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Am I the only one who'd like to see Pocahontas in this game?

...I am?

*goes and sits in the corner*

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Am I the only one who'd like to see Pocahontas in this game?

...I am?

*goes and sits in the corner*

No, you're not. I'd rather see more of classic Disney than of Marvel or Star Wars. I want characters like Peter Pan, Pocahontas, Belle, Simba, Hercules, Alice, & Winne the Pooh.

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all i want is dipper and mabel in 3.0 and ill be happy as figures.

Rumor is that Gravity is getting its own game.

Source?

Alex Hirsch - 2014 San Diego Comic Con

I want
Disney
1.simba
2.timon and pumba
3.ferb
4.dipper
5.goofy/or zurg

Marvel
1.wolverine
2.deadpool
3.ultron
4.thing
5.vision

Star Wars
1.R2D2
2.yoda
3.commander rex
4.darth vader
5.kit fisto

Seeing some of these lists, I feel this should be posted...

Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but a number of characters simply will not happen. As was posted in an earlier topic for Infinity, Disney may own the rights to Marvel, but not the movie rights to every Marvel series. Prime example being X-Men. Unless they do some weird thing like Wolverine being noted as from the Avengers series cause of cross-overs or something, it simply won't happen. And no, a character won't get added simply to add as DI seems primarily founded as a cash cow to promote Disney movies/series. No X-Men in Infinity. Pretty sure this includes Deadpool too.

Also, no Fantastic Four. Not just because of movie rights, but not much merchandise of them is happening right now. I believe whoever does have the rights is being a butt right now or something. A Marvel card game with a F4 expansion had the expansion discontinued and another isn't having F4 for the same reason. None of those characters will happen. Even if Disney wanted to, I doubt the company who has their rights would let them do it.

Finally, for those wanting people such as Ashoka or Rex who came from Clone Wars.... While there is a chance, it is a very slim one. The main reason Clone Wars ended was over rights. When Disney bought Star Wars, another group was doing Clone Wars and had the contracts with Lucas. In order for Clone Wars to continue, new contracts and new legal stuff would've been needed. Disney decided it wasn't worth the effort and didn't. While I'm not entirely sure, I highly doubt Disney owns the rights to any characters originating from Clone Wars.

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Seeing some of these lists, I feel this should be posted...

Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but a number of characters simply will not happen. As was posted in an earlier topic for Infinity, Disney may own the rights to Marvel, but not the movie rights to every Marvel series. Prime example being X-Men. Unless they do some weird thing like Wolverine being noted as from the Avengers series cause of cross-overs or something, it simply won't happen. And no, a character won't get added simply to add as DI seems primarily founded as a cash cow to promote Disney movies/series. No X-Men in Infinity. Pretty sure this includes Deadpool too.

Also, no Fantastic Four. Not just because of movie rights, but not much merchandise of them is happening right now. I believe whoever does have the rights is being a butt right now or something. A Marvel card game with a F4 expansion had the expansion discontinued and another isn't having F4 for the same reason. None of those characters will happen. Even if Disney wanted to, I doubt the company who has their rights would let them do it.

Finally, for those wanting people such as Ashoka or Rex who came from Clone Wars.... While there is a chance, it is a very slim one. The main reason Clone Wars ended was over rights. When Disney bought Star Wars, another group was doing Clone Wars and had the contracts with Lucas. In order for Clone Wars to continue, new contracts and new legal stuff would've been needed. Disney decided it wasn't worth the effort and didn't. While I'm not entirely sure, I highly doubt Disney owns the rights to any characters originating from Clone Wars.

Yeah thats true but theres that.Also I think they could add wolverine maybe as a toy box only charcter if they decide Marvel is getting little to no levels (like disney in 2.0).Lastlyif they really wnated to add Wolverine in (he is heavly requested similar to G.F character) I can see Wolverine being a Avengers charcter as seen multiple times in tv shows/comics so it can happen imo.

Ah, hadn't seen much with Rebels and even noted I wasn't too sure on them.

