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Spyro and Legend of the Guardians [CLOSED]
minredd Blue Sparx Gems: 698
#1 Posted: 17:39:05 24/11/2010 | Topic Creator
No, this isn't about some story line rip off or how a Spyro movie should be made.

When I got the Legend of the Guardians Wii game, one of the first thing I noticed was it was made by Krome, the makers of ANB and TEN. Normally that wouldn't mean anything, then I watched the credits. Clear as day in the credits I saw "Spyro Team". I didn't have time to take a picture, but I know I saw it. Chances are that Krome used the possible flight and air-battle mechanics from what would have been DotD to make the Legend of the Guardians game.

Opinions? Also, the Guardians game as a lot of fun. Fantastic flying mechanics.
parisruelz12 Diamond Sparx Gems: 7577
#2 Posted: 17:49:47 24/11/2010
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Ice Dragoness Diamond Sparx Gems: 7896
#3 Posted: 18:32:54 24/11/2010
But Krome shut down so how could they have made the game.
minredd Blue Sparx Gems: 698
#4 Posted: 18:38:08 24/11/2010 | Topic Creator
Quote: Ice Dragoness
But Krome shut down so how could they have made the game.

The game was released several months ago, I think early September. I just kept forgetting to post this.
Ice Dragoness Diamond Sparx Gems: 7896
#5 Posted: 19:02:52 24/11/2010
Okay. I suppose the people who made TEN and ANB made that game as well then.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#6 Posted: 19:05:37 24/11/2010
Hmm.... I still don't know whether I would get this. It's a Wii game based on a movie that's based on a novel. About owls. Who make weird smiles. And wear armor.
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NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#7 Posted: 19:49:29 24/11/2010
I want to see some unreleased concept art for DotD made by Krome. Anyone else?
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#8 Posted: 19:51:41 24/11/2010
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
I want to see some unreleased concept art for DotD made by Krome. Anyone else?


just out of curiousity...
*raises hand* :l
did they even make any? :0
NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#9 Posted: 19:55:24 24/11/2010
I dunno, I heard they got some stuff done before they switched to EL...
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#10 Posted: 20:16:53 24/11/2010
Were the flight levels like the ones from ANB or were they different? This sounds rather interesting.
BlackNight12 Gold Sparx Gems: 2343
#11 Posted: 20:23:08 24/11/2010
Hmmm, this sounds worthwhile! is there anyway you could show us the words that you saw in the credits?
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ignitusforever Ripto Gems: 1788
#12 Posted: 23:33:20 24/11/2010
Oh.. that's dissapointing. In that case, DOTD would have been so much more entertaining when it came to flight if Krome made it. Oh well, at least it's in Legend of The Gaurdians.. which I can't play yet. smilie
Wylrin Emerald Sparx Gems: 3784
#13 Posted: 23:45:35 24/11/2010
Quote: Razz
Were the flight levels like the ones from ANB or were they different? This sounds rather interesting.


In the Wii game Legend of the Guardians, you are always in flight in every level. It is very much like the flight levels in The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning, only with attack/defense moves, etc. I think it would have been very interesting if flight in Dawn of the Dragon was similar. That way, we would have been able to fly at different altitudes, make more precise movements, get through different obstacles, etc.
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Dragon Lover Emerald Sparx Gems: 4649
#14 Posted: 00:00:40 25/11/2010
I was considering this game for PS3 here a while back... But this is interesting. May request this for Christmas now.
CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6266
#15 Posted: 05:22:15 25/11/2010
Krome made the Legend of the Gardians game?

That alone makes me want to give the game a rental.

