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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#1 Posted: 17:23:52 09/01/2014 | Topic Creator
Soooo, I'm gonna build a Gaming PC, and would like some help if anyone here knows anything about them. I have a budget of roughly £600 (About $980 I think) but I'd be willing to go slightly over for some things. I'm not a complete N00B, I know my GPU's from my SSD's and so on...
Thanks :3
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arceustheprime Ripto Gems: 5362
#2 Posted: 06:48:08 17/01/2014
^you don't really need more than 8 gigs tho, really more than that is quite overkill
with a $980 budget you should be able to get a pc that can max out most games really, also i'd recommend spending ages shopping around for gr8 prices, amazon normally has some good prices so ye though i can't really say much unless you can go into more detail at what you're after
Fatman Gold Sparx Gems: 2794
#3 Posted: 17:09:46 18/01/2014
Im being told that this site is good

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

hope it helps smilie
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#4 Posted: 17:26:09 19/01/2014
Quote: arceustheprime
^you don't really need more than 8 gigs tho, really more than that is quite overkill
with a $980 budget you should be able to get a pc that can max out most games really, also i'd recommend spending ages shopping around for gr8 prices, amazon normally has some good prices so ye though i can't really say much unless you can go into more detail at what you're after


4GB is enough to run most games but your PC will still have trouble processing light workloads even with 4GB your PC will still lock up a lot, 8GB is necessary if you want a fast PC.
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#5 Posted: 23:18:35 24/01/2014 | Topic Creator
AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz Socket AM3+ Octo Core (4.7 is the BASE clock speed)
GeForce NVIDIA 4GB GTX 760
Zalman Z11 Plus midi case
Probably gonna get an MSI AM3+ socket motherboard
Corsair 550W bronze series modular PSI
2 modules of 4GB 1600MHz Vengeance DDR3 RAM
I might get an SSD, and load Windows 8 64 Bit on to it so I get quick boot times

This might change over time...

Oh and an I7 would be complete overkill... That there is the best AMD CPU on the market, and with 16 mb of cache to boot, it's a pretty sweet deal to say it costs £200 (reduced from £600)

With this system, there's no reason it would bottleneck, and I doubt I would, but if I needed to, I could SLI 2 760s...
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#6 Posted: 11:41:34 25/01/2014 | Topic Creator
Ok thanks, the motherboard is quad channel, and it has 6 SATA ports. The case is really easy to expand with, As it has like 5 3.5" bays and a 2.5" bracket. The case has really good airflow as well. I might even add a blue ray drive, as I found a cheap one...
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Will171717 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1208
#7 Posted: 03:59:39 02/02/2014
If you can't seem to get a NIVIDIA go with an Amd Radeon
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#8 Posted: 20:02:03 03/02/2014 | Topic Creator
To be honest, at the moment, I'm slightly inclined toward getting an XBOX One instead, as I have a lot of friends on XBOX Live, and there's a lotof console exclusive games I want to play so... BUT LONG LIVE THE PC MASTER RACE
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Spyro-Fan Platinum Sparx Gems: 5325
#9 Posted: 11:05:59 05/02/2014
I don't know if I'm a bit too late to reply.

If you want a gaming PC, I'd recommend investing more into a graphic card than the processor. Processor is good for multi-tasking, while graphic cards run most of the game.
I see you listed AMD FX-9590 CPU. I don't know what's its price where you live, though where I live, I'd rather buy Intel i5 processor for that price. Or FX-8350. I have it and it's great. If you want to save up even more, you can go for FX-8320 and clock it to work just like 8350. That way you can make room for an even better graphic card. Though if you're going for AMD's CPU, you should get a better cooler for it, as they tend to overheat very quickly.

Also, I agree with Pixilism about the power supply. I have a less power-hungry build than the one you listed, and my Thermaltake 550W slowly started dying after only about 5~6 months, and started dragging all other components with itself. I had to change two hard drives, a motherboard and a graphic card. Now I have Corsair 600W and it's doing ok, however I absolutely hate Corsair for their noisy power supplies. Mine makes an extremely loud high pitch whenever the computer is shut down (my model is Corsair CX600). If that kind of thing would bother you, don't go for that model. My friend has the same one and it does the same thing to him. Corsair also has a terrible customer service, at least from my experience. I've been waiting for a month for a reply to my question.
I'd really recommend one German PSU called 'Be Quiet!'. I know it's a funny name, but they have a long warranty, and I'm yet to see someone complain about it. I regret not going for that one instead of Corsair, and it cost only 10 pounds more. But whatever floats your boat.

