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Russia and Ukraine on the brink of war [CLOSED]
Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#1 Posted: 15:15:35 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
I didn't find a topic about this, so I decided to make one.

According to sources in Kiev, 2000 russian soldiers were transported to Ukraine yesterday (also tanks, by some vague reports). Two ukrainian airports have been occupied by the newly arrived forces. Many western nations have publicly expressed their worries about the situation.

You can find more info on the news all around the internet, there are also some videos on youtube. I wouldn't trust all sources completely though, as some reports may be exaggerated.

What do you guys think about the situation?

Edit: If you want to see more, scroll down. I've posted more news about the situation as they've come to my attention.
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#2 Posted: 15:16:43 01/03/2014
I think Russia might be preparing for something big.
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#3 Posted: 15:20:51 01/03/2014
I've heard about this. I think they're planning something.
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#4 Posted: 15:22:09 01/03/2014
ffs majority of northern hemisphere
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#5 Posted: 16:22:45 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
From what I know, so far Russia has publicly denied sending any troops to Ukraine. The combat uniforms of the transported soldiers are completely devoid of any national symbols, but they use russian military equipment and speak russian (also widely spoken in Ukraine).

But, as it turns out...

..Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia just received an authorization from the head of the Russian parliament to use the military forces of the Russian Federation on ukrainian soil, and has sent 6000 troops to their military base in Crimea.
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#6 Posted: 16:22:47 01/03/2014
Strange how we get involved in things that shouldn't matter but now that we should we don't.
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#7 Posted: 16:50:32 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Here are a few videos that you people might be interested in seeing.





assassinelf Yellow Sparx Gems: 1180
#8 Posted: 17:15:03 01/03/2014
Does Russia wanna start a war? Oh wait.
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#9 Posted: 17:16:05 01/03/2014
Third world war? Please.....
Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#10 Posted: 17:37:00 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: assassinelf
Does Russia wanna start a war? Oh wait.


An armed conflict isn't what they're looking for, but the situation might escalate.

I've seen a couple of guesses as to what their motives are, and it seems logical to me that Russia is simply trying to gain control of Crimea to be able to dictate the price of the gas that flows to Ukraine through that area. That could lead to an energy crisis in Ukraine which would probably force them to work by Russia's rules.
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#11 Posted: 18:28:47 01/03/2014
Quote: NINJAsk11
Third world war? Please.....



NO! It will be all nukes!
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Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#12 Posted: 19:56:23 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
21.41, ukrainia's acting president, Oleksandr Turtshynov has placed the Armed forces of Ukraine on high alert.

Ukrainia's prime minister claims that any military action from the behalf of Russia would lead to war, and all connections to Moscow would immediately be cut. He then demanded that the Russian troops be returned to their base at Sevastopol.

Meanwhile the UN hopes for immediate stabilisation of the situation. I've read that UN's president, Ban Ki-Moon either will call or has personally called Vladimir Putin.

Edit: United Nations Security Council just started their second meeting today. The meeting was called by Great Britain.
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#13 Posted: 20:35:59 01/03/2014
This isn't good. I don't like it.
Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#14 Posted: 21:02:10 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
I'm listening to a couple of radio frequencies. I'll update you guys if I hear/read more.
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#15 Posted: 21:07:56 01/03/2014
This is not good :X
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#16 Posted: 21:13:54 01/03/2014
I'm hoping against all hope that it doesn't go nuclear.
Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#17 Posted: 21:21:13 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: Metallo
I'm hoping against all hope that it doesn't go nuclear.


Some guy claimed that he heard 3x SKYKING on 8992.00 USB earlier today, but it wasn't verified. Might've just been a troll looking for attention or something.
Anyway, now it's just a bunch of beeps and static.

I don't know if you're aware of what it means. PM me and I'll explain if you're interested.
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#18 Posted: 21:23:54 01/03/2014
Quote: NINJAsk11
Third world war? Please.....


choose your exit
Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#19 Posted: 21:47:02 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Apparently Ukraine has asked the United Nations Security Council to stop Russia's interference inside their territory.
Putin, on the other hand, probably feels that he has invested far too much on Viktor Janukovitsh to let Ukraine wrestle free of Russian influence now. The last thing they want to happen is for Ukraine to join NATO now.

I can't say for sure, but I hope that they're just trying to put some pressure on the ukrainian goverment and protect the russian civilians living in Ukraine.
Because, If they're really looking to occupy Crimea this gets pretty serious.
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#20 Posted: 21:59:52 01/03/2014
AFHEGHDGHVYGGGJFFVGIKTDYXJUB***UR
Russia and Ukraine.
If this goes nuclear...
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#21 Posted: 22:01:23 01/03/2014
Quote: NINJAsk11
Third world war? Please.....



