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Actually, if you look at all the scores from TLOS, all three games only scored as high as A Hero's Tail. ANB scored around the same (maybe a little higher), but TEN and DOTD scored lower than AHT. I don't think TLOS did as well as people are claiming.... And I've seen some pretty nasty reviews for DOTD and TEN.

@DarkCynder_543: Reviews are not to be trusted nowadays anyway, especially with games like Spyro. Case in point:
Gamespot gave Sonic Unleashed(360/PS3) a lower score than Sonic 06.
IGN gave TEN a lower score than ETD.

As for the Cynder plushie, you also have to worry about the amount of "destroy Cynder plushie" videos that would pop up.
And I was kind of making a joke in the first place!
In all honesty, what other people do to their plushies is their business. I would only care about what I do to it!
Might end up ripping off one of the limbs.....like I did with my Knuckles plushie....and my Spyro plushie....

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@DarkCynder_543: Reviews are not to be trusted nowadays anyway, especially with games like Spyro. Case in point:
Gamespot gave Sonic Unleashed(360/PS3) a lower score than Sonic 06.
IGN gave TEN a lower score than ETD.

But you bring them up still.....?

Anyway, to be honest, ETD was more fun than TEN overall. Gamerankings.com has the most appropriate rankings though. I tend to agree with all the average scores games get.

I don't think it really matters on game rankings, if you're going to like the game, then you'll like it, and if not, then you won't, simple as.

Yeah, that is true. I use them sometimes when I'm curious on what a game received, or if I'm considering buying a game that doesn't look too good.

If I'm curious about a game and I'm not sure whether to buy it, I wait between two to three years for the price to go down, then I'll buy it, so then I won't be really upset if I find that I hate it.

I brought up reviews as it is they show how well the game was received. Doesn't mean I agree with them though. Reviewers are people with opinions, just like you and me. Most reviewers don't even do their job like a professional any more. Instead, they go into a fanboy rant a lot of the time. Reviewers say AHT was mediocre, I say it was awesome!

Also, back in the days of Classic Spyro, reviewers were a hell of a lot less biased, and were actually trustworthy IMO. Nowadays, it's only shooters, Mario games, stuff like Guitar Hero and indie games that get 9s and 10s. (In general, that is)

How I decide to get a game? If it's part of a series I'm into, I am immediatly interested. Otherwise, I just find out about the game's concept. Also, I will occasionally get a game at random!

Critics have their opinions. You do as well. Don't always listen to the critics, because then you become a mindless robot that only plays shooters because that's what the critics give good reviews for. You have your own mind. If you want to try out a game even though everybody says it sucks, then do so. That's how I tried out Sonic 06. I heard the bad reviews, but I still wanted to try it. It's also how I tried out Timeshift. It had lackluster reviews, but I tried it, and I think it's good.

When it comes to average reviews, I tend to follow Metacritic.

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As for the Cynder plushie, you also have to worry about the amount of "destroy Cynder plushie" videos that would pop up.
And I was kind of making a joke in the first place!
In all honesty, what other people do to their plushies is their business. I would only care about what I do to it!
Might end up ripping off one of the limbs.....like I did with my Knuckles plushie....and my Spyro plushie....

Not really a "destroy Cynder plushie" video, since those exist for all plushies. If I had a nickel for every Spongebob plushie that was destroyed. I was talking more along the lines of what the furries would do to it, which would indeed frighten you...

If I got a Cynder plushie, I would treat it like a plushie. Place it somewhere, toss it up and catch it, throw it around. Everything that a normal person would do to a plushie.

My Knuckles plushie is still intact. Granted it's old, but still intact.

And I wish I had a Spyro plushie. Let me check Amazon.

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Anyway, to be honest, ETD was more fun than TEN overall.

I highly disagree. TEN was hard, and you would get cheap deaths due to some camera and gameplay issues, but ETD was unplayable because of all the glitches and other problems it had.

Nah, stuff that furries do doesn't frighten me at all. They do what they do, I do what I do.

I would throw it up at the fan light in my bathroom and then she would be sent flying!!!

My one lost a leg! The Tails one is fine though!

TEN was hard, but the good kind of hard. There were one or two annoying bugs though.

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Anyway, to be honest, ETD was more fun than TEN overall.

