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I think no religious topics/posts should be a new rule. [CLOSED]
DarkCynder10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3346
#1 Posted: 23:11:31 11/01/2011 | Topic Creator
OK, I've been seeing a LOT of spamming and fighting in these topics, and even in GBs, and they need to stop. I think Christians should zip it about their religion and hate for atheists, and atheists should zip it with the hating Christians, and joking about religion. It's all getting out of hand! In RPs, GBs, topics, posts, and, from what I hear, even PMs. It's all stupid, and worthless. So I suggest it becomes a rule to not mention ANY of this stuff. It can really hurt people.

Anybody else agrees? (Don't flame me for this, guys. I'm not on either side at this rate, I'm only trying to keep things from falling apart.)
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#2 Posted: 23:20:51 11/01/2011
First hurdle is to get dark52 to speak up. There were many complaints filed against this, but so far he's mute.
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#3 Posted: 23:25:21 11/01/2011 | Topic Creator
Baww... Well, he's on now, so we'll see if any comments come from him.
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Stormy Gold Sparx Gems: 2624
#4 Posted: 02:18:59 12/01/2011
I'm getting closer and closer to agreeing with this every day. As I said before, it's great that we all have the privilege to talk about this stuff, but certain people are abusing the privilege. I still think it would be way better if we could just get some stronger enforcement against trolling instead.
crazyspyrofan Yellow Sparx Gems: 1042
#5 Posted: 05:23:38 12/01/2011
Quote: Stormy
I'm getting closer and closer to agreeing with this every day. As I said before, it's great that we all have the privilege to talk about this stuff, but certain people are abusing the privilege. I still think it would be way better if we could just get some stronger enforcement against trolling instead.



Agreed with this.
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Adria Emerald Sparx Gems: 4196
#6 Posted: 05:29:01 12/01/2011
While I do agree with this, simply banning it from being mentioned won't stop the fights. People will still bring it up because they like to start things and unknowingly, or fully aware of it who knows with people on here, flame baiting their posts with it.

Just really saying that even if it is banned people will still go around it to talk about it for the heck of it just like people go around the other rules on the forum. It's a good idea but even if it is enforced it won't hold up.
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GamingMaster_76 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1271
#7 Posted: 05:35:20 12/01/2011
Quote: crazyspyrofan
Quote: Stormy
I'm getting closer and closer to agreeing with this every day. As I said before, it's great that we all have the privilege to talk about this stuff, but certain people are abusing the privilege. I still think it would be way better if we could just get some stronger enforcement against trolling instead.



Agreed with this.


Ditto.
bmah Platinum Sparx Gems: 5676
#8 Posted: 07:31:23 12/01/2011
Quote: Adria
While I do agree with this, simply banning it from being mentioned won't stop the fights. People will still bring it up because they like to start things and unknowingly, or fully aware of it who knows with people on here, flame baiting their posts with it.

Just really saying that even if it is banned people will still go around it to talk about it for the heck of it just like people go around the other rules on the forum. It's a good idea but even if it is enforced it won't hold up.


Yeah, I agree with this, but the least we can do is to discourage this sort of behavior.
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#9 Posted: 16:22:08 12/01/2011
Agreement with OP
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#10 Posted: 19:40:57 12/01/2011
Quote: DarkCynder10
OK, I've been seeing a LOT of spamming and fighting in these topics, and even in GBs, and they need to stop. I think Christians should zip it about their religion and hate for atheists, and atheists should zip it with the hating Christians, and joking about religion. It's all getting out of hand! In RPs, GBs, topics, posts, and, from what I hear, even PMs. It's all stupid, and worthless. So I suggest it becomes a rule to not mention ANY of this stuff. It can really hurt people.

Anybody else agrees? (Don't flame me for this, guys. I'm not on either side at this rate, I'm only trying to keep things from falling apart.)



I agree with you completely, it doesn't really need to be brought up, even in my college, you're not supposed to talk about religion, or persuade anyone to like religion, a teacher was telling me that it's actually against the rules.
Phantom Platinum Sparx Gems: 5268
#11 Posted: 19:48:37 12/01/2011
Whose business is it if anyone wants to worship a spoon or a duck or just plain god? Does it really matter? I'm glad I don't have an obsession that takes over my life ... Oh, right smilie.
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#12 Posted: 20:10:11 12/01/2011
As Stormy said though, It would be better if we could just ban all of the trolling instead. I think everyone should have the right to talk about their beleifs. So maybe if we just made a rule that you can't post anything offensive, Christians and Athiests could both exist in peace on this site.
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#13 Posted: 04:59:54 13/01/2011
Spoon religion=spoonerism rofl !
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#14 Posted: 10:12:24 13/01/2011
Quote: crazyspyrofan
As Stormy said though, It would be better if we could just ban all of the trolling instead. I think everyone should have the right to talk about their beleifs. So maybe if we just made a rule that you can't post anything offensive, Christians and Athiests could both exist in peace on this site.



