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Dark this is a real problem, we need a new system to deal with it [CLOSED]
ignitusforever Ripto Gems: 1788
#1 Posted: 14:14:17 18/09/2010 | Topic Creator
So bassically there has been a lot of trolls lately. Gary_Oak,Texas_Gal, Placeholder943,Wolfgirl, and I am not sure who else. Placeholder943 was the same person as Gary_Oak, as he admitted it in his signature. I alerted Dark, and now he's banned, but what about the rest of them? Texas_Gal is banned, and Wolfgirl is also the same person as Gary_Oak, (Or at least I've heard). We need to come up with a new system that bans anyone with the same email or IP address as a riptoed member. If we don't come up with something like this soon, this stupid person is just going to make more and more accounts.
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#2 Posted: 15:01:29 18/09/2010
Yeah... it ain't that simple, you can easily use different email and IP addresses.
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#3 Posted: 15:22:32 18/09/2010
Stop feeding the troll and giving him the reaction he wants, and he'll get bored
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#4 Posted: 15:34:32 18/09/2010
Quote: dingodile555
Stop feeding the troll and giving him the reaction he wants, and he'll get bored



You know that'll only make the users feed the troll some more right?
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#5 Posted: 15:37:47 18/09/2010
they secretly enjoy trolls, i think
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#6 Posted: 15:43:27 18/09/2010
I know... But I hate them, and try to just ignore them.
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ignitusforever Ripto Gems: 1788
#7 Posted: 17:10:02 18/09/2010 | Topic Creator
I try to ignore them to, but we still can't ignore the problem forever. Evantullay some gullible noob is going to start responding to all these trolls and then there will be war.
bmah Platinum Sparx Gems: 5676
#8 Posted: 22:42:46 18/09/2010
And that's exactly the reason why trolls come; because the site here is full of very young members who are gullible and naive.
It's a REALITY that exists on many forums, simply due to the nature and demography (age group and the people's interests) of a site.

Quote: Kyo Tanaka
You know that'll only make the users feed the troll some more right?


no, the best way is to actually ignore them, which is what dingo said

And since new young users don't always know this, nor can they always control themselves, the best thing to do is to constantly remind them of the best solution when such an issue exists. Constantly, but politely.
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DarkCynder_543 Platinum Sparx Gems: 5350
#9 Posted: 00:42:06 19/09/2010
Exactly. The best thing to do is to ignore them. If everyone does that, and never respond to them at all, they will just get bored and leave

However, then there are the newbies who always just feed the trolls.
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Kyo Tanaka Yellow Sparx Gems: 1819
#10 Posted: 16:55:35 19/09/2010
Quote: bmah

Quote: Kyo Tanaka
You know that'll only make the users feed the troll some more right?


no, the best way is to actually ignore them, which is what dingo said

And since new young users don't always know this, nor can they always control themselves, the best thing to do is to constantly remind them of the best solution when such an issue exists. Constantly, but politely.


And that's possible on this site, how?
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#11 Posted: 19:41:21 19/09/2010
just try it
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Cynder_fan Gold Sparx Gems: 2683
#12 Posted: 23:34:55 19/09/2010
Hmm... IMO you do need a new system Dark. I know you can change IP's and that, maybe you could find a list of IP's that are used for browsing securely and also ban IP's for School Un-Filter server's aswell? Just an idea, then make it block the router IP... Probably a fail but hey, I think of this crap daily for fun.
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arceustheprime Ripto Gems: 5362
#13 Posted: 00:15:05 20/09/2010
im a 10 year old and trolls don't really bother me but yes hey if you want i can help ya cause my dads a complete computer genius well hes a scientest but.........he loves computers and i can ask if it is possible to block them fully without them coming back with new email addresses[probally not possible].
gah he stole meh choclate again.
bmah Platinum Sparx Gems: 5676
#14 Posted: 00:24:45 20/09/2010
It's not a question of who can resolve the issue. Whether you're a dunce or a computer genius isn't going to solve a problem that many other forums have been having. Because if there was a solution, trolling would be a lot less common. The best thing to do is for people to gain some tolerance, as well as not make a situation worse if trolling does occur.
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#15 Posted: 02:12:53 20/09/2010
Bite your fingers and move on, no sense in making matters worse by starting crap with a user that's going to be banned in less than a day.
Cynder_fan Gold Sparx Gems: 2683
#16 Posted: 18:37:19 20/09/2010
Quote: bmah
It's not a question of who can resolve the issue. Whether you're a dunce or a computer genius isn't going to solve a problem that many other forums have been having. Because if there was a solution, trolling would be a lot less common. The best thing to do is for people to gain some tolerance, as well as not make a situation worse if trolling does occur.



