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#1 Posted: 15:47:43 16/11/2012 | Topic Creator
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/20...ity-or-toy-box/

http://www.computerandvideogam...s-rival-report/

It was only a matter of time until another company will come up with toy-game model. Considering Disney's huge intellectual property including the newly acquired rights to Star wars, Disney might be Activision's biggest competition. Forget pokemon! Nintendo is probably still in denial with Skylanders.

The scary thing about Disney is (1) they've got the characters that are very well known, have a strong following and well rooted across a huge demographic and (2) they've got the money and they know how to market their product.

Disney has TV shows, a tv channel, movies, games and merchandise around all their IP's while Skylanders just has the 2 games and a couple of licensed merchandise. If this comes out by 2013 then Skylanders will have a direct competition for the 3rd game (I'm 99% sure we'll have a 3rd game!). Regardless of how good the Disney game will be a lot of people are guaranteed to simply get because it will have the Disney characters.
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#2 Posted: 16:04:12 16/11/2012
INFINITY!
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#3 Posted: 16:23:18 16/11/2012
i can't see flat discs catching on and having the collectability of actual figures.

hopefully the discs at this stage are just to prove the concept.

on a side note, epic mickey was such a disappointment i cannot even be bothered trying epic mickey 2
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#4 Posted: 16:36:02 16/11/2012
No wonder they bought star wars, and tried to buy hasbro. If they had hasbro the could make high quality star wars figures and make a skylanders type game. It all makes sense.
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#5 Posted: 16:44:52 16/11/2012
...Yeah, there's an issue with this. Skylanders worked well because there were only 2 characters that has been in anything but Skylanders; Spyro and Cynder. Apart from that we were introduced to a wide range of new and exciting characters that we'd never seen before and didn't know what to expect.

Because of this, there's a kind of attitude that says "Oh, that character looks nice - I might buy them." However there's an issue with Disney - everyone has seen the characters before, everyone knows the characters that they do and don't like so if you don't like a character. In this situation, there won't be any of that mystery in "Oh, I wonder what personality this character has?" or "I wonder how this character will play?".

I mean, it's obvious that Sully and Mr Incredible are gonna be brawlers and it's obvious that Jack Sparrow is gonna be a slice 'n' dice type of character ETC.

No mystery.

But, I think I'll laugh if they ever add Star Wars characters to it.
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#6 Posted: 16:49:41 16/11/2012
Yeah, I'm not buying it.
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#7 Posted: 16:52:46 16/11/2012
I don't even like Disney so... smilie;;; Not very exciting news. Skylanders > This crap, any day.
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#8 Posted: 16:54:46 16/11/2012
I have a feeling phineas and ferb will be sprocket-type characters, while agent p will be a brawler
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#9 Posted: 17:10:38 16/11/2012
They may be tokens now, but the money will be in collectable figures, just as it has been for Skylanders. If Disney makes a lineup of great looking toy figures instead of tokens, collectors will flock to them. They would have a massive character base to draw from. Can you imagine being Jack Sparrow battling it out on a Death Star?

I hope they include Kingdom Hearts.
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#10 Posted: 17:22:48 16/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: deantjeep
They may be tokens now, but the money will be in collectable figures, just as it has been for Skylanders. If Disney makes a lineup of great looking toy figures instead of tokens, collectors will flock to them. They would have a massive character base to draw from. Can you imagine being Jack Sparrow battling it out on a Death Star?

I hope they include Kingdom Hearts.


I want to see Darth Vader vs Cinderella! LOL

I think it might be a tough sell for die hard star wars collectible fans if this is going to be like a mixed world and genres type of game.
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#11 Posted: 17:33:26 16/11/2012
Disney also owns Marvel Comics and all of its properties. With the recent movie attention and the near infinite amount of characters and existing storylines.

If they use the skylander concept right it could be amazing
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#12 Posted: 17:46:53 16/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: ItsJustMe
Disney also owns Marvel Comics and all of its properties. With the recent movie attention and the near infinite amount of characters and existing storylines.

If they use the skylander concept right it could be amazing


I forgot about Marvel! LOL.

