darkSpyro

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Quote: DragonShine

I'm buying it cause I like sonic games. Though I'll see if the price drops first within a month or 2

Forgetting all of the glitches, I should warn you the game is quite short. Even if the price does drop, I don't think you'll want to spend the money for such a short console game. <.<;

Agreed.

Page.

more keks

edit: people on GAF are mentioning that after you beat the final boss the whole audio in the game cuts out completely.

REALLY THO....

He must go, the Master Emerald needs him! XP

More shennagins.

Also, THIS TAKES THE CAKE.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2OI_5pCYAA0UnU.png:orig

THERE IS A GLITCH THAT ALLOWS YOU TO ACTIVATE A HIGHER QUALITY GRAPHICS SETTING

Game Grumps are playing it.

Jeez, isn't the Wii U version made by the same people who made Ratchet and Clank AND Jak and Daxter? Good going BigRedButton.

As someone who liked exploiting Sonic 06, I may get this game once the price drops or I can get it for the cheap. I didn't like what I played from the 3DS version so I wont get that. The show looks promising at least.

Quote: zer0dch

I didn't have much hope for this game. I read the impressions and nodded and went my way. But no. Sonic is like the cancerous mass that keeps coming back. The fact that I have to hear about how Sonic is on his feet again and making a great comeback is wrong.

Sonic WAS making a good comeback before Sonic Boom. Colors, 4 Episode 1, and Generations are some of the best Sonic games to be released in years(Colors is one of my favorite games ever and my favorite in the series), and while 4 Episode 2 and Lost World got mixed reception, it seemed to get decent reception from fans. Personally I think Sonic Boom should've gotten a game if the show was successful. Sonic was doing fine with the Sonic 4 games and Colors and Generations. The new direction with Lost World was definitely questionable, but they shouldn't have rebooted(for lack of better word) the series again when Colors and Generations solidified what made great modern day Sonic games.

Episode 1 is bad.

Episode 2 is pretty good, but still not a worthy successor to S3&K.

Colours is awesome. Has some problems but it's awesome.

Generations is perfect, especially for PC users.

Lost World is great and I like it's base gameplay. It's only problem was that it had too many levels that strayed from that awesome base gameplay. It also had terrible conveyance.

I didn't mind what Sonic Boom was trying to do since it is only a western spin-off game. I thought it looked like a decent co-op adventure game at the least. The bugs have ruined it, though. Without them, the game would at least be decent.

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Jeez, isn't the Wii U version made by the same people who made Ratchet and Clank AND Jak and Daxter? Good going BigRedButton.

As someone who liked exploiting Sonic 06, I may get this game once the price drops or I can get it for the cheap. I didn't like what I played from the 3DS version so I wont get that. The show looks promising at least.

Quote: zer0dch

I didn't have much hope for this game. I read the impressions and nodded and went my way. But no. Sonic is like the cancerous mass that keeps coming back. The fact that I have to hear about how Sonic is on his feet again and making a great comeback is wrong.

Sonic WAS making a good comeback before Sonic Boom. Colors, 4 Episode 1, and Generations are some of the best Sonic games to be released in years(Colors is one of my favorite games ever and my favorite in the series), and while 4 Episode 2 and Lost World got mixed reception, it seemed to get decent reception from fans. Personally I think Sonic Boom should've gotten a game if the show was successful. Sonic was doing fine with the Sonic 4 games and Colors and Generations. The new direction with Lost World was definitely questionable, but they shouldn't have rebooted(for lack of better word) the series again when Colors and Generations solidified what made great modern day Sonic games.

Sonic 4 was not good. It's also sad that I preferred episode 1 over 2, not that 1 was any good. Color's was alright. Generations is fantastic (those classic stages!), and Lost World is a joke.

I just wish Sega would stick with a gameplay formula for Sonic, push it out, and excel with it.

