Hello, I don't believe I've ever really spoken to you, therefore, you could not possibly know anything about who I am or what my intentions are.
I have read some of the arguments you have with CAV, but honestly, I don't need to see much to know that the thought process in which caused you to make that post was not "Looks like CAV seems a little angry. I'm going to help him by telling him to calm down."
What are you trying to imply? That I see CAV as my "MY ARCH NEEEEMESIS"?
I've rarely been extremely confrontational here. I don't want to argue with CAV. I don't enjoy it in the slightest. I don't try to play with him and make him angry. I try to settle things as soon as possible when he gets angry at me, while still making things as peaceful as possible. I pretty much do this with everyone.
If I wanted to rile CAV up, I know exactly what to do. But I don't want to do that. And I'm honestly not in the mood for discussion with him right now, and won't have much time to discuss things with him anyway. So I simply tell him to calm down. He's getting angry over something he doesn't need to be getting angry over, and according to what he said to me the last time I spoke to him privately, he shouldn't be getting angry with me so easily. So yeah, I did try to genuinely tell him to calm down.
Tell me, was the thought process you guessed correct?
I never said that you sought out to anger CAV. I know that you aren't playing that childish game. I am just saying that, when you posted 'Calm down," did you really think that it was going to have a positive affect on CAV and the situation between you two?
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"No, John. It is pretty weird that ghosts have to pee."
I have read some of the arguments you have with CAV, but honestly, I don't need to see much to know that the thought process in which caused you to make that post was not "Looks like CAV seems a little angry. I'm going to help him by telling him to calm down."
What are you trying to imply? That I see CAV as my "MY ARCH NEEEEMESIS"?
I've rarely been extremely confrontational here. I don't want to argue with CAV. I don't enjoy it in the slightest. I don't try to play with him and make him angry. I try to settle things as soon as possible when he gets angry at me, while still making things as peaceful as possible. I pretty much do this with everyone.
If I wanted to rile CAV up, I know exactly what to do. But I don't want to do that. And I'm honestly not in the mood for discussion with him right now, and won't have much time to discuss things with him anyway. So I simply tell him to calm down. He's getting angry over something he doesn't need to be getting angry over, and according to what he said to me the last time I spoke to him privately, he shouldn't be getting angry with me so easily. So yeah, I did try to genuinely tell him to calm down.
Tell me, was the thought process you guessed correct?
I never said that you sought out to anger CAV. I know that you aren't playing that childish game. I am just saying that, when you posted 'Calm down," did you really think that it was going to have a positive affect on CAV and the situation between you two?
I figured at least showing a lack of mutual hostility would be good.
What are you trying to imply? That I see CAV as my "MY ARCH NEEEEMESIS"?
I've rarely been extremely confrontational here. I don't want to argue with CAV. I don't enjoy it in the slightest. I don't try to play with him and make him angry. I try to settle things as soon as possible when he gets angry at me, while still making things as peaceful as possible. I pretty much do this with everyone.
If I wanted to rile CAV up, I know exactly what to do. But I don't want to do that. And I'm honestly not in the mood for discussion with him right now, and won't have much time to discuss things with him anyway. So I simply tell him to calm down. He's getting angry over something he doesn't need to be getting angry over, and according to what he said to me the last time I spoke to him privately, he shouldn't be getting angry with me so easily. So yeah, I did try to genuinely tell him to calm down.
Tell me, was the thought process you guessed correct?
I never said that you sought out to anger CAV. I know that you aren't playing that childish game. I am just saying that, when you posted 'Calm down," did you really think that it was going to have a positive affect on CAV and the situation between you two?
I figured at least showing a lack of mutual hostility would be good.
I see. While options that would be the slightest bit better for you to do in this situation exist, I can see where it is coming from.
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"No, John. It is pretty weird that ghosts have to pee."
I never threw a fit. I was annoyed, but I didn't throw fits. And I didn't make a threat. Because I will actually do what I said if you do decide to do anything like what you did before a second time.
And I would discuss this more, but last time I tried to make amends, you just kept saying I should admit to things that simply aren't the case. Just so you could say you were "right". And I'm not doing that, because I frankly don't need to be kissing someone's ass.
And what's this about talking down to you? I know the topic you are referring to, and I never did anything of the sort.
.........That's the definition of a threat.
I wasn't trying to do that so I can say I was right. I was doing that so we can both admit that we were wrong.
You went on to say that the topic shouldn't exist because we were too young/inexperienced to know what we were on about. That's talking down to us.
As for talking down to me directly, look at the last PM you sent me, read it, and then try and figure out why I never replied.
Hello, I don't believe I've ever really spoken to you, therefore, you could not possibly know anything about who I am or what my intentions are.
