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The death penalty [CLOSED]
AvatariDragon Platinum Sparx Gems: 6231
#1 Posted: 15:58:51 18/05/2014 | Topic Creator
After a lethal injection that went wrong last month, some people are beginning to question that method and suggesting to bring back the older ways, like the electric chair and hanging and even the firing squad. And there are some who think the death penalty shouldn't even be a punishment at all, but that isn't really anything new.
Do you agree or disagree with it?

*No arguments, please. We're all entitled to our own opinions.
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#2 Posted: 16:03:26 18/05/2014
Well-*police siren* OH CRAP I NEED TO GO!
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#3 Posted: 16:54:50 18/05/2014
Lethal injection is almost too kind for someone who commits the worst crimes possible.
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#4 Posted: 17:32:47 18/05/2014
I strongly support death penalty.

Let's see....

1. If you end someone else's life you deserve to have your own ended. It's hardly worth anything anymore. Basically it serves proper justice.
2. It helps clean out our prisons. Let's use our prisons on criminals that aren't murderers.
3. The family of the murderers victim will feel more assured now that the murderer is gone. They will feel like justice was served.
4. It shows that we don't take crime lightly.
5. Once a murderer is gone, he/she cannot murder again.
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#5 Posted: 17:46:18 18/05/2014
Fun Fact: The people related to the person that got murdered can watch the murder having the death penalty.
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#6 Posted: 18:01:00 18/05/2014
Death penalty should only be given to someone who commits a very very serious crime (i.e. blowing up a hospital). Other than that, I am strongly against death penalties.
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#7 Posted: 18:19:26 18/05/2014
I'm personally fine with death penalties.

Mr. Morisses already cleared up why some people support the death penalty, so yeah.
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#8 Posted: 18:38:46 18/05/2014
Quote: Cynderfan507
I think it should. Now, I'm not saying that everyone who has ever committed a crime should die (I mean really, would you hang someone for jaywalking?), I just think that in some cases, the death penalty is reasonable.



Quote: Mrmorrises
I strongly support death penalty.

Let's see....

1. If you end someone else's life you deserve to have your own ended. It's hardly worth anything anymore. Basically it serves proper justice.
2. It helps clean out our prisons. Let's use our prisons on criminals that aren't murderers.
3. The family of the murderers victim will feel more assured now that the murderer is gone. They will feel like justice was served.
4. It shows that we don't take crime lightly.
5. Once a murderer is gone, he/she cannot murder again.


These. They just kind of explained the things I think when this topic appears.
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#9 Posted: 18:42:39 18/05/2014
Not very fond of Death Penalty. I don't wish to see it back.
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#10 Posted: 18:49:03 18/05/2014
Pretty much if it's pre-meditated murder, and everything worse. If the were drunk driving and killed someone, I do t think they should be killed.
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#11 Posted: 19:05:26 18/05/2014
Let's kill someone because killing is wrong!
That's pretty much what death penalty is.
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#12 Posted: 19:07:03 18/05/2014
Quote: CommanderGame
Let's kill someone because killing is wrong!
That's pretty much what death penalty is.



Nope. More like: They have taken someone's life and we must serve them proper justice.
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#13 Posted: 19:15:07 18/05/2014
To me, it depends, but Mrrorisez(sorrymisspell) is right wen it comes to these things.
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#14 Posted: 19:27:52 18/05/2014
It's wrong in all cases. I'm quite firm on this.
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#15 Posted: 20:04:43 18/05/2014
It's an option, my support is irrelevant. There are valid reasons for and against it, and they should be examined depending on the situation at hand.
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#16 Posted: 21:27:06 18/05/2014
I have nothing against the death penalty. In fact, I support it in some cases. If someone committed a crime so horrible, death penalty makes sense. Why keep them in prison for life and give them a chance to break out and wreak more havoc on the innocent? Also life in prison sucks, and the death penalty might even be more kind then life there.
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#17 Posted: 21:39:11 18/05/2014
I'm strongly against it.
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#18 Posted: 21:42:53 18/05/2014
i suppose its alright if the crime is bad enough, but i think the guy should be given the choice between it and life in prison or something, idk?????

australia hasnt had proper capital punishment since 1967 and its been banned completely in 2010
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#19 Posted: 22:40:20 18/05/2014
I think they should be used to find cures for stuff instead of the animals

If they die in the process then oh well that's the penalty
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#20 Posted: 23:06:21 18/05/2014
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: Ninpire
I think they should be used to find cures for stuff instead of animals.


