darkSpyro

Quote: Nightmoon

Looks like it's been taken down or turned member-only. Shame.

Summary: Purple base plate (not mentioned in article, but shown in pictures), gold elemental base, improved paint job (though I don't see much difference in Chop-Chop), 8 characters (elements weren't mentioned, but it's extremely likely to be one of each) - only Spyro and Chop-Chop confirmed, but confirmed to only be characters from the original game, not Giants or Swap-Force. And they'll appear the same in-game (in every game?), but deal 3 times as much damage.

Chop chop has a gold "dusting" on his bones, I think his new paint job looks pretty cool actually.

Edit: added "paint job"

I'll get Spyro, though I probably won't bother with the rest. The only time I believe a remake of existing characters like this is needed is if the original characters have become incredibly hard to find.

Spyro's all I'll be getting, the others that will probably be elites all were kind of "meh" to me.

Quote: Kung Fu Man

You know, it bothers me but...weren't the bloomin' "Legendaries" supposed to be the elite of the elite when it came to the Skylanders? At least those counted as individual entities. This is something you'd release on an anniversary, not when half your audience is on the fence with your next game still!

Yeah, but since people refuse to call it that, it gave another reason to make these instead now.

Here we had so many people complaining that Activision wasn't catering to the adult collectors other than the uncannily rare chase figures and common recolored figures, and now we have this: Something obviously meant for collectors. If these things are chase variants, I will be annoyed.


I wonder when they'll release them.

I'd rather they cater to the adult gamers a bit more. I'm fine with the collectors getting yet another thing to burn their wallets on. Their rapid obsession with collecting all these chase figures has helped the game make billions. I just want the game itself to evolve in the same fashion.

Quote: Matteomax

Here we had so many people complaining that Activision wasn't catering to the adult collectors other than the uncannily rare chase figures and common recolored figures, and now we have this: Something obviously meant for collectors. If these things are chase variants, I will be annoyed.


I wonder when they'll release them.

I assume that they'll be at launch. They said Fall and Trap Team releases in fall so... Maybe!

Quote: ninja9351

These more than likely will be the Elite.

Confirmed

Magic-Spyo
Undead-Chop Chop

Unconfirmed

Tech-Trigger Happy
Life-Stealth Elf
Fire-Eruptor
Water-Gill Grunt
Earth-Terrafin
Air-Whirlwind

Yep I agree. There may be a swing for Prism Break for earth, that one will be close. I expect Trigs, but there could be a Drobot upset. All they've done here is find a way to sell us stuff they've sold to us already. Hey, if folks want to buy another version, have at it. For me, not so much.

So I have decided to post this in here as it brings up a very controversial trend that I tend to see. How are these chase figures? They do 3X the amount of damage. Do people just not know the difference..........or is it the other one where people just don't care for stats anymore?

Quote: WickedRogue

So I have decided to post this in here as it brings up a very controversial trend that I tend to see. How are these chase figures? They do 3X the amount of damage. Do people just not know the difference..........or is it the other one where people just don't care for stats anymore?

Normally special edition figures are just called "chase figures", and in this case these are VERY special (Do to the x3 damage multiplier)


Also who wants a Boomer Eon Elite? (Although Trigs might get the spot)

Quote: WickedRogue

So I have decided to post this in here as it brings up a very controversial trend that I tend to see. How are these chase figures? They do 3X the amount of damage. Do people just not know the difference..........or is it the other one where people just don't care for stats anymore?

Stats are basically meaningless, because the game is not difficult even on the hardest setting, and many have maxed out everything with heroics, hats and quests.

Too many people are saying that they are 3x as powerful. It clearly states that they are up to 3x as powerful. That is a huge difference. That can include anything from 1 to 3.

Quote: wgeorge111

Too many people are saying that they are 3x as powerful. It clearly states that they are up to 3x as powerful. That is a huge difference. That can include anything from 1 to 3.

I'm thinking after maxing out levels, proper hat, heroic quest addition (s) and so on...they numerically are 3x more powerful.

So basically people don't care for stats and then wonder why the game isn't online yet? Do you know how important stats are for things like PVP and Nightmare Mode? It sounds to me like if these do have new Wow Pow's it will only be for Trap Team...but if the stats carry over to all 3 games, just Swap Force alone it's a huge difference. I don't get why this is downplayed so much for importance.