I highly disagree. TEN was hard, and you would get cheap deaths due to some camera and gameplay issues, but ETD was unplayable because of all the glitches and other problems it had.

TEN wasn't hard, or maybe I'm just better at games than I thought.

I only had glitches on ETD on my PS2 copy, my GC copy is very good, with only minor glitches occurring. In fact, I've had more glitches on DotD than ETD on GC.

I found TEN that hardest game I have ever played.

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Nah, stuff that furries do doesn't frighten me at all. They do what they do, I do what I do.

I would throw it up at the fan light in my bathroom and then she would be sent flying!!!

My one lost a leg! The Tails one is fine though!

TEN was hard, but the good kind of hard. There were one or two annoying bugs though.

It's not really frightining more than it is just plain creepy. But I like your approach.

If your lucky she'll fly better than she did in DotD.

I just have Knuckles. And my brother has a couple of pokemon plushies.

Yeah it was. It was a nice challenge, but those few bugs made some moments more aggrivating than they needed to be.

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TEN wasn't hard, or maybe I'm just better at games than I thought.

I only had glitches on ETD on my PS2 copy, my GC copy is very good, with only minor glitches occurring. In fact, I've had more glitches on DotD than ETD on GC.

It was really just some bugs that made it hard.

I also tried the GC version, and I still found it pretty bad. PS2 obviously takes the cake though with all the glitches and long loading times.

Yeah, there were a couple of cheap deaths where I thought 'wtf' in TEN. But with bosses and the like, once you see their pattern, it's just like any other game (to me, anyway).

It's not the best even on GC, and I do still agree TEN should receive a higher mark than it, I just happen to enjoy ETD, despite the huge amount of flaws in the game.

Yeah, like that god forsaken ship thingy.

The big reason why TEN got a lower mark is because of the harsh review IGN gave it, which I find rather strange when they gave both ANB and DotD around a 7, while giving TEN a 3. What was the huge difference that made TEN so much worse than the other two? I read the review, and I still don't get it. TEN is simply a harder version of ANB. Sure I think TEN was the weakest link of LoS, but it wasn't as bad as a 3/10. I think Spyro Orange/Fusion would deserve that score, and barely.

I couldn't play ETD. I was only able to get about 30 dragonflies before I had enough and gave it the Official CAV Stamp of Crap-attude.

IGN in my opinion over-rate the wrong games, and under-rate the right games.

Yeah, I don't like IGN reviews either.

I follow all kinds of reviewers. I feel as though IGN is best for gaming news, not reviews. All critics make their mistakes and give a game a silly rating. I feel as though the best reviewers is Gamespot and X-Play to an extent, and even they mess up.

The worst reviewer is Game Informer. Once again, they are only good when it comes to news and previews.

I don't have any favourite reviewer. The reviews Sonic Unleashed on the 360 got nailed the coffin in my trust with reviewers. I actually find "user reviews" the most reliable.

Also, IGN are absolutly terrible at reviews. They docked marks off Sonic 4 for "the final level was too difficult" and "no co-op". Then in their Sonic Colours review, co-op wasn't good enough for them.

Their review for TEN was just stupid. At one point, they said the story was bad, and then later on the reviewer said that the only reason they completed it was to see how the story finished....

IGN (like all critics) is hit and miss. They get it right with some games, and completely miss others. But some critics miss more than they hit (IGN and Game Informer).

Gamespot gave Sonic Unleashed a 3/10 for the 360 and PS3 ports, and a 7/10 for the Wii.

But they did get the hang of the cheap deaths piece, saying how they got used to a dragon yelling as he falls to his death. I always wondered about that, which is why I always wanted a flight mechanic in the games. I saw that DotD had that, and I jumped around like a kid whom had one too many pixie sticks.

You're a cool guy Sonicbrawler.

Lolwut. Did my post bring up a conversation about reviews? xD

Honestly, I think I AM the only one who liked ETD.... Who cares about glitches, seriously, just enjoy the actual game. My version is pretty good, and it's the PS2 copy. Ether my version is just good, or people are underrating the game. :\

The loading times only go on for about 20 seconds. I've not once countered a glitch that froze my game, and only a few areas are glitchy. I know it hasn't been finished, so I don't go hitting it down because of the glitches, which aren't even that bad. To me, people just don't have the patience to wait about 20 seconds for the loading screen. People are overreacting, full stop.

