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TheGooch Blue Sparx Gems: 709
#51 Posted: 01:59:20 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: shelly9871
Extreme coupons or something like that--people even teach classes about doing it.



Since other people on here are self appointing roles I officially announce that I will from this day forward be known as Professor Gooch DarkSpyro deal making extraordinaire. Hahahahaha!
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#52 Posted: 02:00:15 27/06/2013
Quote: shelly9871
Extreme coupons or something like that--people even teach classes about doing it.


Right, but this is using coupon in price match situations that the manufacturer or retailer may not have desired. Good for you, but I'm betting there's a reason why it's being shot down for most.

Any time I've tried to use a coupon in a price match I've been denied.
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TacoMakerSkys Platinum Sparx Gems: 5652
#53 Posted: 02:14:34 27/06/2013
Planning to try this later, I'll be preordering the WiiU/3DS Version just for the coupon, and buying a WiiU version and a 3DS Version (3DS will be sealed for collection)
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TheGooch Blue Sparx Gems: 709
#54 Posted: 02:29:14 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Make sure that you present the price match first, then present the preorder card followed by the McD coupon. If things aren't processed in that order it might not work in the system.
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tigerdr Yellow Sparx Gems: 1976
#55 Posted: 02:31:42 27/06/2013
Quote: TheGooch
Quote: Hexblazer
There was a show once on tv that i watch were a family use so many grocery coupons and there groceries was worth like $500 and they only had to pay $5 due to coupons.


Exactly! Why didn't the police arrest those fools on the spot? I will tell you why! IT IS LEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I even saw an episode where the manager even helped the lady push her carts out to her minivan. smilie


What makes it legal is they are using coupons and the stores are getting money back from it. What you are doing is again taking two similar things of promotion and trying to combine them, nothing short of exploiting a store. Look up their policies, many including target and walmart do not allow you to use two promotions on a single item. Using coupons is ok because the business in question when you use them gets the money, promotions they do not. The reason for example why you are getting the 30 bucks off giants because they have you on the hook for another sale, a compromise on their end to get 75 plus tax for the next installment, you know how promotions work? Usually there is some sort of catch.


Quote: TheGooch
Are we really going down this path again tigerdr? You show me proof that a single person has gotten fired over this and I will stand on the tallest hill in my crappy little town and yell at the top of my lungs that I am the biggest fraud ever to grace this planet. Why am I or anyone else on these forums that have taken part in this deal a fraud and others that go to a grocery store with a binder full a coupons, take advantage of sale prices and double coupon policies to get their 7 carts of groceries down from an original asking price of $832 down to $2.47? Those people are called Extreme Couponers, they have a show on TV all to themselves, they are celebrities! And we are reduced to thieves by holier-than-thou, self appointed, forum police. At ease soldiers! Everything is going to be alright!


From what I just posted, a coupon is usually from a manufacturer and as I stated in other posts is the same as cash as long as it is not expired. A retailer from any chain that the coupon is legally given to send it back to the company it came from and be reimbursed so they never lost money on it. The reason you see people happily able to push these people's carts full of groceries at such a cheap price because they are still getting paid for it.

You want to explain to me how Target makes money on 1. Price matching Toys R Us and then 2. taking another 30 bucks off of it from another promotion? The answer is they don't. This part you don't understand.

You're trying to compare two different things to justify what you are doing. You're not the first to come on here and probably won't be the last with some type of trick when it comes to these things but overall it draws forth ethics to actually implement it. I mean it's easy to get excited that you "found" a way to get a cheap pack but logically speaking it doesn't seem feasible because of all the rules and you really are ripping off the store in doing so. It'll be all right when people stop suggesting such things that are a real stretch to the average person. Why not put yourself in the retailer's position? I bet if you had to, I don't think you would be the willing person to honor your tactic.
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lady_valdyme Blue Sparx Gems: 547
#56 Posted: 02:50:24 27/06/2013
Im not taking any sides in the discussion here, I just have a question to ask concerning the matter. If the coupon clearly states that it may not be combined with any other offer, and the associate or manager does not take the time to read the coupon to verify this information, would it not be the retailers own fault for not catching the "trick" in the act and honoring the customers request, thus causing the company to lose money? I worked as an assistant manager at a music store and whenever a customer brought me a coupon, I would read it every time just to make sure my transaction was legit and I could not get flagged for marking items down illegally. Also, shouldn't a manager know that it is store policy to not combine offers like a pre-order and a price-match with a coupon? If a manager approves the transaction and the customer walks away with a 70 dollar item for a buck and a half, why is the customer being crucified?
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#57 Posted: 03:00:18 27/06/2013
Quote: lady_valdyme
Im not taking any sides in the discussion here, I just have a question to ask concerning the matter. If the coupon clearly states that it may not be combined with any other offer, and the associate or manager does not take the time to read the coupon to verify this information, would it not be the retailers own fault for not catching the "trick" in the act and honoring the customers request, thus causing the company to lose money? I worked as an assistant manager at a music store and whenever a customer brought me a coupon, I would read it every time just to make sure my transaction was legit and I could not get flagged for marking items down illegally. Also, shouldn't a manager know that it is store policy to not combine offers like a pre-order and a price-match with a coupon? If a manager approves the transaction and the customer walks away with a 70 dollar item for a buck and a half, why is the customer being crucified?


