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#60 Posted: 13:03:34 11/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
Agree with Muffin Man.
I think Sgt. Byrd should be Tech for the same reasons (weapons and other technologic gadgets).

I would also like to see the following legacy characters:
Elora and Hunter (Life);
Bianca (Magic);
Professor (Tech);
Zoe (Air even if Magic could go as well).


You know the whole "hoping bowser and DK aren't even PLAYABLE in Sky 6" sentiment contradicts the sentiment of the second line of your sig. Want to know what's more important than ensuring they support all consoles? Ensuring continued support on future generations! They go out of their way to make sure game pieces which had their original function made irrelevant had new ones (volcanic vault and traps come to mind) I don't think worrying about "if they made console exclusives once, they will do it again even worse" is not hypocrisy at its best when you're PRAYING for, not worrying ABOUT, the FAR more disgusting idea that "if they could throw away one core facet of the series, they could do it with MORE of them", they could take away EVERYTHING that makes Skylanders special, and you're worried that they'll just take MORE of that ONE thing they've already taken away, at the cost of hoping for a far GREATER calamity without even realizing it.

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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#61 Posted: 13:48:49 11/08/2015
Ok, listen.

Spyro and Cynder are Skylanders, right?
Did I ever complained about them?
No.

Want to know why?
Because they belong to the Skylands now.
Their looks changed to better fit the general feel of the series and they got backstories and other features.

Would I like if the same could happen to the characters I mentioned?
Sure!

Bowser and Donkey Kong are not Skylanders.
They are temporarily playable helpers which received new outfits and upgrades.
Outside of that they are exactly the same characters you can find on any of their most recent games.

The characters I mentioned would become regular Skylanders not console exclusives.
Because that's what the Skymiibos are.
They are not Skylanders, they are Amiibos which are also playable in SuperChargers and only on Nintendo consoles.
And ONLY because V.V. are huge Nintendo fanboys.

You like them?
Great for you!
To me they are just a side feature which will hopefully be forgotten soon.
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#62 Posted: 15:57:02 11/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
To me they are just a side feature which will hopefully be forgotten soon.


If the Wii U/Wii/3DS versions sell well (And trust me, they will) I highly doubt this will be the last time we see Skymiibos. In the next game, don't be surprised if we end up getting ten of them.
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#63 Posted: 16:14:41 11/08/2015
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Quote: Drek95
To me they are just a side feature which will hopefully be forgotten soon.


If the Wii U/Wii/3DS versions sell well (And trust me, they will) I highly doubt this will be the last time we see Skymiibos. In the next game, don't be surprised if we end up getting ten of them.


I wouldn't say that many. Most likely just another two. Any more and it'd just be overwhelming.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#64 Posted: 20:58:13 11/08/2015
10 might be a bit too much... But again, I would take "guest stars" over revamps any time.
Just... Not the way they did with the two Skymiibos.

No console exclusives, new looks (I mean like Spyro and Cynder, not simply new outfits and weapons) and compelling backstories
Maybe a catchphrase too but only if the character can talk.

But please do not treat them like you did with Bowser and Donkey Kong.
Make them true Skylanders or don't touch them at all.
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#65 Posted: 21:24:45 11/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
Maybe a catchphrase too but only if the character can talk.


Bowser cannot talk. Well he can, but he doesn't have a recurring voice actor. Unless you want his catchphrase being about his family vacation, that is.
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#66 Posted: 21:32:09 11/08/2015
That's why I said it.

They choosed right bu not making Bowser and Donkey Kong talk.
Same should happen if they decided to create Skylanders out of characters such as Kirby, Link or Mario, for example.

They all can somehow "talk" but they don't do it often.
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#67 Posted: 21:51:58 11/08/2015
Just gonn point out you're being pretty contradictory with your complaints. So, you want guest star characters to have new designs like Spyro and Cynder (AKA Heavily changed), and have new backstories... But you also want them to stay true to the original characters? I don't think doing that would work at all.
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#68 Posted: 21:59:10 11/08/2015
It worked with Cynder and Spyro. In fact, Cynder got fixed from her angsty self in DOTD with the rewrite.
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#69 Posted: 22:02:45 11/08/2015
Quote: Bifrost
It worked with Cynder and Spyro. In fact, Cynder got fixed from her angsty self in DOTD with the rewrite.