I agree. I just follow my own personal tastes. Also, if I don't get bored while watching a gameplay video, then that's a great sign(if it's fun to watch, then there is a 99% chance it's fun to play). Partly why I got DotD.

I know....less than 06...Sonic 0 Mutha Flippin 6......

I didn't get any cheap deaths platforming wise(as far as I can remember), but I had some in fights. There was an irritating glitch that killed me a few times where I used the move where Spyro pushes the enemy after an air juggle and the game goes into slow motion. I use it to knock enemies off ledges, but occasionally, Spyro decides to follow the enemy during the move, like he's using Sonic's homing attack!

Really? Thanks!

@Dark Cynder: I think ETD is a 50-60% game(I haven't played it in ages though).
In other words, it's not a pile of crap. But it's not that great either. Even if you look past the glitches, the level design is just bland, too many parts where you just walk. And the loading times, on average, are 58 seconds on the PS2 version. I seen a couple of YouTube videos of the game recently, and there are some pretty bad glitches. At least the game looks good(except for some awfully disfigured characters).

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Honestly, I think I AM the only one who liked ETD.... Who cares about glitches, seriously, just enjoy the actual game.

I agree with you. But the glitches render the game unplayable for me, and it isn't enjoyable.

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I didn't get any cheap deaths platforming wise(as far as I can remember), but I had some in fights.

Really? Thanks!

Most of my deaths came from being surrounded by several people and getting hit every time I recover from the previous one. But there have been times where a random bug kills me, or the camera acts stupid and I fall off an easy ledge.

I added you as a friend.

my deaths were completely irrational, random, fast paced, and fun to watch

I've only completed ETD once, and I can't be arsed to play it ever again.

Yeah, that tends to happen in a lot of fighting games like this.

Cool! I'll add you!

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Lolwut. Did my post bring up a conversation about reviews? xD

Honestly, I think I AM the only one who liked ETD.... Who cares about glitches, seriously, just enjoy the actual game. My version is pretty good, and it's the PS2 copy. Ether my version is just good, or people are underrating the game.

The loading times only go on for about 20 seconds. I've not once countered a glitch that froze my game, and only a few areas are glitchy. I know it hasn't been finished, so I don't go hitting it down because of the glitches, which aren't even that bad. To me, people just don't have the patience to wait about 20 seconds for the loading screen. People are overreacting, full stop.

I actually enjoyed it. It wasn't the best, but I do feel that sometimes people exaggerate. Although PS2 is veeeery long loading times, compared to GC

Tru fax - I have encountered more glitches on DotD than I have ETD. Both games have frozen up on me once.

I'm a HUGE fan of the original series and a so/so fan of the newer ones (don't love 'em don't hate em).

So I guess this is a good topic for me.

If you like both series of Spyro, then yes, this IS the right topic for you. ;3

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Tru fax - I have encountered more glitches on DotD than I have ETD. Both games have frozen up on me once.

I didn't. While DotD had glitches, ETD had many more, and it's one of the only 2 games to have ever frozen on me.

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Tru fax - I have encountered more glitches on DotD than I have ETD. Both games have frozen up on me once.

I didn't. While DotD had glitches, ETD had many more, and it's one of the only 2 games to have ever frozen on me.

Well, for me, it was the other way around. DotD had many more 'annoying' glitches compared to ETD.

Well I don't know what is going on. I found many glitches in ETD, and I found them again when I played the game a few days back. And today I play DotD, and I found glitches, but not as many as ETD. And unlike ETD, I did enjoy DotD.

I've heard DotD is very glitchy, but I've only encountered two or three minor glitches. In EtD however, I find it ridiculous how glitchy and slow it is But the glitches entertain me. Sometimes I go back and play it just to experiment with the glitches :3

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I agree. I just follow my own personal tastes. Also, if I don't get bored while watching a gameplay video, then that's a great sign(if it's fun to watch, then there is a 99% chance it's fun to play). Partly why I got DotD.

I know....less than 06...Sonic 0 Mutha Flippin 6......

