darkSpyro

mosquitoes cause around 600,000 deaths each year; and around the world and 3.5 billion people are at risk from them .scientist found a way to genetically change the male mosquitoes so they can only produce male sperm. so over generations the female populations will disappear and to will the entire species....

what do you guys think, should we do this, and if we do what will happen to the food chain?

do it
im p sure they also said their place in the whole ecosystem fhgjh would easily be filled with other gjtnhky

The food chain would be more f'd up than the population of animals in that ecosystem is when compared to all humans on the earth. So no. Just leave the ecosystems be we already f'd some of them up already.

Leave mosquitoes ALLOOOOOOONE! *crais*

Bad idea, we need SOMETHING to keep the people population in check. People complain about the overpopulation of animals, but we ourselves are the biggest threats.

what do mosquitoes do besides death that could be useful ?

Quote: willspyro

what do mosquitoes do besides death that could be useful ?

They're food for other animals

^ oh,


yeah I don't know what to say now

I actually have a lot of fun zapping mosquitoes with my tennis racket

When thinking about this, it inevitably brought me back to the debate of overpopulation and how to deal with it. I was going to post in here about how we should leave the mosquitoes alone and simply spend our time and research into developing vaccines for diseases spread by them. But all that would do is further build immunity to diseases for humans, cause further overpopulation, and further stop the natural cycle of evolution in its tracks. That is a worse problem than mosquitoes that can result in the suffering and death of billions of organisms (human and otherwise); not just a few hundred thousand people.

As said above, mosquitoes are important in the ecosystem, and eradicating them could have dire consequences. I agree with Fanatic's idea of reducing the population and observing the effects through there.

But even still I can't help but think about overpopulation. To be honest, the overpopulation issue and evolution has lead me to some dark thoughts. Like HotDog said, something needs to be able to keep the population in check. But then we reach a whole new set of moral and ethical conflicts.

This is something we should discuss sometime.

Quote: Cynderfan507

First off, mosquitoes are food to other animals. If mosquitoes go extinct, those animals will all go extinct as well. Don't you see the problems this could create? Humans have already ****ed everything else up, don't **** up the food chain as well!

Also (goodness I'm going to sound horrible), humans could very well overpopulate the world. Mosquitoes (and other insects and animals that carry diseases) sort of control the population a little; they're part of the reason the Earth isn't overcrowded.

Clearly I believe this is a horrible idea.

My thoughts exactly.

buu should have used the mosquito extinction attack instead of the human extinction attack

this whole talk about mosquitoes reminds me of a good man i once knew who was a friend of mine that told me about a prophecy where humans go extinct so the mosquitoes grow fuzzier and to human size and develop intelligent life over time but then they go to war with the moths who went through the same transformation and they are led by the genetically evolved amoeba who can turn their arms into giant swords and are essentially the flood from halo riding on giant moths but then eventually a mosquito and moth will find the works of my friend including a book that warned the world of this coming evolution in the world and has a hologram that speaks directly to the mosquito and moth saying I knew it and i warned everyone so then the mosquitoes and moths will end the war and put all funding on investigating humans and most specifically my friend who knew this was going to happen and that's what will happen in the future when it comes to mosquitoes as told by my good friend lol bye

i just had another idea. if they can do this to mosquitoes, should we use this technology on invasive species?

Quote: aran

i just had another idea. if they can do this to mosquitoes, should we use this technology on invasive species?

I'm not sure if they have that for all species.

But if they do I'm all for doing it with roaches. Like if someones house is infested they could catch one and let it loose and then after a while roaches will stop showing up in the house

mosquitoes must die

Oh!

We could also invest the time and money into creating a legitimate spray or cream that repels insects, including mosquitoes.

Hey! Humans kill animals every year and you don't hear us complain! How did humans make it to the top of the food chain you necompoops.

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Hey! Humans kill animals every year and you don't hear us complain! How did humans make it to the top of the food chain you necompoops.

Yes, but if we were to kill one entire species the whole ecosystem that is involved with that will collapse. And us humans will be over populated, well we already are over populated since quite a few species of big cats (specifically Tigers and Sand cats as far as I know) are going extinct from loss of environment, food, and poaching. This is honestly why I think we should have another threat of our human population. Whether it be a disease, war, or a newly evolved predator, so we are at more of a balance and kept under control.

The Earth has no population issue. It's a distribution issue.

NO
WE SHOULDN'T KILL MOSQUITOES.
BECAUSE OF SCENES LIKE THIS

Quote: weebbby

The Earth has no population issue. It's a distribution issue.

It does too have a population issue. There's 7 (maybe more) billion humans on earth today. While far fewer die. We keep expanding taking more and more land, draining up more and more water, killing more and more animals.

keep mosquitoes
let people die

Quote: Thunderdragon14

keep mosquitoes
let people die

Let penguins and ostriches rule!

JK but mosquitoes should live.

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Quote: weebbby

The Earth has no population issue. It's a distribution issue.

It does too have a population issue. There's 7 (maybe more) billion humans on earth today. While far fewer die. We keep expanding taking more and more land, draining up more and more water, killing more and more animals.

The whole worldwide population could fit in less that a continent. But they pack so many in certain countries, which leads humans to believe there is an issue.

Quote: weebbby

Quote: Trix Master 100

Quote: weebbby

The Earth has no population issue. It's a distribution issue.

It does too have a population issue. There's 7 (maybe more) billion humans on earth today. While far fewer die. We keep expanding taking more and more land, draining up more and more water, killing more and more animals.