I kind of don't agree with you, I don't think that it should be encouraged as it could lead to arguements and people getting upset, so really it's not worth talking about.
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#15 Posted: 11:40:38 13/01/2011
Quote: crazyspyrofan
As Stormy said though, It would be better if we could just ban all of the trolling instead. I think everyone should have the right to talk about their beleifs. So maybe if we just made a rule that you can't post anything offensive, Christians and Athiests could both exist in peace on this site.


Yeah, but arguments break out even without the trolls. When Athiests don't agree with Christians, and vice-versa.
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#16 Posted: 23:19:35 13/01/2011
I don't think there is anything wrong with arguments so long as both parties are respectful.
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#17 Posted: 23:20:34 13/01/2011
Quote: Stormy
I don't think there is anything wrong with arguments so long as both parties are respectful.



There's the problem, neither will be.
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Stormy Gold Sparx Gems: 2624
#18 Posted: 01:11:00 14/01/2011
Yep, which is why I suggested stronger regulation against trolling. Although, realistically, that will never happen seeing as there are no mods. :P
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#19 Posted: 01:15:11 14/01/2011
Quote: Stormy
Yep, which is why I suggested stronger regulation against trolling. Although, realistically, that will never happen seeing as there are no mods. smilie



Yeah, the same pesimistic opinion here.
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crazyspyrofan Yellow Sparx Gems: 1042
#20 Posted: 02:27:29 14/01/2011
Quote: SuperSpyroFan
Quote: crazyspyrofan
As Stormy said though, It would be better if we could just ban all of the trolling instead. I think everyone should have the right to talk about their beleifs. So maybe if we just made a rule that you can't post anything offensive, Christians and Athiests could both exist in peace on this site.



I kind of don't agree with you, I don't think that it should be encouraged as it could lead to arguements and people getting upset, so really it's not worth talking about.



What's wrong with simply posting that you are Christian or that you are Athiest?I don't think anyone would get upset if we didn't flame and bash each other.
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#21 Posted: 02:39:35 14/01/2011
Quote: crazyspyrofan
Quote: SuperSpyroFan
Quote: crazyspyrofan
As Stormy said though, It would be better if we could just ban all of the trolling instead. I think everyone should have the right to talk about their beleifs. So maybe if we just made a rule that you can't post anything offensive, Christians and Athiests could both exist in peace on this site.



I kind of don't agree with you, I don't think that it should be encouraged as it could lead to arguements and people getting upset, so really it's not worth talking about.



What's wrong with simply posting that you are Christian or that you are Athiest?I don't think anyone would get upset if we didn't flame and bash each other.


Just stating your religion is enough for some users to start.
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#22 Posted: 03:31:26 14/01/2011
Quote: Cynder_fan
Quote: crazyspyrofan
Quote: SuperSpyroFan



I kind of don't agree with you, I don't think that it should be encouraged as it could lead to arguements and people getting upset, so really it's not worth talking about.



What's wrong with simply posting that you are Christian or that you are Athiest?I don't think anyone would get upset if we didn't flame and bash each other.


Just stating your religion is enough for some users to start.



I know. That's why we should put rules up against flaming, but I guess rules are useless with no mods to enforce them.
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Cynder_fan Gold Sparx Gems: 2683
#23 Posted: 12:24:03 14/01/2011
Quote: crazyspyrofan
Quote: Cynder_fan
Quote: crazyspyrofan



What's wrong with simply posting that you are Christian or that you are Athiest?I don't think anyone would get upset if we didn't flame and bash each other.


Just stating your religion is enough for some users to start.



I know. That's why we should put rules up against flaming, but I guess rules are useless with no mods to enforce them.


