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The Definitive Skylanders PvP Tier List: GIANTS EDITION. [STICKY]
gillgrunt987 Diamond Sparx Gems: 7661
#601 Posted: 01:42:28 17/11/2012
600th post for second time in a row! i think.
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#602 Posted: 01:43:23 17/11/2012
Awwww.
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mario7604 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1013
#603 Posted: 02:33:01 17/11/2012
Quote: weebbby
^ Not much, LL is much better, I was on TC, and switched, and LL is MUCH better.



Do you know how much damage it does?
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#604 Posted: 02:40:45 17/11/2012
Ignitor soul of the flame and Flameslinger marksmanseries 2 are not giant killers , i did testing and they lost to every giant i have(Tree rex, crusher, hot head, swarm, bouncer) withuot the field effect marksman couldn't do too much to the giants and they killed him, and Ignitor hindered the giants a bit with his fire soul but once they got to his armor he got slautered.
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#605 Posted: 03:13:32 17/11/2012
/\ this.
joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#606 Posted: 03:23:38 17/11/2012
Quote: mario7604
I've got a question: With Tree Rex's Treefolk Charger, how much damage does the Elbow Drop do and the Ultimate Stampede? I am on the Lumbering Laserer path so I don't know.



Charge: 34
Elbow: ~52
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#607 Posted: 05:08:33 17/11/2012
Jet-Vac Jet Pack upgrade, what are the 'new attacks?'
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#608 Posted: 06:54:47 17/11/2012
Does anyone else here feel strongly about whammy being in A? I think hes good enough. The 16 dmg on the AAX attack xbox ticks very fast, the AAB combo does 50 dmg and leaves a damaging spot like the shadow knights, and the posiden strike is really damaging. He could use some apeed, but the armor takes care of it. Bad X attack.
Bean Sprout Blue Sparx Gems: 893
#609 Posted: 07:01:43 17/11/2012
Quote: Thumpterra12
Does anyone else here feel strongly about whammy being in A? I think hes good enough. The 16 dmg on the AAX attack xbox ticks very fast, the AAB combo does 50 dmg and leaves a damaging spot like the shadow knights, and the posiden strike is really damaging. He could use some apeed, but the armor takes care of it. Bad X attack.



I agree. The Poseidon strike does great damage, and his combos are also quite damaging.
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Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#610 Posted: 07:19:20 17/11/2012
Also, he's fun. The perfect balance between good and too good to be fun, but not too bad.
Sorry, did that make sense?
Earth-Dragon Blue Sparx Gems: 972
#611 Posted: 07:34:17 17/11/2012
I don't see Wham-Shell falling from A. He's not broken and is very beatable, but is good at what he does. There are no mid-range Fighters that stand any sort of chance, including Ignitor.
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Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#612 Posted: 08:09:39 17/11/2012
Yeah, I kinda agree. He's strong, but the Brocken guys beat him. Not all the time, though. Whammy beats smilie regularly.
Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038
#613 Posted: 13:58:27 17/11/2012
I cant see him beating Double Trouble.
Skybagel Gold Sparx Gems: 2092
#614 Posted: 14:27:17 17/11/2012
^Says the guy who has a smilie avatar smilie
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Skybagel Gold Sparx Gems: 2092
#615 Posted: 14:32:27 17/11/2012
Quote: EgoNaut
Quote: weebbby
HOW COME NOBODY PAID ANY ATTENTION TO MY FLASHWING REVIEW ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE!?!


It wasn't ignored. Well, definately not by me anyway. I guess no-one else in the thread had any comments to say about it besides all the general Flashwing talk going on around here anyway.

EDIT: @Skybagel: Glad you like this thread, but there's no need to act like it's been inactive. smilie It just gets pushed over to the second page of the 'Giants thread index ocasionally because the 'Giants area of the forum is so popular right now! If you look at the date and time of the post before yours, you'd see that post was made earlier the same day.

As for why Golden Frenzy is so bad. Well, it's been discussed two, maybe three times in this thread already. I'm actually too tired to go through it again right now, but i'm sure someone else will happily explain it to you. If not, then I'll tell you myself some time tommorow I guess. smilie



Haha, wow, I didn't even notice that smilie

Now, I shall go on a journey in search of the answer...

