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I made a list of the combat and power things I would like to see in the next game. If you want, you can comment on the things that you wouldn't like there and why...

My choice of Elements are:

• Fire- That's a classic.
  
• Ice- It's seen a lot, can be used to make platforms as said before with earth.
  
• Electricity- It's my favourite element.
  
• Wind- This element would be pretty handy.
  

My choice of Powers are:

• Flight- I love it! :D
  
• Melee Attacks- Makes combat more interesting.
  
• Co-op- It would be cool for a friend to join you in your adventures!
  
• HUD- May not be a power, but in the Original Series Sparx was like the protector of Spyro and the enemies usually only got one hit dead. So this should go for enemies aswell.
  

My choice of Power-Ups are:

• Elemental Upgrades- This will go for around 20 seconds.
  
• Spirit Crystals- I did love those gems, you should know what they do.
  
• Super Charge- That was a pretty cool ability, 30 seconds you should get it.
  
• Elemental Tornado- Instead of your normal element, you will be able to shoot out a tornado of that element.
  

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I made a list of the combat and power things I would like to see in the next game. If you want, you can comment on the things that you wouldn't like there and why...

My choice of Elements are:

• Fire- That's a classic.
  
• Ice- It's seen a lot, can be used to make platforms as said before with earth.
  
• Electricity- It's my favourite element.
  
• Wind- This element would be pretty handy.
  

My choice of Powers are:

• Flight- I love it!
  
• Melee Attacks- Makes combat more interesting.
  
• Co-op- It would be cool for a friend to join you in your adventures!
  
• HUD- May not be a power, but in the Original Series Sparx was like the protector of Spyro and the enemies usually only got one hit dead. So this should go for enemies aswell.
  

My choice of Power-Ups are:

• Elemental Upgrades- This will go for around 20 seconds.
  
• Spirit Crystals- I did love those gems, you should know what they do.
  
• Super Charge- That was a pretty cool ability, 30 seconds you should get it.
  
• Elemental Tornado- Instead of your normal element, you will be able to shoot out a tornado of that element.
  

Just my opinion, but your element ideas are cool, but we can do without any sort of combat. The enemies should have one hit again, I'm tired of these stupid fighting scenes breaking the pace of the game. Spyro was originally what you get when you fuse a platformer with a world that's interactive in ways not imagined before on such a game. Generally, good platformers don't have enemies with health because platformers need paced game play to be good, adding all this fighting just kills that completely.

Adding an HUD kills the interactive part even more, it was cool to see something follow you and change and interact with it's world instead of a static bar that went up and down. I can imagine Sparx was hard to program back then and it seems like somebody went to the trouble of figuring out how for nothing.

If anything the game should be more interactive, we have the technology now. More elements with more crazy effects depending on where you use them, adds the potential for some crazy puzzles and secrets that could surpass even Haunted Castle's twisted Supercharge secret.

I want Spyro's flying levels back, note that I said Spyro and not Sgt Byrd. Not sure how flying would work in a Spyro game based off the originals though, that actually sounds like a game breaker, but I would like it if it were a reward at the end of the game to go back and be able to fly through all the levels, kind of like Spyro's fireball from Spyro 2. That way you can get the flying ability without making clever level builds pointless because people will just fly over all the stuff.

I liked the Supercharge ramps, too. I miss those puzzles, they were so awesome. Supercharging infinitely would be a little pointless though, I mean, it would just be normal charging to the game and it would be designed around it which wouldn't make it 'super' anymore. Again, though, as a power at the end of the game that would be cool.

The wind was necessary for DotD, they had to find some way to make players play the game, but I didn't like the flying in general, it would have been better with the old controls but I guess using those would have been game-breaking as well which is why I think they should just limit flying to certain levels with good flight control and then make it an end-of-game reward. (I would actually love to fly around Dream Weavers...)

TLR: Elelemts yes, fighting NO NO NO, HUD please no, flying yes but only in flying levels and as an end-game reward so the game can still have clever lever design, supercharge yes but only from ramps and end of game reward.

TLR: Elelemts yes, fighting NO NO NO, HUD please no, flying yes but only in flying levels and as an end-game reward so the game can still have clever lever design, supercharge yes but only from ramps and end of game reward.

Stop spamming please. No one even knows whay you're saying some of the time. At least I don't.

*Sigh* I know. At least I'm getting a bit of a laugh from another conversation I'm having with her.

ummmm.what??

@jamieque: I'd like to say tl;dr
it doesn't matter how much you write, people will skip through it. Write what matters most.