I heard that the game was rather mediocore, but everyone said how the flight mechanics were one of the positives.
Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#16 Posted: 16:23:04 25/11/2010
Legend of the Guardians gameplay

Yep, DotD would have been a lot better with flight levels like this mixed in.
SpyroxCynder Yellow Sparx Gems: 1906
#17 Posted: 16:52:20 25/11/2010
agreed. ^

hmmmm, this game reminds me a lot of DotD. Just the look and feel of the graphics and all.
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#18 Posted: 17:04:33 25/11/2010
If I could find a PS3 copy for $20 or less, I'd probably get this one. I like mediocre games (they make me laugh) and this whole "owls in armor" thing is hysterical to me.
Spyroo Blue Sparx Gems: 867
#19 Posted: 17:05:48 25/11/2010
Ever get the feeling we were ripped off? ._.
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CAV Platinum Sparx Gems: 6266
#20 Posted: 17:10:01 25/11/2010
Quote: Razz
Legend of the Guardians gameplay

Yep, DotD would have been a lot better with flight levels like this mixed in.


It very much would have.

But I'm still satisfied with the flight in DotD. It's just the camera that's the big problem.


Quote: Razz
If I could find a PS3 copy for $20 or less, I'd probably get this one. I like mediocre games (they make me laugh) and this whole "owls in armor" thing is hysterical to me.


I rent mediocre games. Either because I think I could find appeal in it, or because I want to laugh at it when I review the game.

I'd look for a cheap copy for Wii or 360. Chances are that the Wii would be cheaper first.
Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#21 Posted: 17:38:35 25/11/2010
It takes me too long to play games for renting to be feasible, alas.

As for a Wii copy...I don't think so. The Wii and I aren't really on speaking terms unless the game allows me to play with the controller held horizontally (i.e., New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Donky Kong Country Returns).
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#22 Posted: 18:25:24 25/11/2010
Just get a Classic Controller and you will be fine!
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#23 Posted: 18:43:23 25/11/2010
Classic controller doesn't work on games that require the sensor bar. If it did, I'd be playing Mario Galaxy right now.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#24 Posted: 18:58:19 25/11/2010
No, there are plenty of games that use the sensor bar that use Classic Controllers(Mario Galaxy just isn't one of them). Even TEN and DotD on Wii do.
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#25 Posted: 19:03:36 25/11/2010
Huh. I'd not heard that, ever. It's either different in the UK or just not widely known here in the US. Still, it's not worth $20 (or even $10) just to find out that it didn't work. I'll stick with looking for a cheap PS3 copy.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#26 Posted: 19:06:14 25/11/2010
No, it's known to work everywhere. Plenty of SSBB players use it.(Although using the Gamecube controller is also a popular option)
There is a symbol on the back of Wii games that tells you whether or not it works.
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minredd Blue Sparx Gems: 698
#27 Posted: 21:10:35 25/11/2010 | Topic Creator
Quote: Razz
It takes me too long to play games for renting to be feasible, alas.

As for a Wii copy...I don't think so. The Wii and I aren't really on speaking terms unless the game allows me to play with the controller held horizontally (i.e., New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Donky Kong Country Returns).


Get Kirby's Epic Yarn then smilie

And I don't think it's a mediocre game... I had a lot of fun playing it, and the graphics aren't that bad. More fun then I've had with a lot of games recently, ESPECIALLY for a movie tie-in. I don't get why everyone says owls in armor is stupid but dragons in armor is fine. Give the Guardians a chance.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#28 Posted: 21:28:58 25/11/2010
What exactly do you do in it anyway? I mean, their owls, what kind of abilities do they have?
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#29 Posted: 21:30:02 25/11/2010
We've already got Kirby's Epic Yarn. smilie

It looked pretty mediocre to me and I tend to agree with GameSpot's assessment of things (they also said it was mediocre). So did GameRankings (at best out of it's five reviews, I think one of them gave it a 7 out of 10).

Owls in armor is silly and dragons in armor isn't mostly because dragons can be anything (dragon knights aren't new) but owls are birds. Frankly, owls are plenty intimidating by themselves (I've seen one up close); putting human things on them (especially when they don't have thumbs and their talons make better weapons than a sword) just looks funny. Though I thought the armor in DotD was just goofy outright; how did they even get that on?
Spyroo Blue Sparx Gems: 867
#30 Posted: 21:31:16 25/11/2010
Quote: sonicbrawler182
No, there are plenty of games that use the sensor bar that use Classic Controllers(Mario Galaxy just isn't one of them). Even TEN and DotD on Wii do.