He...........doesn't really have to.
And if he does, that's hypocritical on both of our behalves, since we've both similar things. You don't have to know a person to call them out on something you think is wrong.
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He's getting angry over something he doesn't need to be getting angry over
This is the man that made a big post ranting on a post I made where I literally said nothing, and agreed to something he said.
But now for the fun part:
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For someone who claims to be "over with" me, you're certainly doing a good job of showing it.
Oh, god forbid I post something on my mind in a topic where the purpose is to post things on your mind.
As Wspyro said, this is Personal Thoughts. This is a place to post your personal thoughts about something/someone without going to them directly. If I really wanted to start a fight with you, I would've PMed you directly and told you this.
Am I suddenly not allowed to post my personal opinions on Personal Thoughts? Will posting on here mean that I'm trying to pick a fight with whoever I'm talking about? You are literally doing pretty much everything you accuse me of doing, and continue to act like the all knowing savior of the masses that wants to keep the peace, when you're the one that's picking a fight.
Get over yourself.
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Talking down to someone does not equal calling them inexperienced or too young. I didn't say anything about myself being better than everyone, I merely pointed out how you were all inexperienced in one particular field. And it's a fact. You yourself have told me that you hardly ever even get out of your home or school, yet you still try to act "experienced" in life? Like you have a place calling 95% of suicidal people cowards? Like you know what goes on with them?
Bean Sprout was not calling me out on being wrong. They were claiming to know my intentions and train of thought. That is a very irrational claim to make about someone you have never actually communicated with. I know full well Bean Sprout does not know my train of thought, so I can tell them they were wrong to make such a claim.
I already told you that the post was not made based just on one thing, it was made for different reasons.
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Oh, god forbid I post something on my mind in a topic where the purpose is to post things on your mind.
As Wspyro said, this is Personal Thoughts. This is a place to post your personal thoughts about something/someone without going to them directly. If I really wanted to start a fight with you, I would've PMed you directly and told you this.
Am I suddenly not allowed to post my personal opinions on Personal Thoughts? Will posting on here mean that I'm trying to pick a fight with whoever I'm talking about? You are literally doing pretty much everything you accuse me of doing, and continue to act like the all knowing savior of the masses that wants to keep the peace, when you're the one that's picking a fight.
Get over yourself.
Oh fun fun fun...
Firstly, when did I ever say it was wrong for you to post that here? Never. I just pointed out how you posting about me here proves how a claim you stood so strongly by in the past was false. Clearly you still are letting yourself be bothered by me too much, considering how you so strongly claimed you were "over me", which was what I was stating in the sentence you quoted in the first place.
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Will posting on here mean that I'm trying to pick a fight with whoever I'm talking about?
No, it does not.
However, when you say something like this at the end:
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And I know you're going to reply here or send me a PM calling me immature/childish or saying I have a superiority complex for posting this. At least I'm not talking down to people that are relatively close to my age.
You're are literally asking for a response. Not even, you are actually assuming I will argue with you, EXPECTING me to.
Oh, but wait - how did I respond to your post?
........Told you to calm down........yeah, I was totally trying to pick a fight..... :I
Seriously though, I told you to calm down because you're getting too worked up and angry over me. You're clearly holding onto a grudge, and just one of us doing that isn't healthy for either of us. I was being serious when I told you to calm down.
But how did you respond to that?
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And then the person that threw a fit and made threats a while back is the one telling me to calm down.
...With more confrontation. You didn't just drop it, nope, you had to bring up the past. And distort the truth about the past, too.
It was at this point I figured I should give you some sort of a response. I didn't pick a fight with you, I gave you calm responses to everything you said. I have been discussing things with you politely, and you just keep cursing, bringing up the past, and telling me to get over myself, and accusing me of trying to be a know-it-all or a prophet or a saviour........
And yet you still wonder why I say you are inexperienced? Why I say you have a superiority complex (which is something you have admitted to me in private and in public, by the way)? Why I say you seem to just argue for the sake of being confrontational?
considering how you so strongly claimed you were "over me", which was what I was stating in the sentence you quoted in the first place.
He didn't mean over YOU, Brawler, he meant he was done with the fight you two previously had.
I shall use Skylar's example to clear it up:
It's like eating a Popsicle flavor, but then getting tired of it so you go eat another flavor only for then someone to point out that you said you were over Popsicles.
He never said he was over YOU, he was just done dealing with that past fight.
considering how you so strongly claimed you were "over me", which was what I was stating in the sentence you quoted in the first place.
He didn't mean over YOU, Brawler, he meant he was done with the fight you two previously had.
I shall use Skylar's example to clear it up:
It's like eating a Popsicle flavor, but then getting tired of it so you go eat another flavor only for then someone to point out that you said you were over Popsicles.
