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CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#1 Posted: 17:54:04 18/07/2014 | Topic Creator
DISCLAIMER: If you are not in the group, please don't start asking about what happened or who was involved.

So I saw what happened last night; read through the majority of it, and then got context from a little birdy. For the sake of privacy I will try to avoid naming the people involved with the problem.

I'm not going to speak much on the issue that lead up to what happened yesterday. I don't know all too much about it aside from what I've read. Matters of the heart can be confusing, yes. But regardless of that you should have the decency to tell the other person this, rather than them finding out on their own.

But that's not what we're here for is it? We're here because of the idea that a person's problems have no place in the Skype group. This new user in the group (we will call her Brazuca) supposedly has spoken a lot about her problems to you guys. One of my mods thinks that a separate group should be made for things like this and that it takes away from the discussions in the group itself.

I disagree.

When I remade the Skype group from the original owner, I envisioned it to be a place for people from the site (or associated with the site) to gather around, talk, enjoy themselves, and overall get on a new level of connectivity beyond what dS itself can provide. This includes the ability for someone in the group to talk to others about the problems they are dealing with. From what I'm told, Brazuca is showing signs (or even outright said) that she has depression and perhaps a lack of self-confidence (I'm terribly sorry if I'm wrong). That **** isn't something to play around with, and it's only expected that she try and find comfort and appreciation among people she considers her friends. Implying that she should do this elsewhere as to not interfere with conversations in the group (which tbh are largely nonsense) could only further harm her self esteem, and make her believe that she has only been a burden. That's really not cool.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that it's what you people meant to do. Nor do I think that Brazuca should make it a regular thing to come into the group and talk about what ails her. But we've often spoken about our problems to each other in the group. We're supposed to be friends right? Hell I used to do it too. I still would, except I'm afraid of running into the issues that came up last night, or just being ignored entirely.

Right, about that. To the people that are afraid of seeming insensitive or rude for not responding to someone's problems: You're only human. Sometimes you just can't help much or don't want to discuss it. It's fine. You're not being rude for engaging in your own conversation in the call or for going off to do something else. It's when NOBODY helps a person when it becomes a problem, and potentially rude. If you can't help much, simply say you can't help.

Consider me split down the middle, while still being biased as ****. The mod in question isn't wrong for thinking that these discussions detract from the rest of the group, especially when they happen on a daily basis and from the same person. When it reaches that point, the person in question (Brazuca) should probably cool it down a bit and also find a single person who she can trust in private. Also yeah the problem last night probably could've been done between the three people directly involved.

But at the same time, Brazuca has problems and has trusted the Skype group enough to talk to you guys about them. Shunning her will not help and implying she should make some sort of problem group for things like this is silly. The Skype group is intended to be fun and games, but also should be a place where we can help each other. I'm pretty certain I've said this in the past.

In other words, I'm siding with the other mod for the most part.
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ThroneOfMalefor Platinum Sparx Gems: 5538
#2 Posted: 18:22:29 18/07/2014
For the most part, I agree with all this. We should all remain in one group to avoid affairs or whatnot. What happened was completely uncalled for and I recognize my own portion of fault. My apologies to those I hurt.
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BREATHE AIR.
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#3 Posted: 18:27:21 18/07/2014 | Topic Creator
^I probably missed what you did since I don't recall you doing anything bad.
Rand O M Gold Sparx Gems: 2223
#4 Posted: 21:38:51 18/07/2014
I always assumed the Skype group was exclusive to certain members since it seemed to consist most of the favored and popular users I guess. Shane to see how what I thought is somewhat true.
Carmelita Fox Prismatic Sparx Gems: 12960
#5 Posted: 21:45:49 18/07/2014
the only popular user in there is me
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Troll Slug Ripto Gems: 2054
#6 Posted: 21:53:34 18/07/2014
^ Yes.
Rand O M Gold Sparx Gems: 2223
#7 Posted: 21:53:59 18/07/2014
Quote: Spyrobaro
Quote: Rand O M
I always assumed the Skype group was exclusive to certain members since it seemed to consist most of the favored and popular users I guess. Shane to see how what I thought is somewhat true.

Whoa wait what? Where did that come from?

The Skype Group is for everybody. The only people that aren't allowed in are people who were in it but did something very awful, and that's a VERY SMALL amount of people. Only 3 users (who are all ripto'd from dS now anyways) and my brother.



I know it's open to everybody, it's just it seems, and from what I've heard and seen in topics like these, that a certain group of users that are liked in S&N only seem to care about their group and no one else, and other members are left in the shadows and ignored. Granted I am not in the group and can't say for sure, it just seems to me that that group does not care for other users except those in their clique.
Carmelita Fox Prismatic Sparx Gems: 12960
#8 Posted: 21:55:13 18/07/2014
its not even an official skype group -- if you want a group you think will be free from bias and corruption -- gather up some dS friends and make your own
ThroneOfMalefor Platinum Sparx Gems: 5538
#9 Posted: 22:00:50 18/07/2014
I'm not popular, why am I in there? I don't even seem remotely popular, do I?
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BREATHE AIR.
somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 9384
#10 Posted: 22:15:39 18/07/2014
How did this become a popular topic from a bullying topic?
Carmelita Fox Prismatic Sparx Gems: 12960
#11 Posted: 22:17:20 18/07/2014
Quote: somePerson
How did this become a popular topic from a bullying topic?



because rand o m
plus the participants of the problem cav was talking about already have dealt with it (i think)
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CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#12 Posted: 22:30:39 18/07/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: Rand O M
I always assumed the Skype group was exclusive to certain members since it seemed to consist most of the favored and popular users I guess. Shane to see how what I thought is somewhat true.