Even though I don't believe that they should test stuff on animals, testing it on humans isn't any better, even if they did something horrible.

Just sayin'.


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Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7158
#21 Posted: 23:22:14 18/05/2014
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: Ninpire
I think they should be used to find cures for stuff instead of animals.


Even though I don't believe that they should test stuff on animals, testing it on humans isn't any better, even if they did something horrible.

Just sayin'.



Agreed. That's merely de-humanizing humans, and goes beyond cruel and unusual.
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#22 Posted: 23:24:26 18/05/2014
Bring back the guillotine! #chopchop
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#23 Posted: 00:10:28 19/05/2014
In certain circumstances (mass murder, pre-meditated murder) yes I'm for the death penalty.

On other convictions, maybe I did have a change of heart, maybe life in prison would be a better punishment, at least they can think and live with what they did until the day they die.
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#24 Posted: 00:36:02 19/05/2014
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: Ninpire
I think they should be used to find cures for stuff instead of animals.


Even though I don't believe that they should test stuff on animals, testing it on humans isn't any better, even if they did something horrible.

Just sayin'.


Agreed. That's merely de-humanizing humans, and goes beyond cruel and unusual.


Whaaaat

But this way people would be a lot more freaked out to try anything terrible and if they do they can still kind of contribute to helping others...in a way...
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#25 Posted: 01:31:01 19/05/2014
Well, let's look at the history of the death penalty and some of those older methods.

Electric chair, hanging, and firing squad may seem deadlier and more aggressive, but they failed sometimes as well. And when they failed, one would experience an extreme amount of pain and physical damage....Which is why they were stopped in the first place.

IMO, lethal injection should stay.
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#26 Posted: 01:33:54 19/05/2014
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: Ninpire
But this way people would be a lot more freaked out to try anything terrible.


I don't think telling someone that they're going to be experimented on if they do something horrible is going to change the minds of everyone out there.

Honestly, I'm starting to question a lot of the things you post lately. First the things about jokes, and now this... Hmm...


Well obviously it's not gonna change every criminal's mind out there. But personally I think it's more of a threat than "if you do this you die, after a couple of years in jail" or "if you do this you stay here for the rest of your life." You know? I certainly wouldn't want to go through the tests that they put those animals through.
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#27 Posted: 01:47:52 19/05/2014
Okay.
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#28 Posted: 09:20:50 19/05/2014
Lethal injection is way too soft. Pedos, rapists, terrorists and people like that deserve electric chair or hanging.

Has anyone heard of George Stinney?
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#29 Posted: 09:29:14 19/05/2014
First they put you to sleep with anesthesia.
Then you will be poisoned
death

-the way it should be.


they TRY to put you to sleep with anesthesia
it fails
poison is added
painfull death

-The way it goes recently
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#30 Posted: 10:09:02 19/05/2014
Ech, I think that rotting in jail for the rest of your life is much worse than death, so I guess I'm against it.
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#31 Posted: 21:31:22 19/05/2014
Quote: arceustheprime
Ech, I think that rotting in jail for the rest of your life is much worse than death, so I guess I'm against it.
idkitscomplicated



That's the thing, though. A lot of prisons in First World countries aren't really places where one "rots."
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#32 Posted: 23:01:32 19/05/2014
I don't agree with it. They may have done something terrible, but that doesn't mean they also have to die. *watches investigation discovery channel* WE MUST DESTROY THEM ALL!!!!!!
AvatariDragon Platinum Sparx Gems: 6231
#33 Posted: 12:35:56 20/05/2014 | Topic Creator
I don't even really know exactly how I feel about it. On the one hand, I feel like the punishment should fit the crime. On the other hand, I don't think it's really our place to determine when someone should die... Mixed feelings for me.
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#34 Posted: 15:06:38 20/05/2014
i'm very mixed with it. for me i'm a tooth for a tooth type of person. but there are massive downsides to The death penalty, and because of that im no longer for the death penalty

1)it cost $3 million per person for the death penalty. it is a dent in our U.S budget that we could spend elsewhere, like schools, hospitals, cops ect.... also it would be cheaper for life in prison because it cost 1.5 million.