The whole worldwide population could fit in less that a continent. But they pack so many in certain countries, which leads humans to believe there is an issue.

Big time bull****. If that were true, than there would be no ****ing endangered animals.

Quote: somePerson

Hey! Humans kill animals every year and you don't hear us complain! How did humans make it to the top of the food chain you necompoops.

Mass extermination of wildlife and habitats have messed with the ecosystem already.

Quote: Cynderfan507

Bull****, if that was true, then wouldn't people be trying to do something about all the endangered species?

Then, I guess nobody really cares if the entire world gets screwed up.

Quote: Trix Master 100

Big time bull****. If that were true, than there would be no ****ing endangered animals.

You're right guys. That statement IS bull****.

In reality, the entire human population of the Earth could fit not in a single continent, but in the city of Los Angeles if standing next to each other shoulder to shoulder.

Overpopulation is an issue yes, but I suppose Weebbbly is right in that it's a distribution problem that leads to the overpopulation problem we have today (some places get food and wealth, others don't).

Everybody's right!

In my eyes, it would be a great idea.

That's gotta be the worst idea I've ever heard of.

Ex. In Africa, there's a species of frog that feeds almost entirely on Mosquitos (can't remember it's actual name.) In extension, killing all the Mosquitos would force these frogs into scarcity or extinction. In turn, this would reduce populations of various birds, fish, and snakes including multiple species we use the chemicals in the venom of to combat various diseases. These are vaccines that scientists believe we have no other way to find. These diseases would have decreased survivability rates, killing hundreds or even thousands of people.

I was gonna ask someone to name a species that only eats mosquitoes, but assassinelf beat me to it.
Um...yeah. ._. No clue where to stand here now...

i'm honestly baffled by the fact scientists are actually considering wiping them out
like
what kind of scientists are they????

Quote: Thunderdragon14

i'm honestly baffled by the fact scientists are actually considering wiping them out
like
what kind of scientists are they????

Scientists that wanna kill mosquitoes.

There is no rational aspect to destroy biological entities from existence, even though they can cause thousands of deaths in a year. Let us remember that it is eventually a proportion of a human population of over 7 billion that has nothing significant evolutionary value to actually take such drastic measures.

In nature and everywhere in universe there is a simple rule that is constant certainty from the dawn to dusk of our universe; everything affects everything. Mosquitoes and many other small insects have important part to fulfil on the food chain (or food circle which is more rational way to explain the hierarchy of animals).

Of course the only situation where we must consider extinction projects is the one when mankind as a whole is threatened by one whole different animal or groups on animals. But right now when it is enough for mankind to survive in environments we’ve built it is not relevant at current times. But who knows how the times will change. This is eventually subject that can be discussed and debated in the Idle chatter’s “What do you think our future will be like?” topic. I personally believe that eventually mankind will have to give in to a new breed of super diseases at some point.

Quote: Thunderdragon14

i'm honestly baffled by the fact scientists are actually considering wiping them out
like
what kind of scientists are they????

The kind who really enjoy the forest-like areas.

If Mosquitos became speech-capable and officially declared war on us, I could see rational reasoning to this project but since Mosquitos merely do what they were designed to do, we have no reason to attack them.

Quote: assassinelf

If Mosquitos became speech-capable and officially declared war on us, I could see rational reasoning to this project but since Mosquitos merely do what they were designed to do, we have no reason to attack them.

If vampires existed then we would try to kill them.
Note that Mosquitoes are pretty much the insect version of vampires

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Quote: assassinelf

If Mosquitos became speech-capable and officially declared war on us, I could see rational reasoning to this project but since Mosquitos merely do what they were designed to do, we have no reason to attack them.

If vampires existed then we would try to kill them.
Note that Mosquitoes are pretty much the insect version of vampires

Mosquitoes are on practical level annoying enough that even in the most fantasy scenarios Vampires would hate them as much as we ordinary people.

@windup That's not a good comparison. Vampires (according to most legends) kill people in many more ways than the bite. They both need blood for sustenance, but Mosquitos do it because without food they'd die, and vampires because of an extreme sense of selve preservation.

Quote: assassinelf

@windup That's not a good comparison. Vampires (according to most legends) kill people in many more ways than the bite. They both need blood for sustenance, but Mosquitos do it because without food they'd die, and vampires because of an extreme sense of selve preservation.

Um pardon me if I am wrong but only female mosquito's bite as the blood is needed for food/babies.

Although I may be thinking about fleas

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Quote: assassinelf

@windup That's not a good comparison. Vampires (according to most legends) kill people in many more ways than the bite. They both need blood for sustenance, but Mosquitos do it because without food they'd die, and vampires because of an extreme sense of selve preservation.

Um pardon me if I am wrong but only female mosquito's bite as the blood is needed for food/babies.

Although I may be thinking about fleas

Major differences between a Vampire and a Mosquito.

Weaknesses. Vampires get sick during the day, a Mosquito can come out anytime. Vampires intend to kill. Mosquitos don't intend to kill. Hell Mosquitos don't live as long as a Vampire. Vampires are rather more civil, as they can be quite homicidal in many ways, including feral ways. Mosquitos just bite...Well and carry disease, But that it.

Eliminate a population in a controlled environment. Observe the effects. Repeat until enough data is gathered for a decision to be made.


Simple as that.

let's all become members of that one group that are trying to wipe out humanity or something.