For some it's easier said than done, y'know?
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#17 Posted: 03:39:43 21/09/2010
Doesn't offset your responsibility to try.
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#18 Posted: 21:35:25 21/09/2010
No it doesn't. Anyway, ignore the troll, or be random with it.
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#19 Posted: 01:41:12 22/09/2010
Is wg gone yet?
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#20 Posted: 03:09:23 22/09/2010
Yes..
Not permanantly, but for now.
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Cynder_Rox Gold Sparx Gems: 2322
#21 Posted: 11:21:15 22/09/2010
Is it me or is everyone overreacting to the trolls? Hardly anything the trolls have been doing has been bad; they just want to get a reaction out of people and that can be fixed.
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#22 Posted: 14:10:19 22/09/2010
Yeah, but when the same guy comes to the site with 4 different ID's, it gets on your nerves a tad.
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#23 Posted: 14:11:53 22/09/2010
Quote: Cynder_fan
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HOW TO GET UNBLOCKED FROM SCHOOL:

type in: www.www.www.www.www.darkspyro.net

tada
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#24 Posted: 17:02:01 22/09/2010
Trolls never stop, I say just sit back and enjoy the show
Cynder_fan Gold Sparx Gems: 2683
#25 Posted: 17:52:49 22/09/2010
Quote: Ghakimx
Quote: Cynder_fan
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HOW TO GET UNBLOCKED FROM SCHOOL:

type in: www.www.www.www.www.darkspyro.net

tada


Obvious but FAIL:

[User Posted Image]

Try treemixer.com next time smilie

offtopic: baw i miss win 7! >¦'C
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bmah Platinum Sparx Gems: 5676
#26 Posted: 05:32:41 23/09/2010
Quote: Cynder_fan
Yeah, but when the same guy comes to the site with 4 different ID's, it gets on your nerves a tad.


doesn't compare to over a thousand variants like one user I know of :/
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#27 Posted: 02:03:09 28/12/2010
i actually do have a solution....
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#28 Posted: 02:07:12 28/12/2010
I have an idea too.
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#29 Posted: 08:23:09 28/12/2010
Just leave them, and they'll eventually quit trollin'.
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Ghakimx Emerald Sparx Gems: 4064
#30 Posted: 16:10:48 28/12/2010
how 'bout you ding dongs NOT post in a topic as discussed in the topic? I mean, you are REALLY saving effort by doing so. Also, the thing you SHOULD be doing is reporting, not *****ing. cuz sometimes i hold back so hard on trolling you guys, lul.
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#31 Posted: 01:16:02 29/12/2010
SpyroForums has this IP ban thing I think. My sister joined there when I was on there and she got banned and so did I because it was a double account. But now I've a new computer so I got a new account. But I'm just going off topic now...

Quote: Robo-Spyro
Just leave them, and they'll eventually quit trollin'.



I heard that this doesn't work, sadly. They will still keep doing this until they get banned I've heard.
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Cynder_fan Gold Sparx Gems: 2683
#32 Posted: 02:00:22 29/12/2010
Quote: Bolt
SpyroForums has this IP ban thing I think. My sister joined there when I was on there and she got banned and so did I because it was a double account. But now I've a new computer so I got a new account. But I'm just going off topic now...

Quote: Robo-Spyro
Just leave them, and they'll eventually quit trollin'.



I heard that this doesn't work, sadly. They will still keep doing this until they get banned I've heard.


DS and my Wiki have an IP ban, but it's easy to hide or change your IP.
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#33 Posted: 03:51:26 29/12/2010
Pretty much every forum has an IP bans. If a site has a rule against multiple accounts, it's usually a good idea to tell the admin if someone else using the same IP wants to make an account too so they don't mistakenly think you have two accounts.
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#34 Posted: 10:59:01 29/12/2010
I guess I should have done that then. My sister was Cynder!! and I was SPYRO!!, I knew the names sounded the same but she likes copying my stuff. She replied like me as well, she was trying to copy me I think. And I also told her what I thought she should write because she was much younger than me. She even wanted to have the same age as me. I swear it was annoying!
But this is going off topic...
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Robo-Spyro Platinum Sparx Gems: 6102
#35 Posted: 16:38:55 29/12/2010
I hope the site learns how to just have fun with the trolls rather than just blow it for the few who already do. Why discriminate against trolls? They are useful (to us) members of the internet society that provide entertaining arguments even though some would be pi**ed by it.
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Cynder_fan Gold Sparx Gems: 2683
#36 Posted: 23:12:16 29/12/2010
Quote: Robo-Spyro
I hope the site learns how to just have fun with the trolls rather than just blow it for the few who already do. Why discriminate against trolls? They are useful (to us) members of the internet society that provide entertaining arguments even though some would be pi**ed by it.



