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Anytime time you preorder online they charge you the full amount. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it works from past experiences

Quote: Mage0069

Anytime time you preorder online they charge you the full amount. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it works from past experiences

Nah, he's talking about Enchanted Hoot Loop. It lists it as $14.96, but when you add it to cart, it says $99.96.

Shawn, I've contacted customer service. Hopefully it will be corrected soon.

Whoa that crazy hope it gets sorted soon. Hopefully they don't charge 100 in store on launch day/ midnight when I and a lot of others on here will picking it up

Quote: PlayableMoogle

Quote: Mage0069

Anytime time you preorder online they charge you the full amount. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it works from past experiences

Nah, he's talking about Enchanted Hoot Loop. It lists it as $14.96, but when you add it to cart, it says $99.96.

Shawn, I've contacted customer service. Hopefully it will be corrected soon.

Thanks. I did too so if I hear anything I will post it here for anyone else looking to preorder

Those absurd prices should just be placeholder ones. I'm not sure how Walmart could make the error of marking it so that it would charge you with the placeholder cost.

By the way, you lucky yanks, be grateful that Skylanders are only $100 there because over here the placeholder price for one game is $10,000.

Advertising / Asking for figures is against the forum rules.

oh i see i was watching family gamer tv and he said to go here because people in the us would be so kind as to help people get figures is there a bit of the forum to do this ?

There are other forums. He shouldn't have said that.

There are people on here who are very kind enough to do those kind of things. Too bad people like to rain on others parades.

Quote: TheGooch

There are people on here who are very kind enough to do those kind of things. Too bad people like to rain on others parades.

And those people who kindly offer have their posts deleted.

wich forum should i go to matteomax ?

Quote: zaganh

wich forum should i go to matteomax ?

http://skylanderstrading.webs.com/ is a good one.

thank you ill try them out

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Quote: TheGooch

There are people on here who are very kind enough to do those kind of things. Too bad people like to rain on others parades.

And those people who kindly offer have their posts deleted.

Oh, how I know.

Quote: Matteomax

Quote: TheGooch

There are people on here who are very kind enough to do those kind of things. Too bad people like to rain on others parades.

And those people who kindly offer have their posts deleted.

Kinda sad this is though - while I somewhat understand why surely you could have an subsection area for trades and such and have a buyer / trader aware sign.

Site owner doesn't want the risk. It's his site. His Rules. Cry if you want, but that stance isn't changing.

The response I got from Walmart Customer Service is that Enchanted Hoot Loop is currently out of stock and there is no timetable set on when it will become available.

Quote: GhostRoaster

Site owner doesn't want the risk. It's his site. His Rules. Cry if you want, but that stance isn't changing.

Absolutely. I don't know why we all have to mention this all the time. Trading/selling opens ALL KINDS of problems.

For starters, there are a lot of "under 18" people on here, what happens when they start making deals and have problems? There are all kinds of potential legal issues due to contract law concerning children. Making a deal online is still considered a form of "contract". Just imagine the outraged parent posting on here after little Johnny sent money for a Boomer and got nothing in return. Who wants to volunteer to come up/pay for an age verification for the forum? It isn't cheap.

And then there is the mere fact that on a deal gone wrong people then try to rope in the site owner. Who wants to deal with that stuff?

Add to that potential additional costs from webhosts for running commercial websites. Due to liability issues and the webhost not wanting to deal with that stuff either. If someone doesn't get help on a bad deal, the webhost would be the next level of escalation for some particularly determined people.

Lastly, but not leastly, who wants the floodgates to be opened for everyone that wants to make a deal. People don't pay attention to forum rules right now that doesn't allow trading/selling. What is going to make them follow the rules and post in the right area. Then you have all the moderation headaches from moving threads around and people getting upset that their thread "got deleted" when it was actually just moved.

Seriously Gooch, drop it already. Not gonna happen. Lots of places on the Internet where you CAN do this, stop trying to alter the rules here. And stop taking cheap shots at the moderators for not catering the site to your personal preferences.