I believe the main point of the topic had to do with Sonic Boom and its glitches, so I will kindly ask that you guys please stop your arguments about other titles.

pleasedon'thatemeI'msorrybutIwillreportifitgoeson

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I believe the main point of the topic had to do with Sonic Boom and its glitches, so I will kindly ask that you guys please stop your arguments about other titles.

pleasedon'thatemeI'msorrybutIwillreportifitgoeson

I'm the OP and I'm cool with discussing about bad sonic games comparable to this

Meh, Sonic Boom seemed awful from the start.

Sad to see Sonic's good streak ruined by another crap game.

Quote: sonicbrawler182

Episode 1 is bad.

Episode 2 is pretty good, but still not a worthy successor to S3&K.

Colours is awesome. Has some problems but it's awesome.

Generations is perfect, especially for PC users.

Lost World is great and I like it's base gameplay. It's only problem was that it had too many levels that strayed from that awesome base gameplay. It also had terrible conveyance.

I didn't mind what Sonic Boom was trying to do since it is only a western spin-off game. I thought it looked like a decent co-op adventure game at the least. The bugs have ruined it, though. Without them, the game would at least be decent.

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Quote: pankakesparx456

Jeez, isn't the Wii U version made by the same people who made Ratchet and Clank AND Jak and Daxter? Good going BigRedButton.

As someone who liked exploiting Sonic 06, I may get this game once the price drops or I can get it for the cheap. I didn't like what I played from the 3DS version so I wont get that. The show looks promising at least.

Quote: zer0dch

I didn't have much hope for this game. I read the impressions and nodded and went my way. But no. Sonic is like the cancerous mass that keeps coming back. The fact that I have to hear about how Sonic is on his feet again and making a great comeback is wrong.

Sonic WAS making a good comeback before Sonic Boom. Colors, 4 Episode 1, and Generations are some of the best Sonic games to be released in years(Colors is one of my favorite games ever and my favorite in the series), and while 4 Episode 2 and Lost World got mixed reception, it seemed to get decent reception from fans. Personally I think Sonic Boom should've gotten a game if the show was successful. Sonic was doing fine with the Sonic 4 games and Colors and Generations. The new direction with Lost World was definitely questionable, but they shouldn't have rebooted(for lack of better word) the series again when Colors and Generations solidified what made great modern day Sonic games.

Sonic 4 was not good. It's also sad that I preferred episode 1 over 2, not that 1 was any good. Color's was alright. Generations is fantastic (those classic stages!), and Lost World is a joke.

I just wish Sega would stick with a gameplay formula for Sonic, push it out, and excel with it.

Well if we're discussing these games;

Episode 1 was pretty good. I liked the music, the gameplay was simple and captured the feel of the genesis games pretty well, though I thought the graphics weren't all that great, and the level design and locations were pretty bland.

Sonic Colors to date is my favorite Sonic game. The graphics look excellent for a Wii game, the gameplay was astounding, building on Unleashed's daytime stages, the story was simple and not overcomplicated, the writing was great and funny, and the music is absolutely legendary.

Sonic Generations is probably a close second for my favorite. The stages recreated for classic and modern sonic were well-designed, the game looked beautiful, the soundtrack is excellent, though the story has issues and the final boss was excruciating.

Episode 2 was even better than episode 1. The level design, while still recycled with locations, was a lot better than episode 1, Tails and Metal Sonic were great additions to the gameplay, and the game looked a lot nicer and polished than the first game.

For the most part, I liked Lost World. When it wasn't being gimmicky, I liked the gameplay, and the level designs fit the setting very well, but the deadly six are probably the worst villains the sonic series has created.

Meh, different opinions I guess. Personally I thought the direction Sonic was going was fine before Sonic Boom.

Quote: Windumup

Sonic Heroes is the only good Sonic game

I give up on you.

I like Sonic's characters except Shadow.

I can't stand Modern Sonic. I don't mean the character, but the rock music every game, how it tries to be edgy and how it tries to have a "Dark Villain" who's an ancient god of darkness or some crap like that.

And as for the fans. Oh God... don't get me started on them.