The difference here is that Spyro and Cynder aren't some of the most famous characters in video game history. It's mostly a marketing thing anyway, people familiar with franchises like Donkey Kong and Mario are more likely to get characters that, you know, resemble the characters from those franchises, rather than a completely new gorilla character that's just named Donkey Kong.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#70 Posted: 22:57:43 11/08/2015
Don't see where I would be contradicting myself.

"Skylander-ify" them or nothing.
Characters which have simply been slapped on this game with new outfits can not be on the same level of characters which actually got a new look which still make them recognizable.
Think about a Grilla Drilla-like Skylander with Donkey Kong signature features for example.

Both Bowser and Donkey Kong went trough plenty of re-designs... Don't see how another one would hurt.
Would also make them more valuable as Amiibos instead of having the exact same character with a different armor/suit and pose.

Think about Link and Toon Link.
That's what I'm talking about.

If it worked for Spyro (which I guarantee you is one of the most iconic PlayStation characters) it can work for them too.
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#71 Posted: 23:34:24 11/08/2015
Quote: Drek95

If it worked for Spyro (which I guarantee you is one of the most iconic PlayStation characters) it can work for them too.


You are aware of the massive negative backlash Spyro's redesign received from Spyro fans, right? Go to practically any video that Skylanders Spyro appears in and even nowadays you'll still find youtube comment sections filled with people *****ing and moaning about how Spyro looks. Hell if I were to start a topic involving Skylanders Spyro over in one of the non-Skylanders sections of this very forum it would probably be met with complaints about his design.


Spyro's redesign only "worked" in that the target audience of Skylanders was too young to care about it. It did nothing to help attract Spyro fans to the Skylanders franchise. And the whole purpose of guest characters is to help attract non-Skylanders fans to the Skylanders franchise.
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#72 Posted: 23:38:46 11/08/2015
Not really, people complained about his LOS design a ton as well, especially since ANB/TEN Spyro is visibly pudgier. Just like Sonic fandom and blue arms/green eyes, our fandom can't be pleased, trying is pointless. If they probably kept him entirely the same and just made his horns bigger, people would be complaining about that - OR, complaining that it isn't LOS, or that it isn't DOTD, etc etc. They just want to find a reason to hate the reboot, physical DLC, short snout and early texture screenshot just fueled the fire.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#73 Posted: 00:09:13 12/08/2015
Then let the haters hate.
Those are nonsensical complaints.

You don't like the redesign?
Then don't buy the figure.

Want to play with the classic character?
Then play with its own game.

Skylanders IS Skylanders not a place where you can put all the characters you want just because it happens to be a connection point in the Multiverse.
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#74 Posted: 00:18:22 12/08/2015
It's not like they plucked the models from Smash Bros, they're specifically redesigned to fit into the Skylanders universe, it's not just outfits.

Have you actually compared them? Donkey Kong is significantly different looking from any of his actual games.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#75 Posted: 00:26:23 12/08/2015
I don't see that much difference.

Again look at the different Links.
Or simply look at the Spyros.

Bowser look identical to his Wii-Wii U incarnations and Donkey Kong look just a bit different (but maybe it's simply the suit and animations).
Nothing which makes them feel like they are part of the Skylands now.
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#76 Posted: 00:40:39 12/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
Bowser look identical to his Wii-Wii U incarnations and Donkey Kong look just a bit different (but maybe it's simply the suit and animations).
Nothing which makes them feel like they are part of the Skylands now.


I think they fit in just fine as they are. They don't need major redesigns, the new suits and weapons are good enough.
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#77 Posted: 01:38:32 12/08/2015
Quote: Bifrost
Not really, people complained about his LOS design a ton as well, especially since ANB/TEN Spyro is visibly pudgier. Just like Sonic fandom and blue arms/green eyes, our fandom can't be pleased, trying is pointless. If they probably kept him entirely the same and just made his horns bigger, people would be complaining about that - OR, complaining that it isn't LOS, or that it isn't DOTD, etc etc. They just want to find a reason to hate the reboot, physical DLC, short snout and early texture screenshot just fueled the fire.



My point is that a drastic redesign of DK and Bowser would've probably gotten a similar reception. Whereas currently Nintendo fans have been reacting extremely positively to DK and Bowser in Skylanders specifically because of how faithful they are to their original series.
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#78 Posted: 02:06:27 12/08/2015
Is there even going to be a 6?

