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LunarDistortion Ripto Gems: 3606
#2201 Posted: 20:24:54 15/07/2014
Quote: kardonis
Lucina is individual? **** you guys seriously. What a waste of a roster spot. They couldn't just make her a costume change OH NO they had to make her her own character, with BARELY ANY DIFFERENCE.



There aren't any set character slots, and it would've taken just as much time to make an alternate costume model as it would to make it a clone.
kardonis Platinum Sparx Gems: 6366
#2202 Posted: 20:38:13 15/07/2014
I don't care about the time! It's that if she's a different character, then that means she's replacing someone, or making it so someone new doesn't get in! It's a waste!
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LunarDistortion Ripto Gems: 3606
#2203 Posted: 20:43:56 15/07/2014
It doesn't mean any of that, for all we know no one has been cut from Brawl, it's due to time constraints if anyone is cut. Sakurai has already said that he hopes to get everyone from Brawl in this one.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#2204 Posted: 21:03:56 15/07/2014
Quote: kardonis
I don't care about the time! It's that if she's a different character, then that means she's replacing someone, or making it so someone new doesn't get in! It's a waste!



Sakurai finalised the character roster a few years ago.

Lucina was planned to be in the game from the beginning. However, making her a clone may be the result of time constraints. He did say that Dedede wasn't in Melee because he opted to make six clones instead, to beef up the roster.
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Windumup Emerald Sparx Gems: 3217
#2205 Posted: 21:11:37 15/07/2014
Quote: sonicbrawler182
Mega Man is not human, he's a robot.

Palutena is not a human, she's a goddess.

And Luma is not a human either...and Rosalina is an implied goddess who transcended her human state.


Megaman had been a human before (more specifically an EM wave form)
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Grimslinger91 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1330
#2206 Posted: 21:17:07 15/07/2014
Lucina is definitely not a waste of a spot. She looks nothing like a full clone like Young Link or Dr.Mario. She also looks like she has even more differences. She is from a game that had high sales and Lucina is requested and is perfect for this game. Also, Her sword heals 20 Hp in Awakening. Maybe getting healed a little bit could be her Neutral Special. The could make it so then it takes some time to get healed to make it balanced.
TacoMakerSkys Platinum Sparx Gems: 5652
#2207 Posted: 21:17:23 15/07/2014
Quote: kardonis
I don't care about the time! It's that if she's a different character, then that means she's replacing someone, or making it so someone new doesn't get in! It's a waste!



Why do you always throw a fit.
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kardonis Platinum Sparx Gems: 6366
#2208 Posted: 21:34:32 15/07/2014
Why do you pick fights with everyone? It's clear that they could have EASILY made her just a costume swap like what Mario and Little Mac and Wii Fit Trainers are getting, but they didn't. It means that they're just throwing in people to take spots, while there are ENDLESS possibilities of new, unique characters. It's a waste of space. It really is.
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hardcoreignitor Gold Sparx Gems: 2583
#2209 Posted: 21:42:30 15/07/2014
Quote: kardonis
Why do you pick fights with everyone? It's clear that they could have EASILY made her just a costume swap like what Mario and Little Mac and Wii Fit Trainers are getting, but they didn't. It means that they're just throwing in people to take spots, while there are ENDLESS possibilities of new, unique characters. It's a waste of space. It really is.


I'd rather just have her out completely. I was hyped for Lucina because I thought that she would not be a clone, but alas it seems that she's just a gender swapped Marth.

But I do agree that we need more original characters. (Back to another discussion, would Master Hand be considered human? I mean, he's a hand, but it's a human hand...)

Also, CRANKY KONG OR BUST!!!! I feel that he'd be very unique, personality and gameplay-wise. And with his inclusion in Tropical Freeze him and Dixie are possible. K Rool would be fun too, but he hasn't been relevant since Donkey Kong Barrel Blast, but we have Kremlings in the Smash Run mode as enemies, so anything is possible.
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kardonis Platinum Sparx Gems: 6366
#2210 Posted: 21:45:03 15/07/2014
I don't know about Cranky Kong (I literally do not) but I feel Dixie would be a good costume swap for Diddy.
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MagicFizz Emerald Sparx Gems: 3607
#2211 Posted: 21:47:42 15/07/2014
Quote: Windumup
Quote: sonicbrawler182
Mega Man is not human, he's a robot.

Palutena is not a human, she's a goddess.

And Luma is not a human either...and Rosalina is an implied goddess who transcended her human state.


