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Quote: SkyDaddy

Quote: bensdady

Actually the law is if its out, unless something is posted you can buy it. If they don't let you, you call the store manager or coporate. they would much rather have your business than to not have you business over a 10 dollar figure.

Before you talk about laws then you should understand that selling items ahead of the release date will cost a store a lot of money. The TRU rep that I talked too before regarding the Dragon's peak issue said that for their store it will cost them a $7,000 fine if they violate the street dates. The inconvenience to the customer is not worth the $7,000 fine and the system which prevents the sale is in their to make sure that this does not happen.

Also, this situation could cost one if not multiple people their jobs. Honestly, TRU can afford the 7k fine. Not saying that they would want to pay it but, they could afford to. On the other hand, in the US jobs are at a premium. That 10 dollar an hour job or w/e they get paid. Goes to support someone or a family. I can bet you that if TRU corporate found out about this some one would be in a lot of hot water.

Quote: SkyDaddy

Quote: bensdady

Actually the law is if its out, unless something is posted you can buy it. If they don't let you, you call the store manager or coporate. they would much rather have your business than to not have you business over a 10 dollar figure.

Before you talk about laws then you should understand that selling items ahead of the release date will cost a store a lot of money. The TRU rep that I talked too before regarding the Dragon's peak issue said that for their store it will cost them a $7,000 fine if they violate the street dates. The inconvenience to the customer is not worth the $7,000 fine and the system which prevents the sale is in their to make sure that this does not happen.

Oooh, you learn something new everyday. I always wondered what happened if street date was broken but they're pretty o point here in NY so it barely happens (and when it does, you can bet your booty they fix it asap).

Quote: mantez

He paid $10 for a skylander and he got a skylander what difference does it really make?

Any chance you up a pic of the barcode so I can see if it is in my local TRUs system.

The Barcode is as follows since i havent learned the picture trick:


47875 84534

i understand the street date thing, but they had actually already broken it by putting them out. Street dates state cannot be put out, or sold before such and such date. All you have to do is call the store manager though. They don't want to lose your business and they def don't want to lose your business over a 10 dollar toy.

I'm also thinking "who the hell cares?" about the grammar but maybe I can add my two cents? An "a" is used when the object begins with a consanant (sp?). And an "an" is used when the object begings with a vowel. So saying "a L- stealth elf" is correct. Like everyone else said, "who the hell cares?"

Breaking a street date means selling it. A store is not going to be fined for having an item sitting on a shelf early. Know what would happen if a supervisor saw an early street date on the sales floor before any guests saw it? They'd instruct the worker on duty to simply move it off the sales floor. It happens. SELLING an item early is where **** hits the fan.

Ok so i went to my local TRU just a couple hours ago and they had a space set for them on the shelf already with a price tag, barcode and everything and there was one little legendary stealth elf hanging on the hook. I snagged it took it to the checkout and of course it rang up that it wasnt to be sold till the 22nd. A manager came over and I politely said that it wasnt my fault if one of the employees had put them on the shelf but that it was hanging out there with a barcode and price tag in plain sight for sale so I wanted to buy it. I suggested to scan a different Skylander and just let me take the Elf as anything to override the computer doesnt work. He accepted that and so thats what we did!....atleast I wont have to deal with Black Friday at TRU now so i am happy!! As far as i am concerned if they put them on the shop floor for sale then thats their fault but it is the sale floor so if someone wants to buy it they should honor it.

Where do you live?

Chicago area!

Darn, WAY too far away.

Quote: SkyDaddy

Quote: bensdady

Actually the law is if its out, unless something is posted you can buy it. If they don't let you, you call the store manager or coporate. they would much rather have your business than to not have you business over a 10 dollar figure.

Before you talk about laws then you should understand that selling items ahead of the release date will cost a store a lot of money. The TRU rep that I talked too before regarding the Dragon's peak issue said that for their store it will cost them a $7,000 fine if they violate the street dates. The inconvenience to the customer is not worth the $7,000 fine and the system which prevents the sale is in their to make sure that this does not happen.