So, yeah, power supply is very important too in my opinion. Try going for at least 100W more than recommended for your build, just to make sure it won't strain itself. Especially if you're going for GeForce.
jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#10 Posted: 19:50:03 07/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Hey,
I've decided, I might actually stick with the Gaming PC, and I've become friendly with a guy who owns a PC shop in my area... To be fair, I'm not too bothered about noise, and also, the CPU is £200, reduced from £600
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#11 Posted: 21:42:47 07/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Also, do I want to be displaying in HDMI or Display Port?
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#12 Posted: 23:46:39 07/02/2014 | Topic Creator
OK, I'll give it a look, it's just I'm struggling to find an AM3+ socket board that supports HDMI and USB 3.0...
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#13 Posted: 00:13:47 08/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Acer G6 Series 21.5" Full HD LED Monitor
Zalman Z11 Plus Gaming Black Midi Tower Case
Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 4GB Windforce Card
Assassins Creed IV - PC Game NVIDIA Download Voucher (Yay free game!)
Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel (It's actually 2 4GB Modules)
AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz Socket AM3+ Octo Core
Be Quiet! BN212 Power Zone Power Supply (850 Watts) 80 Plus Bronze with (135mm) SilentWings Fan
Be Quiet! BK012 Shadow Rock TopFlow
Cooler Master HTK-002 High Performance Thermal Compound
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (SP1)
Ducky DK2108 Zero Mechanical Keyboard Brown Cherry Switch
A4 Tech Bloody V7 Gaming Mouse
Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX AMD Socket AM3+ Motherboard
Genius GX Gaming GX-Control - soft gaming mouse pad
Western Digital Blue 500GB SATA II 3.5" Hard Drive
Samsung SH-224DB (24X) DVD-Writer SATA Black (Internal)
Scythe Kaze Q Fan Controller - Black

Total, lets say, after warranty, shipping etc. £1310, which is about $2155 I believe
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Shrazer320 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3564
#14 Posted: 03:54:37 08/02/2014
OP, I have one thing to tell you: go ask this on a computer/tech forum, not a forum for a kid's game series. You will get thousands of times more help.

That being said, I think the specs you listed are way over priced.
jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#15 Posted: 10:52:20 08/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Well this is a video gaming section of said forum, and no, I'd rather get help from like 6 people who are helpful, and I know, than migrate to a tech forum...
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Spyro-Fan Platinum Sparx Gems: 5325
#16 Posted: 13:34:21 08/02/2014
Quote: jet-vac6000
Also, do I want to be displaying in HDMI or Display Port?


HDMI is only important if your monitor also has built-in speakers. Otherwise, DVI has the same image quality as HDMI.

However, I agree with Shrazer. Way over priced. My entire PC cost half that price and it runs all games on optimal graphics. The only worse component I have is Radeon's 7770 graphic card.

In all honesty, you could buy two Radeon graphic cards and it would still cost less than that GeForce you listed, and you'd get same performance. Radeon is much cheaper, and doesn't require as much power as GeForce does. As for the performance difference, I think it's really minimal.

I still say you could go for FX-8350 instead of FX-9590. Only difference is in 0.7 Ghz. I seriously have no idea why would anybody need over 4Ghz for any game.