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

I like Sonic's characters except Shadow.

I can't stand Modern Sonic. I don't mean the character, but the rock music every game, how it tries to be edgy and how it tries to have a "Dark Villain" who's an ancient god of darkness or some crap like that.

And as for the fans. Oh God... don't get me started on them.

The over saturation of rock music was only a problem when Jun Senoue was doing most of the compositions. Come Sonic 06, SEGA wisened up and he's more or less slipped off the scene of main game Sonic music, aside from some remixes for Generations. So, uh, Unleashed, Colors, Generations, and Lost World would like to have a word with you. >.>

Getting back to the topic at hand, apparently speedrunners have been able to use Knuckles's infinite jump glitch to skip 90% of the game and beat it in around an hour. ^.^;

Sonic '14
Sonic '06

Well. A user on twitch skipped 80% of the game and beat it in under an hour.

hahahaha

...I got both games, and loved both of them. I didn't have any glitch or audio sync problems like in those videos. . Weird.
But I enjoyed the games maybe because when I played the game, I didn't have my mind synced that it was a Sonic game to begin with.
And collecting all the items is a bit challenging, which is something I enjoy.

I think comparing Sonic Boom with Sonic 06 is an exaggeration though.

Quote: Crystal

...I got both games, and loved both of them. I didn't have any glitch or audio sync problems like in those videos. O_O. Weird.
But I enjoyed the games maybe because when I played the game, I didn't have my mind synced that it was a Sonic game to begin with.
And collecting all the items is a bit challenging, which is something I enjoy.

I think comparing Sonic Boom with Sonic 06 is an exaggeration though.

Ha.

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after watching more gameplay of the wii u sonic boom i don't know if i'd even want it for the glitches like with sonic 06. it looks so boring. i wouldn't pay more than $5 for it

Quote: Big Green

after watching more gameplay of the wii u sonic boom i don't know if i'd even want it for the glitches like with sonic 06. it looks so boring. i wouldn't pay more than $5 for it

I like your new avatar.

What I like is that some people are defending this game saying "NO NOTHING IS WORSE THAN '06".

No, Rise of Lyric is worse in it's current state. Sonic '06 is a mess. But it has some fun points. At it's core, it was also a Sonic game. It also didn't look any better graphically, from previews. Sonic Boom's first screenshots look much better than the released game.

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What I like is that some people are defending this game saying "NO NOTHING IS WORSE THAN '06".

No, Rise of Lyric is worse in it's current state. Sonic '06 is a mess. But it has some fun points. At it's core, it was also a Sonic game. It also didn't look any better graphically, from previews. Sonic Boom's first screenshots look much better than the full game.

Apparently there is a glitch to make the graphics better...yeah, wtf.

Quote: zer0dch

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The sonic fandom is like the worst fandom ever. they ***** about everything but the genese games like they're from god or something. the genesis titles have flaws too but no instead of pointing out those you put on your nostolgia goggles and complain about anything new that comes out before even trying it. here i have a piece of advece for you:

Take off your nostolgia goggle and wake up there are flaws in ALL sonic games not just the new ones.
Dont be an A@@ hole to other peoples opinions they can play any game they like without you ****ting on them.

What pot are you smoking? The Genesis Sonic games are pretty good and aged like fine wine. Could you pinpoint a few flaws for me in the Genesis Sonic titles (1-3&K)?

The new game is literally trash. The biggest Sonic fan on twitter game the game a 0/10, making remarks that Sonic Boom is tiresome and depressing to play.
There's also a handful of glitches and bugs. It doesn't even play like a Sonic fan.

TBH I despise darkSpyro for the fact no one can have a decent discussion and debate rather than a fight with people just butting heads, i appreciate that everyone has opinions and while people may not understand others viewpoints they aren't that person and therefore by telling them they are wrong are making no sense because opinions are completely subjective

Now that my little rant is over let me just say that I agree, the Genesis games are p solid, but there is one aspect that isn't that great.See, in the old games you wanna go fast, it's the appeal and what makes it so different from other platformer games for the most part, but there are so many speed traps that it seems like the game is punishing you for going fast and that's no good!