He never said he was over YOU, he was just done dealing with that past fight.
Not what he told me in PMs before now. That's why I made that point.
Firstly, when did I ever say it was wrong for you to post that here? Never. I just pointed out how you posting about me here proves how a claim you stood so strongly by in the past was false. Clearly you still are letting yourself be bothered by me too much, considering how you so strongly claimed you were "over me", which was what I was stating in the sentence you quoted in the first place.
You're are literally asking for a response. Not even, you are actually assuming I will argue with you, EXPECTING me to.
Seriously though, I told you to calm down because you're getting too worked up and angry over me. You're clearly holding onto a grudge, and just one of us doing that isn't healthy for either of us. I was being serious when I told you to calm down.
So lemmie get this straight: I speak my thoughts on something completely unrelated to what happened in the past.....................and that means I'm not over it?
Is this going to be a recurring theme for whenever I speak up my mind about things regarding you? That any time I disagree with what you say, I'm not over what happened?
I was expecting a response since I know you're one to do so. You did so back then, and I knew you were going to now. And you did. You didn't pick a fight with me, but rather, you instead started arguing with other people.
And that last bit is hypocritical since you got worked up with a post where I agreed with you. The post you were responding to was a post where I said nothing, more or less agreeing with what you said when you said you weren't someone to look up to. If you don't want people agreeing with that, don't post it.
But no. You then throw a fit about it, ranting and raving, calling me childish, an arse, several other things. And I'm the one that's suppose to calm down?
As for the "holding a grudge" thing, I'll refer you to the first paragraph of this post. Get your head out of your arse.
P.S. If you want to be the "peacekeeper" you claim you are, stop responding.
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You talked about how you felt like I was talking down to you in the last conversation we had. That was quite a while ago. In the past. That's all I need to say on that matter. Seems you can't even make a simple analysis of your own post.
I argued with Bean Sprout because they made their own assumption about me that wasn't true. I'm entitled to that. I would of made my point to them regardless of whether or not they said what they did because of our posts.
And I responded to Erica's post right now to clarify that she can't see my PM Inbox, and what was said in the messages.
How is "arguing with others" a criticism against me anyway? They say something to me. I say something back. Things end quickly. No harm done.
And it's generally common courtesy to respond to something directed at you. It's not me being confrontational, hence why I responded with "calm down". That is literally the only reason I responded, out of common courtesy. Mixed with a bit of boredom.
Again, I didn't throw a fit about any particular post. I was annoyed with your general attitude towards me for the past while. And you had blocked me on both here and Skype, so I vented here, like everyone else. And you looking up to me was news to me (I don't really count that time you said you admired me for posting about Cynder waxing herself, when we first ever started talking), which was aggravating, because I honestly don't understand what I ever did to you for you to start gossiping about me all of a sudden, which is what has led to all of this.
And I did get angry at you, and I did call you things like horrible, but that's because you were. Again, from my perspective, this whole fiasco started from nothing. Which is aggravating. And hearing that you once looked up to me wasn't pleasant, as it made me feel like I did something a long time ago, to break some sort of dependancy on me you never even informed me of. Do you have any idea how that feels?
When I said "people shouldn't look up to me", it wasn't because I was clamouring for emo points, or beating myself up, or even criticsing myself. I said it in the context that I REALLY dislike people looking up to me. It's uneccesary pressure on me, and on this site in particular, I feel like everyone treats me too much like a therapist or like some sort of hero of justice (you yourself referred to me as your "unofficial therapist, who's much better than the official one" on MANY occasions). I have never cared about justice, or considered myself a hero, or considered myself a replacement for a paid therapist. And I really don't understand why I get this kind of attention, it's the internet. Friendships and romance is fine, but looking up to me as a general role model? It's pressure I don't need, and I never felt like I did anything to justify these grandoise claims. I have even told you, on the many occasions that you told me "you saved me from suicide", that it was your doing, not mine. But you still kept insisting that it was me, no matter what I said. And moments like that have caused other users to flock to me for help. You may bitterly call me a prophet or a saviour, but some of your own actions have literally had people flocking to me as if I was one of those things. Do you think I enjoy that? No, I don't.
And I TRIED to get into this stuff before, but you kept ignoring what I would say, just to babble on about how right you were in saying "GEEZ BRAWLER CALM DOWN AND DUN POST ABOU ME LIKE DAT I DIDNT EVEN SAY ANYTHING, YOU COULDNT POSSIBLY BE MAKING THAT POST FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN MY QUOTING OF YOUR POST".
TL;DR - The difference between you and me is that you got angry when I told you you're wrong about some things, or when I highlight your inexperience.
