darkSpyro

With the new Kudo's system and wanting to make sure things work out I was wondering if anyone has tried un-friend and re-friend to see if they get the 50 kudo bonus. I am willing to give it a try with one of my friends and report back. I am worried that you cannot as that would be a way to make mega kudos by just friending and refriending over and over again. Also I thought it would be a good place to collect new friends. I did get a gem while searching for Kudo's. Kudos are hard to see especially if the person has a lot of fisheries, or bed and breakfast. Yea Woz that means you.

You can friend me at superstickboy if you have not and are looking for a Kudo bonus.

I wonder if unfriending will work. Might as well give it a shot, you can unfriend me and I will let you back on the list...mcquist5

Just un-friend you mcquist5. Will try and re-friend.

I want to know if you can do many rounds of this....

Well it didn't work on my end. I went through my 80+ friends and picked up a few new ones to end the night at 545. 2,000 is going to take awhile!

I need 13 more friends!!

ID: mcquist5

mcquist5 you are now back on my list back in Activate. You have not shown up in my list of friends to give gifts and kudos. So it looks like it did not work and I lost mcquist5 in my list.

My friend list is capped at 90. I thought the cap limit was 100. Is this a change or was I wrong? Oh well, it gave me an excuse to remove a couple of bums. With the incentive of 50 kudos per new friend, I wonder if people will be quicker to start dropping existing friends.

Just got Gurglefin. He has a quest to open 15 gifts get 3 gems.

Ryans18 is an awesome friend. He gifts daily, is willing to listen if you need to talk, and he is dashingly handsome. You should add him as a friend.

Add me for kudos... Raynestorm

I gift everyday

what is kudos if you don't mind me asking?

Kudos are the new gifting, comes with the latest update from the App Store.

Sent a request to you all and anyone can feel free to add me, this new bonus system is a great idea! Feels like the first Tuesday in ages that has unlocked a whole bunch of characters!
ID: flumpy89

I am sure developers did it so you bump old friends for the new ones.

Definitely, the way to earn kudos is via new friends as 1 kudo per present is too few if you want to reach 2000.

BTW, is there a way to see the presents you exchanged with your friends? No green or red arrow anymore.

I gave up after visiting friends after 40 minutes last night. It started too feel a lot like work. That's not why I play this. I want to be able to quickly log in and log out, not feel like I need to spend 60 minutes repeatedly rapping houses.

Apparently outstanding invites count against your friend total. After revoking months old invites, I was able to add new friends.

I haven't updated yet. Considering defriending everyone BEFORE updating, in the hope it will treat all those I refriend AFTER the update as new friends. Goint hrough that process 200 times is a fair amount of work if all I'm doing is wasting my time though. What does everyone think?

This is a terrible update. You win kudos one by one (need 2000 for the new Skylander). Plus, you lost the chance to earn XP, Energy or gems from the friends. The only way to progress is dumping old friends and getting new ones, with a cap of 100, which is the amount most of us had.
Game has lost a lot. I hope they fix it.

Post friend codes here I need more friends

Woz defriend me and ill be sure to add you again.

Ryans18 and caden329

Quote: sungren150

This is a terrible update. You win kudos one by one (need 2000 for the new Skylander). Plus, you lost the chance to earn XP, Energy or gems from the friends. The only way to progress is dumping old friends and getting new ones, with a cap of 100, which is the amount most of us had.
Game has lost a lot. I hope they fix it.

You can still earn Gems and will do so at about the same rate as what you're used to. With a full friend list you can earn 300 Kudos a day from visiting them plus whatever gifts you receive. The XP, Gold, and Energy payouts were so piddly that they weren't worth the time spent visiting kingdoms and barely worth the time spent sending/receiving gifts. With the Kudos update they're dangling real rewards at the end of the stick and they're very attainable without cycling through friends. And that's all on top of the huge improvements they made to the friend menu.

Edit: I will concede that 50 Kudos for new friends is a bit of a slap to longtime players but even without that bonus you can still earn Admiral Thumpback in a week.

Just adding that you do occasionally win a gem when collecting gifts. You also get occasional gems when visiting and collecting kudos.

If you dont visit and people are reliably gifting, it will take a bit over 20 days to collect the kudos. I think a bit of patience is in order. If you visit all 100 friends you can collect 400 per day. If you dump inactive friends and replace, that gives 50 each. Its not the end of the world....