As for the "newer" Sonic games, for Sonic Adventure DX I thought it was brilliant when i bought it and frankly I still love it, save for the Amy and Big campaigns which are in fact completely atrocious to play and I stop playing when i beat all except for them. I thought Black Knight was way too slow and a bit too difficult but I can agree with what Sonicbrawler said earlier with that it had a pretty solid story, and even if you disagree it doesn't make it untrue, it's something that hasn't been done, which basically means originality (Even though you can argue it's just the story of Camelot in a Sonic game) Which is it but it's still unique for a Sonic game as opposed to just 'Uhhh, idfk, go fahst'. For Unleashed, it was fun for half of it, I agree with that, the werehog parts were kind of annoying and the hub world pissed me off, Colors I didn't like but I appreciate what they were trying to do. Generations is completely solid in my opinion, because it is what it is, it's a nostalgia playback with better graphics and that's fine by me, it was fun and wasn't too story oriented. I like the Seven Rings game or whatever is was called, I actually did, others may not have but this one I'm calling my secret obsession (Even though i haven't played it in years.)

One thing you can't deny is that for the most part the Sonic games music is great, I've never hated a Sonic soundtrack, now consider the fact I have not play all the Sonic games and therefore haven't heard all the soundtracks.

Even if you hate Sonic and SonicTeam at least they try to diversify in a certain sense, I mean, it's always gonna be 'go fast' but at least they try to change things up albeit even if only a little.


Iunno, these are my opinions, hate me if you want. disagree with me if you want. I just ask that if you disagree with my opinions you tell me in a civilized manner so i can appreciate your opinions aswell as opposed to me feeling crappy and you looking like a buttface.

Also I used to be friends with a large portion of the Sonic fanbase and while there are a lot of dicks and morons a lot of them are fairly understanding and can even admit when a Sonic game sucks.

Most people when they share their opinions of Sonic are either on the side of "Sonic games suck because they do" or "**** you, Sonic is good because I played it when I was a kid so it's obviously good." There are others but these are the main two. I'm kind of the inbetweener because I started during my teenage years and so i don't see it really with nostalgia glasses, but I enjoyed the games, save for a few which i didn't like which makes me unbiased for the most part.


Sonic Boom: rise of Lyric looks like crap tho so I'll give it my score which is based on the way IGN scores things

9/10 it was p bad

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Now that my little rant is over let me just say that I agree, the Genesis games are p solid, but there is one aspect that isn't that great.See, in the old games you wanna go fast, it's the appeal and what makes it so different from other platformer games for the most part, but there are so many speed traps that it seems like the game is punishing you for going fast and that's no good!

The game is not punishing you for going fast, it's punishing you for not going reacting to obstacles while going fast.

Whether it's a 2D or 3D game, at the end of the day, Sonic games are usually action platformers. They give you the ability to go fast, but if the game just let you run to the goal with nothing to stop you, it would be boring. The whole point of a Sonic game is generally to move fast while keeping the momentum and flow going. Doesn't matter whether it's Classic Sonic, Adventure, the Storybook games, or the modern games. That's what the core of most mainline Sonic games is.

Now of course, sometimes the level design in Sonic is not perfect, and you do have cheap shots as a result, and even the Classics are no exception to that. Sonic 2 in particular is well known for being the "cheapest" Classic Sonic game in terms of level obstacles and where they are placed (Metropolis Zone being the infamous, quintessential example of this in the game).

In that sense, Sonic games are not very different to any other popular platforming franchise. However, what sets Sonic apart is the EXTENT of the speed you can reach, and the way the levels interact with Sonic in a much more organic way than in other platformers. There aren't really other games like Sonic in that regard. Closest games I can think of are Rayman Origins and Rayman Legends.