I got angry with you because of a huge build up of sudden pressure on me. From the gossiping, to the bringing up stuff I thought we had settled (stuff that didn't really involve me to begin with), to the giving me uneccessary attention.....could you REALLY blame me for getting a little angry? Especially when I spent so long being peaceful, only to get immature insults and assumptions about certain aspects of my life in return?
And considering how what I said to you was not even extremely harsh, not even as harsh as you, I think that, considering my situation (which I only briefly described in the spoiler box, there's a ton more I could say about my feelings then, and now), I have remained pretty calm in the grand scheme of things. Where as you are snapping at me for stating a fact.
And again, it's always been clear you've been holding a grudge. You take a shot at me at every oppurtunity you get, even when it's uncalled for. And you also say the same things over and over, going on about how you can't POSSIBLY be wrong, whenever I try to discuss an issue these days. And you always blow what I say out of proportion (e.g. you claimed I said people can't have an opinion, when I never did).
I know what you're like, I've seen you hold grudges on others before, and you would tell me about it privately. I know when you have a grudge on anyone, let alone myself.
--- "My memories will be part of the sky."
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Alrighty. You clearly don't want to be the peacekeeper, so I'm just going to go and finish things myself, with just a few words to go with:
1. If I really was holding a grudge and wanted to take a shot at you every chance I had, I would've done so several times, including in this very topic (this is my first post in here about you).
2. There's no way to be right in either situation, so there is no way that can be my goal.
3. Don't talk down to my friends and not expect me to say something.
4. I'm going to post whatever I want in Personal Thoughts, since it's my personal thoughts. If you want to think that everything I say about you is an attack, go ahead and do so. Just know that it isn't. I have moved on from that situation (the first post was about something different, and the second was just pointing out irony), but it seems you want to delude yourself into thinking otherwise. Fine by me. I'll just call out what I think is bull****, like I always have.
1) People who have grudges don't rave about the subject of their grudge constantly, they quietly hang onto anger and let it out when it seems fitting. Which seems to be what you do.
2)You act like you're right in the sense that you never listen to anything I try to say, and often ignore me. And from what others have told me, you do the same to them.
3) I didn't talk down to any of your friends, I corrected them where they were wrong about me.
4) It's not that I think everything you say is an attack against me, I just clearly showed how what you said today was. You clearly wanted me to talk, so I did, and you continued throwing bitter, immature insults at me within your posts, while I did nothing of the sort. You can post what you want here, I never implied you could not. I'd just rather you not get so riled up over me like that, so I told you to calm down. I'm allowed to do that too. And I would like you to have moved on from the past, but you keep proving otherwise. How could I delude myself into thinking what I don't want is the case, when it isn't? Why would I do that, if you had moved on, when I myself want you to?
You keep telling me I'm delusional, but never back it up. You have showed a lack of substance to a lot of your points lately. You are relying so heavily on making me look bad through pet insults. That's how I know you aren't over things, and you know you aren't.
When will you show up again? Your girlfriend is around, you're probably busy as life tends to happen. I hope you don't vanish, I've alienated myself in that place.
I'm too nervous to even mention that, I feel like I'll let everyone down again. Well, in my mind I will I'm not sure how well I did. I don't feel like it was good enough.
You idiot. Thanks to you, my poor cat is sick! Because you couldn't be bothered to actually use proper logic.
...As if I needed more reason to dislike you... You've added another thing, size be damned, to that already huge mountain of reasons why I dislike you.
Well I did my part.
Now it's your turn to either talk back or do whatever interaction you can between you and me if you want to keep this friendship alive.
You can't fall asleep yet. I miss you. I need you. It's driving me crazy.
Plus I'm more scared tonight than usual.
I think it's funny. That I care more about you than you ever will for me, if you even care at all. In a way you're worse than him, but I'm addicted.
How can you sleep anyway with things falling apart around you. You can't see that it's not the only thing, not even just one of the many things, but everything altogether falling down and down. I thought I was the one with nerves of steel. But, only because I'm happy and leave things up to "fate". Your reason is probably something totally different, isn't it? I can laugh and makes jokes in a nervous way, but when you laugh at a time like this, I somehow get the feeling that you're laughing outside of the anxiety.
I don't know why, that fascinates me. There was once that I saw something because of Kitty-chan and you were that way, exactly the way you are, even in the seconds before you took your last breath. Because I know that you can't be the same, stay the same, everywhere, but I only want you to know. I really like the way that you are. I've grown way too used to you and now I don't want to let go. It doesn't matter which future will be "ours" I think you're beautiful. Just beautiful. As you are now.
~I have no idea what's going to happen now, but my stupid antics have lead me to revealing that I'm a Brony to my grandfather, I hope he finds the right things online~
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