Prysom was in the group for a time.
Skorpion was in the group for a time.
Bravo was in the group for a time.
Semp is still in the group despite having not posted on this site for 2 years.

Popular is certainly not the term I would use to describe the members of the Skype group. Not all of them at least.
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#13 Posted: 22:34:46 18/07/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: Rand O M
I know it's open to everybody, it's just it seems, and from what I've heard and seen in topics like these, that a certain group of users that are liked in S&N only seem to care about their group and no one else, and other members are left in the shadows and ignored. Granted I am not in the group and can't say for sure, it just seems to me that that group does not care for other users except those in their clique.


If you wish to come into the group, simply send your Skype info to me and ask. I know what it's like to deal with cliques (in the same way I have an idea what Brazuca is dealing with) and it's never fun. All of us became mainstays in the group for a reaso, and it's not hard for someone else to get in on it. Simply don't be an asshat and be older than 12 or so.

That applies to everybody, not just Random.
JCW555 Hunter Gems: 9191
#14 Posted: 22:38:49 18/07/2014
CAV did I do anything wrong?
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You gotta believe! Heh heh.
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#15 Posted: 22:41:08 18/07/2014 | Topic Creator
^I didn't see you in last night's logs so I guess not.
Carmelita Fox Prismatic Sparx Gems: 12960
#16 Posted: 22:41:52 18/07/2014
yeah what that guy said
Kitty Platinum Sparx Gems: 5106
#17 Posted: 22:50:06 18/07/2014
Quote: Rand O M
I always assumed the Skype group was exclusive to certain members since it seemed to consist most of the favored and popular users I guess. Shane to see how what I thought is somewhat true.


Not even close.
Rand O M Gold Sparx Gems: 2223
#18 Posted: 23:56:33 18/07/2014
Popular was the wrong word to use. Sorry about that.
HIR Diamond Sparx Gems: 9034
#19 Posted: 00:01:12 19/07/2014
Too bad Skype for Mac isn't well designed enough to handle a group chat of that magnitude. Bah. >.>
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CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#20 Posted: 00:02:30 19/07/2014 | Topic Creator
^Skype for Linux is worse. I guarantee it.
somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 9384
#21 Posted: 00:04:49 19/07/2014
Is it a mic chat or wordly chat?
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#22 Posted: 00:05:23 19/07/2014 | Topic Creator
^Both.
ReshiramForever Platinum Sparx Gems: 5331
#23 Posted: 00:09:55 19/07/2014
but believe me

im scared to talk to my friends through this ****ing group now because of all the depressing **** going on, and i havent joined calls consistently for months

maybe im an insensitive little asshole with no empathy, but

its nonstop

i hate it
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self professed austGAYlian
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#24 Posted: 00:14:01 19/07/2014 | Topic Creator
I'm an oblivious mofo so I probably don't know what I'm talking about here, but I haven't seen that much depression and problems within the group itself aside from the occasional argument and this recent stuff. Regardless, you shouldn't be afraid to talk to friends because somebody else in the chat (not the call) is having problems and someone else is already talking to them about it.

You can just say "I'm not sure how to help. Sorry" and they will find someone else or at least acknowledge that someone responded, even if it wasn't possible to help them. Just a few words can go a long way.

Either way, I'm going to pay more attention to the group and try and decrease the amount of sad in it. If something like it starts to come up, send me a message.
Thunderdragon14 Diamond Sparx Gems: 8392
#25 Posted: 00:17:40 19/07/2014
Quote: Spyrobaro
Quote: Rand O M
I always assumed the Skype group was exclusive to certain members since it seemed to consist most of the favored and popular users I guess. Shane to see how what I thought is somewhat true.

Whoa wait what? Where did that come from?

The Skype Group is for everybody. The only people that aren't allowed in are people who were in it but did something very awful, and that's a VERY SMALL amount of people. Only 3 users (who are all ripto'd from dS now anyways) and my brother.

i wasnt allowed in because they "weren't interested in ostrich sex flicks"
it's not like i was gonna go on about that anyways???
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go back to whining about your fish
Thunderdragon14 Diamond Sparx Gems: 8392
#26 Posted: 00:32:36 19/07/2014
Quote: Spyrobaro
Quote: Thunderdragon14
i wasnt allowed in because they "weren't interested in ostrich sex flicks"
it's not like i was gonna go on about that anyways???

Wait really? You serious?

yes
but it's ok i don't really care about it much lmao
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Quote: Alydol
go back to whining about your fish
Carmelita Fox Prismatic Sparx Gems: 12960
#27 Posted: 00:35:07 19/07/2014
hey man, i am a COLLECTOR of OSTRICH EXPLOITATION SNUFF FILMS, and you can talk to me ANYTIME.
somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 9384
#28 Posted: 00:51:37 19/07/2014
I could join but eh.
ReshiramForever Platinum Sparx Gems: 5331
#29 Posted: 01:21:38 19/07/2014
hh

im talking about the recent stuff, yeah

im fine with the group being used to sort out peoples depression and anxiety and all that **** when someone needs it but its just really grown to at least twice a day of this, consistent hug emotes and the like,

im sick of the sympathy mongering

because thats all its come down to
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self professed austGAYlian
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6417
#30 Posted: 01:44:53 19/07/2014 | Topic Creator
^I'll do what I can to fix that.
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