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#79 Posted: 02:12:55 12/08/2015
Is the series still making tons of money? Then yes, yes there will be a Sky6.
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#80 Posted: 02:21:58 12/08/2015
historically, yes. I'd argue things chilled off substantially in #4, but they're obfuscating the numbers by communicating total sales. I've yet to hear a comparison of #4 to #3, but I know it would be less, if starter sales are any indication. I know damn well they know the numbers, but they aren't telling. 80 characters down to 20...you have to say that's a humongous change. Apparently there can be too much of a good thing. Trap Team is still off previous game sales by 1.6 million units. Every game previous to Trap Team sold ~5.2 million....Trap Team is only at ~3.6 million.

Don't be an ostrich with your head in the sand. They gave us more, we bought less, now they are making MUCH LESS. If unit sales drops by the same amount in SC I'd argue for NO sky 6.
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#81 Posted: 02:35:26 12/08/2015
Sky 6 is definitely happening though. It's like the Wii, the first couple installments gave them enough money for awhile.
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#82 Posted: 02:38:14 12/08/2015
Maybe, maybe not. They may make a change and decide to deliver the game every OTHER year, keep the best developer...etc. #6 is almost a sure thing, but the stark contrast of unit sales is a concern for me personally, and the build up of this game hasn't really been up to the level of the previous games. I do however think VV will probably help repair some damage done in TT...my .02.
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#83 Posted: 02:39:50 12/08/2015
Honestly I want Gamefreak Skymiibos with Charizard and Blastoise
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#84 Posted: 02:41:11 12/08/2015
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Honestly I want Gamefreak Skymiibos with Charizard and Blastoise


...And this is the other concern...I think the Nintendo tie ins weaken the skylanders brand. It may be cool, but I guess I'm a purist.
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#85 Posted: 02:47:18 12/08/2015
I actually have a friend who's considering getting Superchargers because of Donkey Kong, so it's at least appealing to an broader audience somewhat now.
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#86 Posted: 03:59:58 12/08/2015
Tons of people are hopping aboard the Skylanders train because of DK and Bowser. Heck look at all the youtube channels like GameXplain and Black Nerd Comedy that are suddenly covering Skylanders because of DK and Bowser.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#87 Posted: 06:12:09 12/08/2015
That's another thing which I sincerely can't understand.

I've said it another time.
If you jump on a Skylanders game because of Bowser and Donkey Kong... I sincerely don't even know what to say.
Really... I had a clear view of this game a couple months ago... Now it just seems like a bunch of random ideas thrown toghether (many are great but some are... Meh).
"Vehicles are cool, Skymiibos are cool, revamped gimmicklanders are cool!".

You know what?
Skylanders doesn't have to be cool to be great.
It should feel magical, whimsical and misterious... And now it's simply starting to feel like a racing-action game like a tons outside there.

I like this game, I really like it... But to me the basic idea is simply wrong.
You cannot wipe out my entire collection's diversity and force me to use one of only 18 vehicles...
You can't.

Skylanders 6 isn't a thing to question (and thanks Eon I say... Don't want this to be the last game in the series) and hopefully what I personally consider to be the best developers hands down will bring us what this series has been for 4 years straight again.

Yes.
I want the old soup.
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#88 Posted: 07:07:40 12/08/2015
Less figures is a good thing. With 3 toys to life games now very few will buy the lot and will spread the purchases across multiple games. Leaving excess figures to warm shelves. Over saturation kills interest.
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#89 Posted: 08:53:25 12/08/2015
What I've seen is people say they're just hopping in because the Amiibolanders are starter pack only - a certain marathon stream that's going on had some LPers and Derrick from GameXplain discussing getting all 4 versions somehow plus Spyro and Cynder just for the sake of it. Not sure if they'll stay after that, especially if the figures aren't foward compatible.
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#90 Posted: 10:05:16 13/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
I don't see that much difference.

Again look at the different Links.
Or simply look at the Spyros.

Bowser look identical to his Wii-Wii U incarnations and Donkey Kong look just a bit different (but maybe it's simply the suit and animations).
Nothing which makes them feel like they are part of the Skylands now.



The different Links aren't even the same person, and the different spyros aren't even in the same MULTIVERSE.
When a Link gets a redesign, it's 99% because it's a new link. when they keep the same design, its 50-50 because theyre lazy and recycle toon-link's design, or because its the same link.
They're GUEST STARS, they aren't FROM skylands, but their GAMEPLAY feels VERY skylander-esque, and their designs would feel relatively skylander-esque if you tried to imagine them as nameless characters, the name of a character, his catchphrase, his design, and his personality, those are all ASTHETIC, they are IMMATERIAL, and make you sound shallow for making a big stink over them "being the same".

