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57/60+ Skylanders Idea :)
gillgrunt32 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3283
#1 Posted: 23:50:09 10/09/2014 | Topic Creator
i think Activation or Toys for Bob wouldn't have different amounts of skylanders in different elements like Magic, Fire, Life, Air And Water Has 7
and Undead,Earth And Tech Have 6 i think they might be hiding something and even with the question marks on the poster that's still only 57/60+
skylanders and they wouldn't Counting Variants in that number because they have never done that before so why would they start now? My Guess is 8 Per element that way there would be 64 Skylanders in Trap Team smilie
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#2 Posted: 00:01:43 11/09/2014
I have a feeling there will be a space element. It's just a hunch.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#3 Posted: 00:03:13 11/09/2014
That would work if we were talking about completely new characters.
We are talking about reposes.

They can do whatever they want with reposes.
Moreover, the poster has already been revealed, and there are only 5 reposes.
They would put them on the poster, if they existed.

You know what would actually unbalance everything?
A new Element with only 4 characters.

Think about it.
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#4 Posted: 00:09:14 11/09/2014
More elements would also mess up the heads and tails concept of the elements.
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#5 Posted: 00:30:02 11/09/2014
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More elements would also mess up the heads and tails concept of the elements.



Yes, indeed.
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#6 Posted: 00:41:58 11/09/2014 | Topic Creator
there wont be a new element they might have new skylanders that don't have an element or maybe Split element such as in Fire/Water that would be awesome smilie
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#7 Posted: 01:04:57 11/09/2014
^That would make steam.
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#8 Posted: 01:05:48 11/09/2014
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^That would make steam.



Or obsidian. smilie
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#9 Posted: 01:26:08 11/09/2014
^That would require lava, not fire.
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#10 Posted: 01:30:19 11/09/2014
Quote: undeadmaster
^That would require lava, not fire.



That's true, but basic Elements such as Air, Water, Earth and Fire can have a lot of minor elements in them (storm, cloud, wind, ice, snow, diamons, sand, stone, lava).
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#11 Posted: 02:37:32 11/09/2014
Dual elements wouldn't be too bad if that's what they are
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#12 Posted: 02:45:55 11/09/2014
But you can already habe dual element skylanders via swappers. If that was a new game's gimmick I would be sorely pissed off because that would add literally nothing to the gme we don't already have.
Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#13 Posted: 09:21:00 11/09/2014
Quote: GinjaNinja
But you can already habe dual element skylanders via swappers. If that was a new game's gimmick I would be sorely pissed off because that would add literally nothing to the gme we don't already have.



Well, that's not completely correct.

The powers of a swapped characters, while sometimes able to mix, mostly remain separated.

An ice dash of Freeze Blade, combined with the fire breath of Blast Zone would remain separate attacks, they wouldn't create, for example, a steam barrier.

Instead, a dual elements "regular" Skylander would have powers from both the Elements that he is made of.

Here are some examples:
Water+Fire: steam
Water+Earth: sand, or mud
Fire+Earth: lava
Air+Water: rain

But, again, TfB and V.V. can always add characters from one of those sub-elements by placing them inside one of the main 8 Elements.
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#14 Posted: 13:27:56 11/09/2014
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More elements would also mess up the heads and tails concept of the elements.


Unless there are TWO new elements that are heads and tails with each other.
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#15 Posted: 14:05:12 11/09/2014
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Quote: Snap Shot
More elements would also mess up the heads and tails concept of the elements.


Unless there are TWO new elements that are heads and tails with each other.


But then there would be only 2 characters per Element, and that would unbalance the whole roster even more.
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#16 Posted: 15:51:14 11/09/2014
Quote: Drek95
Quote: GinjaNinja
But you can already habe dual element skylanders via swappers. If that was a new game's gimmick I would be sorely pissed off because that would add literally nothing to the gme we don't already have.



Well, that's not completely correct.

The powers of a swapped characters, while sometimes able to mix, mostly remain separated.

An ice dash of Freeze Blade, combined with the fire breath of Blast Zone would remain separate attacks, they wouldn't create, for example, a steam barrier.