Believe it or not but most stores like Target and Walmart have you log into what register you are using as even other retailers have this from what I have seen. At times you even see the name of the associate on your receipt of who rung you out. I'm pretty sure it's easy to track that order because it's now in the system after being completed, just as easily it is for someone to get a refund or an exchange of the item.

The beef with this is if someone just flat out walks to an associate simply to do this as most are well known to the store they work for's policies and if they don't get a manager on this type of situation they are liable for termination on store loss of profit. It's more of an avocation of using something like this to get something for that cheap. As in actually exploiting or trying to a loophole in either a store's policy for promotions or if you can get an employee to look the other way on it. You know illegal. If a manager says it is ok then there's not much else to be said on it. It's just that lower level it is more like theft of the item.

I actually walked into target this morning and asked a few associates and even discussed the issue with a manager and they even said it's one or the other, they do not take both promotions.

The last type of attention you don't need to draw to the forums is such type of tips so approaching things like this is almost extreme caution because the economy is what it is. No store is going to just give anyone a game for 1.50. You want to report a good sale or tip? It should be comfortably at one that doesn't draw you to atleast take a moment to think "you know maybe this isn't exactly a good idea."
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lady_valdyme Blue Sparx Gems: 547
#58 Posted: 03:09:12 27/06/2013
Quote: tigerdr

Believe it or not but most stores like Target and Walmart have you log into what register you are using as even other retailers have this from what I have seen. At times you even see the name of the associate on your receipt of who rung you out. I'm pretty sure it's easy to track that order because it's now in the system after being completed, just as easily it is for someone to get a refund or an exchange of the item.

The beef with this is if someone just flat out walks to an associate simply to do this as most are well known to the store they work for's policies and if they don't get a manager on this type of situation they are liable for termination on store loss of profit. It's more of an avocation of using something like this to get something for that cheap. As in actually exploiting or trying to a loophole in either a store's policy for promotions or if you can get an employee to look the other way on it. You know illegal. If a manager says it is ok then there's not much else to be said on it. It's just that lower level it is more like theft of the item.

The last type of attention you don't need to draw to the forums is such type of tips so approaching things like this is almost extreme caution because the economy is what it is. No store is going to just give anyone a game for 1.50. You want to report a good sale or tip? It should be comfortably at one that doesn't draw you to atleast take a moment to think "you know maybe this isn't exactly a good idea."



Oh believe me, I know that most if not all cashiers or otherwise have a specific number that they use to log into a register, thus tying them to the transaction. I had to sign into my register all the time, and printed receipts with my name on them so the company could track my every move. I've seen associates get fired for changing prices, handing out discounts illegally, basically doing something they know they're not supposed to be doing.

I guess I would just hope that an associate would have enough sense to check with their manager before a transaction like that was fully processed just to make sure what they were doing was okay. But you bring up a good point with the economy being what it is, which is a debate for another place and time. That being said, I'm not surprised people are trying to get an expensive video game for pocket change. If they can figure it out, management gives them the okay to go through with the transaction, I just don't see the problem. Stealing is wrong, yes, I am certainly not denying that. However, I don't think that the above actions would constitute as fraud or theft on the part of the consumer. That also being said, associates should be told to always double check with their higher-ups, if for no other reason but to cover their own rears.