Megaman had been a human before (more specifically an EM wave form)
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LunarDistortion Ripto Gems: 3606
#2212 Posted: 22:08:58 15/07/2014
Once again, there are no set amount of "slots", what I think you guys mean is the time that it takes to make a character. It would take the same time to make a Lucina model for Marth as it would to make her a character, so it's either you waste time on a clone/alternate costume or use that time making new fighters or bringing veterans back. There is where I see your point, and I respect your opinions on the matter. I just see time and time again people saying that characters are waste of slots when there are no such things.
IsisStormDragon Platinum Sparx Gems: 7127
#2213 Posted: 23:58:02 15/07/2014
Quote: Windumup
Quote: sonicbrawler182
Mega Man is not human, he's a robot.

Palutena is not a human, she's a goddess.

And Luma is not a human either...and Rosalina is an implied goddess who transcended her human state.


Megaman had been a human before (more specifically an EM wave form)
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fellow StarForce fan?! smilie
Seiki Platinum Sparx Gems: 6150
#2214 Posted: 00:00:29 16/07/2014
Quote: LunarDistortion
Once again, there are no set amount of "slots", what I think you guys mean is the time that it takes to make a character. It would take the same time to make a Lucina model for Marth as it would to make her a character, so it's either you waste time on a clone/alternate costume or use that time making new fighters or bringing veterans back. There is where I see your point, and I respect your opinions on the matter. I just see time and time again people saying that characters are waste of slots when there are no such things.


I agree with Kardonis and Sees. Lucina seems like an unnecessary gender-swapped Marth clone.

No, I don't mean waste of time in making. Having her as an alt costume would've been fine. Yes, there is a thing as slots, sure, the number may not be set, but it is still space being taken up on the character selection screen. I would've rather they either removed the space she takes up on the Character Selection entirely than have a clone like her or simply used said space on the screen for a much more unique character.
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kardonis Platinum Sparx Gems: 6366
#2215 Posted: 00:16:45 16/07/2014
I'm crossing my fingers that Fox/Falco/Wolf are just costume alternates this time. But with the current developments I doubt it.
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somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 8836
#2216 Posted: 00:20:21 16/07/2014
Falco and Wolf are not that much of a clone. Wolf is so much different from Fox and the only thing Falco has in common with fox is his side special.
LunarDistortion Ripto Gems: 3606
#2217 Posted: 01:24:42 16/07/2014
Quote: Seiki
Quote: LunarDistortion
Once again, there are no set amount of "slots", what I think you guys mean is the time that it takes to make a character. It would take the same time to make a Lucina model for Marth as it would to make her a character, so it's either you waste time on a clone/alternate costume or use that time making new fighters or bringing veterans back. There is where I see your point, and I respect your opinions on the matter. I just see time and time again people saying that characters are waste of slots when there are no such things.


I agree with Kardonis and Sees. Lucina seems like an unnecessary gender-swapped Marth clone.

No, I don't mean waste of time in making. Having her as an alt costume would've been fine. Yes, there is a thing as slots, sure, the number may not be set, but it is still space being taken up on the character selection screen. I would've rather they either removed the space she takes up on the Character Selection entirely than have a clone like her or simply used said space on the screen for a much more unique character.



I see your point, but I was more talking about the people who think that if one character "wastes a slot" than another character will be cut. Which won't happen unless time constraints don't allow it.
Rand O M Gold Sparx Gems: 2223
#2218 Posted: 01:38:54 16/07/2014
Complaining about Lucina isn't going to do anything. People want a new character, well, she's a new playable character. Video game companies can't succumb to what it's fans always want, besides a few clone characters won't kill anyone.
Dyno-Mite Ripto Gems: 92
#2219 Posted: 01:58:53 16/07/2014
Lucina was the second-most wanted FE newcomer, then Robin. Better than just Chrom? Yes. More characters are better even if they aren't too different.
somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 8836
#2220 Posted: 02:11:46 16/07/2014
Characters are planned though. So they were actually put in the game before FEA.
Dyno-Mite Ripto Gems: 92
#2221 Posted: 02:13:05 16/07/2014
Quote: somePerson
Characters are planned though. So they were actually put in the game before FEA.


Truth, but wasn't Lucina in to balance out the Fire Emblem's rep's sausagefest?
EyeBrawler2014 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3429
#2222 Posted: 03:23:19 16/07/2014
This whole "waste of character slot" thing is unnecessary, with amiibo and DLC, any character can be put into SSBWiiU/3DS
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Qcumber Yellow Sparx Gems: 1054
#2223 Posted: 10:29:06 16/07/2014
http://mariopartylegacy.com/20...d-on-august-12/

The complete roster will be revealed on August 12.
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kardonis Platinum Sparx Gems: 6366
#2224 Posted: 12:41:49 16/07/2014
Quote: EyeBrawler2014
This whole "waste of character slot" thing is unnecessary, with amiibo and DLC, any character can be put into SSBWiiU/3DS



I don't think you understand what amiibo does...
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CountMoneyBone Platinum Sparx Gems: 5073
#2225 Posted: 14:08:24 16/07/2014
Quote: Qcumber
http://mariopartylegacy.com/20...d-on-august-12/

The complete roster will be revealed on August 12.


looking forward to it exciting times ahead smilie
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#2226 Posted: 14:21:54 16/07/2014
Quote: Qcumber
http://mariopartylegacy.com/20...d-on-august-12/

The complete roster will be revealed on August 12.



