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Does anyone know how to beat Double Trouble's challenge (the don't break the paintings one) with Zook without using magic items?

Zook was one of the toughest characters for us to finish this one with.
Do not upgrade his bazooka!
we did every speed challenge we could then lots of practice with shooting to minimize the damage. It took a few tries (like 8) but we managed.

You can also try getting to his barrier path (which involves upgrading the bazooka :-/ ) and putting up pointy cacti near all the enemies to cut down on how much shooting you need to do.

Quote: DragonsDream

Zook was one of the toughest characters for us to finish this one with.
Do not upgrade his bazooka!
we did every speed challenge we could then lots of practice with shooting to minimize the damage. It took a few tries (like 8) but we managed.

You can also try getting to his barrier path (which involves upgrading the bazooka :-/ ) and putting up pointy cacti near all the enemies to cut down on how much shooting you need to do.

I did it this way, also - if you stand a short distance from & facing the enemy you can sprout cacti directly underneath them.

i dont have zook

Anyone know how to beat this challenge with Sprocket. Seriously it's practically impossible.

Sprocket is easy, her wrench attack is accurate enough to kill trolls and not hit anything. Just don't mess about with turrets/tanks etc

yeah, Sprocket just needs speed and don't upgrade the wrench right away until after you do this one.

That said, I did do this one with the tank just because the tanks are so damn fun - but that really requires maxed out speed since you'll need 3 or 4 tanks troughout the run and they take time to build and are slower than her walking speed

I think I did this with Zook WITHOUT magic items and after upgrading him. Though I do use magic items when a character is too strong for this challenge, so it's possible. If I did indeed complete it, the key is watching your angles. I go right up to the incriminating troll (i.e. the troll they ALWAYS put near the painting, the others aren't too hard) in a way that points me away from the painting, if possible putting Zook in between the painting and the troll. Most especially for what I think is the second or third to last painting, the one in a hallway on the upper-right edge. The troll is SO close to the painting. I wedge in between the painting and the troll and fire pointing down the hall. I also think I had some success with the mushroom mortars. At least you don't have trouble with shrapnel with them.

Too bad only Giants can get the Time Boosts on this one, they'd be really useful for guys like Zook.

PLEASE tell me you're trying this without magic items because you simply don't HAVE them, right? Not because of some misguided ideals where it feels like cheating or something? Because it's not like you're tricking the game into letting you use magic items. They work, it's designed to allow them to work. If you have them, feel free to use them. And think of it this way: So many attacks, and several characters, are designed to WIPE OUT, they're not designed to be delicate, as it required by this challenge. So designing this challenge this way is like a betrayal of the game design otherwise, it's not really fair that being MORE powerful works against you now. More powerful should be and usually is better.

^ I have magic items and I actually always use the Anvil Rain on this challenge I'm just wondering if it's possible with Zook with none.

Keep in mind that you can destroy one painting without failing the challenge. Use that to your advantage. Also, trolls will often follow you away from danger zones if you attract their attention; this can be used to drag them away from precarious spots where destroying a painting is likely.

Those darn Grenade Generals stay in one spot, though.

Zook and Eruptor are the ones I had the most trouble with doing this challenge. Like people said above, make sure to do the challenge before upgrading his bazooka. It took a few tries but I was finally able to do it.

Zook, Eruptor and Crusher were the ones I had most trouble with. Eruptor I had to upgrade to his lava barf and just make sure the rolling ball didn't roll into a painting. Crusher needed the cavelight blast as aiming the hammer was just too difficult here

Quote: DragonsDream

yeah, Sprocket just needs speed and don't upgrade the wrench right away until after you do this one.

That said, I did do this one with the tank just because the tanks are so damn fun - but that really requires maxed out speed since you'll need 3 or 4 tanks troughout the run and they take time to build and are slower than her walking speed

I played the challenge without any upgrades and only used her wrench. It hit vases and paintings when she was no where near. He hit range even goes behind her.

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Keep in mind that you can destroy one painting without failing the challenge. Use that to your advantage. Also, trolls will often follow you away from danger zones if you attract their attention; this can be used to drag them away from precarious spots where destroying a painting is likely.

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Those darn Grenade Generals stay in one spot, though.

Zagactly. ALL the ones in front of paintings are grenade guys who won't budge. Pretty sure this is on purpose.

And just did this with a Ninjini with no upgrades last night, caught one painting that was BEHIND her. That's a big swing! Ended up finding more success having her jump into her bottle, then explosively leave with a fair distance (JUST close enough to take out the grenade troll)