Edit: In short, I just don't think it fair to be condescending to the consumer when management is also at fault for allowing the transaction to happen, if it is "illegal." Both should be equally reprimanded.
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TheGooch Blue Sparx Gems: 709
#59 Posted: 03:21:47 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
For one the coupon doesn't state that it cannot be used with any other promotion. Here is the link to the coupon right off McDonalds website http://www.happymeal.com/en_US...oupon_Final.pdf. Tell me this Monsieur tigerdr, how do stores that double manufacturers coupons make money? They do not get that part of the "coupon" back in any way. If anyone actually attempted this deal they would know that a manager needs to override the register to price match every time. A manager is always present with any price match transaction. And as far as any heat I am getting from letting people know about this deal, I could care less. If you want to hate me go right ahead. It is mostly your repeated posts that are clogging up this thread with unnecessary garbage. I have actually gotten PM's from people thanking me for letting them know about it. Finally, don't you think with today's technology that Targets super computers would put up on such a horrid inconsistency in their profits for the day from everyone taking advantage of this deal that it would be quickly squashed from every happening again? One more time here for all the haters out there:

1. Price match to $39.99
2. Pre-order Swap-Force for a dollar and get "$30 savings" on Giants Starter pack. *Note: this is listed as a "savings" and not as a "get Giants for $39.99" deal.
3. Use McDonalds coupon for $10 off which is still valid until 06/30/12.

Continue your hate if you must but you are only hurting yourself.

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#60 Posted: 03:22:16 27/06/2013
Quote: lady_valdyme



Oh believe me, I know that most if not all cashiers or otherwise have a specific number that they use to log into a register, thus tying them to the transaction. I had to sign into my register all the time, and printed receipts with my name on them so the company could track my every move. I've seen associates get fired for changing prices, handing out discounts illegally, basically doing something they know they're not supposed to be doing.

I guess I would just hope that an associate would have enough sense to check with their manager before a transaction like that was fully processed just to make sure what they were doing was okay. But you bring up a good point with the economy being what it is, which is a debate for another place and time. That being said, I'm not surprised people are trying to get an expensive video game for pocket change. If they can figure it out, management gives them the okay to go through with the transaction, I just don't see the problem. Stealing is wrong, yes, I am certainly not denying that. However, I don't think that the above actions would constitute as fraud or theft on the part of the consumer. That also being said, associates should be told to always double check with their higher-ups, if for no other reason but to cover their own rears.

Edit: In short, I just don't think it fair to be condescending to the consumer when management is also at fault for allowing the transaction to happen, if it is "illegal." Both should be equally reprimanded.


As any associate for retailer knows you have to cover your own butt on everything you do because it's so easy to get fired. A BIG one is the register because stores check their takes to the inventory so they can find when someone sold something for well below the retail price.

Though that is what feels like fraud or theft to me. Logically speaking, you came to target for the preorder deal, isn't it plain greedy in asking for also a price match? Wouldn't you be better off going to Toys R Us and seeing if they would price match the Target 30 off deal instead? I don't think it would work that way either as any associate there would look at you funny and tell you to move along. Most if any would already see the lower price if done either way and wouldn't honor or that or take the lower of the two. A business is there to make money and how many treat their employees, taking a loss of that magnitude on one item - 50 bucks does mean a lot to that local store. In fact, there have been cases of that depending on the frequency or the value of loss the employee can lose their job, it's not opinion it is fact.

I do agree on the fact if management allows it because then it's the more higher up call and it is out of the hands of the consumer or associate's fault. It was their discretion and the higher ups make the rules of that store and define the policies, control things, etc.
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#61 Posted: 03:27:46 27/06/2013
Quote: TheGooch
For one the coupon doesn't state that it cannot be used with any other promotion. Here is the link to the coupon right off McDonalds website http://www.happymeal.com/en_US...oupon_Final.pdf. Tell me this Monsieur tigerdr, how do stores that double manufacturers coupons make money? They do not get that part of the "coupon" back in any way. If anyone actually attempted this deal they would know that a manager needs to override the register to price match every time. A manager is always present with any price match transaction. And as far as any heat I am getting from letting people know about this deal, I could care less. If you want to hate me go right ahead. It is mostly your repeated posts that are clogging up this thread with unnecessary garbage. I have actually gotten PM's from people thanking me for letting them know about it. Finally, don't you think with today's technology that Targets super computers would put up on such a horrid inconsistency in their profits for the day from everyone taking advantage of this deal that it would be quickly squashed from every happening again? One more time here for all the haters out there:

1. Price match to $39.99
2. Pre-order Swap-Force for a dollar and get "$30 savings" on Giants Starter pack. *Note: this is listed as a "savings" and not as a "get Giants for $39.99" deal.
3. Use McDonalds coupon for $10 off which is still valid until 06/30/12.

Continue your hate if you must but you are only hurting yourself.

The official DarkSpyro Deal Maker has spoken!