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Quote: Matteomax

Quote: TheGooch

There are people on here who are very kind enough to do those kind of things. Too bad people like to rain on others parades.

And those people who kindly offer have their posts deleted.

Kinda sad this is though - while I somewhat understand why surely you could have an subsection area for trades and such and have a buyer / trader aware sign.

Ugh. This again?
This is an informational / fan forum website.
It's not a trading post. This has been discussed ad nauseum in various other threads over the past year-ish (or longer?).

LoL @ "raining on others' parades", by the way. This website provides you with early access to information and a forum to discuss a popular franchise ... for free. That's an awesome deal. No one is being "denied" a trading post. There's dozens of those on the internet elsewhere, both large and small. If that's what you want or need, go there.

Quote: Shawn

The response I got from Walmart Customer Service is that Enchanted Hoot Loop is currently out of stock and there is no timetable set on when it will become available.

Not surprising. I'm sure Wal-Mart would prefer that you actually go into one of their stores to purchase this item. Driving people into the store when they might not otherwise go into the store is what store-exclusive variants is all about (from the retailer's perspective), really.

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Quote: Shawn

The response I got from Walmart Customer Service is that Enchanted Hoot Loop is currently out of stock and there is no timetable set on when it will become available.

Not surprising. I'm sure Wal-Mart would prefer that you actually go into one of their stores to purchase this item. Driving people into the store when they might not otherwise go into the store is what store-exclusive variants is all about (from the retailer's perspective), really.

I have no doubt I can find this in store, if I wanted him. Wal Mart is generally good for the exclusives, from what I've seen from the last two games. Molten being the only exception (in my area at least).

So will EHM be released on 10/13 or 11/1, I've read both and now the Walmart link just says technical problems.?.

Quote: sklndrmommy

So will EHM be released on 10/13 or 11/1, I've read both and now the Walmart link just says technical problems.?.

At this point, unknown.
I'm sure that more information will be forthcoming in advance of 10-13-13.

Quote: defpally

Quote: GhostRoaster

Site owner doesn't want the risk. It's his site. His Rules. Cry if you want, but that stance isn't changing.

Absolutely. I don't know why we all have to mention this all the time. Trading/selling opens ALL KINDS of problems.

For starters, there are a lot of "under 18" people on here, what happens when they start making deals and have problems? There are all kinds of potential legal issues due to contract law concerning children. Making a deal online is still considered a form of "contract". Just imagine the outraged parent posting on here after little Johnny sent money for a Boomer and got nothing in return. Who wants to volunteer to come up/pay for an age verification for the forum? It isn't cheap.

And then there is the mere fact that on a deal gone wrong people then try to rope in the site owner. Who wants to deal with that stuff?

Add to that potential additional costs from webhosts for running commercial websites. Due to liability issues and the webhost not wanting to deal with that stuff either. If someone doesn't get help on a bad deal, the webhost would be the next level of escalation for some particularly determined people.

Lastly, but not leastly, who wants the floodgates to be opened for everyone that wants to make a deal. People don't pay attention to forum rules right now that doesn't allow trading/selling. What is going to make them follow the rules and post in the right area. Then you have all the moderation headaches from moving threads around and people getting upset that their thread "got deleted" when it was actually just moved.

Seriously Gooch, drop it already. Not gonna happen. Lots of places on the Internet where you CAN do this, stop trying to alter the rules here. And stop taking cheap shots at the moderators for not catering the site to your personal preferences.

To be fair, as has already been covered, the site should have age verification in place and is already breaking the law by collecting information from individuals under 13. Tie into that, I can find a multitude of sites where the stie owners/operators were held legally responsible for COPPA violations. I can't say I've EVER read a story where a site was held responsible for "trades gone bad" on their forums or such.

Dark doesn't want buy/sell/trade - that's fine... but don't try to claim it's some kind of legal burden. The fact that dark says "no" is reason enough, without making stuff up.