To me, their desgins are relatively skylander-esque as it is. now, if they had Mario or Link, I would be complaining about how they were selling out, since a big part of the charm (for me) is that they're NOT human. EVER. They're always some cool fantasy beast that I WANT to play as, and Bowser and Donkey Kong fit that frame.
Yeah, they can't be played on any system, but that doesn't matter that much IMO.

They are GUEST stars, who ever heard of a GUEST character that WASN'T console exclusive.

This is NO different from having Link in Soul Calibur II for CameCube, Spawn on the Xbox, and that Tekken guy on PS2.
It isn't, even if the series is built on cross-compatibility with the figures.
I can play all the non-guest stars on any platform in either case, but I can only play the guest star characters on specific systems.
It doesn't matter.
The only REAL difference is that Skylanders' playable characters are tied to REAL WORLD figures. The point that any non-guest star is playable on any system, and any guest star can only be played on a specific entry is true in both cases regardless

Tell me, what ABOUT Bowser's design, is such a far departure from skylanders? Like Sunburn or Whirlwind, he seems to be a hybrid of two animals, a Dragon and a Turtle.
Art-style wise, well, he fits the "cartoony" textures V.V. has already proven quite capable of in SSF, so I don't see the big deal...

Dude, if they skylander-ize their designs AND remove their console exclusivity, then at that point, they cease to be GUESTS.

There's no CHANCE Eon wouldn't at least TRY to recruit them into the skylanders after helping them in their time of need, since skylanders have been recruited for much lesser acts of heroism...
That is why they might as well be skylanders. They at least fought alongside them, which Flynn did, though he isn't a skylander. Should we remove HIM in the next game, simply because HE isn't a skylander?

You complain about traps being removed, but villains aren't skylanders either, so by your logic with the guest stars, they SHOULD have been removed.
You're a walking contradiction, that's what you are.
STOP MAKING DOUBLE STANDARDS.

case in point:
"complains about how Series 2 skylanders are just a cheap, unoriginal and uninspired way to make more money off of selling the same character"
they do something that gets rid of HALF your gripes with series 2, and:
"complains TWICE AS HARD about how they should've given the new movesets to new characters"
They are no longer cheap, no longer uninspired (if they WERE uninspired, they probably COULD have gone to new characters, BUT these movesets were INSPIRED by the OLD movesets...), and is at best, MILDLY unoriginal.
that's petty of you.
You have half as many complaints, yet you complain twice as hard...

YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW A NEW LOOK DOES NOT A NEW CHARACTER MAKE THEN SAY A NEW LOOK IS WHAT THE GUEST STARS NEED TO FIT IN WITH THE SKYLANDERS

And dude, if you think the feeling of WONDERING what a new character can do is LOST on these, well, I disagree, KNOWING that they WILL do something different only FUELS my wonder of what the new Trigger happy or Terrafin might do. I'm already attached to MANY of these characters, so imagining what they are now capable of, fuels my imagination further.
The same way a new character with a design you like fuels your imagination of how it will fight, an old character with a design I like [that has been made ANEW] AND THE PROMISE IT WILL DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT fuels MINE.
In both cases, we are attached to the design, we have NO IDEA what it will do, (or a vague one at best), and it gets our imaginations going... The only difference is if the attachment was "Love at first sight" or "Love that has been conditioned."

It's basically having the advantages a reprint has as an established character that people want to get, and the advantages that a new skylander has of having brand new powers in game that the toy form makes you wonder about, rolled up into ONE.

a new moveset is a new moveset, it allows me to EXPERIENCE something new. and if my favorite characters have those, instead of a nameless thing, I'm (personally) more likely to give that moveset a fair shot. (I'm going to *grudgingly* buy SS stealth elf, even though I do NOT LIKE her new moveset's concept [CONTRADICTS my image of what she is, what she does {daggers or bust}], but I'm going to TRY it anyway.)
I haven't even TOUCHED a large portion of my collection post-giants. (food fight never saw action, Dark Slobber Tooth NOPE [not at first, anyway, gonna have to say, "not bad"])
Do I have to tell you that most of the people were pleasantly surprised by the new Gill Grunt's moveset?
It wasn't what they were EXPECTING.

I STILL mostly use my 5 spyros (S1, S1 Dark, S1 legendary, S3 dark, and Eon's Elite [someday i'll get around to finishing my set with a S2 Spyro, and S3 standard, but eh, for me as well as the devs, Spyro not a priority atm... {even though S2 is my favorite sculpt and my preferred Wow-Pow}]) and 5 stealth elves (2 S1s, S2 legendary, S3, S3 legendary), are still my faves...