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@jamieque: I'd like to say tl;dr
it doesn't matter how much you write, people will skip through it. Write what matters most.

^ This.

And, pretty much everyone knows Shadow Legacy isn't the end of the original trilogy. And I'm presuming you're referring to 'fan made' movies, which aren't what many of us want.

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We have seen no valid indication that thee is a new game in development, it's been over a year since the last one was released, unless there's some new big game in the making that is being kept behind closed doors, I doubt it's on hiatus.

The film was canceled, I don't understand what you're saying about it there. It's not going to be made, there was an official announcement about it on this very website.

It's pointless to try to elaborate on this series anyway, world-building is always welcome but to delve so deeply into meaningful stories like LOS did was excessive. I would like to think the games could be more like the first and drop little hints about what kind of world everyone exists in. There's little story telling you, but you can see it in the actions of the characters, the builds of the dragons, the landscape, the things the dragons talk about and the way the enemies react to certain things, then you can fill in the gaps with common sense and imagination. You even get a glimpse of what kind of dragon Spyro is by how the other dragons talk about him. One quote I remember specifically was "When you free a dragon or step on one of their platforms, you're saving your progress. That could be useful if you run into trouble - not that YOU ever run into trouble, Spyro." You can find that one in Stone hill in the little cave-like area with all those chests. Right there is a glimpse of something that tells you about the character you're playing as, and it sounded sarcastic to me so I guess Spyro's a little mischievous.

I want them to build off of the things started in that game, if you think about it the continuity of it all starts at the second game, the first being merely mentioned at the beginning, as if the first could be considered the prequel, but it's never actually built off of. I think it would be an interesting thing to revisit in a future game if one is ever made.

Who 's says I am speculating or elaborating on anything? Actually, there will be a movie... 3 FILMS AS A MATTER FACT! Just not anything you guys maybe expecting. As for the project... the storyline for it has been in development for years now and no I am not talking about that disaster of a retread film that Legend of Spyro 3D would have been. The storyline of the upcoming 3 Spyro films is brand new material with a slight Legend/Original Universe influence mixed in. In other words, the upcoming 3 films are being set up as Franchise Re-launch that will approach the character of Spyro and his world in a more detailed way while maintaining that sense of fun that the original universe had. In other words, the upcoming films will be everything Legend of Spyro attempted to be but kinda fell short of accomplishing.

Why are you advertsing your fan movie again before you get to the point, jamieque? You always do that.

Yes, it's actually quite annoying.

I don't actually believe that user that typed all that up.

If you're going to post about your fan movie, go post about it to your heart's content in the Fandom section.

I agree with all of these except for one. In my opinion, flying is what makes a dragon what it is and should be allowed on all levels. But, of course, that is just my opinion and I'm not trying to make you change your mind, Feather Dragon.

Also, just a little fighting would be okay.

^ Yeah, it doesn't really matter what is in the game, it really only matters if it's good.

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@jamieque: I'd like to say tl;dr
it doesn't matter how much you write, people will skip through it. Write what matters most.

^ This.

And, pretty much everyone knows Shadow Legacy isn't the end of the original trilogy. And I'm presuming you're referring to 'fan made' movies, which aren't what many of us want.

And who are you to speak for everyone?! And I am not talking about fan movies but MOVIES! I wish people would stop saying fan films like it is a bad thing. Let me tell you something pal fan films or in this case an OAV trilogy of films can be just as professional and detailed looking as the crap that Activision dishes out for us to waste our money on. Besides Activision doesn't seem to care about us or the our beloved franchise. So what do you suggest we do about it... hmmm? Well...? I rather a fan make a professional quality Spyro film trilogy then wait around for Activision to do something because Spyro isn't a very high priority franchise on their list at the moment.

Quote: jamieque

Quote: Spyroo

^ This.

And, pretty much everyone knows Shadow Legacy isn't the end of the original trilogy. And I'm presuming you're referring to 'fan made' movies, which aren't what many of us want.

And who are you to speak for everyone?! And I am not talking about fan movies but MOVIES! I wish people would stop saying fan films like it is a bad thing. Let me tell you something pal fan films or in this case an OAV trilogy of films can be just as professional and detailed looking as the crap that Activision dishes out for us to waste our money on. Besides Activision doesn't seem to care about us or the our beloved franchise. So what do you suggest we do about it... hmmm? Well...? I rather a fan make a professional quality Spyro film trilogy then wait around for Activision to do something because Spyro isn't a very high priority franchise on their list at the moment.

Ugh, the way you responded to me was highly unprofessional.... Hope your films are better than how you respond....