My biggest complaint is I doesnt tell me who isnt gifting. I just got a surge of invites from new people and I have no way of dumping freeloaders.

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With a full friend list you can earn 300 Kudos a day from visiting them plus whatever gifts you receive. The XP, Gold, and Energy payouts were so piddly that they weren't worth the time spent visiting kingdoms and barely worth the time spent sending/receiving gifts. With the Kudos update they're dangling real rewards at the end of the stick and they're very attainable without cycling through friends. And that's all on top of the huge improvements they made to the friend menu.

Edit: I will concede that 50 Kudos for new friends is a bit of a slap to longtime players but even without that bonus you can still earn Admiral Thumpback in a week.

How long does it take to visit 100 friends? Not counting the times that the message "friend cannot be visited" appears.
I liked the old rewards as you might get 2000 energy and 3000XP just by opening gifts.
I am now removing old friends just for the fact that they haven't connected in a week. It is not fair, if you provide kudos for adding friends, either raise the friend cap or take into account the old friendsihps, but this is not the case

Add me as friend. lvl37
Username: Pici

Sorry, Pici, I cannot find you in Activate accounts.
Add me, please: sundgren150

Quote: Woz

I haven't updated yet. Considering defriending everyone BEFORE updating, in the hope it will treat all those I refriend AFTER the update as new friends. Goint hrough that process 200 times is a fair amount of work if all I'm doing is wasting my time though. What does everyone think?

As I have not updated yet I was wondering the same thing. Would be worthwhile if it works.
It does pose the risk of losing friends if they don't accept my re-invitation.

To let you all know: I will accept your invitations if you want to try this defriending and refriending.

I won't be home in another couple of hours to do the update though.
I do wonder if a pending invitation before the update will give me kudos after the update or if this only works for invitations received after the update. I hope the former.

Do both parties receive the 20 kudos or only the one who sends the invitation?

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How long does it take to visit 100 friends? Not counting the times that the message "friend cannot be visited" appears.
I liked the old rewards as you might get 2000 energy and 3000XP just by opening gifts.
I am now removing old friends just for the fact that they haven't connected in a week. It is not fair, if you provide kudos for adding friends, either raise the friend cap or take into account the old friendsihps, but this is not the case

It takes a long time. You can probably only do 1 per minute sustained. One might be able to do a few a bit faster but once your brain numbs over you will slow down. I did all 100 on my friend list last night while watching the football game. If the football game was not on, not sure I would have done all 100.

I have to admit, this update stinks. Anything this tedious is just frustrating. Frustration is what causes people to quit games. Having to visit friends as the major source of kudos is a huge missed step by the Devs.

The improvements to gifting (both revieving and giving) are excellent though. Recieving is 1 tap now and you can get 7 people per screen vs the 3 you could under the old format. And giving is much easier since 7 people fit on the screen now. Recieving and giving gifts will be a breeze now.

However, that's only 100 kudus per day entirely dependant on how many of your friends gift you (and they removed the info to tell if you have mooching friends). This pales compared to the 300 kudus per day you can gain if you visit....if you are willing to spend an hour and a half scrolling around other peoples islands.

Info to all my friends: I am renewing the list. If I delete you by mistake, please send me back an invitation.

I was thinking, just this morning, that the difference between this game and most social games is the fact that you didn't have to do a lot of work with friends. Sending/receiving gifts was a great help and didn't really take that much time. I rarely ever went to other kingdoms, which is probably why they initiated the new kudos system. I really don't mind the system, as it's better than the measly gold and xp. I had always hated other social games because they require to get help from other friends by receiving gifts in order to accomplish goals. This, in a way, leans in that direction, but I guess it's not as horrible as most. Although I hate to wait forever just to get items with kudos if they decide to just pull them or keep adding more that makes it hard to keep up (especially alter egos). I'm hoping that this isn't the new way of doing alter egos and that we still get the monthly alter ego in the well.

Looks like I'm going to have to start adding friends as I don't have anywhere near my cap.

Fully agree with obidawsn.
2000 kudos for a skylander when you have to earn them one by one is abusive.

