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X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1851 Posted: 13:24:59 29/01/2013 Lets say A. Not too powerful, but strong.

gillgrunt987 Diamond Sparx Gems: 7668	#1852 Posted: 15:13:01 30/01/2013 This topic has been less active recently. Just pointing it out. --- I can survive scalding hot coffee and being whipped for 24 hours a day. Digestive biscuits or riot.

DocCroc Yellow Sparx Gems: 1668

#1853 Posted: 16:07:41 30/01/2013

Quote: Skybagel

Last path gaiz! Up Close and Personal! Lets sort dis' baby!

Up Close and Personal is likely an A for the same reasons Rubble Master Crusher is. He's a bit cumbersome, but his health and armor keep him competitive. You'll mostly be doing melee attacks anyway, so his basic combo is still very effective. Bad Sushi isn't great damage wise, but it's still a good move to use on anyone who gets past his range to either see if they'll retreat or or try to come in close. In which case they're back in anchor range, or chomp range. Just remember that his movement speed is really slow using the attack, so it isn't good to use in a reactionary manner.

The belly flop is still unwieldy to rely on as an attack, but being able to chomp during a slide still has it uses. You'll mostly end up using his soul gem during belly flops anyway though since it requires less precision, so Anchors A Yay still benefits there. Like most A-tiers, UC&P has the potential to dip into S if used right, but he isn't foolproof. Spacial awareness is key to playing it effectively.

Quote: gillgrunt987

This topic has been less active recently. Just pointing it out.

Such is the weekday. Jobs, school, etc. Let's not forget that people still don't have the new guys yet either. It'll probably pick up again once more stores start getting Thumpback & Eye-Brawl, and the Scorpion Striker battle pack gets a wide release after next week.

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1854 Posted: 19:11:50 30/01/2013 The bite is his best move, regardless of path, and you'll want to use it as much as possible.

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx

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#1855 Posted: 20:14:34 30/01/2013

Quote: X-Treme

Quote: Guye17
Quote: LightSpyro13
What the hell? While I haven't played with him yet; I really can't imagine Thumpy annihilating Stump Smash, Shroom Boom (Paramushroom Promotion) or Zook unless their player stinks.

I agree. Thumpback is not going to beat them that easily, if at all. Especially Stump Smash on Nut Crafter.

Thumpback has a highly spammable combo for long range, an extremely damaging bite at close range, and a fast dash that GETS you in close range. He totally murders zook, as hos cactus does nothing against the anchor, and he is too slow and low damaging to kill thumps.

Tree rex is a decent competiter, winning 40% of the time, and stump smasj's acorns are completely ignored by tue anchor.

Even though I haven't played

yet, I don't believe you. I'd like you to prove it then, I still do not imagine Thumpy on either path beating the Life Guys (except Camo and Shroomboom) that easily; especially not Stump Smash or Stealth Elf.

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Fins, of fury!

EgoNaut Yellow Sparx Gems: 1730	#1856 Posted: 22:30:34 30/01/2013 \| Topic Creator Thumpback / Up Close and Personal placed in A Tier for now. May as well put him somewhere. --- S1: S2: S3:

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360

#1857 Posted: 01:16:42 31/01/2013

Quote: LightSpyro13

Quote: X-Treme
Quote: Guye17

I agree. Thumpback is not going to beat them that easily, if at all. Especially Stump Smash on Nut Crafter.

Thumpback has a highly spammable combo for long range, an extremely damaging bite at close range, and a fast dash that GETS you in close range. He totally murders zook, as hos cactus does nothing against the anchor, and he is too slow and low damaging to kill thumps.

Tree rex is a decent competiter, winning 40% of the time, and stump smasj's acorns are completely ignored by tue anchor.

Even though I haven't played yet, I don't believe you. I'd like you to prove it then, I still do not imagine Thumpy on either path beating the Life Guys (except Camo and Shroomboom) that easily; especially not Stump Smash or Stealth Elf.

stealth elf is his biggest weakness. he only wins 30-40% of the time. stump smash is out damaged by thumpback, long and short range.

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1858 Posted: 01:22:38 31/01/2013 ^ Still don't believe you, played with him today at Best Buy and bought him (and Eye Brawl). His Anchor may be strong and his belly slide may give him speed, but the anchor strikes VERY slowly and you can't control the belly slide at all. --- Fins, of fury!