Even with enforcement, they are bound to happen.
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#24 Posted: 17:29:16 14/01/2011
the point is to reduce the amount of religious topics that can penetrate any good thread

we're talking realistically here, so "elimination" isn't the right word
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#25 Posted: 03:32:24 16/01/2011 | Topic Creator
I think dark52 is ignoring this topic...
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Malefor0001 Gold Sparx Gems: 2365
#26 Posted: 09:48:59 16/01/2011
I personally feel its okay to state your beliefs, for example "I am a Christian/ Atheist" but not take it to far such as; "You will burn in Hell forever" or something like that. And the problem is there are Extremists on the site who would offend anybody to get their beliefs across. For example, the recent "homophobe" case... That ended in tears.
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#27 Posted: 09:51:42 16/01/2011
Yes, but the problem is that even if you just state your religion, arguments and rivalries will start due to the lack of moderators.
Malefor0001 Gold Sparx Gems: 2365
#28 Posted: 09:57:18 16/01/2011
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Yes, but the problem is that even if you just state your religion, arguments and rivalries will start due to the lack of moderators.


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...
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#29 Posted: 09:59:11 16/01/2011
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Yes, but the problem is that even if you just state your religion, arguments and rivalries will start due to the lack of moderators.


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...


The furthest it should go is just in your announcement.
Malefor0001 Gold Sparx Gems: 2365
#30 Posted: 10:04:07 16/01/2011
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Yes, but the problem is that even if you just state your religion, arguments and rivalries will start due to the lack of moderators.


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...


The furthest it should go is just in your announcement.



Exactly, because Guestbooks are your personal space, you you can technically have your veiws there at the least, as long as they don't go too far.

Also what helps these arguments is the amount of Extremists who are trying to convert other Users. That helps alot (!)
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#31 Posted: 14:35:45 16/01/2011
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Yes, but the problem is that even if you just state your religion, arguments and rivalries will start due to the lack of moderators.


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...



Neither is stating that you're a homosexual and that you don't believe in Jesus.
Malefor0001 Gold Sparx Gems: 2365
#32 Posted: 15:00:58 16/01/2011
Quote: torok
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Yes, but the problem is that even if you just state your religion, arguments and rivalries will start due to the lack of moderators.


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...



Neither is stating that you're a homosexual and that you don't believe in Jesus.


Please don't involve homosexuality.
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#33 Posted: 15:13:00 16/01/2011
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: torok
Quote: Malefor0001


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...



Neither is stating that you're a homosexual and that you don't believe in Jesus.


Please don't involve homosexuality.



fine.
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#34 Posted: 15:15:36 16/01/2011
The topic is likely to get violent if we involve it.
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#35 Posted: 16:01:03 16/01/2011
Quote: torok
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Yes, but the problem is that even if you just state your religion, arguments and rivalries will start due to the lack of moderators.


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...



Neither is stating that you're a homosexual and that you don't believe in Jesus.



Why should we not say? Freedom of Speach. However you shouldn't mention it now because ultimatly you know it will lead to fighting and flaming.
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#36 Posted: 16:14:55 16/01/2011
Quote: Cynder_fan
Quote: torok
Quote: Malefor0001


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...



Neither is stating that you're a homosexual and that you don't believe in Jesus.



Why should we not say? Freedom of Speach. However you shouldn't mention it now because ultimatly you know it will lead to fighting and flaming.


I was pretty sure most of the users were tolerent of homosexuality/ bisexuality... even the ones that saw it wrong.
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#37 Posted: 21:59:31 16/01/2011
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: Cynder_fan
Quote: torok



Neither is stating that you're a homosexual and that you don't believe in Jesus.



Why should we not say? Freedom of Speach. However you shouldn't mention it now because ultimatly you know it will lead to fighting and flaming.


I was pretty sure most of the users were tolerent of homosexuality/ bisexuality... even the ones that saw it wrong.



I still stick by my suggestion to only ban the users who intentionally make offensive posts. It's not that hard to state your beleifs without offending others. I've seen Christian users get too extreme trying to convert people, and on the other hand, I've seen Athiests saying offensive things just to make Christians mad, and starting fights. Everyone who is doing that should stop so we can have peace. That's just my opinion though.
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DarkCynder10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3346
#38 Posted: 22:56:57 16/01/2011 | Topic Creator
Quote: crazyspyrofan
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: Cynder_fan



Why should we not say? Freedom of Speach. However you shouldn't mention it now because ultimatly you know it will lead to fighting and flaming.


I was pretty sure most of the users were tolerent of homosexuality/ bisexuality... even the ones that saw it wrong.



I still stick by my suggestion to only ban the users who intentionally make offensive posts. It's not that hard to state your beleifs without offending others. I've seen Christian users get too extreme trying to convert people, and on the other hand, I've seen Athiests saying offensive things just to make Christians mad, and starting fights. Everyone who is doing that should stop so we can have peace. That's just my opinion though.