Remember, this game is mainly aimed at a younger audience.
Kids don't care about stats, they just want to play the game!

Quote: uttster13

Remember, this game is mainly aimed at a younger audience.
Kids don't care about stats, they just want to play the game!

They wouldn't want these as they already have them to play with then.

This feels like they felt compelled to do reposes for Spyro and Trigger Happy, but we're out of decent ideas (understandably so). So the next best think was a new paint job, some extra power and a special name. I imagine the designers are thinking "what the heck are we going to do for S5?"

I do like these better then a repose, for sure, and Sypro and chop chop are favorites for the kids, so there's a good chance these will be wanted.

We dont need the same character another x3 the normal power level though. I can find a series 1 and repaint the thing if I want it to look better. We dont need to keep churning out reposes. Let a character hit their max with a S4. Give them some ability that opens up both paths with the S4. Let the character be retired at that point. It finally makes the character rarer because they are done. its not like poor Spyro has been a major plot element since the first game. Let him move on in peace and enjoy his golden years with Cynder on some beach somewhere collecting his royalty checks.

This comes across as nothing more than Skylanders trying to pull a move from online games with the whole "Pay to Win" premise.

The only thing that's good about these is that these are good implications that we may not get series 4 of these characters. That is if all are guys who got three versions and I really want the more underrated and less focused Skylanders to get reposed since someone has to.

If they are 3x more powerful in previous games I could get some for my son and we could do 2 player Nightmare mode.

Activision is smart. Regardless of all these discussions of whether there is a need for 3x power or another repose, there's a collector market and enough people with the "collect them all" attitude out there such that these will move off the shelves...at release, you'll see the heavily inflated EBay prices creating a slightly artificial rarity factor above and beyond the hype they're creating right now by throwing phrases out there like "extremely limited quantities" - marketing geniuses if you ask me. It'll be interesting exactly how many of these will actually be put up for sale. It has to be enough quantities to make the product profitable for both Activision and GameStop...otherwise, I don't see the point in marketing and producing them. I just hope shady GameStop employees don't snatch them up when shipments arrive, leaving collectors empty-handed.

Its fine for the collectors side of the game's market, yes. For the game itself and its continued lively hood it does nothing. I dont care they are doing these figures to make even more money. Let them. The issue is these figures were the focus point of the panel at SDCC, not anything about Trap Team.

Quote: GothamLord

Its fine for the collectors side of the game's market, yes. For the game itself and its continued lively hood it does nothing. I dont care they are doing these figures to make even more money. Let them. The issue is these figures were the focus point of the panel at SDCC, not anything about Trap Team.

---Good Point Gotham....remember though, the name of the game is secrecy. No need to let on to Disney or Nintendo of possible advances in tech or gameplay ( not saying there is any ) while they are next door. At this point, I don't think any kind of bombshell ( if any ) will be released to the public until 2 weeks or so before drop date. Of course i'm just speculating but Activision sure does seem to have a bug up their ass regarding youtube videos and such involving material being released.

As for the figures, I'm down for getting a couple...not going to break the bank for all of them tho. I figure with them being "collectors editions" they will also want "collectors pricing" those are $4.00 figures at walmart. Collectors pricing will be around $20-30 im betting, if not more. I don't want to pay more than $20 unless the casing is acrylic, which I highly doubt. In the end tho, I'll get suckered into $30, if need be, but so not going into the $50-$100 range for a repaint in a thin plastic shell. I'll crap a whale if they are released at standard $10 cost.

Quote: WickedRogue

So basically people don't care for stats and then wonder why the game isn't online yet? Do you know how important stats are for things like PVP and Nightmare Mode? It sounds to me like if these do have new Wow Pow's it will only be for Trap Team...but if the stats carry over to all 3 games, just Swap Force alone it's a huge difference. I don't get why this is downplayed so much for importance.