You come on the forums to show off a "deal" which I doubt you have had any experience with working retail to know how it does actually go against store policies in how 1 and 2 break each other. I'm not hating, but when you put out "advice" that in turn has a higher chance of not working because you're hoping for a loophole for it to work is not a sound deal. It's not clutter to your posting if it's sound proof of fact of why it wouldn't work. It has also proven not to work for the countless times it's been said why it wouldn't and reasonably why.

You're not an "official" deal maker just an exploiter smilie
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#62 Posted: 03:43:14 27/06/2013
My opinion doesn't matter any more than anyone else on the subject, but...

I don't believe that this deal is illegal as anyone is defining it.

If the store, through their official representative, accepts the price match/promotion/coupon combo, knowing what they're doing - then I see no possible crime being committed.

This is different from other situations where the so-called "customer" misrepresents the facts to gain something (also known as "theft by deception" or "fraud"). If you're fully making your case ("I want to price match, I want to pre-order, I want to use this coupon."), then I don't see how it would be illegal at all.

Morally questionable, perhaps. But that's a whole different ball park than legal vs. illegal.
TheGooch Blue Sparx Gems: 709
#63 Posted: 03:57:58 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: tigerdr
Quote: TheGooch
For one the coupon doesn't state that it cannot be used with any other promotion. Here is the link to the coupon right off McDonalds website http://www.happymeal.com/en_US...oupon_Final.pdf. Tell me this Monsieur tigerdr, how do stores that double manufacturers coupons make money? They do not get that part of the "coupon" back in any way. If anyone actually attempted this deal they would know that a manager needs to override the register to price match every time. A manager is always present with any price match transaction. And as far as any heat I am getting from letting people know about this deal, I could care less. If you want to hate me go right ahead. It is mostly your repeated posts that are clogging up this thread with unnecessary garbage. I have actually gotten PM's from people thanking me for letting them know about it. Finally, don't you think with today's technology that Targets super computers would put up on such a horrid inconsistency in their profits for the day from everyone taking advantage of this deal that it would be quickly squashed from every happening again? One more time here for all the haters out there:

1. Price match to $39.99
2. Pre-order Swap-Force for a dollar and get "$30 savings" on Giants Starter pack. *Note: this is listed as a "savings" and not as a "get Giants for $39.99" deal.
3. Use McDonalds coupon for $10 off which is still valid until 06/30/12.

Continue your hate if you must but you are only hurting yourself.

The official DarkSpyro Deal Maker has spoken!


You come on the forums to show off a "deal" which I doubt you have had any experience with working retail to know how it does actually go against store policies in how 1 and 2 break each other. I'm not hating, but when you put out "advice" that in turn has a higher chance of not working because you're hoping for a loophole for it to work is not a sound deal. It's not clutter to your posting if it's sound proof of fact of why it wouldn't work. It has also proven not to work for the countless times it's been said why it wouldn't and reasonably why.

You're not an "official" deal maker just an exploiter smilie


Other people on this forum have verified in fact the deal does work. As far as people stating how the deal didn't work for them it is simply a case of an associate telling them something rather than the associate actually attempting to put the transaction through the system. Look, I am not saying this isn't a YMMV situation, some managers may choose to accept it while others may not. It doesn't make it any less valid for those people that have found success in it. tigerdr, a line allows progress a circle does not. Stop repeating your tired argument which in turn makes me repeat my position. Let's progress in these forums together.

Mr. tigerdr, you are not a poster on a Skylanders website, you are a Deal Saboteur.
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TheGooch Blue Sparx Gems: 709
#64 Posted: 04:27:38 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: UncleBob
My opinion doesn't matter any more than anyone else on the subject, but...

I don't believe that this deal is illegal as anyone is defining it.

If the store, through their official representative, accepts the price match/promotion/coupon combo, knowing what they're doing - then I see no possible crime being committed.

This is different from other situations where the so-called "customer" misrepresents the facts to gain something (also known as "theft by deception" or "fraud"). If you're fully making your case ("I want to price match, I want to pre-order, I want to use this coupon."), then I don't see how it would be illegal at all.

Morally questionable, perhaps. But that's a whole different ball park than legal vs. illegal.


UncleBob, I totally agree with what you are saying. Morally questionable? I don't think so. Perhaps the guy that bought six of them. You know what his intentions were with Uncle Craig. When information is provided even with the best intentions unfortunately there will always be somebody who wants to see how far they can push something. That is the way our society works. Can you imagine if McDonalds stopped selling medium and large fry sizes? Only small is available for you Mr. Customer! Now I am pissed! I demand more!
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#65 Posted: 04:36:42 27/06/2013
Quote: TheGooch
Morally questionable? I don't think so.