Instead, a dual elements "regular" Skylander would have powers from both the Elements that he is made of.

Here are some examples:
Water+Fire: steam
Water+Earth: sand, or mud
Fire+Earth: lava
Air+Water: rain

But, again, TfB and V.V. can always add characters from one of those sub-elements by placing them inside one of the main 8 Elements.


I was gonna say, they've done ice in every game. Ice would be water + air. So that already kinda disproves your point, though I do get what you are saying about the abilities. But say they did make those types of characters, steam would just be an air type (presumably, as steam is air), sand/mud would be earth, lava would be fire, and rain would be water. That's the hard part: practically every single thing we can think of for a new weeny can fit nice and neat into the already existing 8.
If there is a new element I needs to have almost NOTHING to do with the other 8 in a way. Otherwise it could haveeasily just been a part of those element. I'm not exactly for new element, I like having just 8, but if they do it right and it fits well, I'll be more than happy to accept a new element. Like when pokemon added fairy type. But a dual element skylander can't ever be a new thing, it's cheap and lazy. But there, that's my two cents.
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#17 Posted: 16:19:54 11/09/2014
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Quote: GinjaNinja
But you can already habe dual element skylanders via swappers. If that was a new game's gimmick I would be sorely pissed off because that would add literally nothing to the gme we don't already have.



Well, that's not completely correct.

The powers of a swapped characters, while sometimes able to mix, mostly remain separated.

An ice dash of Freeze Blade, combined with the fire breath of Blast Zone would remain separate attacks, they wouldn't create, for example, a steam barrier.

Instead, a dual elements "regular" Skylander would have powers from both the Elements that he is made of.

Here are some examples:
Water+Fire: steam
Water+Earth: sand, or mud
Fire+Earth: lava
Air+Water: rain

But, again, TfB and V.V. can always add characters from one of those sub-elements by placing them inside one of the main 8 Elements.


I was gonna say, they've done ice in every game. Ice would be water + air. So that already kinda disproves your point, though I do get what you are saying about the abilities. But say they did make those types of characters, steam would just be an air type (presumably, as steam is air), sand/mud would be earth, lava would be fire, and rain would be water. That's the hard part: practically every single thing we can think of for a new weeny can fit nice and neat into the already existing 8.
If there is a new element I needs to have almost NOTHING to do with the other 8 in a way. Otherwise it could haveeasily just been a part of those element. I'm not exactly for new element, I like having just 8, but if they do it right and it fits well, I'll be more than happy to accept a new element. Like when pokemon added fairy type. But a dual element skylander can't ever be a new thing, it's cheap and lazy. But there, that's my two cents.


Exactly, that's the point.

Even a Dark element would fit in Undead, and a Time one in Magic!

If they want to add a new element, it must be something INCREDIBLY creative and unexpected.
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#18 Posted: 19:48:21 11/09/2014
Quote: Drek95
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More elements would also mess up the heads and tails concept of the elements.


Unless there are TWO new elements that are heads and tails with each other.


But then there would be only 2 characters per Element, and that would unbalance the whole roster even more.


Well, we'll see soon. If the two new ones were outside of the core of light, I don't see that it matters so much for it to be balanced with the others.
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#19 Posted: 20:12:09 11/09/2014
I agree with the original post. They probably just didn't put the last three reposes on the poster to leave us guessing and debating. The ones they did show all come out in the first two waves, so it makes sense why they were show those five and not the others.

As for the new elements, I'm still on the fence. I'm stuck between either that there are two new elements with one core and a mini for those cores each, or it's one element with two Trap Masters and two cores.
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#20 Posted: 21:11:52 11/09/2014
Let's see. Well they've allready proven they can have skylanders of 'one type' in another. That's Spyro. Granted he's in it cuz he can do alot of elements... but still. I mean he's practically a fire Skylander... only his Soul gem move has an element that's not fire (with the expception of Dark Spyro Series 1 on 3DS).

As for unballanced... umm hello it's allready unballanced... beenn that way since Swapforce when they gave Undead 2 series 3s. And in this case... they are missing 3 or so reposes... and that's according to the poster... I mean unless it's the ? spots 3 elements are getting 1 less skylander than the others.

