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Quote: aran

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that's just plane wrong

I agree, does "stop" mean anything to you jokers? Pleasr stop mocking it! I mean you, Healthy Green hive, aran, and I respect what you have said, FW.

People make jokes about the civil war and that was hundreds of times more bloody and violent than 9/11. The only reason why jokes based on 9/11 aren't accepted now is because it's a recent event.

Quote: MoonHorizons

People make jokes about the civil war and that was hundreds of times more bloody and violent than 9/11. The only reason why jokes based on 9/11 aren't accepted now is because it's a recent event.

>recent

It's been 12 years.

The atomic bombing of Nagasaki cost 80,000 lives, and that too was an act of terrorism. Double that for Hiroshima. All I've heard from American patriots when these incidents are mentioned is: "Ehehehaha those japs sure got what was coming for them."

Your all jerks to insult 9/11 so shut up.

Quote: ninja9351

Your all jerks to insult 9/11 so shut up.

In 50-80 years from now, you'll see people joking about 9/11 and insulting it. Would they be jerks than?

happy 9/11. how may i direct your plane.

Quote: CAV

Recent enough. People that live today were (for the most part obviously) alive when it happened, and therefore find it in bad taste to joke about it. Chances are it was bad taste to joke about Pearl Harbor at the time too.

I guess that largely depends on your point of view. Remember the Indian Ocean Tsunami in 2004? 300,000 dead. Not much in the way of global remembrance when compared to 9/11.

Don't get me wrong, I still don't approve of punching jokes about the attack, but I also don't think of it as all that recent.

Quote: CAV

That was not an act of terrorism, but an act of war. A war that was going on for several years and was going to continue if they didn't drop the bombs.

Were they right in doing so? Of course not. But it was a quick way to end a war that was going to cost many more lives. And the creation of nuclear weapons has indirectly saved MILLIONS more (I can make a thread if people want an explanation to that).

Terrorism means the deliberate use of terror or violence to coerce or otherwise influence your victims.

The atomic bombings weren't meant to "quickly reach a decicive military victory".
Two weapons of mass destruction were deliberately targeted at non-combatants. Not military bases, factories, airfields, harbors or other points of military interest, but two of the most heavily populated areas of Japan. Masses of innocent civilians. All on purpose.
The point of these attacks was to simply build up a massive bodycount to scare the japanese into surrendering. That is terrorism at it's finest, no matter the reasons.

And thanks, but you needen't bother. I'm rather familiar with the subject and my standing towards nuclear weapons in general was not in question here.

Quote: Samius

Quote: CAV

Recent enough. People that live today were (for the most part obviously) alive when it happened, and therefore find it in bad taste to joke about it. Chances are it was bad taste to joke about Pearl Harbor at the time too.

I guess that largely depends on your point of view. Remember the Indian Ocean Tsunami in 2004? 300,000 dead. Not much in the way of global remembrance when compared to 9/11.

Don't get me wrong, I still don't approve of punching jokes about the attack, but I also don't think of it as all that recent.

Quote: CAV

That was not an act of terrorism, but an act of war. A war that was going on for several years and was going to continue if they didn't drop the bombs.

Were they right in doing so? Of course not. But it was a quick way to end a war that was going to cost many more lives. And the creation of nuclear weapons has indirectly saved MILLIONS more (I can make a thread if people want an explanation to that).

Terrorism means the deliberate use of terror or violence to coerce or otherwise influence your victims.

The atomic bombings weren't meant to "quickly reach a decicive military victory".
Two weapons of mass destruction were deliberately targeted at non-combatants. Not military bases, factories, airfields, harbors or other points of military interest, but two of the most heavily populated areas of Japan. Masses of innocent civilians. All on purpose.
The point of these attacks was to simply build up a massive bodycount to scare the japanese into surrendering. That is terrorism at it's finest, no matter the reasons.

And thanks, but you needen't bother. I'm rather familiar with the subject and my standing towards nuclear weapons in general was not in question here.

they also wanted to test to powers of the nuclear bomb so they picked a city that was hardly untouched by the war and see what there creation can do...

Quote: Samius

Quote: CAV

Recent enough. People that live today were (for the most part obviously) alive when it happened, and therefore find it in bad taste to joke about it. Chances are it was bad taste to joke about Pearl Harbor at the time too.

I guess that largely depends on your point of view. Remember the Indian Ocean Tsunami in 2004? 300,000 dead. Not much in the way of global remembrance when compared to 9/11.

Don't get me wrong, I still don't approve of punching jokes about the attack, but I also don't think of it as all that recent.

Quote: CAV

That was not an act of terrorism, but an act of war. A war that was going on for several years and was going to continue if they didn't drop the bombs.

Were they right in doing so? Of course not. But it was a quick way to end a war that was going to cost many more lives. And the creation of nuclear weapons has indirectly saved MILLIONS more (I can make a thread if people want an explanation to that).

Terrorism means the deliberate use of terror or violence to coerce or otherwise influence your victims.

The atomic bombings weren't meant to "quickly reach a decicive military victory".
Two weapons of mass destruction were deliberately targeted at non-combatants. Not military bases, factories, airfields, harbors or other points of military interest, but two of the most heavily populated areas of Japan. Masses of innocent civilians. All on purpose.
The point of these attacks was to simply build up a massive bodycount to scare the japanese into surrendering. That is terrorism at it's finest, no matter the reasons.

And thanks, but you needen't bother. I'm rather familiar with the subject and my standing towards nuclear weapons in general was not in question here.

they also wanted to test to powers of the nuclear bomb so they picked a city that was hardly untouched by the war and see what there creation can do...

Quote: MoonHorizons

They already knew the power of a nuclear bomb from previous testings on random islands or in deserts.

These random islands and deserts didn't have people living on them. There was no way to observe what the heat and the radiation fallout would do to a person, and how the blast would affect heavily populated areas, mainly buildings, in a larger scale.

This could be compared to something as mundane as running five miles on a treadmill to see if you can handle it, and then running five miles for real. The effects are not identical.

Quote: aran

Quote: Samius

I guess that largely depends on your point of view. Remember the Indian Ocean Tsunami in 2004? 300,000 dead. Not much in the way of global remembrance when compared to 9/11.

Don't get me wrong, I still don't approve of punching jokes about the attack, but I also don't think of it as all that recent.


Terrorism means the deliberate use of terror or violence to coerce or otherwise influence your victims.

The atomic bombings weren't meant to "quickly reach a decicive military victory".
Two weapons of mass destruction were deliberately targeted at non-combatants. Not military bases, factories, airfields, harbors or other points of military interest, but two of the most heavily populated areas of Japan. Masses of innocent civilians. All on purpose.
The point of these attacks was to simply build up a massive bodycount to scare the japanese into surrendering. That is terrorism at it's finest, no matter the reasons.

And thanks, but you needen't bother. I'm rather familiar with the subject and my standing towards nuclear weapons in general was not in question here.

they also wanted to test to powers of the nuclear bomb so they picked a city that was hardly untouched by the war and see what there creation can do...

They already knew the power of a nuclear bomb from previous testings on random islands or in deserts.