I know they could do something like that, as I noted above, but as also noted DI tends to put it with them being from a certain franchise. Even if not with the story modes, the base designs show this and proven with Maleficent's Angelina Jolie appearance as opposed to classic. I see it unlikely they'd throw in some random character with no prior basis in their works.

He had a small guest appearance in the Ultimate Spidey show for a couple episodes, but nothing major. 2.0 with that play-set would've been the time to do it if they were to. I don't see them listing him as an Avenger with him not appearing in the Avengers movies. Something they can't do anyway as lack of rights to use him in those movies. Given the Ult Spidey appearance, Wolverine has a very very tiny chance, but still highly unlikely. Even then, he'd be the only one to appear, so don't hold your breath for Cyclops, Phoenix, Magneto, or anyone else.

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Am I the only one who'd like to see Pocahontas in this game?

...I am?

*goes and sits in the corner*

No, you're not. I'd rather see more of classic Disney than of Marvel or Star Wars. I want characters like Peter Pan, Pocahontas, Belle, Simba, Hercules, Alice, & Winne the Pooh.

Agreed 110%. Bring in some of the guys that got you off the ground in the first place, Big D!

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Seeing some of these lists, I feel this should be posted...

Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but a number of characters simply will not happen. As was posted in an earlier topic for Infinity, Disney may own the rights to Marvel, but not the movie rights to every Marvel series. Prime example being X-Men. Unless they do some weird thing like Wolverine being noted as from the Avengers series cause of cross-overs or something, it simply won't happen. And no, a character won't get added simply to add as DI seems primarily founded as a cash cow to promote Disney movies/series. No X-Men in Infinity. Pretty sure this includes Deadpool too.

Also, no Fantastic Four. Not just because of movie rights, but not much merchandise of them is happening right now. I believe whoever does have the rights is being a butt right now or something. A Marvel card game with a F4 expansion had the expansion discontinued and another isn't having F4 for the same reason. None of those characters will happen. Even if Disney wanted to, I doubt the company who has their rights would let them do it.

Finally, for those wanting people such as Ashoka or Rex who came from Clone Wars.... While there is a chance, it is a very slim one. The main reason Clone Wars ended was over rights. When Disney bought Star Wars, another group was doing Clone Wars and had the contracts with Lucas. In order for Clone Wars to continue, new contracts and new legal stuff would've been needed. Disney decided it wasn't worth the effort and didn't. While I'm not entirely sure, I highly doubt Disney owns the rights to any characters originating from Clone Wars.

Except that Lucas Film owns the Clone Wars Series and the characters contained therein. Disney bought Lucas Film and owns them all. That's why the un-aired season 6 episodes made it to Netflix shortly after Disney bought Lucas Film. Not only is Ahsoka returning but Rex is also coming back with some other clones as older dudes (going to be f-ing EPIX). Cartoon Network (fixed) has no rights since even back then Lucas Film owned the show and characters. In the example of the X-men, Marvel was a bit of a dummy head on that one and they're stuck with Fox owning the rights. Although somehow Marvel Heroes can get away with it so you never know.

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Seeing some of these lists, I feel this should be posted...

Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but a number of characters simply will not happen. As was posted in an earlier topic for Infinity, Disney may own the rights to Marvel, but not the movie rights to every Marvel series. Prime example being X-Men. Unless they do some weird thing like Wolverine being noted as from the Avengers series cause of cross-overs or something, it simply won't happen. And no, a character won't get added simply to add as DI seems primarily founded as a cash cow to promote Disney movies/series. No X-Men in Infinity. Pretty sure this includes Deadpool too.

Also, no Fantastic Four. Not just because of movie rights, but not much merchandise of them is happening right now. I believe whoever does have the rights is being a butt right now or something. A Marvel card game with a F4 expansion had the expansion discontinued and another isn't having F4 for the same reason. None of those characters will happen. Even if Disney wanted to, I doubt the company who has their rights would let them do it.