2. we are not 100% sure if the people we convict are truly killers. it really pisses me of when we kill someone only to find out years later they where innocent.

3) it dose not deter crime at all. for example in 1700s France, stealing was punishable by death. when they killed the people, they used guillotines. and the ironic thing is people where pick pocketing other people while watching the guillotines killing pick picketers :/

the same things happen today, humans still think that they wont get caught for their crime

4) U.K ( i think that's the country) has stopped selling the poison that we used for the death penalty because they think we are over and miss using it. because of this, we are using a new types of poison that has not been passed by the FDA. because of this lethal injection backfiring are becoming more and more often.
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#35 Posted: 17:58:39 20/05/2014
Quote: AvatariDragon
I don't even really know exactly how I feel about it. On the one hand, I feel like the punishment should fit the crime. On the other hand, I don't think it's really our place to determine when someone should die... Mixed feelings for me.


^ This
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#36 Posted: 06:29:42 21/05/2014
Rotting hurts more then death.
Death is a way to escape rotting.
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#37 Posted: 18:55:42 21/05/2014
There was a case in the 70s that was just made into a movie where three eight year olds went missing and were found dead, bound, and naked. the police asked some of the parents if anyone had acted strange lately, and they said a 16 year old boy whom they knew had randomly asked for a picture of her son, and that teen happened to be a stereo typical goth, and was believed to be a leader of a satanist cult(but it wasn't true) and the police arested him and his friends the next day. One of the friends had mental issues and confesed to the crime, however, he kept changing details and what time of day it was, and was very clearly not telling the truth. then this kid that knew the murdered chidren said he was taken too but escaped, and said stuff like they made him drink his friends blood, they later found he was lying too. But the police wanted so badly to close the case that they wanted it to be the teens who did it and they went away for 20+ yars for it, just got out 3 or so years ago, but it wasnt them. They had no motive, and no real proof that it was them. They found the DNA of one of the boys fathers in the bounding (yet he was not arrested) that was tied to the kids. Originally they were going to give the teens the death sentence, and they were inocent all along. Movie is called Devils Knot.
I dont think it matters what you did, you should never get the death sentence. "You killed someone and to show you how bad that was we're going to kill you too". Wouldn't it be worse to be in prison for the rest of your life and have to live with what you did rather then giving them an escape? But honestly, no one deserves death.
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#38 Posted: 19:22:31 21/05/2014
For people who think that the lethal injection isn't right for murderers are just a bunch of goody two shoes that need to get a grip. If it's for a stupid crime like stealing for example, then no it's a bit too harsh to take their life. You get what I mean.
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#39 Posted: 20:40:20 21/05/2014
I lean towards supporting the death penalty. I can see a lot of good reasons for and against it, but I think for people like mass murderers or war criminals of sorts it is absolutely necessary. Still wondering what should be done about ordinary murderers though. Mrmorrises presents pretty good reasons for it, but then there are aran's reasons against it. The only reason against it which actually makes me rather indecisive is how we aren't able to know 100% whether the accused person is actually guilty. I'm not actually that much opposed to experimenting on them if we could totally know they're guilty.
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#40 Posted: 23:47:09 21/05/2014
I find death penalty ok too. If some murderer/other serious criminal really is that sick mentally he can't be cured, better just take him off. But the evidence ofc must be good.
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#41 Posted: 23:50:53 21/05/2014
Quote: MrW
I find death penalty ok too. If some murderer/other serious criminal really is that sick mentally he can't be cured, better just take him off. But the evidence ofc must be good.



InB4 h8

Define "cured". Some people are just like that naturally. Is it your right to take who they are away from them? I get that they're dangerous to others, but you don't have turn them into something they're not.
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