Feel free to add me Jedi_Kunle

First up, add me as jelifah

Second, Here's a compilation from reddit and darkspyro with people requesting to be added. If you reply to this I'll update as I see them:

I hope this is helpful and not seen as an invasion of privacy. Feel free to pm me or post asking to be removed if you don't want to be on this list

Darkspyro.net (53)
Alisha0422
boba772
Boomshakalaka
caden329
Cengaverrr and JeanineB
charred
cnaiser
Darrenf
diosAchilleus
Doylerulez
Dragonstar7
DuneClendel
flumpy89
GilGrunt1969
graz73
Halycon85
jacksontreerex
Jasonandnoahgames
jdsherman253
Jedi_Kunle
JPO
Kara-Zor-El
kbenson13
Kerania
kluless3
Lashie
LCCCTWN
Mariojedi
Mattya3004
mcquist5
metazine
mlopez
Nroc-Nuika
Nubie
paulos
Pici
PrincessLeia
Raynestorm
rbryer
ryans18
sinigord
skylanderbunny
sklndrmommy
Snowknife
Su Winter
sundgren150
sunfiredragon
superstickboy
TinyMonsters
Trixy
Umley
wkgrandma
Wrecking_Ball

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jelifah
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you can add me to the above list. Activate name: LCCCTWN. Not sure how many friends I already have, but will add anyone that I can. (I don't delete friends until they haven't logged in for over a month. And I don't pay attention to who does or does not gift.)

add me to the list too: graz73

Me too GilGrunt1969

I deleted people that hadn't logged on in a while last night so now I have room for more. I'm trying to add those on this list. Please add me :-) my user name is the same as this screen name. I gift daily, I'm not so great at visiting others but I may have to improve on that. My guys are Boomshackalacka and jacksontreerex and I check their games each night to be sure they gift.
The update is a mixed bag in my opinion. I like the new characters but I'm not crazy about the gifting changes. I feel like this is to reward new players rather than promoting established ones and it makes me regret spending my iTunes card on Gems last week since established players don't matter.

I'm not trying to be an apologist here but I think you guys might be looking at this update the wrong way. You're not being forced to perform the social actions. Other time management games (Such as Farmville and Castleville) do actually punish you for not using their social features by bottlenecking your progress within the game. As it stands, the Kudos exclusive items are rewards for those who choose to take advantage of Lost Islands' social features but none of the items are required to play the game in any shape or form. You just really, really want Admiral Thumpback as do I.

Quote: sungren150

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With a full friend list you can earn 300 Kudos a day from visiting them plus whatever gifts you receive. The XP, Gold, and Energy payouts were so piddly that they weren't worth the time spent visiting kingdoms and barely worth the time spent sending/receiving gifts. With the Kudos update they're dangling real rewards at the end of the stick and they're very attainable without cycling through friends. And that's all on top of the huge improvements they made to the friend menu.

Edit: I will concede that 50 Kudos for new friends is a bit of a slap to longtime players but even without that bonus you can still earn Admiral Thumpback in a week.

How long does it take to visit 100 friends? Not counting the times that the message "friend cannot be visited" appears.
I liked the old rewards as you might get 2000 energy and 3000XP just by opening gifts.
I am now removing old friends just for the fact that they haven't connected in a week. It is not fair, if you provide kudos for adding friends, either raise the friend cap or take into account the old friendsihps, but this is not the case

I think this is where the Kudos system really shines. How many people actually looked at the big picture like that? I didn't. I just looked at the small amount of energy or gold that I received and decided that it wasn't worth it. Now, instead of handing your award out piecemeal they instead put a huge reward in front of you and let you work towards it. It's much easier for me to spend the time needed to collect Kudos from other Kingdoms when I know exactly what I'm getting at the end.

Another underrated change that came with this update is that Kudos are banked as you go. Under the old system, when you received rewards for delivering Invitations they weren't banked until you returned to your home kingdom. That meant it was always a gamble to visit multiple kingdoms consecutively because if you were disconnected for any reason (Like your wife calling to talk about whatever it is wives talk about) then you lose all of your collected rewards up to that point. Now if you're disconnected you only lose progress from the last Kingdom you visited. Huge time saver right there.

Quote: portalflip

Another underrated change that came with this update is that Kudos are banked as you go. Under the old system, when you received rewards for delivering Invitations they weren't banked until you returned to your home kingdom. That meant it was always a gamble to visit multiple kingdoms consecutively because if you were disconnected for any reason (Like your wife calling to talk about whatever it is wives talk about) then you lose all of your collected rewards up to that point. Now if you're disconnected you only lose progress from the last Kingdom you visited. Huge time saver right there.