It still comes up at just under the $100 mark. Hope it is fixed soon. I wanna order one... Even though it will come crushed like all Walmart Skylanders do.

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Quote: dinoah2005

After further research, this is not a good deal. If you get this, the other triple packs (A, B, C) would not save you $$$ in the long run.

Triple Packs

Again there will be triple packs with three characters in them.

A: Slobber Tooth, Lava Barf Eruptor, Super Gulp Pop Fizz
B: Zoo Lou, Mega Ram Spyro, Blizzard Chill
C: Star Strike, Anchors Away Gill Grunt, Big Bang Trigger Happy
D: Scorp, Twin Blade Chop Chop, Heavy Duty Sprocket

This was found on this forum:
//www.darkspyro.net/swapforce/

And then if you get this walmart triple your getting another spyro, star strike and another pop fizz (if you buy the 4 above).

Hmmm....
I believe that was my point all along.

Quote: PlayableMoogle

I'm sorry, but can you guys elaborate on a few things that appear to have escaped me in other posts?

1. Frito-Lay coupon for $10? Is this with the new Fright Rider promotion? It isn't with the Sidekicks one, is it?

2. Extra core figure of your choice from TRU with purchase of a starter? I also did not see this when I recently pre-ordered (during the 20% coupon promotion running from 9/19-9/21). I thought it was just Hex.

Thanks for any help!

1: $10 Swap Force Starter coupon is in the Frito Lay Sidekicks bag of chips, Not sure about the Fright Rider since I am still waiting for it to hit the West Coast.

2: Post #75 should answer your question - //forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/vi...ic=82121&page=2

Dinoah2005...forgive my ignorance but the walmart triplw bwing discussed is with their bundle?? Is this a special grouping? Thx shelly

Quote: shelly9871

Dinoah2005...forgive my ignorance but the walmart triplw bwing discussed is with their bundle?? Is this a special grouping? Thx shelly

It's included in the bundle, but is also being released separately.

Quote: UncleBob

To be fair, as has already been covered, the site should have age verification in place and is already breaking the law by collecting information from individuals under 13. Tie into that, I can find a multitude of sites where the stie owners/operators were held legally responsible for COPPA violations. I can't say I've EVER read a story where a site was held responsible for "trades gone bad" on their forums or such.

Dark doesn't want buy/sell/trade - that's fine... but don't try to claim it's some kind of legal burden. The fact that dark says "no" is reason enough, without making stuff up.

It's not making stuff up, it is several of the multitude of reasons he has for not doing it not necessarily just the one reason. Are you suggesting people do not sue for unprecedented reasons or for fairly stupid things? And no matter how dumb, it is time and expense to defend against it. He hasn't said specifically why he doesn't allow it, but my whole point was to point out that it isn't just Dark being mean - which is kinda what Gooch has been dancing around. Gooch has been told "no" which apparently isn't reason enough for him, as he keeps on going.

All I'm saying is, I don't see the point with magic 3-pack when there will be 3 other 3-packs that will cover the 3 magic characters.
Here is how it looks:

A: Slobber Tooth, Lava Barf Eruptor, Super Gulp Pop Fizz
B: Zoo Lou, Mega Ram Spyro, Blizzard Chill
C: Star Strike, Anchors Away Gill Grunt, Big Bang Trigger Happy = $75
This could be cheaper if TRU does BOGO %40 on release day.

If you get the Magic 3-Pack ($24.99)
You will need to spend $10.99 x 6 = $65.94 + $24.99(Magic) = $90.94

Unless you have to have all packages, its not worth it.
As for me I just want 1 of each character, I don't care to have duplicates of the same character.

I hope this clears it up?

Dinoah is right. That magic pack is a waste if you're trying to get all the figures. Glad I read that so I don't get it.

Thanks dinoah for pointing that out so I don't have to bother with the headache of rearranging my launch day plans to get this pack.