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Quote: Lunarz

Quote: zer0dch

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The sonic fandom is like the worst fandom ever. they ***** about everything but the genese games like they're from god or something. the genesis titles have flaws too but no instead of pointing out those you put on your nostolgia goggles and complain about anything new that comes out before even trying it. here i have a piece of advece for you:

Take off your nostolgia goggle and wake up there are flaws in ALL sonic games not just the new ones.
Dont be an A@@ hole to other peoples opinions they can play any game they like without you ****ting on them.

What pot are you smoking? The Genesis Sonic games are pretty good and aged like fine wine. Could you pinpoint a few flaws for me in the Genesis Sonic titles (1-3&K)?

The new game is literally trash. The biggest Sonic fan on twitter game the game a 0/10, making remarks that Sonic Boom is tiresome and depressing to play.
There's also a handful of glitches and bugs. It doesn't even play like a Sonic fan.

TBH I despise darkSpyro for the fact no one can have a decent discussion and debate rather than a fight with people just butting heads, i appreciate that everyone has opinions and while people may not understand others viewpoints they aren't that person and therefore by telling them they are wrong are making no sense because opinions are completely subjective

Now that my little rant is over let me just say that I agree, the Genesis games are p solid, but there is one aspect that isn't that great.See, in the old games you wanna go fast, it's the appeal and what makes it so different from other platformer games for the most part, but there are so many speed traps that it seems like the game is punishing you for going fast and that's no good!


As for the "newer" Sonic games, for Sonic Adventure DX I thought it was brilliant when i bought it and frankly I still love it, save for the Amy and Big campaigns which are in fact completely atrocious to play and I stop playing when i beat all except for them. I thought Black Knight was way too slow and a bit too difficult but I can agree with what Sonicbrawler said earlier with that it had a pretty solid story, and even if you disagree it doesn't make it untrue, it's something that hasn't been done, which basically means originality (Even though you can argue it's just the story of Camelot in a Sonic game) Which is it but it's still unique for a Sonic game as opposed to just 'Uhhh, idfk, go fahst'. For Unleashed, it was fun for half of it, I agree with that, the werehog parts were kind of annoying and the hub world pissed me off, Colors I didn't like but I appreciate what they were trying to do. Generations is completely solid in my opinion, because it is what it is, it's a nostalgia playback with better graphics and that's fine by me, it was fun and wasn't too story oriented. I like the Seven Rings game or whatever is was called, I actually did, others may not have but this one I'm calling my secret obsession (Even though i haven't played it in years.)

One thing you can't deny is that for the most part the Sonic games music is great, I've never hated a Sonic soundtrack, now consider the fact I have not play all the Sonic games and therefore haven't heard all the soundtracks.

Even if you hate Sonic and SonicTeam at least they try to diversify in a certain sense, I mean, it's always gonna be 'go fast' but at least they try to change things up albeit even if only a little.


Iunno, these are my opinions, hate me if you want. disagree with me if you want. I just ask that if you disagree with my opinions you tell me in a civilized manner so i can appreciate your opinions aswell as opposed to me feeling crappy and you looking like a buttface.

Also I used to be friends with a large portion of the Sonic fanbase and while there are a lot of dicks and morons a lot of them are fairly understanding and can even admit when a Sonic game sucks.

Most people when they share their opinions of Sonic are either on the side of "Sonic games suck because they do" or "**** you, Sonic is good because I played it when I was a kid so it's obviously good." There are others but these are the main two. I'm kind of the inbetweener because I started during my teenage years and so i don't see it really with nostalgia glasses, but I enjoyed the games, save for a few which i didn't like which makes me unbiased for the most part.


Sonic Boom: rise of Lyric looks like crap tho so I'll give it my score which is based on the way IGN scores things

9/10 it was p bad

I suppose you didn't know that the Genesis games were momentum based, and I suppose you don't know how to avoid most traps by transforming into the ball (w/e you call it).

I'll give you this, Sonic 1 is a little punishing for no fair reason, but it's still pretty solid. Sonic 2 improved on everything and made it superb.