CoroCoro claimed the exact same thing with Brawl, and it turned out it only featured characters that were already announced at that point.

It's just a publicity stunt that nets them more sales.
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EyeBrawler2014 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3429
#2227 Posted: 15:47:55 16/07/2014
I don't know everything about Amiibo, but if they really wanted to, they could make an Amiibo of any character and put in the game, and as for DLC, they could do like they did for other games, having the DLC be free

If they reveal the whole roster on the 12th, I'd be happy, as long as they show off someone new
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awesomerockets Emerald Sparx Gems: 4149
#2228 Posted: 16:07:46 16/07/2014
I believe they said that you cannot play as your Amiibo
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EyeBrawler2014 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3429
#2229 Posted: 16:11:28 16/07/2014
I'm not sure, I haven't been paying too much attention to it, but they can if they want, I'm sure of it
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somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 8836
#2230 Posted: 16:23:49 16/07/2014
Amiibos are fighting slaves.
MagicFizz Emerald Sparx Gems: 3607
#2231 Posted: 19:27:44 16/07/2014
Quote: IsisStormDragon
Quote: Windumup
Quote: sonicbrawler182
Mega Man is not human, he's a robot.

Palutena is not a human, she's a goddess.

And Luma is not a human either...and Rosalina is an implied goddess who transcended her human state.


Megaman had been a human before (more specifically an EM wave form)
[User Posted Image]


fellow StarForce fan?! smilie


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Grimslinger91 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1330
#2232 Posted: 20:55:59 16/07/2014
Quote: kardonis
I'm crossing my fingers that Fox/Falco/Wolf are just costume alternates this time. But with the current developments I doubt it.



Lucina is in the game and you'll have to deal with it. Also,I don't mind clones. I think of them as new characters with unique movesets.The melee clones are still being requested by fans and some people don't mind clones. I'm tired of the Ridley is a Charizard clone thing and the Mewtwo and Lucario one.
TacoMakerSkys Platinum Sparx Gems: 5652
#2233 Posted: 21:10:34 16/07/2014
Quote: kardonis
Why do you pick fights with everyone? It's clear that they could have EASILY made her just a costume swap like what Mario and Little Mac and Wii Fit Trainers are getting, but they didn't. It means that they're just throwing in people to take spots, while there are ENDLESS possibilities of new, unique characters. It's a waste of space. It really is.



Dude, just deal with it.
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TacoMakerSkys Platinum Sparx Gems: 5652
#2234 Posted: 21:11:17 16/07/2014
Quote: somePerson
Amiibos are fighting slaves.



^ They pretty much work just how Assist Trophies do.
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kardonis Platinum Sparx Gems: 6366
#2235 Posted: 21:16:06 16/07/2014
Quote: TacoMakerSkys
Quote: kardonis
Why do you pick fights with everyone? It's clear that they could have EASILY made her just a costume swap like what Mario and Little Mac and Wii Fit Trainers are getting, but they didn't. It means that they're just throwing in people to take spots, while there are ENDLESS possibilities of new, unique characters. It's a waste of space. It really is.



Dude, just deal with it.



Because you DEFINITELY needed to bring it back up.
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TacoMakerSkys Platinum Sparx Gems: 5652
#2236 Posted: 21:22:49 16/07/2014
Quote: kardonis
Quote: TacoMakerSkys
Quote: kardonis
Why do you pick fights with everyone? It's clear that they could have EASILY made her just a costume swap like what Mario and Little Mac and Wii Fit Trainers are getting, but they didn't. It means that they're just throwing in people to take spots, while there are ENDLESS possibilities of new, unique characters. It's a waste of space. It really is.



Dude, just deal with it.



Because you DEFINITELY needed to bring it back up.



Seriously, you rage whenever something in a game doesn't fit your standards. Just deal with it.
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awesomerockets Emerald Sparx Gems: 4149
#2237 Posted: 21:24:35 16/07/2014
Quote: TacoMakerSkys
Quote: kardonis
Quote: TacoMakerSkys



Dude, just deal with it.



Because you DEFINITELY needed to bring it back up.



Seriously, you rage whenever something in a game doesn't fit your standards. Just deal with it.