Why does everyone hate Golden Frenzy.

AWAY!!!!!
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Bean Sprout Blue Sparx Gems: 893
#616 Posted: 16:53:31 17/11/2012
Quote: Skybagel
Quote: EgoNaut
Quote: weebbby
HOW COME NOBODY PAID ANY ATTENTION TO MY FLASHWING REVIEW ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE!?!


It wasn't ignored. Well, definately not by me anyway. I guess no-one else in the thread had any comments to say about it besides all the general Flashwing talk going on around here anyway.

EDIT: @Skybagel: Glad you like this thread, but there's no need to act like it's been inactive. smilie It just gets pushed over to the second page of the 'Giants thread index ocasionally because the 'Giants area of the forum is so popular right now! If you look at the date and time of the post before yours, you'd see that post was made earlier the same day.

As for why Golden Frenzy is so bad. Well, it's been discussed two, maybe three times in this thread already. I'm actually too tired to go through it again right now, but i'm sure someone else will happily explain it to you. If not, then I'll tell you myself some time tommorow I guess. smilie



Haha, wow, I didn't even notice that smilie

Now, I shall go on a journey in search of the answer...

Why does everyone hate Golden Frenzy.

AWAY!!!!!



GF in SSA was bad, but in Giants, there is no hope for him. First of all, Bouncer is a better version of him in any way, shape, or form, makng whatever good GF could do useless. The bouncing bullets are helpful, but the shots in general aren't damaging enough to work well. His HP is a huge problem. I mean, the strategy normally for him would be to cover the field in bouncing bullets to try and thwart the opponent, making them unable to get near TH. But his speed is too low to play keep away, and once someone gets close to him, he is as good as dead as he cannot do anything to get him out of that position.
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Skybagel Gold Sparx Gems: 2092
#617 Posted: 17:14:40 17/11/2012
^Oh, right, this is a PvP Tier Topic.

DERP.

You're right. (And thanks smilie)
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#618 Posted: 17:27:33 17/11/2012
No problem. smilie
I actually just did some testing on him last night. He is the same, really. The only thing I noticed that was different is that he can use the machine gun while there are bouncing bullets, but that is minor.
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Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038
#619 Posted: 20:59:37 17/11/2012
I noticed a typo, you put Ninjini/swords pf might, when it should be swords of might.
joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#620 Posted: 21:03:32 17/11/2012
Quote: joerox123
I believe that Flashwing should be in A-Teir on Super Shards, as mentioned before, it is a double-edged sword. I am the user who moves away fast and shoots from afar. Her shards shoot rapid fire on no end, doing 13 damage a pop! She has beaten my Tree Rex and Sprocket easily.



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EgoNaut Yellow Sparx Gems: 1730
#621 Posted: 21:32:08 17/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: Zeeker
Ignitor soul of the flame and Flameslinger marksmanseries 2 are not giant killers , i did testing and they lost to every giant i have(Tree rex, crusher, hot head, swarm, bouncer) withuot the field effect marksman couldn't do too much to the giants and they killed him, and Ignitor hindered the giants a bit with his fire soul but once they got to his armor he got slautered.


If you're using SotF Ignitor properly then the opponent getting to his armour should not be a problem at all. Any opponent, giants included, should basicly get slaughtered by the ridiculous ammount of damage Ignitor can do when repeatedly spamming his Fire Soul attack at close range, using the primary attack button to detonate after each use. Remember that the trick to using SotF Ignitor is to not use either of his sword attacks, and use his fire soul attack like a melee instead.

As for Flameslinger, you'll have to ask someone like Tashiji for the exact reasoning from him being a Giant Killer. I'll still consider removing the label if enough people object to it with reasons why it should be removed.
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Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7038
#622 Posted: 21:57:27 17/11/2012
Quote: Skybagel
^Says the guy who has a smilie avatar smilie