I've had that happen TWICE in my GB. -.-'
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crazyspyrofan Yellow Sparx Gems: 1042
#39 Posted: 22:58:57 16/01/2011
Quote: DarkCynder10
Quote: crazyspyrofan
Quote: Malefor0001


I was pretty sure most of the users were tolerent of homosexuality/ bisexuality... even the ones that saw it wrong.



I still stick by my suggestion to only ban the users who intentionally make offensive posts. It's not that hard to state your beleifs without offending others. I've seen Christian users get too extreme trying to convert people, and on the other hand, I've seen Athiests saying offensive things just to make Christians mad, and starting fights. Everyone who is doing that should stop so we can have peace. That's just my opinion though.



I've had that happen TWICE in my GB. -.-'



I've never had it happen in my GB before, but I have seen sigs and topics that just ask for a flame war.
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DarkCynder10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3346
#40 Posted: 00:11:45 17/01/2011 | Topic Creator
Quote: crazyspyrofan
Quote: DarkCynder10
Quote: crazyspyrofan



I still stick by my suggestion to only ban the users who intentionally make offensive posts. It's not that hard to state your beleifs without offending others. I've seen Christian users get too extreme trying to convert people, and on the other hand, I've seen Athiests saying offensive things just to make Christians mad, and starting fights. Everyone who is doing that should stop so we can have peace. That's just my opinion though.



I've had that happen TWICE in my GB. -.-'



I've never had it happen in my GB before, but I have seen sigs and topics that just ask for a flame war.



I never even mention my religion that much. :B
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Phantom Platinum Sparx Gems: 5268
#41 Posted: 04:34:10 17/01/2011
Speaking of which, apparently I'm not allowed to pick my religion.
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torok Platinum Sparx Gems: 6142
#42 Posted: 12:14:26 17/01/2011
Quote: Phantom
Speaking of which, apparently I'm not allowed to pick my religion.



Why not?
Malefor0001 Gold Sparx Gems: 2365
#43 Posted: 16:00:43 17/01/2011
Quote: crazyspyrofan
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: Cynder_fan



Why should we not say? Freedom of Speach. However you shouldn't mention it now because ultimatly you know it will lead to fighting and flaming.


I was pretty sure most of the users were tolerent of homosexuality/ bisexuality... even the ones that saw it wrong.



I still stick by my suggestion to only ban the users who intentionally make offensive posts. It's not that hard to state your beleifs without offending others. I've seen Christian users get too extreme trying to convert people, and on the other hand, I've seen Athiests saying offensive things just to make Christians mad, and starting fights. Everyone who is doing that should stop so we can have peace. That's just my opinion though.


TBH, I only get offensive if somebody offends my sexuality or beliefs, being Atheist. If it were peace, that'd be lovely.

Quote: Phantom
Speaking of which, apparently I'm not allowed to pick my religion.


As torok said, why not?
I thought everybody had a choice nowadadys.
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#44 Posted: 03:21:12 18/01/2011
Quote: torok
Quote: Phantom
Speaking of which, apparently I'm not allowed to pick my religion.



Why not?

I'm too young apparently.
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#45 Posted: 03:52:24 18/01/2011 | Topic Creator
So, you're neither Atheist or Christian?
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torok Platinum Sparx Gems: 6142
#46 Posted: 13:00:09 18/01/2011
Quote: Phantom
Quote: torok
Quote: Phantom
Speaking of which, apparently I'm not allowed to pick my religion.



Why not?

I'm too young apparently.



Who the heck told you something as ridiculous as that?
Malefor0001 Gold Sparx Gems: 2365
#47 Posted: 16:53:54 18/01/2011
Quote: torok
Quote: Phantom
Quote: torok



Why not?

I'm too young apparently.



Who the heck told you something as ridiculous as that?


Yeah, thats BS, how does that work?
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#48 Posted: 19:32:36 18/01/2011
My mom. While one side of my family forces me into religion, the other forces me out. I just wanna be Hindu, not lutherin or nothing.
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#49 Posted: 21:02:06 18/01/2011
You can't truly be forced into a religion. You can pretend to be of a certain religion yet be another, I do it all the time.

Quote: torok
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Yes, but the problem is that even if you just state your religion, arguments and rivalries will start due to the lack of moderators.


No, I meant state your religion on your Guestbook... Really theres no need for the stuff to be on forums...



Neither is stating that you're a homosexual and that you don't believe in Jesus.



Stating your homosexual and aren't religious isn't nearly as bad as telling someone to go to hell.
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#50 Posted: 22:58:30 18/01/2011 | Topic Creator
I sense another religion war...
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