Exactly.
REGARDLESS OF THE EMPLOYEE BEING THE ONE WHO PUT THE STOCK ON THE SHELF YOU ARE THE ONE TO BLAME FOR TAKING IT AND BREAKING THE STREET DATE.
Read this rant and replace Walmart with TRU and you basically have my point. In fact check the next pages of the thread and you'll see I ranted even more. You're risking the jobs of other workers to get something a few days early, whatever happened to patience?

Spoons I will not quote you as your post with the pics is too long.

I still think what you and the store did was incorrect. That is still breaking the street date. Honestly, I don't think she will be hard to find. They will have plenty on the launch day or soon after.

People make mistakes and it shouldn't be everyone's first instinct to, Hey how can I exploit it.

She will become Legendary Trigger Happy all over again. Garuntee it. Small shortage after initial Black Friday launch, but afterwards she's going to become a shelf warmer.

@Nibelilt,

If an employee sells you something before street date, it is them risking their jobs me there is no one else to blame. If they aren't suppose to sell it, then they shouldn't. That's on them, they should know better.

Quote: czs716

@Nibelilt,

If an employee sells you something before street date, it is them risking their jobs me there is no one else to blame. If they aren't suppose to sell it, then they shouldn't. That's on them, they should know better.

I think the problem that Nibelilt and I have is that people don't take it upon themselves to do anything about it. Have a little self control and don't think about yourself for once. Is it going to make a big difference if you get it now or in seven days? No, now it might make a big difference if a person loses their job.

People need to have a little more understanding in these situations. Not, y u put out and not sell? because it was a mistake.

Not saying this at you czs just in general.

^ ^ ^
Regardless of the employee being the one to put the stock out if you bought one then you're the one who bought it. It's your fault now if they need to suffer from it. They put the stock out but you exploited it.

I completely understand your points. If I found one and they would've told me that they couldn't sell it to me, I would just go in my way and go back later.

That said, the only person that can be blamed for risking their job, is the employee.

It's not just a matter of a fine or risking of the employees job. Last year following a street date break of a very large title the offending retailer was not only fined, but the had their early delivery of games from the company revoked. Now, instead of being in store to be available for sale at 9am, they have to wait until the next delivery after the street date to get stock of games to avoid it happening again because of the frequency it happened. As a result of this some bigger retailers have implemented the fail safe in their system to stop the street dated item from being sold early, that's why LSE doesn't scan, it's the company trying to stop it and you're circumventing this by getting employees to bypass this so you can have it now.

Moral of the story, don't try and break street dates because you are potentially costing someone their job and ruining the chances for others to go get their item on release day.

^ Exactly.
Regardless of the employee being the one who put it out YOU'RE TO BLAME for potentially making them lost their job- THEY put it out, YOU bought it, therefore YOU exploited the loophole instead of doing the honorable thing and telling them about it(and in the case they don't change it and put it back, you shouldn't be using it anyway because you are potentially putting the store under fines which risks the jobs of OTHER PEOPLE). Exploiting something just because you aren't the only one to do it doesn't make it right.

I got Legendary Stealth Elf today too, in basically the same way as everyone else!

So when I get there (around 3 pm), I see a bunch of employees unloading boxes of Skylanders. Mostly Wave 1s with a few Wave 2s. I ask one of them if they know when Legendary Stealth Elf is coming in. They told me Black Friday. Even so, I wait and wait and wait. Then I decided to walk around for a bit and then come back later. About 5 minutes later, I see her. Dozens of Legendary Stealth Elfs on the shelves! I quickly snatch one up and ask the same guy how is this possible. He said hes honestly not sure. A manager comes over and says that they can't be sold until tomorrow (the 18th), but it should work in the computer. As he is telling me this, another employee comes over and starts to take all of them off of the shelves. I kept mine obviously (along with a Fright Rider) lol. So, I then proceed to go pay. The lady at checkout says the computer wont accept it until tomorrow. I was like NOOOO! I asked her if she can scan the Fright Rider twice since they are the same $9.99 price. She said sure and that was that!