Maybe I didn't

I should have clarified, I was leaning towards Sonic 1 for the speed trap kind of thing.

Quote: Lunarz

Sonic Boom: rise of Lyric looks like crap tho so I'll give it my score which is based on the way IGN scores things

9/10 it was p bad

It's funny because IGN used to get a lot of **** from Sonic fans for rating the games too low.

This is a TV tie in though. >_>

Oh dear

EDIT:

From the credits:



THEY KNEW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVp4uHInGh8

somebody buy me a wiiu so i can buy this masterpiece

Quote: Big Green

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVp4uHInGh8

TUMBLING DOOOOOWWWNN

Someone beat the game in 51 minutes. It's on YouTube. HAHA

Quote: zer0dch

Someone beat the game in 51 minutes. It's on YouTube. HAHA

I watched the stream of that.

The chat of that stream is going down in internet history.

Quote: sonicbrawler182

Oh dear

EDIT:

From the credits:



THEY KNEW

Half of those names are aliases.

get 'sonic generations' that's all you need...... best sonic games since the first game on the sega.....

I wanted a Wii U just to play Sonic Boom, fortunately I came to my sense before parting with my money, phew!

Quote: NGC

I wanted a Wii U just to play Sonic Boom, fortunately I came to my sense before parting with my money, phew!

Holy ****. Glad you came to your senses.

If you need a WiiU, buy it for Smash.

Why don't they just make a god damn Sonic Adventure 3 already (NO SONIC 06 DOSEN'T COUNT)
As sad as it is, I will always be biased towards Sonic 06 because it's my first video game ever and it's pretty much my whole childhood :I

But seriously Sonic 2D games are my least favourite, yeah I said it. Sonic 4: E2 is alright and the Genesis games are good, but the DS and 3DS games are just bad.

But really, IMO:

Sonic Generations>SA2>Sonic Unleashed>SA1>Sonic 06>Sonic 3>Others

Quote: CommanderGame

Why don't they just make a god damn Sonic Adventure 3 already (NO SONIC 06 DOSEN'T COUNT)
As sad as it is, I will always be biased towards Sonic 06 because it's my first video game ever and it's pretty much my whole childhood :I

But seriously Sonic 2D games are my least favourite, yeah I said it. Sonic 4: E2 is alright and the Genesis games are good, but the DS and 3DS games are just bad.

But really, IMO:

Sonic Generations>SA2>Sonic Unleashed>SA1>Sonic 06>Sonic 3>Others

Sonic 06 was the first game you ever played? Damn. Now I DO feel old.

Also, you're asking for a but much. You don't have the nostalgia of the Adventure series back when it came out. P:

The Adventure games aged like **** too. Sonic 06 also happens to be SA3 without the Chao garden.

Quote: Sesshomaru75

Maybe this is because I'm not a Sonic fan, but I like the character redesigns. Yeah, I said it.
They actually look like improvements to me, and I'm sure that if they had looked like this to begin with, nobody would even care.

Not gonna get the games, though, as there's absolutely no point in it for me.

People accepted the redesigns a long time ago. They were just shocking when they were unveiled, partly because the initial renders did not do them justice.

I personally think Knuckles looks great in particular. I like how he now has the build to go with his strength.

Knuckles looks overdesigned, tbh.

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Quote: NGC

I wanted a Wii U just to play Sonic Boom, fortunately I came to my sense before parting with my money, phew!

Holy ****. Glad you came to your senses.

If you need a WiiU, buy it for Smash.

Or MK8, or Wonderful 101, or any of the Mario games, anything except Boom, really.

Quote: TTD

They need to make a generations 2!
I only played the ones on the genesis/ mega drive, heroes, generations and 4.
If they can't make a generations 2, they should hire a developer to develop new 16 bit games and publish them on PSN or the eShop.
Something like this would be AMAZING

Generations 2 would be awesome.

That fan made Sonic game looks alright from the fifteen seconds I watched of it.