The notion of competitive PVP is irrelevant to many people without online. I'd like to play serious PVP where I should consider my path and how much damage I can do. However, the only opponents I have are my family and none of them are competitive about games, nor do any of them choose to play games much. They're just pretty average at Skylanders and, while I don't mean to toot my own horn, I'm so much better that they've all used "Mr Cheap" the Honey Tree Bumble Blast and have lost to me while using him. When my opponents are that easy, there's no real point to thinking about damage, stun etc. because I already know many of their strategies (which are usually very simplistic, because they don't know much about the game). And they don't want to learn more, because they just like playing games casually. I'm not going to try and force them to learn every little mechanic to become better players when they don't want to- it's just a video game and it's supposed to be fun, but fun is very subjective and if they find fun in playing it the way they do, then I don't want to potentially ruin that.

I agree with most of the rest, though.

Quote: GothamLord

We dont need the same character another x3 the normal power level though. I can find a series 1 and repaint the thing if I want it to look better. We dont need to keep churning out reposes. Let a character hit their max with a S4. Give them some ability that opens up both paths with the S4. Let the character be retired at that point. It finally makes the character rarer because they are done. its not like poor Spyro has been a major plot element since the first game. Let him move on in peace and enjoy his golden years with Cynder on some beach somewhere collecting his royalty checks.

This comes across as nothing more than Skylanders trying to pull a move from online games with the whole "Pay to Win" premise.

You say 'we', and a lot of people share your opinion, but far from unanimously. I imagine the majority of people aren't as inclined to do a custom paint job as you are, nor are they capable of doing it with this kind of quality. I do some customs, and they don't suck, but they aren't great either.

Given the choice of this or no new Spyro, I would have prefered no new Spyro. It is a money grab, but I'm not terribly annoyed with it. They are feeding off people's addictive personalities, like most successful companies do.

As far as pricing goes though, they won't get me to spend a ton on this. I hope it's priced at the usual $10. I might be willing to pay a couple bucks more, since it may come with a case (that I don't want), but I don't want to shell out $20 for retail. I believe we had a thread that are stated what the different pricing was going to be, so I don't think we'll be surprised here. I also assume that they are going to make these in decent quantities, no reason not too.

"We" however does work unanimously when I said NEED. People might like them. People might still buy them. People might even enjoy them. But we dont NEED these kinda figures again.

And I am inclined to agree. I would have preferred no Spyro this go round, rather than this. Making these character takes away from time and energy of making other characters and as stated its clearly a cash grab.

Didnt we have some unknown Skylander toy pegged at like $40. Could this be it ??

The two revealed Elite Skylanders are available for preorder on EB Games Australia for $29.95? A bit pricey for me...

You are all missing something totally obvious - the article states that the characters will be up to 3x as more powerful and have different upgrades in all of the Skylanders games. This is not possible due to the way that the character data is stored - no stat/upgrade data exists on a character's chip, so the only way they could have different data is if the game contains extra code for those characters - which the first three games do not.
Therefore, I believe that no in game differences can possibly exist for these three characters in the first 3 Skylanders games, but there is a possibility that differences will appear in later games.

Also, has there been an official announcement of this? I have seen a couple of articles based on this one, but I have not seen an official announcement. Could it be that this is a hoax?

Um, check YouTube. There are multiple videos for the "Chosen" regarding this. CoinOP, SkylanderBoy and Girl, 1ofWiisdom. Its legit.

EB Games in Australian has them for pre-order.

https://ebgames.com.au/ps3-203...p-PlayStation-3

$30? that's just not worth it. Very disappointed.

Three times the power, at three times the cost. Huzzah!

Quote: ShaneK

https://ebgames.com.au/ps3-203...p-PlayStation-3

$30? that's just not worth it. Very disappointed.

Battle/Adventure/Triple packs from EB games are also $30AUS, so you can expect a $25US/£25 kind of area for these. They are 'limited collectables', that's not so much of a shock.

30 x 8 = 240 $! I'm really screwed! :'(

Quote: melvimbe

This feels like they felt compelled to do reposes for Spyro and Trigger Happy, but we're out of decent ideas (understandably so). So the next best think was a new paint job, some extra power and a special name. I imagine the designers are thinking "what the heck are we going to do for S5?"

I do like these better then a repose, for sure, and Sypro and chop chop are favorites for the kids, so there's a good chance these will be wanted.

I'm there now, but if they're thinking this then they have just a small feeling of dred that I feel now for the franchise. Time to think outside the box...if they want to survive.