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1859 Posted: 01:48:56 31/01/2013 the belly slide is no significant part of his offense, and the anchor may be slow, but it is not low damaging. a 270 dgree spin for 90 damage over the huge area his anchor covers is pretty insane, and the bite is beast.

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1860 Posted: 03:25:41 31/01/2013 Yes his Anchor is powerful, but he strikes it slowly. The bite attack is also kinda slow as well. Thumpy is awesome, but he's not good enough to deserve his own God tier. --- Fins, of fury!

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1861 Posted: 03:28:00 31/01/2013 The slowness doesnt matter, he can get in 324 dmg to amy medium/slow skylander that is in range of the anchor.

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx

Gems: 861

#1862 Posted: 03:36:08 31/01/2013

Yeah it does

, his anchor is strong but he racks damage slowly. 36, 36, 36, 36, or a combo (if you can land them) very slowly.

Stump Smash's acorns: 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24 rapid fire. His anchor strikes too slowly to pop them all, and even then he can only do 2 consecutive strikes (not counting combos) and then he goes back to Square 1 in his Melee chain.

He's great, but definitely not Godly. At least some people in S can beat him, some A tiers too like Tree Rex or Stealth Elf.

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Fins, of fury!

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1863 Posted: 03:46:41 31/01/2013 Noep, 36...36...90.....36...36...90.....36...36...90..........

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1864 Posted: 04:00:55 31/01/2013 ^ Is that Bias I hear? --- Fins, of fury!

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1865 Posted: 04:17:09 31/01/2013 Its truth. The AAX combo really deals the dmg.

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1866 Posted: 04:40:34 31/01/2013 Translation of what you've been saying this whole time: "Yes, I'm biased!" --- Fins, of fury!

Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038	#1867 Posted: 05:00:24 31/01/2013 I agree that does sound very biased. "Tree rex has a 40% chance of winning against Thumpback" What the hell?

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx

Gems: 861

#1868 Posted: 22:57:45 31/01/2013

And that's not all, even MORE Bias.

His personal tier list (in order)

S tier:

Thumpback anchors a yay
Eye brawl eye for an eye
Both s1 and s2 Double trouble channeler
S2 chop chop undead defender
S2 prism break prismancer
S2 Drill sergeant megadozer
S2 Ignitor SoTF
Swarm barberous avenger
S2 stump smash nut crafter
S2 flameslinger pyromancer
S1 whirlwind tempest dragon
Eye brawl eye brawler

A tier:

Voodood mrauder
Slam bam blizzard brawler
Thumpback up close and personal
Zook floral defender
Wham shell captain crustacean
S2 terrafin brawler
S2 terrafin sandhog
S2 stealth elf pook blade saint
S2 sonic boom medea griffin
Tree rex lumbering laserer
S1 drobot master blaster
Pop fizz mad scientist
Flashwing super spinner

B tier:

Pop fizz best of the beast
S1 bash granite dragon
Warnado eye of the storm
Shroomboom paramushroom promotion
Flashwing super shards
S1 and s2 double trouble conjurer
Tree rex treefolk charger
S2 stump smash smash and bash
Chill javelin path
S2 chop chop vampiric warrior
S2 prism break crystaleer
S2 drill sergeant battledozer
Crusher rock grinder

C tier:

Drobot clockwork dragon
S1 terrafin sandhog
S2 sonic boom siren griffin
S2 eruptor volcanor
Bouncer I beam supreme
Shroomboom barrier boost
Zook artilleryman
Stealth elf forest ninja
Crusher rubble master
Swarm wasp stormer
S1 gill grunt water weaver
S1 gill grunt harpooner
S1 whirlwind rainbow path
S2 eruptor magmantor
S1 bash pulver dragon
Chill frozen fury
Voodood elementalist

D tier

Cynder nether welder
S2 lightning rod lightning lord
Cynder shadowdancer
S1 chop chop vampiric warrior
Jet vac vac packeteer
S1 prism break crystaleer
S1 prism break prismancer

E tier:

Trigger happy moneybags
Jet vac bird blaster
Wind master warnado
Trigger happy golden frenzy
Wrecking ball super spinner
S2 lightning rod typhoon titan

F tier:

S1 eruptor magmantor
S1 spyro sheep burner
S1 lightning rod lightning lord
S1 wrecking ball total tongue
S1 lightning rod typhoon titan

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Fins, of fury!

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1869 Posted: 01:17:00 01/02/2013 Noep, prism break is bottom of S.

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1870 Posted: 01:20:14 01/02/2013 No it isn't Mr. Bias! I just copied and pasted what was there. --- Fins, of fury!

Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038	#1871 Posted: 01:30:12 01/02/2013 Lol, "Mr Bias"

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1872 Posted: 02:14:55 01/02/2013 ......

reshiramflame Green Sparx Gems: 200	#1873 Posted: 15:45:51 02/02/2013 S2 LotL Lightning Rod is actually fairly decent.. Too bad there's so many Fires in C.

Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038	#1874 Posted: 16:07:50 02/02/2013 I think he could definitely go to C or even B tier. I had a post way back that explained why.

Hazard335 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1435	#1875 Posted: 17:56:34 02/02/2013 I think Series 1 Undead Defender should move up a tier. even on Series 1 it seems Undead Defender is better then Vampiric Warrior, mainly for the stun, so they should at least be in the same tire together. has anyone done any testing at all on these Series 1 paths?

X-Treme Ripto Gems: 360	#1876 Posted: 18:12:08 02/02/2013 I have. The shield bash still does a mere 14 damage, but the released 75 dmg is pretty good. I'd say he needs to be in C, or even B.

Tashiji Yellow Sparx

Gems: 1453

#1877 Posted: 18:57:43 02/02/2013

Thumpback does stand a chance against Treefolk Charger depending on the arena and if Rex's elemental power has been capped, but Lumbering Laserer annihilates him.

I'm also of the camp that can't imagine how Thumpback would win a damage war with Stump Smash, though. Keep in mind that, with capped elemental power, each of those acorns is doing over 50 damage and not just 24. Criticals for over 100. Thumpback could be beaten in just a couple acorn streams, and Stumpy more than any other regular-sized Skylander can stand up to a beating HP-wise.

Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038	#1878 Posted: 19:38:32 02/02/2013 Quick question about Eye brawl: On the eye for an eye path, when he summons mini eyeballs with his eye laser, while zapping the enemy, do the mini eyeballs automatically add an extra 12 damage to each laser. I watched a pvp video with him and it looked like there was an extra 12 damage in addition to the 9, from the laser.

EgoNaut Yellow Sparx

Gems: 1730

#1879 Posted: 23:32:17 02/02/2013 | Topic Creator

Quote: Hazard335

I think Series 1 Undead Defender should move up a tier.
even on Series 1 it seems Undead Defender is better then Vampiric Warrior, mainly for the stun, so they should at least be in the same tire together.
has anyone done any testing at all on these Series 1 paths?

Series 1 Chop Chop's paths were tested fairly well a long while back, though the tiers around them have changed a fair bit since, so perhaps a little re-evaluation may be in order?

Currently, S1 Chop Chop / Vampiric Warrior is in C Tier and S1 Chop Chop / Undead Defender is in D Tier: Do people think that the two paths are in the correct positions relative to eachother? For example, would Undead Defender compete well enough against some of the current C Tier characters to afford himself a place in the C Tier next to Vampiric Warrior?
What do people think, and is any research needed?

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DraculauraXXX Blue Sparx Gems: 654	#1880 Posted: 04:34:58 03/02/2013 its the stun that makes series 1 Undead Defender the better path I have my series 1 and legendary on different paths, which makes me play both paths often im not sure what should move up or down on the tire list, but in the end Undead Defender should be in the same tire or above Vampric Warrior
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swohh4work Yellow Sparx

Gems: 1226

#1881 Posted: 20:45:50 04/02/2013

Ok. I know that some people donot think that this topic needs to be stickied, but:

I think that it has the best upgrade path information,
It has the most accurately researched and posted info about each of the characters,
and most of the posters and the originator of this topic are very thorough with the information that they provide.

To some things up please, please, please STICKY this topic.

zap18 Gold Sparx Gems: 2530	#1882 Posted: 22:10:36 04/02/2013 YES!!! --- Salsa is best monkey Amiibos or skylanders? Not sure this time around

Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038	#1883 Posted: 22:12:47 04/02/2013 I approve!

Skybagel Gold Sparx Gems: 2092	#1884 Posted: 13:30:35 05/02/2013 Please! --- Whoop whoop! Yellow Sparx on the day of Swap Force's release!

Tashiji Yellow Sparx Gems: 1453	#1885 Posted: 16:23:55 05/02/2013 Yes, I agree. It's much more than a tier list now, it's a forum for in-depth discussion of game mechanics. That's not really being talked about anywhere else at the moment.

Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038	#1886 Posted: 19:53:19 05/02/2013 Yeah, it also serves as an upgrade path recommendation topic for pvp. Granted, there are some spots I disagree with however, we really have made this into a big thing. Also, expect these tier lists to get even BETTER and broader once we make one for Swap force. I can see at least 2 new tiers being added as well, as there will be many new characters to the game.

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1887 Posted: 22:55:52 05/02/2013 This page needs Sticky, I agree. "Now that's the real power of teamwork (and some fights)!" -Sonic the Hedgehog --- Fins, of fury!

DocCroc Yellow Sparx Gems: 1668	#1888 Posted: 23:12:58 05/02/2013 Depending on how the combinations work for the Swap Force characters, trying to whittle down tiers could end up being a massive headache

swohh4work Yellow Sparx Gems: 1226	#1889 Posted: 04:22:43 06/02/2013 Appreciation to all that support getting this Topic STICKIED, especially Tashiji and any of the other major contributers to this topic. Thanks. And with God on our side we shall be victorious!!!

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1890 Posted: 04:52:11 06/02/2013 ^ And uh, Me! I Helped! --- Fins, of fury!

swohh4work Yellow Sparx Gems: 1226	#1891 Posted: 02:12:47 08/02/2013 Yes LightSpyro13, you have been a tremendous contributer to this topic too. I know that I can get very long winded and preachy, and I didn't want my horrid memory to allow me to leave any one of the many tremendous contributers out. So I appologise to you and all the others that I did not give propper credit to. Thank you all.

0_0 Ripto Gems: 11	#1892 Posted: 03:30:07 08/02/2013 STIKIEZ.

zap18 Gold Sparx Gems: 2530	#1893 Posted: 23:57:33 09/02/2013 Anyone Here have Ninjini? --- Salsa is best monkey Amiibos or skylanders? Not sure this time around

EgoNaut Yellow Sparx

Gems: 1730

#1894 Posted: 00:54:20 10/02/2013 | Topic Creator

Quote: DocCroc

Depending on how the combinations work for the Swap Force characters, trying to whittle down tiers could end up being a massive headache

But there's no doubt that it'll be fun. Bring on the challenge, says I!

Apologies to everyone that I dissapeared for a litte bit there. I've literally just managed to fix an internet connection that had temporarily broke on me.

EDIT: The thought just occurred to me that because all characters will be able to jump in Swap Force as far as i'm aware, this could really shake up the PvP gameplay, possibly adding a whole new layer of mechanics to each character for us to mull over! Alot may depends on whether the characters behave the same way when they jump or jump to different heights and speeds, and whether their attacks can be combined with jumping somehow. Perhaps the gameplay for flying characters will be affected in some way as well. It's all rather exciting.

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LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1895 Posted: 01:30:56 10/02/2013 I wonder how the swapabilities will affect PvP, mixing a character's head with another's body with all 256 combinations. Sounds so big and helpful it'd change everything. I don't we'd even get them all --- Fins, of fury!

slambam104 Gold Sparx Gems: 2464	#1896 Posted: 00:57:11 12/02/2013 I think crystaler S1 should be moved up to B tier.
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gillgrunt987 Diamond Sparx Gems: 7668	#1897 Posted: 12:06:24 12/02/2013 Hmm...once the rest are out(Ninjini etc.) we can start thinking of how to to sort SSF characters(Swap Force ones). --- I can survive scalding hot coffee and being whipped for 24 hours a day. Digestive biscuits or riot.

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1898 Posted: 15:02:36 12/02/2013 Quote: slambam104 I think crystaler S1 should be moved up to B tier. No! I mean it's better than Prismancer but he'll be leagues below B tier. He's too slow, lacking the pulse-combo trick with the Wow Pow, damage, and is mostly for medium range combat. He is average without the wow pow. --- Fins, of fury!

slambam104 Gold Sparx

Gems: 2464

#1899 Posted: 21:53:27 12/02/2013

Quote: LightSpyro13

Quote: slambam104
I think crystaler S1 should be moved up to B tier.

No! I mean it's better than Prismancer but he'll be leagues below B tier. He's too slow, lacking the pulse-combo trick with the Wow Pow, damage, and is mostly for medium range combat.

He is average without the wow pow.

This where his defence comes in. So when he comes in close he won't take as much

LightSpyro13 Blue Sparx Gems: 861	#1900 Posted: 02:40:10 13/02/2013 It's also where his offense and speed come out. Anyone who is good enough to get in close range can mangle him like the Greasers pounding CatDog. --- Fins, of fury!

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