Finally, for those wanting people such as Ashoka or Rex who came from Clone Wars.... While there is a chance, it is a very slim one. The main reason Clone Wars ended was over rights. When Disney bought Star Wars, another group was doing Clone Wars and had the contracts with Lucas. In order for Clone Wars to continue, new contracts and new legal stuff would've been needed. Disney decided it wasn't worth the effort and didn't. While I'm not entirely sure, I highly doubt Disney owns the rights to any characters originating from Clone Wars.

Except that Lucas Film owns the Clone Wars Series and the characters contained therein. Disney bought Lucas Film and owns them all. That's why the un-aired season 6 episodes made it to Netflix shortly after Disney bought Lucas Film. Not only is Ahsoka returning but Rex is also coming back with some other clones as older dudes (going to be f-ing EPIX). Nick has no rights since even back then Lucas Film owned the show and characters. In the example of the X-men, Marvel was a bit of a dummy head on that one and their stuck with Fox owning the rights. Although somehow Marvel Heroes can get away with it so you never know.

Yeah, the mistake with Clone Wars was pointed out. Like I said, I wasn't entirely sure on that one cause of just what led to it getting cancelled. My bad and I admit fault in that part. Also Nick never owned anything, Clone Wars was on CN.

If Disney threw the characters all together and made them all co-exist properly in the same universe, it'd be different. Though DI seems to strictly enforce segregation between each movie/show. Even with the ToyBox only characters it seems apparent it is made distinct they are from specific things. With nothing to denote X-Men as being from, I see it incredibly unlikely. Not impossible, but about less than 1% of a chance.

I use to have a chart with a breakdown of all the licensing rights between Marvel and the various studios. I cant find it at the moment. What it boils down to basically however is that Fox has the MOVIE rights to the X-Men & the Fantastic Four. Technically because the rights are only based around movies, Marvel/Disney could promote X-Men and the F4 through other media such as video games and television formats. F4 has gotten basically NOTHING outside of the online Marvel Heroes ARPG and the Avengers Alliance Facebook game. The X-men and Wolverine have gotten a bit more love. However with all of these characters they have been very clear to be comic book universe versions only. Disney would rather blacklist all Fox owned material, and not provide them with anything to be considered promotion of the characters. Hence why there was no Wolverine or Deadpool with the DI2 Spider-man Playsets. We all know both those characters would have sold like crazy and were in the cartoon. Hence why there were no Days of Future Past X-men toys. No Fantastic Four toys. Even the minimum X-Men Lego toys were all comic-book centric. Disney would rather minimize Fox's profits on the characters to only what they get from box office receipts. If the studios arent getting additional promotion on these characters through merchandising it becomes harder to justify to keep the rights.

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I use to have a chart with a breakdown of all the licensing rights between Marvel and the various studios. I cant find it at the moment. What it boils down to basically however is that Fox has the MOVIE rights to the X-Men & the Fantastic Four. Technically because the rights are only based around movies, Marvel/Disney could promote X-Men and the F4 through other media such as video games and television formats. F4 has gotten basically NOTHING outside of the online Marvel Heroes ARPG and the Avengers Alliance Facebook game. The X-men and Wolverine have gotten a bit more love. However with all of these characters they have been very clear to be comic book universe versions only. Disney would rather blacklist all Fox owned material, and not provide them with anything to be considered promotion of the characters. Hence why there was no Wolverine or Deadpool with the DI2 Spider-man Playsets. We all know both those characters would have sold like crazy and were in the cartoon. Hence why there were no Days of Future Past X-men toys. No Fantastic Four toys. Even the minimum X-Men Lego toys were all comic-book centric. Disney would rather minimize Fox's profits on the characters to only what they get from box office receipts. If the studios arent getting additional promotion on these characters through merchandising it becomes harder to justify to keep the rights.

I totally hear what your saying but games like Marvel Heroes and Lego Marvel totally don't make any since. Why those games but not D.I.? There are all kinds of app. games too. I'd love the comic book versions of the X-men. That's really the only version I'd want. At least Star Wars won't be a problem sine they own it outright.