So to sum it all up; I got Legendary Stealth Elf EARLY for only 5 BUCKS (thanks to today's sale at Toys R Us)!

Oh and I also found the Toys R Us exclusive Giants Trading Card set, which was also on sale, so I got both Legendary Packs. It was a very good day.

I'm pretty sure I didn't see any of this negativity when people got the starter packs early...

Honestly, I think some people are either jealous, or they got fired for breaking a release date for something somewhere, making this a touchy subject for them.

I'm sure none of us went with the intent to get people fired and I'm damn sure I didnt hold anyone to gunpoint in order for them to sell me a LSE. Most everday normal people dont know anything about the laws and governing rules regarding street date ethics so get off your high horses and get real. Responsibility lies with the seller to ensure items are stocked on the floor at the correct times and sold on the correct date. If they fail to follow that then thats their fault and nobody else's. I have no doubt these will be widely available upon release but I for one am not wasting my time and gas to go back if they are quite content to sell me one now.

Quote: Trexroarr

Honestly, I think some people are either jealous, or they got fired for breaking a release date for something somewhere, making this a touchy subject for them.

Such a typical defence from someone who has been called out on doing the wrong thing. Its not a jealousy thing, because the fact is that if anyone wanted it so bad, they'd buy it off eBay. Even the employees at the retailer I mentioned earlier were not fired, penalised yes but they are still there.

Let's face it, what you did was immoral and karma will catch up with those kinds of actions.

Quote: spoons10696

I'm sure none of us went with the intent to get people fired and I'm damn sure I didnt hold anyone to gunpoint in order for them to sell me a LSE. Most everday normal people dont know anything about the laws and governing rules regarding street date ethics so get off your high horses and get real. Responsibility lies with the seller to ensure items are stocked on the floor at the correct times and sold on the correct date. If they fail to follow that then thats their fault and nobody else's. I have no doubt these will be widely available upon release but I for one am not wasting my time and gas to go back if they are quite content to sell me one now.

Ignorantia legis neminem excusat.

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Quote: Trexroarr

Honestly, I think some people are either jealous, or they got fired for breaking a release date for something somewhere, making this a touchy subject for them.

Such a typical defence from someone who has been called out on doing the wrong thing. Its not a jealousy thing, because the fact is that if anyone wanted it so bad, they'd buy it off eBay. Even the employees at the retailer I mentioned earlier were not fired, penalised yes but they are still there.

Let's face it, what you did was immoral and karma will catch up with those kinds of actions.

You can't be serious right now. The employees put them on the shelves. The manager said the computer should accept it. The cashier sold it to me. How is that possibly my fault as the consumer? I saw a product on the shelves that I wanted, so I bought it. It is that simple. I don't understand how this is even a conversation right now. It is absolutely not a big deal.

Quote: Trexroarr

Honestly, I think some people are either jealous, or they got fired for breaking a release date for something somewhere, making this a touchy subject for them.

Trust me, I'm not jealouse at all. Some of us just have very strick morals. While others tend to have little to none.

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Quote: Trexroarr

Honestly, I think some people are either jealous, or they got fired for breaking a release date for something somewhere, making this a touchy subject for them.

Trust me, I'm not jealouse at all. Some of us just have very strick morals. While others tend to have little to none.

I was just taking a guess as to why all the drama is all.

You are right Alliana......ignorance of the law does not excuse TRU employees from screwing up!...they should know better. You are amusing!

Quote: Trexroarr

You can't be serious right now. The employees put them on the shelves. The manager said the computer should accept it. The cashier sold it to me. How is that possibly my fault as the consumer? I saw a product on the shelves that I wanted, so I bought it. It is that simple. I don't understand how this is even a conversation right now. It is absolutely not a big deal.

The 'deal' is that you knew what date she was meant to be out, but you allowed them to bypass their system in order to get what you want, thus what you did was immoral.

But congratulations on being dishonest and having the bragging rights of doing so. I'm sure you'll enjoy your next life as a toad very much.