The aren't usefull. Whats so funny about someone taking the piss out of another person?
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bmah Platinum Sparx Gems: 5676
#37 Posted: 04:35:28 30/12/2010
Quote: Cynder_fan

The aren't usefull. Whats so funny about someone taking the piss out of another person?


Useful isn't the right word. Rather, trolls just provide an act of comedic relief at best. Like scratching an insect bite, it only gets worse if you make a big issue out of it - which unfortunately most people on this site do.
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#38 Posted: 04:47:57 30/12/2010
I've found that telling most people here not to feed trolls doesn't work very well. Most of the time they keep coming back for more and try to outsmart the troll. Which doesn't actually work since they're err. . . trolls.
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#39 Posted: 05:03:47 30/12/2010
Young kids are naive like fishbait. If I posted in forums at the age of 12, I'd probably do that too. It's just something you don't grow out of instantly at that age.

in b4 I get accused of age discrimination
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#40 Posted: 05:18:32 30/12/2010
I see what you mean, and I agree, being 12 myself once.
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#41 Posted: 05:45:22 30/12/2010
Quote: Carmelita Fox
I've found that telling most people here not to feed trolls doesn't work very well. Most of the time they keep coming back for more and try to outsmart the troll. Which doesn't actually work since they're err. . . trolls.



...It's like telling someone NOT to press the big red button. You leave the room, re-enter, and what do you catch them doing? Pressing the big red button. It's a psychological thing.
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#42 Posted: 09:56:30 30/12/2010
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Quote: Carmelita Fox
I've found that telling most people here not to feed trolls doesn't work very well. Most of the time they keep coming back for more and try to outsmart the troll. Which doesn't actually work since they're err. . . trolls.



...It's like telling someone NOT to press the big red button. You leave the room, re-enter, and what do you catch them doing? Pressing the big red button. It's a psychological thing.



In that scenario I can understand, humans seem to be naturally curious about things, so, being told not to press the buton, makes you think what would it do?
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#43 Posted: 12:34:36 30/12/2010
I just try my best to ignore the trollers, I did my best with Ramirez.
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#44 Posted: 12:39:07 30/12/2010
Let the topic die already.
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#45 Posted: 12:41:31 30/12/2010
Quote: Cynder_fan
Quote: Cloudtail4ever
Quote: Carmelita Fox
I've found that telling most people here not to feed trolls doesn't work very well. Most of the time they keep coming back for more and try to outsmart the troll. Which doesn't actually work since they're err. . . trolls.



...It's like telling someone NOT to press the big red button. You leave the room, re-enter, and what do you catch them doing? Pressing the big red button. It's a psychological thing.



In that scenario I can understand, humans seem to be naturally curious about things, so, being told not to press the buton, makes you think what would it do?


Most Users think that "Feed the Troll" is just other users being silly - especially the newer users, or people unexperienced to the web. Other Experienced Users can easily laugh with the troll, playing along and having "fun", however it is mainly, as I said, inexperienced Users who are likely to feed the Troll. For exampole, if there was a Troll who created a Topic entitled "I HATE U ALL!" And insulted the site, those Users would be prey for the Troll and comment on the topic, probably saying some sorta insult back... then it gets nasty.

...I'm not making sense to myself any more. O.O
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#46 Posted: 19:35:19 30/12/2010
Quote: Malefor0001
Quote: Cynder_fan
Quote: Cloudtail4ever



...It's like telling someone NOT to press the big red button. You leave the room, re-enter, and what do you catch them doing? Pressing the big red button. It's a psychological thing.



In that scenario I can understand, humans seem to be naturally curious about things, so, being told not to press the buton, makes you think what would it do?


Most Users think that "Feed the Troll" is just other users being silly - especially the newer users, or people unexperienced to the web. Other Experienced Users can easily laugh with the troll, playing along and having "fun", however it is mainly, as I said, inexperienced Users who are likely to feed the Troll. For exampole, if there was a Troll who created a Topic entitled "I HATE U ALL!" And insulted the site, those Users would be prey for the Troll and comment on the topic, probably saying some sorta insult back... then it gets nasty.

...I'm not making sense to myself any more. O.O


That's the problem, most people don't understand their sense of humor. Even then, some trolls go too far, like Blackholes not understanding how those jesus pics can be seen as offensive.

I don't mind some user having fun, but there should be some limits to it.
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#47 Posted: 19:41:19 30/12/2010
Quote: Bolt
I just try my best to ignore the trollers, I did my best with Ramirez.



This

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