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I use to have a chart with a breakdown of all the licensing rights between Marvel and the various studios. I cant find it at the moment. What it boils down to basically however is that Fox has the MOVIE rights to the X-Men & the Fantastic Four. Technically because the rights are only based around movies, Marvel/Disney could promote X-Men and the F4 through other media such as video games and television formats. F4 has gotten basically NOTHING outside of the online Marvel Heroes ARPG and the Avengers Alliance Facebook game. The X-men and Wolverine have gotten a bit more love. However with all of these characters they have been very clear to be comic book universe versions only. Disney would rather blacklist all Fox owned material, and not provide them with anything to be considered promotion of the characters. Hence why there was no Wolverine or Deadpool with the DI2 Spider-man Playsets. We all know both those characters would have sold like crazy and were in the cartoon. Hence why there were no Days of Future Past X-men toys. No Fantastic Four toys. Even the minimum X-Men Lego toys were all comic-book centric. Disney would rather minimize Fox's profits on the characters to only what they get from box office receipts. If the studios arent getting additional promotion on these characters through merchandising it becomes harder to justify to keep the rights.

I totally hear what your saying but games like Marvel Heroes and Lego Marvel totally don't make any since. Why those games but not D.I.? There are all kinds of app. games too. I'd love the comic book versions of the X-men. That's really the only version I'd want. At least Star Wars won't be a problem sine they own it outright.

It comes down to what I'd said earlier. DI seems mostly used to promote movies in the form of merchandise and encourage sales and viewership of such. Something many toys and some movies do and not always a bad thing. The whole segregation in story and enforced differentiation of what each character originates from means Disney has no movie or show to tie them back to that they own. We may want the classic comic version, but if they make them, it'll be based upon a movie version. Prime example being Maleficent. Used the Angelina Jolie one to promote the Maleficent movie instead of using the classic look which would've appeased more Disney fans.

In cases like Lego Marvel & Marvel Heroes, it's simply just Marvel in general. It doesn't try to tie back to any movies or shows, it just uses Marvel in its purest form.

I'd like to add (while we're bursting bubbles lol) there will most likely be no Simba this round either.

There was an interview last year when the concept art of Simba and Aurora surfaced on one of the Disney artists who worked for Infinity posted it to his blog.



In the interview they said at this time they know fans want Simba but he's not like other four legged characters. He's a king, so you can't just saddle him up and ride him; as well as he can't just ride other characters.

Which was the main reason he was excluded in 2.0 . There might be a slim chance they make a 4-legged character mode or special races with just them but I doubt it ):

part of the reason he was taken out of this concept work:

I kinda figured being a quadruped would cause issues, still listed him earlier for the sake of listing classic Disney. I did notice there hadn't been any yet, though didn't think of just why, though riding vehicles and things makes sense. I know in the first KH game, they wanted to do Pride Lands and have Sora turn into a lion cub for the world, though at the time the game couldn't handle having a playable quadruped so Simba got down-graded to a summon until they could fix it in KH2.

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I kinda figured being a quadruped would cause issues, still listed him earlier for the sake of listing classic Disney. I did notice there hadn't been any yet, though didn't think of just why, though riding vehicles and things makes sense. I know in the first KH game, they wanted to do Pride Lands and have Sora turn into a lion cub for the world, though at the time the game couldn't handle having a playable quadruped so Simba got down-graded to a summon until they could fix it in KH2.

all that AND Sora's first design was VERY lion king based! So there was conflict with that as well. (Should he becoem a full lion? Or be half half in that world kind of thing.)

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I kinda figured being a quadruped would cause issues, still listed him earlier for the sake of listing classic Disney. I did notice there hadn't been any yet, though didn't think of just why, though riding vehicles and things makes sense. I know in the first KH game, they wanted to do Pride Lands and have Sora turn into a lion cub for the world, though at the time the game couldn't handle having a playable quadruped so Simba got down-graded to a summon until they could fix it in KH2.

all that AND Sora's first design was VERY lion king based! So there was conflict with that as well. (Should he becoem a full lion? Or be half half in that world kind of thing.)