Quote: spoons10696

You are right Alliana......ignorance of the law does not excuse TRU employees from screwing up!...they should know better. You are amusing!

Congratulations on your google prowess, I'm sure it took less time to copy and paste for you than it did for me to remember the correct spelling
I never denied TRU's part in it, they should be fined to stop it from happening. You are the one trying to say the the average consumer is ignorant thus not responsible.

Yeah... I don't believe in spiritual karma mumbo jumbo. I'm a man of science. To each his (or her) own, so what you say about this means nothing to me.

So apparently men of science are allowed to be immoral? Interesting...

This has nothing to do with morals! It is a store selling something. The store was at fault here, not I. You seriously made three pages of arguing over the morals of a chidren's toy. Congratulations.

This thread seriously needs to get back on topic here... -__-

Quote: spoons10696

You are right Alliana......ignorance of the law does not excuse TRU employees from screwing up!...they should know better. You are amusing!

It also does not excuse you for breaking it also. Honestly as I said in previous post on this thread, both sides are at fault. Is it too much to ask for people to wait for the street date? Just because someone screws up does not mean you should automatically take advantage of it. How many times have you made a mistake? Never? I doubt it.


Quote: Trexroarr

This has nothing to do with morals! It is a store selling something. The store was at fault here, not I. You seriously made three pages of arguing over the morals of a chidren's toy. Congratulations.

This thread seriously needs to get back on topic here... -__-

This whole thread started when someone had a LSE taken from them, they went back and grabbed another one and walked out with it. Yes, they had paid for one but were told that they could not have it. So three pages has turned into this. People need to think about others before what is always looking out for themselves.

Flip the script here, let's say you work at TRU or w/e store has something before the street date. You don't know and put it out and one or a few get sold. People find out. Now you come in and get fired. All because of this little mistake. Should of the store caught it. Yep. People make mistakes, believe or not this happens.

Not to mention that if TRU or a different company does get fined. Which does/will happen you know who ends up paying for those fines? Nope not the company, it's you me and whoever else buys stuff at that store.

Yawn!!!

Just because someone breaks the law/contract/street date does not give you the okay to do it also. What TRU did was wrong by putting out the figures early, however that does not give you the okay to break the street date.

Also, their are two sides to this some people fall on one side some on the other.

I have never gotten fired for breaking a release date. The reason it becomes a touchy subject is that these situations effect us all.

Represents the forum battles. And that loser is a thief and thinks he is a good guy. Well guess what? You get shot with confetti.

I just find this all amusing now, I really dont give a crap about morals and all. I have my skylander and no black friday hassle. End of the day, I'm happy. This is all just a party gimmick at this point for me to check and laugh at on occasion.


And yum confetti.

shadowfox:
Shoplifter, Troll, Loser, Attention Whore.

Everybody has their vices

1. It's a toy.
2. It was purchased from a multi-million profit store.
3. She paid the price it would have cost anyway.
4. It's a toy.

And we can all sleep at night.

No. We want it to feel bad. Trolls must die.Must.

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Can't feel bad if I dont care. Besides where's my prize for jumping off my roof wumbo?

I despise you Aura24. HE DID NOT STEAL IT! HE **PAID** FOR IT! If the TRU people made the mistake of putting it on the shelves, that is their fault. he didnt steal it becuase he paid for it!! Just because he swapped the two doesnt mean he stole it. and Aura24, you are an awful example also. You teach young kids to be condescending, whiny, and scroogy.

Quote: ArkeyanForce

I despise you Aura24. HE DID NOT STEAL IT! HE **PAID** FOR IT! If the TRU people made the mistake of putting it on the shelves, that is their fault. he didnt steal it becuase he paid for it!! Just because he swapped the two doesnt mean he stole it. and Aura24, you are an awful example also. You teach young kids to be condescending, whiny, and scroogy.

And what makes you say that you aren't whiny either?

When did I say that I wasn't whiny?

you sneaky sneak!

wait, when is l- coming out?

Black Friday.

Thanksgiving 8pm the 22nd if you want a number date