Morals vary from person to person. You can't really make that decision for everyone.
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#66 Posted: 08:43:06 27/06/2013
Just throwing in my two cents. From the way I understand it, besides the price match, everything else is automatically done by the computer. There should have been restrictions on at least one of these offers but it seems there aren't. I believe the card has no wording and I saw the little red cardboard tag on the card today at Target while shopping and there was no fine print at the bottom saying that the 30$ off from preordering is unable to be combined with another offer. If it was. It's possible that you would have to pick between the price match and the preorder 30$ off, each price would bring it to 39.99. But as it sounds, there are no restrictions in place. Also, manufacturer's coupons are generally accepted in combination with other offers.

While I do agree this is just a moral issue, I just wanted to say that I doubt anyone will get fired over doing this. Target employees don't have the right to deny you a discount or a couponed deduction as far as I know. The people who are saying it didn't work for them most likely told the employee their plan and asked if it would work, and were told no because by all means it normally wouldn't. Again, it sounds that the computer is automatically applying the discount for the preorder as soon as the card is scanned, and an employee can't be blamed for something the computer does on it's own. It would also be unlikely that they would deny you use of a manufacturer's coupon. I also am guessing that Target probably knows that people are doing this - they either are letting it slide or just haven't applied exclusivity to the preorder discount yet. I am pretty sure that if the manager saw it happen they'd let it slide and then give the employees instruction not to do it aain, but even that might be hard for them.

It's also worth noting that Target may be letting this go just so they can get the packs off their shelves. I don't think they are looking forward to Disney Infinity bundles, figures, and accessories plaguing their shelf space, with Swap Force coming soon after.

TLDR: It's a moral thing. If you can live with yourself for doing it, I don't think you will have any problem. I'd really urge that people don't need another copy of the game they already have - I'd argue that people who are purchasing Giants for the first time should feel less shady. I know people want to get the 3DS version for Punch Pop Fizz but I'm fairly certain if you waited for Black Friday you could probably snag a sweet deal without feeling immoral.
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#67 Posted: 10:10:39 27/06/2013
Imma have to take tigerdr's side with this. The coupon thing is fine, there is no issue with this. There are no restrictions on the coupon itself and there is only one being applied per item as per target policy. The company gets reimbursed that money.

The issue comes in with the price match being combined with targets instore promotion. Company policy is to either use the price match or the existing promotion and not both. The fact that has been over looked is that just because the register can do something doesnt mean it should it's true that the price match needs *ahem* "management approval" to go through but that is generally all they are called over for and leave right away after making sure the price was adjusted to the competitors price. And really it isnt the manager (we call them the LOD = leader on duty) who has to approve it, it can be any team lead such as a GSTL or anyone with a leadership position. It really does depend on how high up you go. I can see GSTL's doing this on rare occasions and maybe LOD's on even rarer occasions but the fact of the matter is that it is still against store policy. There may be other factors that influenced the team lead's descion if they knew entirly what was going on such as how their day has gone, how busy the store is, etc. Higher ups can get reprimanded for it and lower level team members can in fact lose their job.

it is up to each worker at guest service to recognize when it is and isnt against policy. To be completely honest it really doesn't take a lot to get trained at the service desk where price matches are supposed to occur. I could even do it, which is saying a lot cause a few of my team leads dont like me. If i wear the team member i would have the LOD present for the entire transaction just so that my butt was covered from start to finish as i have in the past with sketchy transactions or things i am unsure about.

In short it is against company policy and i am hoping for the sake of other guest service workers that they realize they run a risk of getting penalized for it.
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#68 Posted: 11:25:43 27/06/2013
TheGooch couldn't be more right. The store is choosing to run the $30 promotion, and they SHOULD price match if that's their policy. You should get both discounts, and it shouldn't even be a question. In no way is it fraud.

Personally, I wouldn't make the purchase if the store wouldn't give me both discounts.
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#69 Posted: 11:33:10 27/06/2013
I can confirm I did this deal on tuesday. got a 3ds starter kit for .99
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TheGooch Blue Sparx Gems: 709
#70 Posted: 13:07:12 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Having the pre-order discount listed as being "save $30 off Skylanders Giants" is what makes this whole deal possible. It is why the price match doesn't interfere with what Target is offering. Target is a huge company, they have lawyers that look though their advertisement 20 times before they are given the go ahead to print. Point is, they know what they are doing. It is all in the wording of the sale. Sure, sometimes there are print errors but this certainly isn't the case for this particular instance. Target knows their price matching policy (I would hope) so in order for a company to prevent something like this from occurring all they would have to do is list the sale with an exact price ($39.99) rather than listing it as $30 off. Jezuz, I feel like I have wrote this same post 50 times now. Can I answer any more questions or concerns?