I think one thing Activision has going for them is they've got 2 games already out. If they stutter on innovation (Hello!? Online PVP please) then that could be it for this franchise!

Disney might has some patent or intellectual property issues with having figures work their game since obviously Activision owns the rights to the tech (I could be wrong). I think Disney's intellectual property is also too big to fit in one single game. An MMO game using the video game-toy model should be the right platform to cover all their franchises with the ability to expand on later franchises and properties.

Ex. They could release a game that starts with a couple of Disney worlds (latest and most popular franchises) and later expand it cover additional worlds.

The possibilities are endless and they've got the infrastructure in place to market and distribute it already.
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#13 Posted: 17:48:24 16/11/2012
Also, if they provide a four player experience or even online gaming, that could open up a lot of possibilities. The opportunity to combine different characters and use them in different worlds would be a lot of fun. Collecting the figures would be Infinity!
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#14 Posted: 17:52:45 16/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: deantjeep
Also, if they provide a four player experience or even online gaming, that could open up a lot of possibilities. The opportunity to combine different characters and use them in different worlds would be a lot of fun. Collecting the figures would be Infinity!


Correct! Just imagine a huge world containing all the Disney properties. Star wars, Toy Story, Marvel all showing up in one space. LOL!

Disney could also split it up into different games like one for SW, one for Marvel , etc. They could not only own one but a couple of games that directly compete with Skylanders.
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#15 Posted: 18:04:07 16/11/2012
Like game central station!

And they MUST make wreck to ralph
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#16 Posted: 18:57:53 16/11/2012
I think this would work extremely well if they have some sort of "joined" universe that Kingdom Hearts does very well. So like, you can go to all different locals and play with any character.

I can guarantee you this- I'll buy a Stitch figure any day of the week.
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#17 Posted: 19:03:21 16/11/2012
me want a Aladar token
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#18 Posted: 20:06:44 16/11/2012
Oh no..

DISNEY CHARACTERS OF THE MOUSE ELEMENT ARE STRONGER HERE!
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#19 Posted: 20:07:29 16/11/2012
I swear if they move up to figures agent p will be mine
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#20 Posted: 21:11:46 16/11/2012
so basically this is an expanded variation of what the disney universe game already does but with physical pieces added ?

http://disney.go.com/official-...-universe/index
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#21 Posted: 21:21:29 16/11/2012
this game should be epic. the possibilities could be limitless. and knowing my homies at disney...they can and will whore this thing out......just look at pin trading and vinylmation.

if its close to being the same quality as skylanders it will all but kill it.
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#22 Posted: 21:25:05 16/11/2012
to INFINITY.... and beyond?!! smilie
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#23 Posted: 21:34:57 16/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: gamecocksc17
this game should be epic. the possibilities could be limitless. and knowing my homies at disney...they can and will whore this thing out......just look at pin trading and vinylmation.

if its close to being the same quality as skylanders it will all but kill it.


The Disney collectors will go bonkers on this. I can just image the amount of exclusives and variants that will come out based on the number of IPs that they own. The cool thing about it is that it will ba part of the game so people won't only be collecting objects but they literally have pieces that they can use in a game.
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#24 Posted: 21:52:38 16/11/2012
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The coins allow modification of character attributes, and are placed under the character tokens. Coins are stackable, but bought blind, giving the game an immediate ‘trading’ aspect with kids able to swap coins they’ve already got with friends


Scalpers gonna scalp.
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#25 Posted: 22:04:38 16/11/2012
The last thing we need is Disney to be part of the Skylanders franchise....

Activision will do anything.......

Disney will do anything......
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#26 Posted: 22:07:47 16/11/2012
Quote: skyoutube
The last thing we need is Disney to be part of the Skylanders franchise....

Activision will do anything.......

Disney will do anything......



you forgot one thing.....

Disney will buy anything.....including Activision

Can't tell I'm a Disney Fanboy can ya??
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#27 Posted: 22:16:14 16/11/2012
Disney has a huge catalog of characters to work with. Ah, but imagine for a moment that the next Skylanders game returns to its Spyro roots and they make a game around the Spyro dragons and characters, Ignitus, Hunter, Sparx, Malefor. Now that would be an awesome game! Malefor returns and the dragons and dragonflies are in peril, Spyro and Cynder have to return to save their world, taking the Skylander characters with them to help in the fight. It is a dream that I have...
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#28 Posted: 22:24:17 16/11/2012
Disney HAS done everything!