That's cool, I've definitely had problems where I was going from kingdom to kingdom and it would crash, then I'd loose everything. It got to the point where I'd leave if I got a gem just to make sure it saved.

Quote: portalflip

I'm not trying to be an apologist here but I think you guys might be looking at this update the wrong way. You're not being forced to perform the social actions. Other time management games (Such as Farmville and Castleville) do actually punish you for not using their social features by bottlenecking your progress within the game. As it stands, the Kudos exclusive items are rewards for those who choose to take advantage of Lost Islands' social features but none of the items are required to play the game in any shape or form. You just really, really want Admiral Thumpback as do I.

You're a dirty apologist! (But I also think you're right.)

Quote: portalflip

I'm not trying to be an apologist here but I think you guys might be looking at this update the wrong way. You're not being forced to perform the social actions. Other time management games (Such as Farmville and Castleville) do actually punish you for not using their social features by bottlenecking your progress within the game. As it stands, the Kudos exclusive items are rewards for those who choose to take advantage of Lost Islands' social features but none of the items are required to play the game in any shape or form. You just really, really want Admiral Thumpback as do I.

That is what I was talking about (possibly in another thread, I don't remember). At least they're not bottlenecking you into doing it. And it encourages the social mode. I even found a hidden object game that I liked on facebook and eventually I couldn't move on because you had to build stuff in order to get to the next part of the game and to built it, you had to get so many friends to send you the materials. Ridiculous. This is more like a reward than anything else.


I didn't know, however, that the rewards from visiting other kingdoms didn't save until you went back. Good to know, of course after they fix that.

add neubjini

Two thoughts:

There is nothing social about in game visiting. Going for a walk through your real life neighborhood and looking at your neighbors yards is not social. Further, if anyone says hi, be sure you ignore them. It won't be long before you are called anti-social....

They have introduced a new, VERY tedious game mechanic with the reward for doing so as the best character in the game (+50% gold giant).

Quote: Charred

Two thoughts:

There is nothing social about in game visiting. Going for a walk through your real life neighborhood and looking at your neighbors yards is not social. Further, if anyone says hi, be sure you ignore them. It won't be long before you are called anti-social....

They have introduced a new, VERY tedious game mechanic with the reward for doing so as the best character in the game (+50% gold giant).

It's social in that it encourages you to seek out help from other people and more importantly gets people talking about and sharing the game. In the past 24 hours alone there's been a huge uptick in Lost Islands related activity on Twitter and an influx of Lost Islands related traffic to my blog. This is very good for the development team as well as for us since most iOS games live and die by how well they monetize.

Tedious? Yes, but it's the same exact mechanic as what was we had before. The only difference now is that VV put a very desirable reward at the end of it.

Quote: portalflip

I'm not trying to be an apologist here but I think you guys might be looking at this update the wrong way. You're not being forced to perform the social actions. Other time management games (Such as Farmville and Castleville) do actually punish you for not using their social features by bottlenecking your progress within the game. As it stands, the Kudos exclusive items are rewards for those who choose to take advantage of Lost Islands' social features but none of the items are required to play the game in any shape or form. You just really, really want Admiral Thumpback as do I.

To some extent I will like the kudos as I get used to them - I've always been a slow to warm person. I do like the increased reward for my work by collecting kudos rather than generic experience points etc. I just wish those of use who have been gifting and playing got some sort of Kudos boost rather than being unable to get the 50 kudos bonus for adding new friends when our lists are full. I also don't understand why activate cares if we visit other friends islands since we can't do anything to help, etc.
give me a couple of weeks and I'll get over it all and like the new stuff...

Quote: dark52

It's just +25%, the other 25 is from the Water Week.

That's new. This is the first time I've seen a gold bonus calculated into the character screen.

Ok you answered my question as I asked it. If I'm busy checking these friends I can't spend that time starting up on a different tap game, etc. I get it... I love this game and I love this community, but I'm afraid this is going to wear me out.

Add: Woz

For the record, I defriended everyone BEFORE saving to the iPad, manually saving to the cloud, and THEN applying the update. It didn't help. Activate still remembers old pre-save friends.

Unfortunately, this with this new "feature" that rewards new friends and spurns old ones, I don't imagine it will be long before the word "churn" starts being used in these threads...