You need to remember, that 60% of Giant's roster was reprints, so even disregarding the fact that the reprints this time around at least have new movesets, having 50% of them be reprints is still better than 60% if you hate reprints.

They got plenty of ideas, but making an original character design is harder than redoing the old ones. You see, they choose their favorite characters to reprint because those are the ones that they are INSPIRED by the OLD to create NEW movesets for.

It gets my sense of wonder going imagining how a an OLD character will be DIFFERENT moreso than imagining how a NEW character will BE. I'm already attached to the old figs, so they're already getting 10 figures that they KNOW have popular designs, and giving people a SECOND TIME AROUND to wonder what their powers will be like in-game based on their figure.
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#91 Posted: 10:40:10 13/08/2015
I understand what you said about guest stars.
If they do thought them that way then I can accept their uniqueness just like Light and Dark have less characters than the rest of the Elements.

But this doesn't mean I will accept the base concept.
To me it's still a bad idea having console exclusive figures especially since they are characters and we all might want to play as them.
Is that so difficult to understand?

And I don't think there are multiple Multiverses.
Only one. That's the point of it, including all the possible exsisting Universes.
Skylands' Spyro isn't the same as Legend's Spyro which isn't the same as Classic Spyro.
Just like Link.

Villains obviously aren't the same.
They are Skylands' inhabitants and work on any platforms.
Stop being a walking contradition yourself by bringing up chickens when we are talking about dragons.

I guess you would happily accept a game made exclusively of revamped old Skylanders with new powers then.
Like "oooooh, they have new abilities, who cares if devs were too lazy to come up with new and original Skylanders, must have them".
I understand that but do not share the same opinion.

If you'd change your clothes, learn to speak chinese and play golf and change the way you walk would you be a different person?
No.
Revamped SuperChargers are the same: they learned new moves, changed their outfits but they are still the characters they were before.
Really it's not a bad thing if you still want them, absolutely, but do not try to convince me they are worth my money because I won't spend 13€ for half the effort of Spitfire or Astroblast.

I'm curious to see what the revamps will do as well but there are YouTube videos for that. smilie

Of course creating an entirely new Skylander is more difficult than giving new abilities to an already exsisting character.
But guess what?
I'm paying for efforts not lazyness.
They choose to be lazy and I choose to not give them my money for that (and only for that).
It's this simple.

TfB came up with 36 brand new never seen before original Skylanders last year.
Do I have to consider this as a way of saying V.V. isn't as good as TfB at creating characters?
Dune Bug, Pop Thorn, Spy Rise, Hoot Loop, Punk Shock, Scorp, Countdown and many others would like to disagree.
Consclusions: they went lazy and decided we would have been happy with half of the roster being old faces.
Just like they didn't want to make the villains playable despite having their models inside the game.
Or just like they are restricting if not plain erasing the uniqueness of our 100+ Skylanders by "forcing" (and forcing) us to use only 18/20 vehicles in certain parts.
Lazy, lazy and LAZY.

But that's the point of the whole game so I either don't buy it at all or simply deal with it.
And I want the game.

Giants still had 16 new characters along the reposes which were also a big news back then.
They weren't the focus of the game and didn't cost as much as a Giant.
How is this situation any similar to that one, again, with only 10 brand new Skylanders and the remaining 10 being lazy revamps and not-Skylanders console exclusive guest stars...?

I'm happy many of you like Gill Grunt number 10, but I'm sure as many (if not more) people would gladly throw him out of the window after opening up the Sea Racing Action Pack instead.
Bring me facts not opinions.

They don't help giving and objective view of the situation.

SA: 32 original Skylanders and no reposes;
Giants: 16 original Skylanders and 24 reposes (excluding Lightcores);
SWAP Force: 32 new Skylanders and 16 reposes (excluding Lightcores);
Trap Team: 36 new Skylanders and 5 reposes (excluding Minis);
SuperChargers: 10 new Skylanders and 8 reposes.

See the proportions...?
These are facts.
Which game is worse, balance wise, again...?
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#92 Posted: 21:27:44 13/08/2015
Quote: skygrin
It may be to early to worry about but do you think guest stars will come back? And if so, who do u think it will be? I'm hoping for wario and waluigi.



Hey I had that idea to just look at my profile pic smilie
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#93 Posted: 23:41:06 13/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
That's another thing which I sincerely can't understand.