THEY BOUGHT STAR WARS
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#29 Posted: 23:26:30 16/11/2012
*Sigh*

Oh Disney, when will you leave well enough alone? I won't be buying this. I stand by my promise to never spend another dime on Disney crap outside of movies, and even that is a stretch...nope I'm sticking to skylanders, thanks but no thanks...seriously NO THANKS!
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#30 Posted: 00:18:50 17/11/2012
Quote: deantjeep
Disney has a huge catalog of characters to work with. Ah, but imagine for a moment that the next Skylanders game returns to its Spyro roots and they make a game around the Spyro dragons and characters, Ignitus, Hunter, Sparx, Malefor. Now that would be an awesome game! Malefor returns and the dragons and dragonflies are in peril, Spyro and Cynder have to return to save their world, taking the Skylander characters with them to help in the fight. It is a dream that I have...



i will rather this
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#31 Posted: 01:32:13 17/11/2012
Unfortunately the brand will sell it and nothing else.
Disney Interactive as a whole hasn't been good since the 90's.

I shouldn't judge, maybe THIS TIME they're trying to make a quality game and try to repair the idea that "games based on movies are shovelware" that they relish in.

I will have my popcorn ready

and hope they remember Up exists
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#32 Posted: 01:59:29 17/11/2012
Quote: deantjeep
Disney has a huge catalog of characters to work with. Ah, but imagine for a moment that the next Skylanders game returns to its Spyro roots and they make a game around the Spyro dragons and characters, Ignitus, Hunter, Sparx, Malefor. Now that would be an awesome game! Malefor returns and the dragons and dragonflies are in peril, Spyro and Cynder have to return to save their world, taking the Skylander characters with them to help in the fight. It is a dream that I have...



^ YES this... I'm a huge fan of Disney and Pixar and I think using the plethora of characters from all sorts of genres and eras in the Disney empire would be ingenious!!! I can't wait to see how they create this incredible concept... I'm imagining a sort of Kingdom Hearts style of worlds with add-ons and extra packs left and right!! I really don't think Skylanders could compete with Disney unfortunately but Disney wouldn't just buy them out either!

I would LOOOVE to see a Spyro-rooted game with all the favs; Sparx, Malefor, Cynder.... Bringing it back to the roots would be EPIC in my opinion!! Just step back for a minute and think about how Skylanders and Activision took this risk on a huge investment... and changed this genre of gaming forever!!! I think many other offshoots like this will pop up in the next few years, but Disney could definitely push Skylanders into the shadows if they pull this off right!! This game's development will definitely be interesting to follow!! smilie
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#33 Posted: 02:03:44 17/11/2012
No this will not work THEY ARE IN BLIND PACKS
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#34 Posted: 02:07:29 17/11/2012 | Topic Creator
If they do it right they can make it future proof to handle any future IP's. Just imagine having a tie in to new movie releases and whatever new products they come up with. Ex. Limited Edition Marvel figure with DVD and Blu-Ray combo pack of the Marvel Movie. Limited Edition figure or some sort of arena with a newly released Movie.

The fact that they have products like movies and tv shows will open up endless possibilities with a game-toy model. Most characters are also well established and do not require Disney to create a back story for them. Just thinking of the Marvel IP's and you've got a never ending list of characters that can definitely make money using this model.

I still would like to see Darth Vader VS Cinderella LOL!
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#35 Posted: 02:36:36 17/11/2012
What if this is Kingdom Hearts 3 + star wars + marvel
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#36 Posted: 02:37:00 17/11/2012
I personally think this is a really dumb idea. Kingdom Hearts is only so good because of Square Enix's assistance in making it, I don't see them tag-teaming with Disney for this game. (If they do then wow cool)

But there's no real surprise with characters with this, and I wonder how Disney would handle the distribution, pricing, and overall design of this project. Will they copy Activision to a T with gameplay and design AND marketing or will they blunder about. Or will they overproduce figures and the game flops or under-produce and the game is a success.
How will the figures even add up? I've been hearing "Token" get thrown about a lot and all I think of is the character's face engraved on a coin, how lame. I really hope they make figures 'cause I would still pick up some Incredibles and Lion King ones haha.

