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Why this should not be considered a Spyro game [CLOSED]
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#1 Posted: 00:14:41 08/02/2012 | Topic Creator
In 2003, a game called "Crash Nitro Kart" came out on the Gameboy Advance. It had about 19 playable characters, one of which was Spyro. I personally don't consider that game a Spyro game because the plot had nothing to do with Spyro, and he was only a minor character. I also don't see that game listed on this website at all.

Here comes along Skylanders Giants, and it is instantly considered a Spyro game even though there is no reason to believe that the plot will have anything to do with Spyro. As far as we know, he will only be a very minor playable character, and will make up an even smaller fraction of the total number of characters than he did in Crash Nitro Kart. I don't see why this is considered a Spyro game at all, if Crash Nitro Kart isn't.
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#2 Posted: 00:18:12 08/02/2012
I don't think it ever was meant to be a Spyro game. Take a look at Smash Bros. It's not a Pokemon game, it's not a Mario game, it's not a Kirby, Zelda or Metroid game.

It's a Smash Bros. game. This is a Skylanders game.

But to me, it blurs the line between what something is. Think of it as an alternate universe, or an expansion to the Spyroverse.
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#3 Posted: 00:20:50 08/02/2012
Quote: spyroflame0487
I don't think it ever was meant to be a Spyro game. Take a look at Smash Bros. It's not a Pokemon game, it's not a Mario game, it's not a Kirby, Zelda or Metroid game.

It's a Smash Bros. game. This is a Skylanders game.

But to me, it blurs the line between what something is. Think of it as an alternate universe, or an expansion to the Spyroverse.



You need to make this your sig when people start to get hysterical about the spyro purity debate...well put.
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#4 Posted: 00:31:27 08/02/2012
I just think the series is a little past it's glory days.
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#5 Posted: 02:43:24 08/02/2012
Why should I care if it's technically not a Spyro game?
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#6 Posted: 12:49:43 08/02/2012
Quote: Himewad
Why should I care if it's technically not a Spyro game?


What you should say is "Why should I care? It is a Flynn game - it is all about me!"
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#7 Posted: 17:14:54 08/02/2012
Quote: Zpyro
Here comes along Skylanders Giants, and it is instantly considered a Spyro game even though there is no reason to believe that the plot will have anything to do with Spyro. As far as we know, he will only be a very minor playable character, and will make up an even smaller fraction of the total number of characters than he did in Crash Nitro Kart. I don't see why this is considered a Spyro game at all, if Crash Nitro Kart isn't.


Who considers this as a Spyro game?
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#8 Posted: 17:31:10 08/02/2012
I assume this topic was made due to the fact Skylanders Giants is listed on this site. But as the front page says, this site is no longer just a Spyro fansite, but also a Skylanders fansite.
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#9 Posted: 17:32:51 08/02/2012
The site tagline had Skylanders along with Spyro for a while now.

'darkSpyro - A Spyro the Dragon and Skylanders Fansite'
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#10 Posted: 18:53:19 08/02/2012
In the selection bar of Spyro games, Skylanders: Giants does NOT have Spyro's face in the background.
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#11 Posted: 18:54:11 08/02/2012
That's dark52's work, Steve...
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#12 Posted: 18:59:52 08/02/2012
...and why Crash Nitro Kart should be compared with Skylanders? It's a game from the Crash Bandicoot's franchise with Spyro making a cameo as a playable character.
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#13 Posted: 20:12:02 08/02/2012
I consider it a Spyro game because the gameplay has a lot of similarities.
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#14 Posted: 20:49:35 08/02/2012
I love Crash Nitro Cart. When I saw spyro in it, I thought that it was a mistake and only my version of the game had spyro in it.
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#15 Posted: 18:49:30 10/02/2012
Quote: SteveW
I consider it a Spyro game because the gameplay has a lot of similarities.



As long as the 3DS version of Giants is a platformer like Spyro's Adventure was
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#16 Posted: 19:25:33 10/02/2012
For me is it a Spyro game.
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#17 Posted: 22:46:59 10/02/2012
For me it's not a Spyro game, it's a Skylanders game. It's Activision's game. LOL
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#18 Posted: 23:10:32 10/02/2012
Nobody is claiming this one to be a Spyro game, but as for whether or not Spyro and Skylanders are forever going to be linked in some way, the answer is, of course, yes. It's different than his one-off appearance in Crash Nitro Kart, because the figures are forwards-compatible; therefore, Spryo will be in Giants, and whether you consider it a cameo or a continuance of Spyro mythology is up to you. As far as I know, nobody has stated that this is anything other than a Skylanders game.
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#19 Posted: 00:50:01 11/02/2012
The fact that they're remodeling Spyro characters, and that original Skylanders characters will be able to be used, I think it is kinda a Spyro game and kinda not. I don't know though. smilie
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#20 Posted: 01:29:18 11/02/2012
Quote: The_dragonborn
The fact that they're remodeling Spyro characters, and that original Skylanders characters will be able to be used, I think it is kinda a Spyro game and kinda not. I don't know though. smilie



Yeah..I think you are right.
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#21 Posted: 01:58:29 11/02/2012
Quote: XSparxX
Quote: The_dragonborn
The fact that they're remodeling Spyro characters, and that original Skylanders characters will be able to be used, I think it is kinda a Spyro game and kinda not. I don't know though. smilie



Yeah..I think you are right.