A big shout out to Himewad and lady_valdyme for their enlightened views on this matter. And Mosetter27 for yet another deal confirmation....you will need to update your avatar now to Punch Pop Fizz! smilie
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#71 Posted: 13:14:17 27/06/2013
it's like you completely overlooked the post from the only guy in this topic who actually works there......
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#72 Posted: 13:31:17 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: ace
it's like you completely overlooked the post from the only guy in this topic who actually works there......


Oh I read your post, I just don't agree with that you are saying. I think at this point the healthiest thing for us to do is to agree to disagree. I am not saying that anything you are posting is wrong it is just that the the open wording in Targets advertisement allows for this deal to be valid.
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#73 Posted: 13:34:51 27/06/2013
Here's what people don't understand.

Each buying group is given so much money to spend on promotions and markdowns - company wide.

Originally, the buying group likely set aside $X to spend on this $30 off promo. They estimated the number of Starter Packs they'd sell through this, multiplied that by 30, padded the number a bit, then determined that this promo was going to cost them $X - and they took that money out of their budget.

Through this glitch/loophole/deal/whatever you want to call it, the video game buying group is going to end up spending a LOT more of their budget than they had anticipated. Depending on how much this glitch/loophole/deal/whatever is used, someone in the buying group could be reprimanded for this. When you're making these kinds of decisions, your entire job rides on being close enough to perfect in your estimates.

Beyond that, and again, it depends how much this glitch/loophole/deal/whatever is used, but the video game buying group's promo/markdown budget could be blown away buy folks using this. Translation: Less video game deals at Target until the next budget drops.
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#74 Posted: 13:57:29 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: UncleBob
Here's what people don't understand.

Each buying group is given so much money to spend on promotions and markdowns - company wide.

Originally, the buying group likely set aside $X to spend on this $30 off promo. They estimated the number of Starter Packs they'd sell through this, multiplied that by 30, padded the number a bit, then determined that this promo was going to cost them $X - and they took that money out of their budget.

Through this glitch/loophole/deal/whatever you want to call it, the video game buying group is going to end up spending a LOT more of their budget than they had anticipated. Depending on how much this glitch/loophole/deal/whatever is used, someone in the buying group could be reprimanded for this. When you're making these kinds of decisions, your entire job rides on being close enough to perfect in your estimates.

Beyond that, and again, it depends how much this glitch/loophole/deal/whatever is used, but the video game buying group's promo/markdown budget could be blown away buy folks using this. Translation: Less video game deals at Target until the next budget drops.


Through this logic Unclebob, wouldn't there also be a budget set aside by the buying group to make up the difference for price matches as well? Price matches have to be figured into budgets in some way so in theory this deal would just be dipping in to two separate budget pots. I don't work in retail so I don't know all of the ins and outs like it sounds like you might but I think I am making a valid point. How does Target make any profit on selling any of their clearance games? I have seen games on clearance before for $2. If the margin of profit for selling games is so small why not just give them away or let the coworkers use them as drink coasters in the employee lounge?
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#75 Posted: 14:05:36 27/06/2013
Simply - they don't make a profit on clearance games. But they budget for those markdowns before they take them.

Imagine "Okay, so it looks like we have 7,492 copies of CrappyGameX company wide. It's currently $19.99 and we haven't sold a copy in three months. So, let's drop it to $9.99 to get it out of stores. That's a $10 drop for 7,492 copies, so that's $74,920 in markdowns I need to help move this product to make room for stuff that will actually sell."

When you see stuff on clearance, it isn't going on clearance to make a profit - it's going on clearance to 'clear' it out of the store to make room for more profitable merchandise.

