darkSpyro

Yes, I nearly totally messed up the game, so let me vent the name here where I'm safe; CYNDER CYNDER CYNDER CYNDER CYNDER. I felt this topic is worth the discussion so if the game is lost, the thought can still be open.

*Ahem* Anyway, villainesses. Not got a great track record, do they? Have we ever had a recurring villainess before (ie stays alive as a baddie, does not do a heel face turn nor only appear in one game before disappearing)? Would you like a new PERMANENT villainess? What would she be like?

Some sort of wise dragoness who knows a lot about the world. They could have a bit of a seductive personality and figure, and trys to mess with Spyro's head using both her intelligence and her seductive charm. She would be a bit of a femme fatale.

In another thread called "Create Your Own Spyro Game", I outlined my ideas for a TLoS RPG. I have lots of ideas for both story and gameplay, some I never even wrote down, but never really thought of an antagonist (Although Malefor would make a return). Because of this thread, I went out of my way to think of a villain, so thanks!

Hahaha! Dratted black/gray/blue/purple wretch tries to get into everything, doesn't she?

I'd love to see a recurring villainess in the series. The Sorceress always stood out to me as pretty much the most evil character in the entire franchise (she didn't want to take over the world, she just wanted to rip the wings off baby dragons so she could live forever o.O). It was a bit disappointing that later games in the franchise either used Ripto (with the occasional appearance of Gnasty Gnorc) or created new male villains out of whole cloth instead of bringing her back.

When I was first playing ANB, I was hoping that the Dark Master would turn out to be a similar sort of conniving puppet master to the Sorceress. Alas, it was not meant to be. D: I also had hopes that Cynder would remain or return to being a villain (since that was pretty much her only good role in the series). If she had turned out to be the Dark Master or had at least knowingly betrayed someone just once, I'd have a lot more respect for her than I do.

So we've had two kinds of female villains in Spyro: the older, almost motherly, conniving villainess of the Sorceress and the seductive, crafty almost-villain of Dark Cynder. (I guess Ineptune sort of counts, but she was mostly just a minion who was all talk and no menace.) It'd be nice to see a female villain in the series who wasn't all about sensuality the way Dark Cynder is, but who isn't just a bitter old lady like the Sorceress.

My vote? Either a kindly old lady villain who seems sweet right until she stabs you in the back or a sweet young-seeming kid villain (who is probably a lot older than she looks) who twists everyone around her little finger until the moment she's ready to strike.

Alas, I suspect that's the sort of villain that's too advanced for a kids game. Frankly, I'd settle for just a female villain who was at the top of the food chain for a change (none of this "puppet of masculine evil" garbage we got with Cynder).

I haven't played ANB, so I don't know what Cynder is like as an evil dragon. But she still managed to become my favourite fictional character anyway, so YAY!

She was actually pretty cool when she was evil, one of the scarier villains in the series. I liked how malicious and uncaring she came across as.

I did see some clips of her. She seems cool. I love the way she puts on a sexy, seductive voice sometimes. Also, she looks like kind of like a human in terms of her build. DotD Cynder kind of has it too.

And we're all omitting Bianca. That darn wabbit and her mutating tricks. Yes, she did fall under well intentioned extremist, but that still counts as a villain.

Anyone think I should come up with a name and appearance for that dragoness I described above? (Not right now, but sometime)

Permanent villainess! YES YES YES!!! The villainess' of a movie/game/show is my favorite! (ex: Shego is my fave character of everything, so obviously i like the villainesses) I think Legend series should introduce Bianca as a long-term villain, imo.

Man, if Bianca stayed a villain but still loved Hunter, wouldn't that make for an awesome twist on their relationship?

Yay, Shego! And I'm with you about loving the female villains. I'm a Tomb Raider fan, not because of Lara Croft (though she helps), but because her first villain, Jacqueline Natla, was just that friggin' awesome.

Child villian, who is really a really old...

Abou reccuring villianess...

It would be cool if they actually had a reoccuring villianess,but TBH it seems like the Spyro franchise has a lack of female characters in general.

Sorry, Matesds, but I've already got my plate full with stories and I'm not into anything involving under age girls and the slightest hint of inappropriate behavior. Besides, if I worked on this, she'd be older and she'd forget Spyro and just have a harem of girls.

re: girls in Spyro

There were actually a lot of them early on:
Elora
Bianca
Sorceress
dozens of baby dragons
dozens of NPCs
dozens of enemies
Nanny
Kaitlin
Ember
Ineptune

And that's just off the top of my head. It's LoS that has no girls (okay, it's got one and a half: Cynder and Nina, and that's it).

Quote: Razz

Sorry, Matesds, but I've already got my plate full with stories and I'm not into anything involving under age girls and the slightest hint of inappropriate behavior. Besides, if I worked on this, she'd be older and she'd forget Spyro and just have a harem of girls.

re: girls in Spyro

There were actually a lot of them early on:
Elora
Bianca
Sorceress
dozens of baby dragons
dozens of NPCs
dozens of enemies
Nanny
Kaitlin
Ember
Ineptune

And that's just off the top of my head. It's LoS that has no girls (okay, it's got one and a half: Cynder and Nina, and that's it).

Don't forget the Voice from White Isle in TEN.

Huh. I never even registered that as a character. I figured it was just the Chronicler messing with Spyro's mind (he does that a lot) since the voice was Cynder's.

I don't think of it as a character either, but it is a female voice. . . so I just thought their were more females in LOS, not like that's a bad thing. I mean geeze, even I would be freaked out if there only two females in the entire world o_o!

Having only three doesn't make it any better. D: Heh, maybe that's Nina talking.

I know this is going off subject a little but,Has anyone else ever wondered what happened to Nina and Flash?They were at the beginning of ANB then they were just gone.

All the time! I think they died, though. D: The Burned Lands is right where the Swamp used to be and we don't see any other dragonflies ever after ANB.

Or they probably escaped, and the producers didn't have time to mention Flash and Nina in the trilogy.

I always thought that when Sparx said "Got stuff to do" in DotD, he meant meeting up with Flash and Nina. But obviously, stupid Chief Prowlus knocked them out!

I would of loved to see a scene where Sparx awkwardly introduces Cynder to his parents. Could be pretty funny.

Quote: Razz

Sorry, Matesds, but I've already got my plate full with stories and I'm not into anything involving under age girls and the slightest hint of inappropriate behavior. Besides, if I worked on this, she'd be older and she'd forget Spyro and just have a harem of girls.

re: girls in Spyro

There were actually a lot of them early on:
Elora
Bianca
Sorceress
dozens of baby dragons
dozens of NPCs
dozens of enemies
Nanny
Kaitlin
Ember
Ineptune

And that's just off the top of my head. It's LoS that has no girls (okay, it's got one and a half: Cynder and Nina, and that's it).

HEY! The only only character I conned with word "underage" was Spyro! o_o

i've got a couple of female villians in my stories. none of them have appeared to be puppets for a male villian. either they were equal with an evil male, or were at the top of the evil food chain. i typically try to give my female villians diffrent personallities from the males. where my males seem quick to anger, have more brute force, and care more for the destruction of the world as a whole, my females are more on the calm side. they seem wiser, and make plans, use tricks, and more powerful magically. i normally use adults, but occasionally i use a younger character. sometimes my female villians are even mothers. one of my newer stories, the Descendant, has a female villian who is a mother. this character hasn't been formally introduced into the story yet, but her daughter has. this topic has given me more ideas on the personallities of these two. i will certainly take all of this into consideration as i reveal the newest female villian.