I've said it another time.
If you jump on a Skylanders game because of Bowser and Donkey Kong... I sincerely don't even know what to say.


Why's it so hard to understand? Nintendo characters have extremely loyal fanbases who will follow those characters anywhere they go. Nintendo has been building up its IP since the dawn of video games and as such has ingrained its characters deeply into many people's lives from childhood straight into adulthood.

Quote: Bifrost
What I've seen is people say they're just hopping in because the Amiibolanders are starter pack only - a certain marathon stream that's going on had some LPers and Derrick from GameXplain discussing getting all 4 versions somehow plus Spyro and Cynder just for the sake of it. Not sure if they'll stay after that, especially if the figures aren't foward compatible.



A loss of Amiibolander compatibility in future games would be one of the worst things Skylanders could do. All those buyers DK and Bowser brought in would vanish in an instant. It would be a much wiser idea to continue adding even more Amiibolanders in the future (assuming Activision and Nintendo continue to maintain a good relationship, of course).
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#94 Posted: 23:59:43 13/08/2015
I understand the Nintendo fanbase but I still find it nonsensical.
I mean... Skymiibos may be what convinced you the most but deciding to buy a game only because of two characters isn't a great decision.

Especially since you would need to get two Starter Packs to play as both the guest stars.

You might end up hating the game itself by doing so.
Of course I'm confident the ones which said so are perfectly conscious of what this game is about but you never know.
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#95 Posted: 00:09:21 14/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
I understand the Nintendo fanbase but I still find it nonsensical.
I mean... Skymiibos may be what convinced you the most but deciding to buy a game only because of two characters isn't a great decision.

Especially since you would need to get two Starter Packs to play as both the guest stars.

You might end up hating the game itself by doing so.
Of course I'm confident the ones which said so are perfectly conscious of what this game is about but you never know.



Well tons of games get guest charcters for certain systems like link in soul calbor,yoda and darth vader in a fighting game,and tons more I mean it was only a matter of time for this to happen. Infact in D.I 3.0 Sony gets certain content before micosoft and nintendo even if it isn't as big as this is but its just life
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#96 Posted: 00:15:09 14/08/2015
My major gripe with Skymiibos is that Skylanders has a lore unlike Infinity and Amiibos.
And all the figures should be playable on all the systems.

I simply want an explanation why this isn't possible with them.
Just that.
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#97 Posted: 00:43:25 14/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
My major gripe with Skymiibos is that Skylanders has a lore unlike Infinity and Amiibos.
And all the figures should be playable on all the systems.

I simply want an explanation why this isn't possible with them.
Just that.


Because copyright. Good enough explanation?

Also, there's nothing wrong with people getting into the game just for DK and Bowser. Especially not to Activision. smilie
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#98 Posted: 00:48:08 14/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
I simply want an explanation why this isn't possible with them.


Do you also want an explanation for why only Wii U players could interact with villains while they were inside the traps in Trap Team? It's the same thing, really. Exclusive content because it's only possible on the platform(s) the content is exclusive to. There won't be a lore reason because (among so many other things) the in-game lore wouldn't acknowledge there being separate versions of the same game in the first place, so it's really not worth waiting for one.

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And all the figures should be playable on all the systems.


And I completely disagree with this. Especially because exclusives give the game broader appeal to fans of the exclusive content, which is a good thing.
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#99 Posted: 01:02:56 14/08/2015
Quote: FireMeowth
Quote: Drek95
I simply want an explanation why this isn't possible with them.


Do you also want an explanation for why only Wii U players could interact with villains while they were inside the traps in Trap Team? It's the same thing, really. Exclusive content because it's only possible on the platform(s) the content is exclusive to. There won't be a lore reason because (among so many other things) the in-game lore wouldn't acknowledge there being separate versions of the same game in the first place, so it's really not worth waiting for one.

Quote:
And all the figures should be playable on all the systems.


And I completely disagree with this. Especially because exclusives give the game broader appeal to fans of the exclusive content, which is a good thing.

What do you mean by Wii u players interacting with villains?
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#100 Posted: 01:47:22 14/08/2015
Quote: Drek95
My major gripe with Skymiibos is that Skylanders has a lore unlike Infinity and Amiibos.
And all the figures should be playable on all the systems.

I simply want an explanation why this isn't possible with them.
Just that.


You do realize how dumb this makes you look, right? This is like asking why Mickey Mouse can't be in a Looney Tunes cartoon.

DK and Bowser literally cannot be on any other system.
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