You mean the one with the lion tail, paws, ears, and chainsaw? That was really early on and I don't think ever went far from concept stages. There was a lot of debate around the main character when the game was first getting discussed and planned. Square wanted Mickey, Disney wanted Donald, and Nomura wanted a human as the main protagonist. Sora with Donald & Goofy is the result of a compromise. We probably had the design we got in KH1 by the time they actually got around to planning worlds.

I only want
Bill
Dipper
Mabel
Figment

My most wanted are all female (what a shock):

• Snow White
  
• Ursula
  
• Cruella de Vil
  
• Wasp
  
• She-Hulk
  
• Nebula
  
• Princess Leia
  

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I only want
Bill
Dipper
Mabel
Figment

YES. THIS WILL BE THE ONLY WAY I WILL BUY DI.

Fear, sadness, and disgust are on taobao. Also INSIDE OUT PLAYSET CONFIRMED!!!!!

Check this out we have video footage its kinda short though!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hvSoHDlFU

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Check this out we have video footage its kinda short though!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hvSoHDlFU

Of what? It appears to have been removed.

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Fear, sadness, and disgust are on taobao. Also INSIDE OUT PLAYSET CONFIRMED!!!!!

...And no links?

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Check this out we have video footage its kinda short though!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hvSoHDlFU

Of what? It appears to have been removed.

well it was footage of joy in the toy box so its seems to have gotten deleted also it seems that star wars has been confimerd do to a tweet by jv saying Be patient, Padawan

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Check this out we have video footage its kinda short though!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hvSoHDlFU

Of what? It appears to have been removed.

well it was footage of joy in the toy box so its seems to have gotten deleted also it seems that star wars has been confimerd do to a tweet by jv saying Be patient, Padawan

Patience leads to frustration, frustration leads to hate, hate leads to...ah hell they need to just confirm this crap on 5-4-15!!!!

Patience is over, Infinity 3.0 Starter Pack: http://mydisneyinfinity.de/201...-wars-bild-hot/

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Patience is over, Infinity 3.0 Starter Pack: http://mydisneyinfinity.de/201...-wars-bild-hot/

looks photoshopped

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i was just gonna post that really like the look and but wonder why anakin and ashoka.

O...M....Mother-truckin...G!!!!!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/20...s-anakin-ahsoka

It's so beautiful...tears...of joy.

Regardign that Saturn link, did you guys notice the date of 20-8-15?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?

^ Huh so it's confirmed wonder who else will be joining in on the star wars side since there is some to pick from

Yet again... we want better stories...

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Yet again... we want better stories...

This so much....would it really kill them to make a good story mode? The Toy Box right now is the main selling point. As it stands I only play the play-set levels to unlock crap for the Toy Box, and that's sad.

3.0 Starter Pack with Anakin and Ahsoka: Link

I might get it when it comes cheap

Since Anakin and Ahsoka are the starter toys, it's a ruddy guarantee that we'll see Grevious, Boba Fett and others.

I have to say, as a Star Wars fan, I'm interested. There are gonna have to be some BIG changes to get me to buy it though.

I wonder how much of a change we'll see this time around or will we see the exact same graphics and gameplay as the two previous games?

Eh, Clone Wars.. Somewhat expected.

Just waiting for Boba Fett to be announced. If he isn't in the game, I probably won't be getting it.

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Eh, Clone Wars.. Somewhat expected.

Just waiting for Boba Fett to be announced. If he isn't in the game, I probably won't be getting it.

Yeah Boba Fett is the one I'm waiting for most. To be honest though I'm surprised they went with Clone Wars in the Starter and not Rebels. It could have come with Vader and adult Ahsoka and that would have made S.W. fans go absolutely Ape. Clone Wars, while amazing, was last gen. Infinity usually tries to push new movie/show content. Hell we've already seen the Inside Out figs. I'm super stoked but surprised.

On the other side the Clone Wars characters design was much better as in Rebels with their Aladdin-like character, and I like it that they use it for the OT characters (Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Lando, etc.).

The other question is, what we will become with the Starter Pack. By the look of it again only one play set, no toy box game discs and only two characters. From year by year lesser .

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On the other side the Clone Wars characters design was much better as in Rebels with their Aladdin-like character, and I like it that they use it for the OT characters (Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Lando, etc.).