Also, are people having issues ordering the Enchanted Hoot Loop online? I ordered it just fine on Tuesday. Maybe they already sold out of their online pre-orders, if that's possible?

Quote: defpally

It's not making stuff up, it is several of the multitude of reasons he has for not doing it not necessarily just the one reason. Are you suggesting people do not sue for unprecedented reasons or for fairly stupid things? And no matter how dumb, it is time and expense to defend against it. He hasn't said specifically why he doesn't allow it, but my whole point was to point out that it isn't just Dark being mean - which is kinda what Gooch has been dancing around. Gooch has been told "no" which apparently isn't reason enough for him, as he keeps on going.

By that logic, someone could sue dark for not allowing B/S/T. Sure, it's a stupid reason to do it and they'd never win, but if we're going to go on crazy "what ifs", why not go all out?

The idea that it's some kind of legal burden is either a complete lack of understanding of the law or a flimsy excuse at best. If that's the only reason anyone can give for not doing it, then I don't blame someone for constantly bringing it up.

I was finally able to pre-order EFL this morning for $14.96.

Thanks for the heads up I was able to grab one.

Quote: UncleBob

By that logic, someone could sue dark for not allowing B/S/T. Sure, it's a stupid reason to do it and they'd never win, but if we're going to go on crazy "what ifs", why not go all out?

The idea that it's some kind of legal burden is either a complete lack of understanding of the law or a flimsy excuse at best. If that's the only reason anyone can give for not doing it, then I don't blame someone for constantly bringing it up.

Uncle, now you are arguing for the sake of arguing again. Here is exactly how things turn south - and why you get such a negative rep with some people. You know, despite our past debates, I hold no ill will toward you. I think in general you are a benefit here and have provided some quality heads ups on Walmart.

This is the point where you go "hey I get your point, don't really think that is the reason" and let it go. Heck, I don't think it is Dark's actual reason either. I think he just doesn't want to put himself through the potential headaches from trades gone bad or have the forum devolve into page after page of "LF Boomer, trading Whirlwind".

It's just idle conversation towards Gooch who simply will not let this go. My main point was it was like that blog "Why Was I Banned", which took posts from the XBox forum that were absurd concerning children that had duped their parents into thinking "mean ole' Microsoft" had banned their child's Live account for no reason. It was always entertaining (too bad the site is gone now) when their outraged parents were confronted with what Little Johnny was actually up to online. Parents don't always get the full story from their children, and I know I wouldn't want to field disputes from trades/sales from parents concerning their kids trading Skylanders with other people. There are a ton of scammers out there, and we have even had many of them on here (notably the ace guy in December that conned another member out of a Gnarly Tree Rex and claimed his "friend" showed him Thumpback out the back door of TRU a month before he came out). Things like that are why my oldest isn't allowed on the open Internet, he simply hasn't developed a sufficient sense of skepticism toward anonymous people - but not all parents are that cautious.

Edit: Oh, and the Age Verification thing I mentioned above was just concerning the obvious next point of "how about we just don't let kids trade then and let the adults do it". Not really just from a legal standpoint. I don't think I was terribly clear on this.

^ Agree with Defpally on all counts above!

... wasn't this topic about walmart and enchanted holy loop, not a presidential debate?

Quote: cbunny84

... wasn't this topic about walmart and enchanted holy loop, not a presidential debate?

The self appointed Thread Police has arrived. Thanks for adding another off topic post, perhaps you should note the irony. The whining about off topic posts around here almost outnumbers the off topic posts themselves.

And yes, it was, until someone turned it into another "we should be able to trade and sell things here" topic. Since you are so interested in the topic, perhaps you can add some additional insight or information not present in the first couple of posts?

Quote: defpally

Uncle, now you are arguing for the sake of arguing again. Here is exactly how things turn south - and why you get such a negative rep with some people.

Let me assure you - those 'people' aren't folks whom I'm concerned with.

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This is the point where you go "hey I get your point, don't really think that is the reason" and let it go.