$30? They've freakin' lost it. Wow. Go stick it, Activision. Wait, my dred level just leveled up.

Quote: jckelsall

You are all missing something totally obvious - the article states that the characters will be up to 3x as more powerful and have different upgrades in all of the Skylanders games. This is not possible due to the way that the character data is stored - no stat/upgrade data exists on a character's chip, so the only way they could have different data is if the game contains extra code for those characters - which the first three games do not.
Therefore, I believe that no in game differences can possibly exist for these three characters in the first 3 Skylanders games, but there is a possibility that differences will appear in later games.

Also, has there been an official announcement of this? I have seen a couple of articles based on this one, but I have not seen an official announcement. Could it be that this is a hoax?

100% agreed. First three games will look and feel like any other skylander...this OP will only apply to Trap Team and above. I can't wait for the complaints to pour in on this.

I understand the gold not showing up in previous games, but the OP of the characters could be in the original games too I believe. Because its just the stats, there is no reason why they can't have the stats on the toy buffed up. In the similar way that doing heroics changes your stats.

Yes the 18 extra heroics in giants don't affect you character in SSA but that's because the game doesn't recognize what "finishing this heroic challenge" is since it's not in the game. But its possible, and id almost say probable, that the game reads the base stats of the figure off the figure itself, instead of off the disc. This would mean that the elites could in fact be over powered in the original game, they would just appear normal.

Unless I'm completely wrong and character stats are just loaded from the game disc, which is also a possibility

If this is a stats boost stored on the figure... then resetting the figure would clear that boost, right?

Not if it was a core stat boost

wow...better start saving up...hope UK will get these, maybe at Game if at USA/Aus Gamestop

Seems strange that Activision is waiting to release these figures. They could have announced them and said they will be available for purchase next week. They have nothing to do with Trap Team. They could be making some money now while waiting on Trap Team to be released.

Quote: wgeorge111

Seems strange that Activision is waiting to release these figures. They could have announced them and said they will be available for purchase next week. They have nothing to do with Trap Team. They could be making some money now while waiting on Trap Team to be released.

Unless these stat boosts are part of Trap Team, which I am inclined to believe. There's never been a use case yet where a new repose with different abilities show up in previous games with those attributes.

Dude... if they make Bash a elite Skylander imagine how much his damage would be since he is already OP

Quote: scarletninjini

The two revealed Elite Skylanders are available for preorder on EB Games Australia for $29.95? A bit pricey for me...

That's just australian dollars...right...?

For reference, a regular Skylander core usually costs around $14 here and I think EB Games sell them for $16. So they'll cost about twice as much as a regular Skylander.

Quote: ShaneK

https://ebgames.com.au/ps3-203...p-PlayStation-3

$30? that's just not worth it. Very disappointed.

I can't see where it says Limited there, just special edition. Which means that there's a good chance of these hanging around shelves (in the UK at least) for a long time. Heck, you can still buy Pumpkin Eye-Brawl right now.

The announcement on Facebook doesn't seem to have gone down well either.

Quote: wgeorge111

Too many people are saying that they are 3x as powerful. It clearly states that they are up to 3x as powerful. That is a huge difference. That can include anything from 1 to 3.

How nice would it be if what they meant by 3Xs as powerful, was that powers from both upgrade paths and wow pows for each iteration of the figure could be unlocked simultaneously.

If that was the case I would buy elites in a heartbeat.

Since I(we) already have 5 Spyro's in our collection, kinda feel like I already have 5 times the power of just a 1. This is not needed for a higher cost if that's the case. I'm sure they will justify it because of the nice paint job and the acrylic case or whatever, but collectors leave it in the box, so...

The only one of Eon's Elite I am getting is Spyro, because he's my most favorite of the Magic Skylanders.

I'm curious if they will be true 'collectors' items. Instead of coming in packages, maybe nice display boxes?

Neato.

The base stats for each character are what's stored on the disc.

The only option they have for the older games is to have the characters maxed out with all heroic challenges, max the level, max the upgrades for a single path (or give you the gold to upgrade to the path of your choice), and have the most powerful SSA hat. These are the only traits that are stored on the character.

They could obviously do something special in Trap Team, but that would not be transferable to the older games without patching those games first.