The other question is, what we will become with the Starter Pack. By the look of it again only one play set, no toy box game discs and only two characters. From year by year lesser .

I think/hope this will be priced like the Disney originals starter pack becuse it had two charcters and I could see them replacing the toy box game with a playset

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On the other side the Clone Wars characters design was much better as in Rebels with their Aladdin-like character, and I like it that they use it for the OT characters (Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Lando, etc.).

The other question is, what we will become with the Starter Pack. By the look of it again only one play set, no toy box game discs and only two characters. From year by year lesser .

I think/hope this will be priced like the Disney originals starter pack becuse it had two charcters and I could see them replacing the toy box game with a playset

That would be better for Disney. I have no idea how it was in other countrys, but here in Germany the prices goes two month later down to 39,99 €, the same price of the Disney Originals pack. So that many buyers of 2.0 wouldn't buy it a second time at the release for the full price. And we want forget that Disney will have in this year a second anything but small competitor (Lego).

Or they will make it in this year conversely and they will release later a real Disney Infinity starter pack like 1.0 with 3 characters/play sets.

>Has the Star Wars IP
>Uses Clone Wars

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>Has the Star Wars IP
>Uses Clone Wars

Hate to say it, but rather agree.... like wtf. Ashoka & Anakin are nice, but where the hell are Luke, Leia, Han, and Vader? Also, what up with Obi-Wan (clone wars era) and Darth Maul pod racing on the box art? Just like lol.

The debate as to who should be in the Starter is an endless one. Frankly I'm more bummed that it appears to only come with 2 figures. They are awesome figures but there could have been a third. I wonder if there will be like ships or space. If I can fly around in an A-wing I will be sooooo happy. Toy Box Space Battles would consume my life lol. Buzz Lightyear would wet himself in a real space battle.

I think they will just make multiple star wars set they did it with marvel giving them 3 different sets (that may have happened in different points in time) so they could still do the same we have Clone Wars they could make one based the movie (though i get the feeling they will base it off of The Force Awakening but they could add anther one on the eariler ones making two) and they could make one on Rebels they could make one for the sith side or... was it imperial i forgot anyway my only problem if they add this much is we will be having they same problem like 2.0 all we got was marvel sets which were mostly meant to be fighting play sets some small changes to each one (that is how feel) and it was in 1.0 to but at least not all the play sets had focus on fighting MU play set had stealth for example. maybe they will add different gameplay elements but also not everyone just wants star wars set same like not everyone wants just marvel sets but cheer up we have a chance at seeing star wars characters you really wanted.

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>Has the Star Wars IP
>Uses Clone Wars

Hate to say it, but rather agree.... like wtf. Ashoka & Anakin are nice, but where the hell are Luke, Leia, Han, and Vader? Also, what up with Obi-Wan (clone wars era) and Darth Maul pod racing on the box art? Just like lol.

I'm pretty sure they're doing this because they know everybody will buy those characters very quickly.

Vader would have SOLD the starter pack.
Not a lot of people truly do care about the prequel universe.
Yeah the Clone Wars cartoon series does have a bit of buzz and Star Wars sells to the army of Star Wars fanboys.

Vader sells to everyone beyond just the star wars fans.

As I've said I don't really like the direction they take with these games.
But mulan will indeed be what sells me this game. But like the other two games I'll probably play 4 minutes of the character, download a few single player user created missions and I'll again be bored with this series.

Wish they added lemy from ratatouille

Or
Indiana jones
Brer fox
Brer bear
Brer fox
Robin hood
Mr.toad
Mole
Water rat( forgot his name )
Mc badger
Detective mouse
Roger rabbit
Oswald
Pete
Max( goffy son)
Like those classic characters


Inside out characters look sweet especially sadness his model is cool

Starwars... I unexpected the expected

Still, my brothers will flip when they see this!

After this, forget Skylanders. I am all over that 3.0 starter pack. This game looks to be one of the most promising (even though we don't know hardly anything) this year. Although I completely agree, where the heck is the Original trilogy!!! Who really cares about Anikan and Asokha!