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#22 Posted: 03:15:05 11/02/2012
It's a game. I don't care if Spyro is in it or not. You can consider it whatever you want to consider it.
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#23 Posted: 08:27:25 11/02/2012
I think it's funny they even used Spyro at all since a lot of Spyro fans hated this game in the beginning and most of the kids buying the figs. have never heard of Spyro and Cynder outside of the game...smilie.
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#24 Posted: 08:52:23 11/02/2012
Quote: StevemacQ
In the selection bar of Spyro games, Skylanders: Giants does NOT have Spyro's face in the background.


Well there is no clear picture's of him in this game yet...
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#25 Posted: 10:14:36 11/02/2012
Quote: Tigorus
I think it's funny they even used Spyro at all since a lot of Spyro fans hated this game in the beginning and most of the kids buying the figs. have never heard of Spyro and Cynder outside of the game...smilie.



That's because those kids don't know any different, and it's just brand new to them.
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#26 Posted: 17:51:35 11/02/2012
Quote: SuperSpyroFan
Quote: Tigorus
I think it's funny they even used Spyro at all since a lot of Spyro fans hated this game in the beginning and most of the kids buying the figs. have never heard of Spyro and Cynder outside of the game...smilie.



That's because those kids don't know any different, and it's just brand new to them.


Exactly. I think it was more of an investors wanting a somewhat established franchise with SOME brand recognition. They didn't want Skylanders to be a completely unknown franchise. I think this franchise is great and could maybe see other franchise crossovers....maybe.
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#27 Posted: 20:34:55 11/02/2012
Quote: Tigorus
Quote: SuperSpyroFan
Quote: Tigorus
I think it's funny they even used Spyro at all since a lot of Spyro fans hated this game in the beginning and most of the kids buying the figs. have never heard of Spyro and Cynder outside of the game...smilie.



That's because those kids don't know any different, and it's just brand new to them.


Exactly. I think it was more of an investors wanting a somewhat established franchise with SOME brand recognition. They didn't want Skylanders to be a completely unknown franchise. I think this franchise is great and could maybe see other franchise crossovers....maybe.


I'm pretty sure it would still do very well if it was a stand alone franchise, it nearly is a stand alone franchise.
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#28 Posted: 20:38:50 11/02/2012
The next game doesn't even have Spyro's name in the title, and Spyro had no individual lines in the newest trailer.

I think it's already a stand alone franchise. But hey, at least it isn't like Raving Rabbids, where Rayman and his references pretty much disappeared entirely.
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#29 Posted: 20:40:52 11/02/2012
Quote: SilentButDeadly
The next game doesn't even have Spyro's name in the title, and Spyro had no individual lines in the newest trailer.

I think it's already a stand alone franchise. But hey, at least it isn't like Raving Rabbids, where Rayman and his references pretty much disappeared entirely.



I've never really liked Rayman to be honest.
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#30 Posted: 21:25:02 11/02/2012
Wow you guys have problems...

It's a Spyro game or a game with Spyro. It has more classic Spyro in it as TLOS. For me was/is Skylanders more a Spyro game as the TLOS trilogy ever was.
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#31 Posted: 22:01:45 11/02/2012
Quote: XSparxX
Wow you guys have problems...

It's a Spyro game or a game with Spyro. It has more classic Spyro in it as TLOS. For me was/is Skylanders more a Spyro game as the TLOS trilogy ever was.



@ bold: This shows me that you just can't take a different opinion once again, so perhaps you have a problem? I actually think that LoS had more reference to Spyro really. Only because it seemed to be based around him more so. Skylanders isn't specifically based around him as much.
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#32 Posted: 22:51:28 12/02/2012
Quote: SuperSpyroFan

I've never really liked Rayman to be honest.


You make Rayman sad

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#33 Posted: 23:00:40 12/02/2012
Quote: D-Rex
Quote: SuperSpyroFan

I've never really liked Rayman to be honest.


You make Rayman sad

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I'll just get Spyro to flame all over him, he'll be sad then.
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#34 Posted: 02:45:05 13/02/2012
it's spyrolanders!!!
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#35 Posted: 10:57:48 13/02/2012
Quote: PortalMaster
it's spyrolanders!!!