Um..... No.
wreckingballbob Emerald Sparx Gems: 4565
#22 Posted: 22:04:11 01/03/2014
We're all screwed if nukes are used.
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Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#23 Posted: 22:07:21 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: assassinelf
AFHEGHDGHVYGGGJFFVGIKTDYXJUB***UR
Russia and Ukraine.
If this goes nuclear...


The only way this'll "go nuclear" is that the situation escalates into a larger conflict. Right now there's just a lot of tension in Ukraine and the UN is putting a lot of pressure on Vladimir Putin.

It's not even a war yet, and there's a big chance it'll never become one.

But, tbh there are nukes on alert right now. They're always ready to fire 24/7 even when there's no trouble around, and now Russia is sending thousands of soldiers inside Ukraine's borders, against the wishes of the ukrainian goverment and the UN.
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somePerson Diamond Sparx Gems: 9419
#24 Posted: 22:08:20 01/03/2014
I thought nukes weren't allied though. :\
Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#25 Posted: 22:10:30 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: somePerson
I thought nukes weren't allied though. smilie


You mean "allowed"?

Sadly that doesn't mean much if something big really happens. Which, again, I believe and hope will not.
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#26 Posted: 22:11:22 01/03/2014
Quote: Samius
Quote: somePerson
I thought nukes weren't allied though. :\


You mean "allowed"?

Sadly that doesn't mean much if something big really happens. Which, again, I believe and hope will not.


Oh.
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#27 Posted: 22:14:47 01/03/2014
Quote: Spyrobaro
Jesus.

Quote: NINJAsk11
Third world war? Please.....

wait are you ASKING FOR A THIRD WORLD WAR



She is insane.
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CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6430
#28 Posted: 22:20:41 01/03/2014
I'm kinda bugged how people are immediately screaming "OH GOSH WORLD WAR III IS UPON US WE'RE GOING NUCLEAR" when only one side of the conflict has nuclear weapons and wouldn't think of using it on a country that they're trying to be friends with.

I don't fully understand the situation but I'm not exactly going to scream war right away.

Quote: Spyrobaro
Jesus.

Quote: NINJAsk11
Third world war? Please.....

wait are you ASKING FOR A THIRD WORLD WAR


She's saying "oh please". As in, WWIII isn't going to happen over something like this.
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MagicFizz Emerald Sparx Gems: 3728
#29 Posted: 22:25:23 01/03/2014
Quote: CAV
I'm kinda bugged how people are immediately screaming "OH GOSH WORLD WAR III IS UPON US WE'RE GOING NUCLEAR" when only one side of the conflict has nuclear weapons and wouldn't think of using it on a country that they're trying to be friends with.

I don't fully understand the situation but I'm not exactly going to scream war right away.

Quote: Spyrobaro
Jesus.

Quote: NINJAsk11
Third world war? Please.....

wait are you ASKING FOR A THIRD WORLD WAR


She's saying "oh please". As in, WWIII isn't going to happen over something like this.



This whole post, quote and all.
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Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#30 Posted: 22:29:53 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
According to public news President Obama and President Putin had a phone call earlier today, where Obama expressed his worries for Russia's apparent plan to possibly attack Ukraine.
Edit: President Obama also told President Putin that he has broken international laws.

The Ukrainian goverment has asked NATO to look into any possible means to protect Ukraine's sovereingty. They're getting pretty worried.

On the frequencies, a lot of Russian chatter. Can't tell if military, but some EAM's have been flying around all night. Also I've heard some french transmissions scheduling plane take-offs.
Nothing really big like what some people claimed to hear earlier. I think those were just wild rumors.
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#31 Posted: 22:35:20 01/03/2014
Exactly how are you getting access to foreign frequencies?
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#32 Posted: 22:36:23 01/03/2014
K. I have placed my belif in WWIII's innexistence
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Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#33 Posted: 23:41:29 01/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: CAV
Exactly how are you getting access to foreign frequencies?


I sent you a PM, did you get it?
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#34 Posted: 00:23:10 02/03/2014
baka russia
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#35 Posted: 12:23:10 02/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Things are not looking any better in Ukraine today.

- Crimea is now effectively under Russian rule. Over 15000 russian soldiers have been deployed there.

- I've seen of reports of russian soldiers stealing weapons from Ukraine's military.