And yes, part of their markdown/promotional budget includes an allowance for markdowns taken via price matching. It's one big pot of markdown dollars. In MOST cases, price matching isn't a huge chunk of that budget, because, honestly, the prices are typically pretty similar. If you look at the actual deals being offered by TRU and Target here, *both* stores have the game at $30 off the regular price. Walmart recently dropped the Starter Packs down to $20 off the regular price. Unless a retailer just does some stupid crazy promotion, price matching is really a negligible part of the budget.
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#76 Posted: 14:50:19 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
I hear, and understand everything that you are saying but had the ad been worded differently this whole discussion would have never been initiated. I find it so hard to believe that Target wouldn't have considered this as an issue prior to the release of their sale. Targets computer systems are light years beyond that of Wal-mart. If you don't have a receipt for an item they can search their records by your check account#, debit or credit card and/or Red Card within a matter of seconds to see if an item was in fact bought there. I find it so hard to believe if they really didn't want things like this from occurring that they couldn't program their systems to simply not allow multiple discounts from being implemented.
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#77 Posted: 15:01:38 27/06/2013
People make mistakes. Period. It happens.

The way I see it, Target Price Matches - not 'deal matches'. The intent behind Target's policy is that you can get the same item at Target for the same price you can get it elsewhere. This is why Target doesn't match deals like buy one, get one free where the price isn't shown.

What is being done here is NOT getting the same item for the same price you can get it elsewhere. Personally, I do not believe this is the intent of Target's price matching policy because, simply, you're not matching the price.
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#78 Posted: 15:29:41 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: UncleBob
People make mistakes. Period. It happens.

The way I see it, Target Price Matches - not 'deal matches'. The intent behind Target's policy is that you can get the same item at Target for the same price you can get it elsewhere. This is why Target doesn't match deals like buy one, get one free where the price isn't shown.

What is being done here is NOT getting the same item for the same price you can get it elsewhere. Personally, I do not believe this is the intent of Target's price matching policy because, simply, you're not matching the price.


I am still stuck on the $30 off not being equal to the price match not being part of the McD coupon idea. I know that I am not going to sway your thoughts otherwise so I will digress.
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#79 Posted: 16:42:57 27/06/2013
I worked in retail management for 4 years while I was in college. There are very few reasons we ever fired employees. It is really hard to get and keep people at the low wages they pay. Unless an employee is stealing, not coming to work, drinking on the job , etc. They are NOT going to get fired.
Also FYI I called the Target Corporate office when my Target said no on the stacking. The lady I talked to said it is at the discretion of each manager but technically it is NOT stacking because the 39.99 is a price match. The additional $30 is to preorder an additional item. If you look at the TRU ad they are giving away over $20 worth of stuff with the pre-order in addition to the low price on the game. After talking to corporate they ended up giving me the game for .99. Believe me with the markup Target has on items the extra 30 isn't going to hurt them!
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#80 Posted: 16:52:13 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: jpsparkles
I worked in retail management for 4 years while I was in college. There are very few reasons we ever fired employees. It is really hard to get and keep people at the low wages they pay. Unless an employee is stealing, not coming to work, drinking on the job , etc. They are NOT going to get fired.
Also FYI I called the Target Corporate office when my Target said no on the stacking. The lady I talked to said it is at the discretion of each manager but technically it is NOT stacking because the 39.99 is a price match. The additional $30 is to preorder an additional item. If you look at the TRU ad they are giving away over $20 worth of stuff with the pre-order in addition to the low price on the game. After talking to corporate they ended up giving me the game for .99. Believe me with the markup Target has on items the extra 30 isn't going to hurt them!



Can the doubters be silenced now? Can we all rejoice together in this amazing Skylanders community that we share and praise this spectacular deal that has graced our presence? I believe that songs will be made by future generations to honor this abundant fortune. Hell, I am not even going to wait for others to do it. I will start immediately to pen a Skylanders Deal Theme Song. Stay Tuned!
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#81 Posted: 16:55:03 27/06/2013
So apparently Target must be the only store that "requires a manager for every price match" because I've price matched at Wal-mart, TRU, and Best Buy multiple times and no manager was ever present.
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#82 Posted: 17:01:33 27/06/2013
Another reason you can't get an employee in trouble. Because the price match difference is over $10 a manager must come to the register to approve the transaction. Target registers are set up so an employee can't do anything wrong without serious manipulation on their part. And to the people actually suggesting this is fraud or illegal ... The fact that the register allows the price match, the $30 off , and the coupon means it is obviously not illegal. If you try to use two of the 10 coupons it will not allow it because that DOES go against the store policy of 1 store coupon and 1 regular coupon per item.
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#83 Posted: 17:03:36 27/06/2013
All retail stores require management approval if the difference is over a certain amount.
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#84 Posted: 17:07:40 27/06/2013
That statement is not true.
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#85 Posted: 17:24:00 27/06/2013
FYI---wasn't agreeing or supporting this. I asked a friends son who works there about it out of curiosity and answered a question about a name of a show. I'm all for good deals--for sure--but I don't want to cause problems for people at there jobs.
That is just my personal opinion.
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#86 Posted: 17:29:56 27/06/2013
Tried to do this deal with 3 Starter Packs, they autodenied saying I would be getting a huge deal, tried a Super Target 20 minutes away, and walked out with the Wii U starter pack.
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#87 Posted: 18:31:09 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Skylanders Sale Song

Dreams like this don't come around often,
even the coldest of hearts would certainly soften,
at the most amazing deal that came out this week,
it made me breathless, excited and I could barely speak.