I find it a tad funny how people are predicting Marvel and Star Wars into the mix, it makes me wonder what Disney's target audience will be for this if that's the case. With the clash of so many different movie universes I could see this being a Brawl Style Beat-em-up, since a story jumping from Star Wars to Marvel to Disney Princess would be rather..interesting.
I also wonder how they will incorporate the "Toys/Tokens coming to life on screen" and the "Portal (or whatever their calling theirs)" into their game story. It'd be pretty lame if the game had no explanation, the toys and portal are at least explained in Skylanders and give it it's own little charm.

I guess I shouldn't nitpick so much, we don't have a whole ton of information anyways. xD;
But hey, I'm a little optimistic for this, I'd love to see more companies try to tackle the "Skylanders Formula" so I hope Disney puts some actual effort into this, I actually want them to prove me wrong.
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#37 Posted: 02:51:43 17/11/2012
I might as well see how this unfolds
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#38 Posted: 03:16:49 17/11/2012
If they add The Nightmare Before Christmas to this and I'm all in lol
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#39 Posted: 03:22:11 17/11/2012
So we will get a competition between two epic games series.

If you like both, buy both and get double fun, if you like one just buy one, neither is gonna die off very soon so both will keep going for a while.

I don't see the issue with this.
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#40 Posted: 05:24:34 17/11/2012
Welcome to hell#2 everyone!
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#41 Posted: 07:50:56 17/11/2012
Honestly, I would be a huge sucker for this. I'm probably more of a Disney fan than anything else.
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#42 Posted: 08:50:34 17/11/2012
I'm not
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#43 Posted: 09:11:34 17/11/2012
I only got Skylanders cause of Spyro and Cynder so I wont be bothered getting this game. Even if the characters come to life im not going to get it.
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#44 Posted: 11:32:02 17/11/2012
I personally am a bit excited for this, pfft I guess it worked on me then. they better make stitch and related chars, there's no reason to.
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#45 Posted: 12:31:26 17/11/2012
skylanders will have to improve a lot in the next game if there going to have competition... in the next game there should at least be online play for levels ad pvp, it would make this forum so muchmore fun...
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#46 Posted: 12:49:13 17/11/2012
^ YESSS!! Online play for sure!!! I was kinda expecting that when the sequel was first announced and was disappointed when i heard they weren't doing that... i would love to have online play for the game!! smilie
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#47 Posted: 12:56:43 17/11/2012
Yeah, Skylanders 3 needs online if the franchise is to survive at all. Not that I wouldn't be fine just having another game, but we should have it anyway, and a lot of people would not buy it I think(I remember in the old days everyone was mentioning they would probably quit after Giants if they didn't add online to the third).
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#48 Posted: 15:36:54 17/11/2012
The idea of having tokens in blind packs sounds fine with me. It promotes trading and like someone has mentioned, distributing tokens with the movies is easier than distributing a figure.

Pros for token based game:
- Cheaper for the consumer
- Easier to take somewhere else
- Promotes trading and actual interaction
- Takes up less space

Cons:
- Not a lovely looking figure (but on another note tokens can look awesome if done properly)
- Blind packs
- May end up more expensive and a lot of wasted tokens if the consumer has no access to trades.

The benefits of it being Disney is that;

- It would not die off, thanks to their mountains of cash
- Could incorporate Disney Movie Rewards
- International image
- Plenty of fun and enjoyable characters

P.S I am very, VERY excited for this.
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#49 Posted: 03:29:51 18/11/2012
Wonder would would happen if Disney buys hasbro (Which they are thinking about buying) and then buys skylanders....

Re enactment:

Eon: Skylanders of the Tech Element are stronger in this zone...

Me: (Pulls Optimus Prime figure out...)
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#50 Posted: 03:30:42 18/11/2012
Go Twilight Sparkle!
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