So? I'm still modest about Double trouble, example: I can't see him beating Master blaster Drobot smilie
Earth-Dragon Blue Sparx Gems: 972
#623 Posted: 03:13:46 18/11/2012
I just think at first the giant killer label kinda made sense, but all those guys ended up in the top two tiers, which defacto means they should be able to compete with the bulk of the Giants. So I just feel the label has naturally been made obsolete.
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Glad heroic challenges are gone. Imagine doing 165 per skylander. That's 27225 challenges. No thank you.
Nibelilt Ripto Gems: 401
#624 Posted: 03:16:49 18/11/2012
If I'm totally honest- complete speculation with no testing here though- Warnado seems like a Giant Killer.
Sure, he can't dispose of them incredibly fast, but so far it looks like (other than Hot Head by virtue of Element) no Giant has a reliable counter strategy for him. He's just too fast and slippery for them. His Mini-Turtles easily dispatch and hit, and the Tornadoes don't trap but are still reliable for better damage. He seems like Terrafin was in the first game, he can defeat Giants very slowly- but surely.
Again, I didn't test AT ALL, but can someone test this or give input if you have?
Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#625 Posted: 03:24:32 18/11/2012
For the g letter, i eould just put ot next to characters tjat are not in s group that can kill giants.
Skybagel Gold Sparx Gems: 2092
#626 Posted: 04:19:09 18/11/2012
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: Skybagel
^Says the guy who has a smilie avatar smilie



So? I'm still modest about Double trouble, example: I can't see him beating Master blaster Drobot smilie


It's cool bro, I was just messin' with ya smilie
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joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#627 Posted: 05:07:43 18/11/2012
Quote: joerox123
Quote: joerox123
I believe that Flashwing should be in A-Teir on Super Shards, as mentioned before, it is a double-edged sword. I am the user who moves away fast and shoots from afar. Her shards shoot rapid fire on no end, doing 13 damage a pop! She has beaten my Tree Rex and Sprocket easily.



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Read Please?
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EgoNaut Yellow Sparx Gems: 1730
#628 Posted: 13:47:46 18/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: joerox123
Quote: joerox123
Quote: joerox123
I believe that Flashwing should be in A-Teir on Super Shards, as mentioned before, it is a double-edged sword. I am the user who moves away fast and shoots from afar. Her shards shoot rapid fire on no end, doing 13 damage a pop! She has beaten my Tree Rex and Sprocket easily.



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Read Please?


Joerox, there is no need to spam the thread like this. Your post has been read and acknowledged, I just felt more information from one or two other people was needed before I can do anything with Flashwing / Super Shards tier-wise. Flashwing generally seems to be quite a devisive topic so far, so I'm waiting for some clear-cut and consistent opinion patterns to emerge before I put her anywhere.
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weebbby Emerald Sparx Gems: 4220
#629 Posted: 13:49:12 18/11/2012
On Super Shards, I would put Flashwing in B tier, you can hardly ever use the double edged sword part, and 13 damage isn't much.
Nibelilt Ripto Gems: 401
#630 Posted: 14:14:20 18/11/2012
She seems C to me as half people are saying she's great at PVP, while the other half says she's bad, and like someone else said she seems to have a mixed potential. She also looks like she would do good against some high tierers, and bad against others.
Keep in mind I haven't actually played her, but general consensus seems mixed, so I think it's fair until other people find her.
P.S. OBVIOUSLY FLASHWING WILL WIN IN BATTLE MODE VERSUS SPROCKET because of ELEMENTAL ADVANTAGE. Logic! smilie
camoses Blue Sparx Gems: 768
#631 Posted: 15:36:36 18/11/2012
Super shards for C could work. I was thimking D
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weebbby Emerald Sparx Gems: 4220
#632 Posted: 15:39:50 18/11/2012
C could work for Super Shards, I was thinking B.
joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#633 Posted: 16:05:56 18/11/2012
Super Shards is UNDERrated! Try her! They are easy to find in my area, when you get one try Super Shards and tell me you don't like it. I am sticking strong on A. My new fav character by a longshot.
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weebbby Emerald Sparx Gems: 4220
#634 Posted: 16:28:31 18/11/2012
^ I have tried Super Shards, I don't like it. However, I love Super Spinner.
Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#635 Posted: 16:58:06 18/11/2012
Super spinner is better. Shards make you rely on the one button. Sounner allows you to use both, and you deflect projectiles, too. I hate flashwing, i wish i didnt buy her, but shes ok.
weebbby Emerald Sparx Gems: 4220
#636 Posted: 16:59:31 18/11/2012
^ Super Spinner is way better, and why do you hate Flashwing? She is personally ONE of my MANY favorites.
Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#637 Posted: 17:01:18 18/11/2012
Lol. I hated her looks as i saw her, and i thought her playstile would be fun, but i was semi-wrong. Fun to mess around with, but weak.
weebbby Emerald Sparx Gems: 4220
#638 Posted: 17:09:33 18/11/2012
^ I love her looks, and I think she is fun and strong.
EgoNaut Yellow Sparx Gems: 1730
#639 Posted: 17:17:39 18/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Well, this is confusing. smilie
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Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#640 Posted: 17:18:45 18/11/2012
Isnt it. Me and weebbby are opposite, but we both like super spinner.
Bean Sprout Blue Sparx Gems: 893
#641 Posted: 17:22:10 18/11/2012
Quote: joerox123
Super Shards is UNDERrated! Try her! They are easy to find in my area, when you get one try Super Shards and tell me you don't like it. I am sticking strong on A. My new fav character by a longshot.