It's that where all the three Spyro's come and land down?
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#36 Posted: 19:15:58 13/02/2012
guy it's dosen't matter what it's because it a epic game
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#37 Posted: 03:44:56 23/09/2012
I will not get this game. I will not waste another cent of my money on a skylanders game ever again. Other people can if they want. This will never be a real Spyro game to me. (sorry if I sound mean, this is just my opinion)
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#38 Posted: 04:23:08 23/09/2012
It's not a Spyro game. I never played classic Spyro but I can tell it's not really the same.
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#39 Posted: 05:34:59 23/09/2012
Giants is about as much a Spyro game as Diddy Kong Racing is a Conkur game.
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#40 Posted: 10:52:48 23/09/2012
a) There are REALLY still people whining about this?
b) Skylanders is a spin-off, and despite what Toys For Bob and Activision were initially saying, Spyro isn't the main character. The Skylanders are the main characters of this spin-off called SKYLANDERS, with Spyro's name just being in the subtitle. You don't see people crying about how Cloud wasn't the main character of Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo Tales.
c) Spyro was only able to survive the PS1 era because 3D gameplay was new and cool at the time. By today's standards the Spyro games are mediocre at best, and haven't aged well. There is a very good reason Spyro didn't stay successful and needed something to re-invent the franchise, and like it or not, Skylanders is probably the most successful thing Spyro has ever been attached to.

Now can we PLEASE stop whining about Skylanders not being a Spyro game? It isn't a Spyro game, and was never meant to be one.
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#41 Posted: 11:05:11 23/09/2012
Quote: Rays
I love Crash Nitro Cart. When I saw spyro in it, I thought that it was a mistake and only my version of the game had spyro in it.



You must have been very young.
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#42 Posted: 15:03:29 23/09/2012
I loved Crash Nitro Kart and was ecstatic to get Spyro. The only character I lack in that game is N-Trophy.

But IMO, S:SA wasn't a Spyro game either. I don't know why people think it is(LOOKING AT YOU, SPYRO WIKIsmilie).
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#43 Posted: 16:40:28 23/09/2012
Quote: DinoHex
You don't see people crying about how Cloud wasn't the main character of Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo Tales.


This makes no sense.

a) Cloud is not the mascot of the Final Fantasy series.
b) Chocobos appeared well before FF7.
c) FF7 came out in 1997, Chocobo Tales came out 9 years later.
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#44 Posted: 16:46:41 23/09/2012
^This!!!

Skylanders IS A Spyro game.

Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo games, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Theatrythm Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy Tactics, 4 Warriors of Light: Final Fantasy etc are spin-offs too, but they are still Final Fantasy games.
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#45 Posted: 16:52:41 23/09/2012
Quote: DinoHex
a) There are REALLY still people whining about this?
b) Skylanders is a spin-off, and despite what Toys For Bob and Activision were initially saying, Spyro isn't the main character. The Skylanders are the main characters of this spin-off called SKYLANDERS, with Spyro's name just being in the subtitle. You don't see people crying about how Cloud wasn't the main character of Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo Tales.
c) Spyro was only able to survive the PS1 era because 3D gameplay was new and cool at the time. By today's standards the Spyro games are mediocre at best, and haven't aged well. There is a very good reason Spyro didn't stay successful and needed something to re-invent the franchise, and like it or not, Skylanders is probably the most successful thing Spyro has ever been attached to.

Now can we PLEASE stop whining about Skylanders not being a Spyro game? It isn't a Spyro game, and was never meant to be one.


AmazingSpyro bumped this 7-month old topic...
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#46 Posted: 17:51:33 23/09/2012
its an amazing post bump... the troll is strong in this one, lol...
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#47 Posted: 18:10:55 23/09/2012
God,I had to read Aura's post to realize this topic is that old...Oh well. I still think this game is more of a spin-off or,like the second poster said,a bit in between a spinoff and another series completely,like SSBB. This place has so much from the old games and at the same time so little,and has the tie-in with the Classic triology as Machine of Doom confirmed - Spyro was in Avalar at the time he was recruited,long after the games. No matter how much people whine,just because this game has ties with the old ones,doesn't mean it's tainting them. It's a real Spyro game,just not on the main storyline.Just like the war between LOS,classic and Skylanders fans,this is as unecessary as it can be.
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#48 Posted: 19:04:31 23/09/2012
Quote: XSparxX
^This!!!

Skylanders IS A Spyro game.

Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo games, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Theatrythm Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy Tactics, 4 Warriors of Light: Final Fantasy etc are spin-offs too, but they are still Final Fantasy games.


You can't compare Final Fantasy to Spyro AT ALL. Every FF has different characters and a different story.
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#49 Posted: 19:08:10 23/09/2012
Quote: Nibelilt
I loved Crash Nitro Kart and was ecstatic to get Spyro. The only character I lack in that game is N-Trophy.

But IMO, S:SA wasn't a Spyro game either. I don't know why people think it is(LOOKING AT YOU, SPYRO WIKIsmilie).


Heh heh, you unlock him by beating the game with Evil Team.

Anyway, Yes, S:SA is not a Spyro game, just a spin-off.
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#50 Posted: 19:15:20 23/09/2012
Okay so here what I think Spyro is its own series and Skylanders is its own series
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