Really? I'm gonna have to check my games out again - Most of the ones I play only allow Wiimote. DotD will be so much easier with classic controller.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#31 Posted: 21:32:32 25/11/2010
Like thissmilie:
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#32 Posted: 21:36:08 25/11/2010
D:

Now I remember why I don't like Sonic outside of the cartoons. That's just...terrible. D:

I take it back; owls in armor aren't the most ridiculous things in armor I've seen today.
minredd Blue Sparx Gems: 698
#33 Posted: 21:37:12 25/11/2010 | Topic Creator
I usually don't agree with reviewers, especially not written reviews. I prefer watching video reviews because then you can see what they're doing and hear their voice and tone and know what they mean. Either way I enjoyed it. But then again, it's hard to find a game I DON'T like.

Dragons are just lizards with wings, though, and they don't have thumbs either. If it was a phoenix with armor would that make more sense, because it's mythical? And yeah, owls ARE intimidating. So are eagles. I've got to see both close up and pet them smilie A falcon tried to bite me that day.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#34 Posted: 21:38:52 25/11/2010
I loved that cutscene! And the boss fight that followed....

But when the third piece of armor went on.....OUCH! That's gotta hurt! There's even a huge CLANG!
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#35 Posted: 21:52:49 25/11/2010
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Dragons are just lizards with wings, though, and they don't have thumbs either.


You really don't know your dragons, do you? I've seen hundreds of variations on dragons, including bipedal dragons with thumbs, armor, and human squires for their pets. And, yes, a phoenix in armor would be less silly than an owl because, like dragons, phoenixes can be anything you want them to be since they aren't real. If the Ga'hoole owls were cartoons or designed to look less realistic, they wouldn't look so silly to me. I'm not saying they're bad or that the movie/game/books are bad (haven't read, played, or seen any of them, though I'm going to), but they really do look silly to me.
minredd Blue Sparx Gems: 698
#36 Posted: 21:58:11 25/11/2010 | Topic Creator
I guess you're right, and I'm going on the natural things they were based off of. Phoenixes came from flamingos that we're orange due to a slightly different diet in whatever area they were in.

Sorry I get so defensive over Ga'Hoole. It just makes perfect sense to me since I've seen birds using tools before, why not hold a sharp object? Talons are strong, yes, but some protection and even sharper blades are even stronger, like how we don't fight with swords anymore but use guns because they're stronger.

I think you'd like Nyra. She's your typical chilling female villain. As far as the series, I recommend it. Owls may be odd, but that makes it original in it's own way. Something different from humans, felines and canines.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#37 Posted: 22:00:22 25/11/2010
I will probably watch it anyway, but it doesn't look great to me. Their voices are a little..... I don't know, they just sound weird!
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NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#38 Posted: 22:00:42 25/11/2010
In my mind, if it's fantasy you're making, GO NUTS! I find it silly to limit yourself in the boundless world of imagination with arbitrary rules of fiction. Tch, dragons must be serious, robots must be bland and emotionless, HA!
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#39 Posted: 22:02:29 25/11/2010
I think that too Spyro_LUVA, but I just don't like the general look of Ga'hoole. Don't think it's my kind of thing.
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Wylrin Emerald Sparx Gems: 3784
#40 Posted: 02:04:07 26/11/2010
Quote: sonicbrawler182
What exactly do you do in it anyway? I mean, their owls, what kind of abilities do they have?


The owls in the Guardians of Ga'hoole books actually do have some abilities. It is unfortunate, however, that these abilities were not incorporated into the game. These abilities were rather of the mind than of the body, the abilities to see visions within the flame and the stars. As well as, for some considerably gifted owls, the will power and spirit to resist a great and ancient corrupting evil called fygnrot. Such will power is called 'Ga'.

However, there was one ability that was incorporated into the game. It was called the 'Breath of Qui'. The Breath of Qui was a skillful attack which consisted of taking a deep breath of air, and then exhaling forcfully, giving you a quick burst of speed, in which you would collide into the enemy, that could knock the breath out of their lungs. This would cause the enemy to go 'yeep', which is the owl version of temporarily passing out due to fear, which would cause the enemy to fall to his death. It was considered a noble way of fighting, since there was no blood shed.