I didn't get any cheap deaths platforming wise(as far as I can remember), but I had some in fights. There was an irritating glitch that killed me a few times where I used the move where Spyro pushes the enemy after an air juggle and the game goes into slow motion. I use it to knock enemies off ledges, but occasionally, Spyro decides to follow the enemy during the move, like he's using Sonic's homing attack!XD

Really? Thanks!:)

@Dark Cynder: I think ETD is a 50-60% game(I haven't played it in ages though).
In other words, it's not a pile of crap. But it's not that great either. Even if you look past the glitches, the level design is just bland, too many parts where you just walk. And the loading times, on average, are 58 seconds on the PS2 version. I seen a couple of YouTube videos of the game recently, and there are some pretty bad glitches. At least the game looks good(except for some awfully disfigured characters).

Remember that ETD was made back in 2002. The PS2 only just started kicking in back then. ETD, to me, has average graphics considering it was made back in 2002.
Just walk? I've found myself jumping heaps of times. AND TOASTING SHEEP. GOTTA LOVE TOASTING SHEEP. There are places in the first three games were you 'just walk', like Stone Hill in STD.
ORLY? My takes about 20 seconds to load, and I have the PS2 version. But it's platinum. Dunno if that makes a difference.
50-60 is still good. It's above the middle.

ETD had a crap load of glitches especially the farther I went into the game. Which was lame because I was playing the superior GameCube version.

I know there are places like that in the first three, but it was way worse in ETD. And he jumps all floaty anyway. And turns all weird. And charges slowly....

Also, there were other great functional games at the PS2's release. The fact that ETD was simply supposed to be a graphicly enhanced sequel to Spyro 3 makes it look bad that thet managed to screw up basic things.

DotD has it's fair share of glitches, but I have only found two or three annoying ones and they rarely happen, which is nothing in comparison to ETD. Any other glitches are helpful, pointless but funny, or require cheats to perform, and you probably won't find them playing normally, you would only find out if you mucked about. That's how I found my "Cynder's Goin' Up" glitch. Of course, I have the Xbox 360 version, so....

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I've heard DotD is very glitchy, but I've only encountered two or three minor glitches. In EtD however, I find it ridiculous how glitchy and slow it is But the glitches entertain me. Sometimes I go back and play it just to experiment with the glitches :3

Same here. I hear about DotD glitches, but never encounter them. But I have to deal with every ETD glitch under the sun. But they aren't entertaining. They just anger me.

Forgot about this topic!

A lot of DotD glitches I encounter are of the good variety. I can remember encountering a good few annoying glitches in ETD though.

I never really encounter any at all. LOL

^Lucky!

I'm always encountering annoying glitches on DotD still. Never gonna forget that time I lost half an hours work thanks to one glitch

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^Lucky!

I'm always encountering annoying glitches on DotD still. Never gonna forget that time I lost half an hours work thanks to one glitch

Why? What happened?

I remember I used to get a glitch on Grand Theft Auto III and Vice City, sometimes when I completed a mission and I was on my way to the Safe house to save the game, the game would glitch up and freeze, URGH!!!!! Lol.

I had 24 hours worth of play corrupted in my copy of FFIV....
And in Brutal Legend, a glitch happened which made me stuck inside a mountain after I talked to someone. I couldn't get out, so I quit the game. When I went to reload my save, it said "Save Data not found" and a new game started. I went to the save data section of my PS3's XMB, and the data WAS there, but for some reason, the game won't detect it....
Haven't touched either game since......

That's nothing.

I lost over 150 hours (!!!!!!) of play on Pokemon Gold alone when the battery died out. I also lost my original Spyro (and PS1) saves a long time ago when the memory card became corrupt..... But I went back to all of them eventually and re-completed them.

Yeah, but Pokemon is a cake walk compared to those games!
I also lost tons of playtime in two Pokemon games.

I always thought you could replace the battery and your save would still be there. Gah, curse you Nintendo, if I'd known that I would never have transferred my fave Red/Blue Pokes over to it as well

Weird. You replace the battery and your save deletes?

Yeah, apparently, in those games, the battery is connected to the save file. Pfft

That's just a fail!

Guys, are we getting off topic with the DotD scores and whatnot??

Oh, yeah!

I like LoS, but I shouldn't say anything yet. I havent played any classic ones yet. Im getting AHT and its coming (Amazon) today.