I could do that. And so could you have. Instead of every post that comes up about trading, you or someone else chiming in the same stuff that just doesn't apply, how about you just let it go?

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Heck, I don't think it is Dark's actual reason either.

So... why repeat it?

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It's just idle conversation towards Gooch who simply will not let this go.

Gooch wasn't the one who brought up trading in this thread. It was a new member. Gooch simply gave his two cents. Same thing you've heard before, sure. But just like you felt the need to reply to his post, I felt the need to reply to yours. The only difference is that Gooch was stating his opinion and the facts of what has happened on the forum to a new member. You're stating falsehoods that even you don't believe to a new member.

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Edit: Oh, and the Age Verification thing I mentioned above was just concerning the obvious next point of "how about we just don't let kids trade then and let the adults do it". Not really just from a legal standpoint. I don't think I was terribly clear on this.

I knew what you meant, I'm just saying it doesn't really apply. The Age Verification thing is something the site should have, with or without trading.

Ugh. Let it go, Bob. How can you claim that you aren't contrary and generally seeking conflict or pointless debate when you make posts like the one you just made directed at Defpally?

C'mon, man ... you're doing nothing there other than trying to egg him on and/or trying to fuel a fire that doesn't need to burn.

Geez defpally....give cbunny a break.

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Quote: BahamutBreaker

UncleBob, I really have nothing left to say to you. Go away and leave this community alone. And if you can't handle that, then at least leave me alone. Thank you.

Bahamut - if you want me to "leave you alone", then you need to butt out of my conversations and stop posting attacks at me. After the previous thread, I thought you sincerely planned to stop trying to antagonize and goad me into fights, so I said to myself that I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and leave you alone - if you showed me the same. If you want me to leave you alone, then don't respond to my posts (even in a backward/secret/code/passive aggressive way). Consider this your singular "freebie".

Quote: cbunny84

Dinoah is right. That magic pack is a waste if you're trying to get all the figures. Glad I read that so I don't get it.

Quote: Friendzie

Thanks dinoah for pointing that out so I don't have to bother with the headache of rearranging my launch day plans to get this pack.

No Problem. Since SF is going to bleed me dry, I am trying to get the most out of it and the Magic 3Pack would be a BIG MAGIC TRICK to my wallet.

I hope others see this before they end up buying the Walmart Special and then realize they would not be able to take advantage of the 3-packs that come out.

I wish they did what they did when Best Buy got the special bundle for SSA. You got an adventure pack and a 3-pack. I cant remember how much it was. We missed it since we got into SSA in January and by then the Best Buy bundle was very hard to find.

I've been considering getting the magic pack

Quote: ZapNorris

I've been considering getting the magic pack

If you don't mind me asking, Why?

Do you plan on getting the other 3-packs (The Magic characters are also in those)?
Are you one of those that must have all packagings?

It would have been cooler if the magic pack had figures that weren't in other packs or had 2 figures that weren't in packs and one variant.

Quote: SlayerX11

It would have been cooler if the magic pack had figures that weren't in other packs or had 2 figures that weren't in packs and one variant.

I totally agree.
I wonder how many people will buy this, not knowing in the long run they will end up spending more to complete their collection.

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Quote: SlayerX11

It would have been cooler if the magic pack had figures that weren't in other packs or had 2 figures that weren't in packs and one variant.

I totally agree.
I wonder how many people will buy this, not knowing in the long run they will end up spending more to complete their collection.

Some, at $75 for the game alone that is alot for some ppl. Thou some may find the deal with the triple and a figure worth it for one large xmas gift for johnny or annie (random names). There is also the fact not everyone buys triples, some kids get just a figure here and there. I'm pretty sure $25 for a toy turns some ppl off. $10 is prob the ok amount and even a giant at $15 is pushing it. I truely see this package as a black friday/xmas only item that will disappear after xmas (and whatever is left will sit on the shelves for awhile until a birthday or something).

So ya i do see it selling, but I also think it will be a limited run item.