- The russian forces in Crimea have started a media war to do a smear-job on the ukrainian goverment and urge the people of Ukraine to start supporting Vladimir Putin.

- The Prime minister of Ukraine accuses Russia of starting a war. Ukraine's army is mobilizing, and all recervists (approx. 1 000 000) have been called to service.

- The ukrainian parliament has asked for international support to protect it's nuclear power plants.

- Russia publicly blames the European Union for causing the riots of the past months in Ukraine.

The good news is, not a single shot has yet been fired between the two armed forces.
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wreckingballbob Emerald Sparx Gems: 4565
#36 Posted: 12:51:07 02/03/2014
Maybe we shouldn't get involved.
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#37 Posted: 12:51:24 02/03/2014
*Sigh* Some things never change.

I sincerely hope that this does not escalate into a war.
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LegendaryFlames Emerald Sparx Gems: 3791
#38 Posted: 12:57:02 02/03/2014
Why do I have to live in England which is closer to Ukraine/Russia than some other places where you people come from? What if I explode?

Okay but seriously I really hope there is no war smilie
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Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#39 Posted: 13:10:46 02/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: LegendaryFlames
Why do I have to live in England which is closer to Ukraine/Russia than some other places where you people come from? What if I explode?

Okay but seriously I really hope there is no war smilie


Hey, I live 500km from Russia. Don't worry, you don't have it so bad. Your country is really powerful too, so no-one would start a fight with you just like that.

If this turns to war, I'll be called away for refreshive training and sent to guard the border.
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#40 Posted: 13:11:19 02/03/2014
Quote: LegendaryFlames
Why do I have to live in England which is closer to Ukraine/Russia than some other places where you people come from? What if I explode?

Okay but seriously I really hope there is no war smilie



If a nuke ever wanted to go to America they would have to destroy the UK first.

We would signal if a nuke is going to America and they would destroy it in the sky.
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Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#41 Posted: 13:16:41 02/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: wreckingballbob
If a nuke ever wanted to go to America they would have to destroy the UK first.

We would signal if a nuke is going to America and they would destroy it in the sky.

And what if the nuke crosses the Pacific?
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#42 Posted: 13:16:53 02/03/2014
Quote: wreckingballbob
Quote: LegendaryFlames
Why do I have to live in England which is closer to Ukraine/Russia than some other places where you people come from? What if I explode?

Okay but seriously I really hope there is no war smilie



If a nuke ever wanted to go to America they would have to destroy the UK first.

We would signal if a nuke is going to America and they would destroy it in the sky.



America plz act good c:
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#43 Posted: 13:18:38 02/03/2014
Quote: Samius
Quote: wreckingballbob
If a nuke ever wanted to go to America they would have to destroy the UK first.

We would signal if a nuke is going to America and they would destroy it in the sky.

And what if the nuke crosses the Pacific?



America would be screwed?
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#44 Posted: 13:20:39 02/03/2014
[User Posted Image]

Ukrainian army base at Perevalnoye in Crimea has been surrounded by Russian troops. Ukrainian troops have driven an APC to the gates and are refusing to surrender.
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Samius Hunter Gems: 9550
#45 Posted: 13:21:07 02/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: wreckingballbob
America would be screwed?


At this time and age I'd say it's imperative to remember that Earth is round.
wreckingballbob Emerald Sparx Gems: 4565
#46 Posted: 13:29:53 02/03/2014
Quote: Samius
Quote: wreckingballbob
America would be screwed?


At this time and age I'd say it's imperative to remember that Earth is round.



I know it is round my my teacher taught me that thing in class.
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#47 Posted: 13:38:34 02/03/2014
Oh look, It's Russia being Russia again. I'm not surprised, but I don't like it. Funny how this begins as Sochi 2014 ends... (I hope you can detect my sarcasm here.)
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#48 Posted: 19:36:59 02/03/2014
Quote: wreckingballbob
Quote: Samius
Quote: wreckingballbob
If a nuke ever wanted to go to America they would have to destroy the UK first.

We would signal if a nuke is going to America and they would destroy it in the sky.

And what if the nuke crosses the Pacific?



America would be screwed?


I'm pretty certain the US has defense methods for missiles and nukes.
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#49 Posted: 19:49:32 02/03/2014
Quote: CAV
Quote: wreckingballbob
Quote: Samius

And what if the nuke crosses the Pacific?



America would be screwed?


I'm pretty certain the US has defense methods for missiles and nukes.


They would probably just send one back.
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