All in all, you really don't need the best of the best to have a good gaming experience. And in my opinion, there is no such thing as a future-proof component. Technology moves fast, and I bet that my PC will be pretty out-dated in only a few years. Buy what you think you would really, but really need, and not go overboard with the specs. After all, the good thing about computers is that you can upgrade it at any time.
jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#17 Posted: 14:43:13 08/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Which two Radeon GPU's would you recommend? Also, I'll look into the FX-8350...
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Spyro-Fan Platinum Sparx Gems: 5325
#18 Posted: 15:49:29 08/02/2014
I am not quite sure. There are many models, but you don't necessarily have to buy two. 2GB should server you just fine, even if you're a hardcore gamer. Crysis 3, for example, requires 2GB for high performance. If Crysis 3 doesn't require over 2GB, then I don't know what game would.
jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#19 Posted: 15:59:06 08/02/2014 | Topic Creator
I've looked at some of the other AMD cards, and right now, I think I might just stick with the GTX 760...
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Spyro-Fan Platinum Sparx Gems: 5325
#20 Posted: 16:28:22 08/02/2014
However, with Radeon, you can have multiple monitors plugged in. I'm not sure about GeForce though. I know GeForce can have up to 2 monitors plugged in while Radeon can have even more. Up to 6 I believe.
jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#21 Posted: 16:54:54 08/02/2014 | Topic Creator
To be fair, I doubt I'd use two, probably just one
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#22 Posted: 13:48:00 09/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case 1 £52.91 £52.91
AMD FX 9590 Octa Core Socket AM3+ 4.7GHz Processor 1 £232.44 £232.44
Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX Motherboard 1 £128.30 £128.30
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB OC Windforce Graphics Card 1 £234.17 £234.17
Assassins Creed IV - PC Game NVIDIA Download Voucher 1 £0.00 £0.00
Corsair Vengeance Performance Memory Module 8GB (2x4Gsmilie DDR3 1866MHz CL9 Unbuffered DIMM 2 £74.00 £148.00
Zalman CNPS10X Optima Heatsink and Fan 1 £16.31 £16.31
Cooler Master HTK-002 High Performance Thermal Compound 1 £2.00 £2.00
CCL Choice 320GB SATA-II HDD - Clean Pull 1 £22.99 £22.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (SP1) 2 £70.40 £140.80
Philips 224E5QHAB/00 (21.5 inch) LCD Monitor with LED Backlight 1920x1080 (Black) 1 £106.54 £106.54
ZM-K400G Gaming Keyboard 1 £18.00 £18.00
Gigabyte Eco-600 Long-life Wireless Laser Mouse 1 £23.80 £23.80
Genius GX Gaming GX-Control - soft gaming mouse pad 1 £7.32 £7.32
Seasonic Platinum 860W Power Supply Unit 1 £179.93 £179.93
Samsung SH-224DB (24X) DVD-Writer SATA Black (Internal) 1 £11.92 £11.92
Basket Total £1,325.43

I think I'm gonna stick with this build, although I might add some extra fans and get the BeQuiet! PSU as Spyro-Fan suggested...
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TacoMakerSkys Platinum Sparx Gems: 5652
#23 Posted: 22:57:22 10/02/2014
gaming pc scumbag
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#24 Posted: 19:40:28 11/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: TacoMakerSkys
gaming pc scumbag



Oh, I'm so jelly of your 720p graphics and 1.75GHz CPU...
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#25 Posted: 19:41:20 11/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Oh, and as it's a pretty beast CPU, I might watercool it...
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azz01 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3172
#26 Posted: 20:51:19 11/02/2014
I also want to get a gaming PC but I gots no money.
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TacoMakerSkys Platinum Sparx Gems: 5652
#27 Posted: 03:50:06 12/02/2014
Quote: jet-vac6000
Quote: TacoMakerSkys
gaming pc scumbag



Oh, I'm so jelly of your 720p graphics and 1.75GHz CPU...



wow nurd itz 480i wow get it rite

EDIT: Anyways, being serious now. You can get your questions answered faster here on http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace smilie
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#28 Posted: 19:51:19 12/02/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: azz01
I also want to get a gaming PC but I gots no money.




Just gonna leave this here...
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jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#29 Posted: 15:09:33 31/03/2014 | Topic Creator
Bumpety-Bump

SO, I've decided to get a somewhat lower-budget PC...
So I'm thinking:
Saphhire R7 260X 2GB OC
AMD 8350
Thoughts?????
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Spyro-Fan Platinum Sparx Gems: 5325
#30 Posted: 22:24:05 31/03/2014
Sapphire is good in my opinion. I really recommend it. I've had my Sapphire Radeon card for almost 10 years and it still works fluently (well, it just recently started playing up a little with text but nothing serious), except for that it's only 512MB. Nevertheless, it's reliable from my experience. Considering my old PC kept running at 70 Celsius degrees for years lol.

And no, Sapphire doesn't overheat to a temperature THAT high. I just never cleaned my old PC.
jet-vac6000 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1718
#31 Posted: 16:38:41 03/04/2014 | Topic Creator
Alternatively,
ASUS GTX 750Ti
Intel i7 4770K (Although due to this, it is about £40 over budget)
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