Not to metion the fact that there's 10 of those special bosses acording to the poster... which is the 8 normal elements Plus Kaos.. which only gives you 9... again it leaves room for a new/special element.

And honlestly I'm just pointing out things that coould verify the thoery that people tend to over look. But unitl it's revealed, it's still anyone's guess.

on another note... as for the Rock Paper Scizzors's or coint flip thing... honestly did they even do that in Swap Force? Cuz it wasn't in the battle arena mode. So with just that.. it's possible that it's just not going to matter.

otherwise there's still 2 other options. actually 3. 1) it'll start it's own group of 'coin flip' thing. *for furture elements.* 2) a nuetral element, which simply won't be apart of the main elements as it won't counter nor be countered another element. *like most Mabu seem to be this element.* 3) they interject the new element into the circle. Depending on what it is, it could easily fit between two other elements. Like say Ice *just an example ignoring other things right now.* could fit in between Fire and air. as Fire beats Ice... but ice beats air. (well it does in pokemon.. though they call it flying.. but just an example.)
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#21 Posted: 10:57:19 12/09/2014
The three question marks for Undead, Life, and Water are clearly the three characters from the naming contest from spring, right?

My step son is convinced (and it makes sense) that the last four figures in the upper-right corner are the introduction of two new elements, and I tend to agree with him. Why else would they be separated from the other eight elements, and divided into groups of two themselves? Not to mention the super villains also have one character for each element, and there are two unknown characters.

I think this is something they haven't mentioned yet. Personally, I think Space and Time elements would be pretty sweet.
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#22 Posted: 12:09:06 12/09/2014
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The three question marks for Undead, Life, and Water are clearly the three characters from the naming contest from spring, right?

My step son is convinced (and it makes sense) that the last four figures in the upper-right corner are the introduction of two new elements, and I tend to agree with him. Why else would they be separated from the other eight elements, and divided into groups of two themselves? Not to mention the super villains also have one character for each element, and there are two unknown characters.

I think this is something they haven't mentioned yet. Personally, I think Space and Time elements would be pretty sweet.


Yes, those question marks in the Undead, Life and Water Elements are the Fito Lay contest characters.
Their figures have even been revealed, when the first image of the poster was found.

If they do add 2 new Elements, one will be the Kaos one (since Kaos already has an elemental symbol, next to his picture).
One of the two question marks among the Doom Riders belongs to the Magic one.

However, those question marks Skylanders aren't necessarily from two Elements.
Trap Masters and Cores are separated.

They could easily be two new Trap Masters and two new Core characters.

Even if they said there are going to be only 16 Trap Masters...

Mmmh...
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#23 Posted: 15:04:17 12/09/2014
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Quote: PlayableMoogle
The three question marks for Undead, Life, and Water are clearly the three characters from the naming contest from spring, right?

My step son is convinced (and it makes sense) that the last four figures in the upper-right corner are the introduction of two new elements, and I tend to agree with him. Why else would they be separated from the other eight elements, and divided into groups of two themselves? Not to mention the super villains also have one character for each element, and there are two unknown characters.

I think this is something they haven't mentioned yet. Personally, I think Space and Time elements would be pretty sweet.


Yes, those question marks in the Undead, Life and Water Elements are the Fito Lay contest characters.
Their figures have even been revealed, when the first image of the poster was found.

If they do add 2 new Elements, one will be the Kaos one (since Kaos already has an elemental symbol, next to his picture).
One of the two question marks among the Doom Riders belongs to the Magic one.

However, those question marks Skylanders aren't necessarily from two Elements.
Trap Masters and Cores are separated.

They could easily be two new Trap Masters and two new Core characters.

Even if they said there are going to be only 16 Trap Masters...

Mmmh...


I don't buy that they'd be two new trap masters and two new cores of the same elements. Why wouldn't they be in with the rest of their element if that was the case? I'm just saying that in order for those four question marks to be existing elements, the poster would have to have inconsistencies that don't seem likely to me. My second guess would be special (holiday?) variants, but for reasons others have already listed, that seems unlikely, too.
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