A Skylander Giants starter pack,
could be had by all who currently lack,
At 99 cents with a pre-order of Swap-Force,
at your friendly neighborhood Target of course!

Without hesitation I purchased my bundle,
my deal making abilities made the manager humble
Let us all be joyous on this momentous day,
as your Punch Pop Fizz is ready to play!

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#88 Posted: 20:29:59 27/06/2013
The Target promotion doesn't say $30 off a full price starter kit. It says $30 off a starter kit. Case closed.

The McDonalds coupon is just gravy.
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#89 Posted: 20:37:55 27/06/2013
My Target in NE FL. did it in the electronics dept., was not a manager, no problem at all. I said "can you price match this TRUS ad and also use this $30 off pre-order deal....together?" He said "let's see", scan type type.....no problem, then he said "looks like you're getting this baby for $11.75" and smiled. I said "sweet", swiped my card and went on my merry way. I don't even feel a little bit guilty, this guy has been there for the three years I've been going to this Target down the street from my house. He knows what he's doing, and he knew what he was doing, and it was completely legit. If TRUS can profit from a $39.99 starter pack, so can Target, in addition Target will be reimbursed for the pre-order promo from Activision so to all of those who chose not to take advantage of this because of some moral issue......put your false sense of moralism on your portal and see if a punch Pop-Fizz shows up on the screen.
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#90 Posted: 20:51:10 27/06/2013
Hmmm- I was told that all price matches have to be done at customer service per corporate policy---
Weird
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#91 Posted: 21:27:13 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: shelly9871
Hmmm- I was told that all price matches have to be done at customer service per corporate policy---
Weird


That was my impression too so I just took everything up there to check out. The rep at the front desk said she couldn't adjust that much without a managers approval. The other day I found 3 Spyro's Adventure Starter packs on clearance for $13. The store is certainly trying to make room for all the new stuff coming out. I wonder if the Disney game will push out any of the Skylanders shelf space? The electronics department is only so big.
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#92 Posted: 21:56:58 27/06/2013
When and how did people get a McDonalds Skylanders coupon? I didn't know that they were doing a promotion like that.
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#93 Posted: 22:00:53 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
It came in the Happy Meals during the Skylanders toy run they did or you could just print it off their website without having to buy their toxic food.
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#94 Posted: 22:01:13 27/06/2013
It was a month or so ago at McDonalds. They were inside the happy meal toy wrapper. They expire 6/30 and they were for $10 off a giants starter pack.
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#95 Posted: 22:38:17 27/06/2013
They did Skylanders Happy Meals!? Bummer, I missed it and had no clue about it; they sure didn't advertise it at all in my area and I didn't see anything on the forums about it, but I was gone for a few months, so that's probably why. Where there Skylander figures in the Meals?
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#96 Posted: 23:01:13 27/06/2013 | Topic Creator
Yeah, we got Ignitor in my Son's meal. They toys were kinda horrible but they did have a Kaos figure I think.
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#97 Posted: 00:22:40 28/06/2013
They went fast OpalOsprey---now people are selling them on eBay and I saw them on ToyWiz...but I guess people will sell anything---as long as there are buyers
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#98 Posted: 02:14:18 28/06/2013
^Not touching that McGarbage...
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#99 Posted: 02:16:06 28/06/2013
They're not bad once painted.
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#100 Posted: 03:10:50 28/06/2013
Something which should be pointed out which hasn't: The figures from McDonald's weren't REAL Skylanders, they were just plastic toys based on Skylanders. They all had buttons to make them do something. Some (like Spyro and Gill Grunt) has projectiles, the button would fire them. Some moved, like Ignitor would swing his sword. There was ONE giant, Tree Rex, the button would light up the gem on his wrist. Kaos would switch faces between mad and happy. I mainly just wanted Kaos since there isn't a real figure of him, LOL!
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