In the Guardians of Ga'hoole book series, the guardians were a group of noble warriors who sought peace among the owl kingdoms. They were knowledgeable of, not exactly 'abilities', but better said, 'talents'. These owls were capable of many extraordinary things, for an owl, such as- colliering (the art of plunging into volcanoes and forest fires to grab airborne coals), blacksmith (they made battle claws and other armor), navigation, search-and-rescue (these owls saved young owlets from other evil owls or forest fires), and many others. These were called 'chaws' (classes one would take to exceed in a certain area of talent).

The game is very much similar to the book series (more so than even the movie is! In my opinion). You start off as an owl named Shard, whose father, Grettir, is believed to be a traitor. From there you take on several missions. These missions include airborne battles, owlet rescues, ally escorting, bombing enemy structures (in which you grab hot coals and then throw them at the structure. This also works for attacking enemy owls, you can throw the coals at them... or you can let them come to you- if they attack you while you have hot coals in your talons, you will automatically set them on fire!), etc.

I think I covered the basics, any other questions and I should be able to answer them.
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minredd Blue Sparx Gems: 698
#41 Posted: 02:35:02 26/11/2010 | Topic Creator
...Dang, you explained that a lot better then I could have. Thanks, Wylrin smilie
Wylrin Emerald Sparx Gems: 3784
#42 Posted: 02:38:29 26/11/2010
No problem, for I am a defender of the guardians as well. smilie
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Dragon Lover Emerald Sparx Gems: 4649
#43 Posted: 03:30:51 26/11/2010
Join me, fellow Guardians fan, Wylrin.
DarkCynder10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3346
#44 Posted: 04:39:47 26/11/2010
It would be a cool game, I think...

But one problem: Spyro would probably cook all the owls and eat them. smilie
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#45 Posted: 09:24:54 26/11/2010
I will look up some gameplay to get a better idea, although if I do get it, it won't be for a while. I need to keep my money for LBP2!
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Wylrin Emerald Sparx Gems: 3784
#46 Posted: 01:50:12 27/11/2010
It would be interesting for a Spyro game to be made that includes flying at different altitudes. In my opinion, the flying in Dawn of the Dragon was great! Especially for one who would always spend a lot of time in flyable areas in Year of the Dragon. I am happy with all of the Spyro games - original and legend - the way they are, but I think it would be neat to see Spyro plunging from the sky, diving to the face of the earth to snap some grublin or some bad guy out of the sky. It would be a lot like flying in A New Beginning, only the moves would be more sensitive and you would be able to blow evil villians out of the sky. smilie


Oh, and I simply cannot resist the urge to put this video here:

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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#47 Posted: 02:37:34 27/11/2010
Har! The Guardians footage looks a lot better than DotD.

Man, that's the same trailer that I saw when I first heard they were making the movie. I recall being very surprised that this series of books that I'd seen at Wal*Mart had gotten a big-budget film treatment that looked as nice as it did (though the trailer confirmed my suspicions that it was just the hero's journey as interpreted by George Lucas with owls).

I really don't expect much out of it, but I do like the owls and a friend said the books were neat, so I'll probably enjoy this series (got the books and found a copy of the movie). I do like Nyra already. She's pretty and mean; my kind of lady. smilie
minredd Blue Sparx Gems: 698
#48 Posted: 02:41:39 27/11/2010 | Topic Creator
Dang, you should see her in the books. She actually TEARS an owls heart out to make a point smilie

And Wylrin, I love that video.
Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#49 Posted: 03:10:54 27/11/2010
Cooool! I think I already know who my favorite character is going to be. smilie (When it comes to stuff that's like the original Star Wars, the only time I ever liked the major characters was in the original Star Wars. The villains and sidekicks get my love in all other versions. smilie)
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#50 Posted: 03:37:16 27/11/2010
Very cool video, Wylrin.
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