Could you give some in-depth information on your testing? Such as, characters she beats and how she beats them? Because it seems to me that, if one gets close to her, she is screwed.
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joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#642 Posted: 17:30:42 18/11/2012
^ If someone gets close she spins away really fast!

Lost too:

Crusher
S2 Hex
S2 Gill Grunt
Chill

Won Against:

Tree Rex
Sprocket
S2 Double Trouble
All The Legendaries


Those are all I have.

I am going to try Super Spinner Tommorow and will tell you what I think.
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Bean Sprout Blue Sparx Gems: 893
#643 Posted: 17:32:43 18/11/2012
Quote: joerox123
^ If someone gets close she spins away really fast!

Lost too:

Crusher
S2 Hex
S2 Gill Grunt
Chill

Won Against:

Tree Rex
Sprocket
S2 Double Trouble
All The Legendaries


Those are all I have.

I am going to try Super Spinner Tommorow and will tell you what I think.



Thank you. But how did she win/lose to them? Like, what did she do that allowed her to win or lose?
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joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#644 Posted: 18:23:59 18/11/2012
^ Sirry about that:


Sprocket: Sprocket is slow, and also got hurt by the elemental damage. Sprocket couldn't get near Flashwing allowing her to be a victor.

S2 Double Trouble: Same as Sprocket, but at least he put up more of a fight.

Legendary Jet Vac: He nearly won but Flashwing was faster and ultimately was the victor

Legendary: Slam Bam: Her lighthouse saved her, it does rapid fire 21 damage and Slam bam just couldn't take it.

I accidentally put L-Ignitor here, he won.

Chill: Her Ice Blocks led to Flashwings downfall, they blocked anything that she could shoot.

S2 Gill Ggrungt: TOO FAST!!

S2 Hex: Bonr Crafter + Wow Pow = Unstoppableness.

Crusher: Believe it or not, his bulk allowed him to drop hi hammer on her many times.
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Bean Sprout Blue Sparx Gems: 893
#645 Posted: 18:26:56 18/11/2012
Thank you. So, it sounds like she can beat some slow characters, but she can't beat quicker characters.
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joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#646 Posted: 18:31:46 18/11/2012
Not all of them no. But she beat Jet Vac and he's pretty fast. I'll do more testin when I get the time.
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#647 Posted: 18:32:56 18/11/2012
Alright. But Jet Vac is pretty weak, so that doesn't surprise me.
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gillgrunt987 Diamond Sparx Gems: 7661
#648 Posted: 18:45:32 18/11/2012
Crusher beating flashwing is good as crusher is sssllllloooowwww. So she cant beat... ahh forget it.
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Dragon Master58 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1366
#649 Posted: 21:25:54 18/11/2012
EERRRRR MMAAAAA GGAAWDDDDD - camo on vine virtuoso is absolutely great!!!!! I reset him today to take that path, took me 7-8 hours to get him fully upgraded, all challenges from S:SA done AND gold rank! I actually prefer it to melon master now, it can cover so much ground and do so much damage!
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gillgrunt987 Diamond Sparx Gems: 7661
#650 Posted: 22:13:19 18/11/2012
I dont get it. You reset melon master camo to take melon master camo. Make sense will you?
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