Dude, I think he'd dropped it. You didn't really need to bring it back up.
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#2238 Posted: 22:09:27 16/07/2014
Anyways,Amiibo look cool. Can't wait to level up Mewtwo if he is in. Also,the figures look detailed.
Underian Emerald Sparx Gems: 3095
#2239 Posted: 04:52:33 17/07/2014
i just sit here

waiting for one who i know will not come but i still hope

tails

rise my mechanic
EyeBrawler2014 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3429
#2240 Posted: 16:40:36 17/07/2014
If they add Tails, that would be amazing!
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#2241 Posted: 22:35:53 17/07/2014
Still hoping for... Zoroark. ;-;
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#2242 Posted: 23:12:05 17/07/2014
Quote: SilverWolf1129
Still hoping for... Zoroark. ;-;



Yikes, I'm afraid Greninja extinguished the last hope for that.
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awesomerockets Emerald Sparx Gems: 4149
#2243 Posted: 23:13:12 17/07/2014
Quote: Punk Bomb
Quote: SilverWolf1129
Still hoping for... Zoroark. ;-;



Yikes, I'm afraid Greninja extinguished the last hope for that.



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Grimslinger91 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1330
#2244 Posted: 01:35:41 18/07/2014
Quote: awesomerockets
Quote: Punk Bomb
Quote: SilverWolf1129
Still hoping for... Zoroark. ;-;



Yikes, I'm afraid Greninja extinguished the last hope for that.



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somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 8836
#2245 Posted: 01:38:47 18/07/2014
Zoruark only chance of being a playable character was better when X and Y didn't exist.
awesomerockets Emerald Sparx Gems: 4149
#2246 Posted: 01:39:10 18/07/2014
Quote: Grimslinger91
Quote: awesomerockets
Quote: Punk Bomb



Yikes, I'm afraid Greninja extinguished the last hope for that.



smilie

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Zoruark is a pokeball assist.



I would have preferred him as a playable character
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#2247 Posted: 02:05:59 18/07/2014
Btw guys just a little update about customization

Before a battle starts you can customize a character a little bit (option removed if your not facing a friend in "with friends" mode for some of them)
Each character can equip up to 3 items which add and decrease certain stat(s)

Like some ultra low weight shoes that make your character move faster but reduces power.
Or high-power gloves that beef up a character's punches at a cost


Also you can switch each special with another out of 3 other special attacks making 12 specials per character. (4 side B, 4 down B, and 4 up smilie

And if your a mii fighter you can change your mii at this time (Guessing this is the one that you can always do regardless of option)


Speaking of mii fighter we have some new info on them

Mii brawlers are close up fighters (Obviously)
Mii swordfighters use heavyhitting melee weapons and are slower then Mii brawlers (something we knew again besides the speed difference)
And mii gunners will have a wide variety of long range projectiles (besides just the side smilie


News source= Gameinformer
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#2248 Posted: 16:27:05 18/07/2014
Quote: Windumup
Btw guys just a little update about customization

Before a battle starts you can customize a character a little bit (option removed if your not facing a friend in "with friends" mode for some of them)
Each character can equip up to 3 items which add and decrease certain stat(s)

Like some ultra low weight shoes that make your character move faster but reduces power.
Or high-power gloves that beef up a character's punches at a cost


Also you can switch each special with another out of 3 other special attacks making 12 specials per character. (4 side B, 4 down B, and 4 up smilie

And if your a mii fighter you can change your mii at this time (Guessing this is the one that you can always do regardless of option)


Speaking of mii fighter we have some new info on them

Mii brawlers are close up fighters (Obviously)
Mii swordfighters use heavyhitting melee weapons and are slower then Mii brawlers (something we knew again besides the speed difference)
And mii gunners will have a wide variety of long range projectiles (besides just the side smilie


News source= Gameinformer



Actually, that's all just E3 news.
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SilverWolf1129 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1891
#2249 Posted: 17:31:51 18/07/2014
Quote: sonicbrawler182
Quote: Windumup
Btw guys just a little update about customization

Before a battle starts you can customize a character a little bit (option removed if your not facing a friend in "with friends" mode for some of them)
Each character can equip up to 3 items which add and decrease certain stat(s)

Like some ultra low weight shoes that make your character move faster but reduces power.
Or high-power gloves that beef up a character's punches at a cost


Also you can switch each special with another out of 3 other special attacks making 12 specials per character. (4 side B, 4 down B, and 4 up smilie

And if your a mii fighter you can change your mii at this time (Guessing this is the one that you can always do regardless of option)


Speaking of mii fighter we have some new info on them

Mii brawlers are close up fighters (Obviously)
Mii swordfighters use heavyhitting melee weapons and are slower then Mii brawlers (something we knew again besides the speed difference)
And mii gunners will have a wide variety of long range projectiles (besides just the side smilie


News source= Gameinformer



Actually, that's all just E3 news.



It also didn't list that you're characters size and height effect his speed. A Short and Skinny character is like sonic. A Tall and Fat character would be more like Bowser. Don't know if it effects damage at all.
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