And erm, no, I wouldn't watch a fan movie in a million years, no matter how, ahem, 'professional' they are. And I wasn't speaking for everyone, you clearly should read english - I said 'MANY' people, which is as a matter of a fact, completely true, based on the fact that it will not receive the television or theater 'hype' it needs.

Edit: By the way. You don't own Spyro. Anything made by someone who does not own Spyro and all their material is FAN material, whether you like it or not.

They already created a universe. Why throw it away over some idea Activision thinks will sell well for them?

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Quote: jamieque

And who are you to speak for everyone?! And I am not talking about fan movies but MOVIES! I wish people would stop saying fan films like it is a bad thing. Let me tell you something pal fan films or in this case an OAV trilogy of films can be just as professional and detailed looking as the crap that Activision dishes out for us to waste our money on. Besides Activision doesn't seem to care about us or the our beloved franchise. So what do you suggest we do about it... hmmm? Well...? I rather a fan make a professional quality Spyro film trilogy then wait around for Activision to do something because Spyro isn't a very high priority franchise on their list at the moment.

Ugh, the way you responded to me was highly unprofessional.... Hope your films are better than how you respond....

And erm, no, I wouldn't watch a fan movie in a million years, no matter how, ahem, 'professional' they are. And I wasn't speaking for everyone, you clearly should read english - I said 'MANY' people, which is as a matter of a fact, completely true, based on the fact that it will not receive the television or theater 'hype' it needs.

Edit: By the way. You don't own Spyro. Anything made by someone who does not own Spyro and all their material is FAN material, whether you like it or not.

Exactly!

I also agree. I would never watch a fan movie. Fan movies are just fake movies, just like how you can get fake games, IMO.

Quote: jamieque

Quote: Feather Dragon

We have seen no valid indication that thee is a new game in development, it's been over a year since the last one was released, unless there's some new big game in the making that is being kept behind closed doors, I doubt it's on hiatus.

The film was canceled, I don't understand what you're saying about it there. It's not going to be made, there was an official announcement about it on this very website.

It's pointless to try to elaborate on this series anyway, world-building is always welcome but to delve so deeply into meaningful stories like LOS did was excessive. I would like to think the games could be more like the first and drop little hints about what kind of world everyone exists in. There's little story telling you, but you can see it in the actions of the characters, the builds of the dragons, the landscape, the things the dragons talk about and the way the enemies react to certain things, then you can fill in the gaps with common sense and imagination. You even get a glimpse of what kind of dragon Spyro is by how the other dragons talk about him. One quote I remember specifically was "When you free a dragon or step on one of their platforms, you're saving your progress. That could be useful if you run into trouble - not that YOU ever run into trouble, Spyro." You can find that one in Stone hill in the little cave-like area with all those chests. Right there is a glimpse of something that tells you about the character you're playing as, and it sounded sarcastic to me so I guess Spyro's a little mischievous.

I want them to build off of the things started in that game, if you think about it the continuity of it all starts at the second game, the first being merely mentioned at the beginning, as if the first could be considered the prequel, but it's never actually built off of. I think it would be an interesting thing to revisit in a future game if one is ever made.

Who 's says I am speculating or elaborating on anything? Actually, there will be a movie... 3 FILMS AS A MATTER FACT! Just not anything you guys maybe expecting. As for the project... the storyline for it has been in development for years now and no I am not talking about that disaster of a retread film that Legend of Spyro 3D would have been. The storyline of the upcoming 3 Spyro films is brand new material with a slight Legend/Original Universe influence mixed in. In other words, the upcoming 3 films are being set up as Franchise Re-launch that will approach the character of Spyro and his world in a more detailed way while maintaining that sense of fun that the original universe had. In other words, the upcoming films will be everything Legend of Spyro attempted to be but kinda fell short of accomplishing.

The Legend film was canceled due to many various reasons and considering all the info I heard from inside sources you guys would have not been so thrilled about the Legend of Spyro 3D film anyway. They were having a lot of budget and various other problems with the film. Problems ranging from the animation company wanting more money and time and Sierra at first then Activision not wanting to go along with the deal. Chris and Mike also kinda got pushed a side which didn't sit too well with them. I am not too surprised about that considering the film was supposed to be based on THEIR IDEAS. The writers they brought in weren't that familiar with the franchise and so on and on. In the end, let's just say that the film is part of the reason Chris Wilson went bye bye when he was reassigned. In other words, all the head butting and disagreements from a lot of the people working on the film project inside the company led to film production that was not working out very well and at the same time starting to have budget overruns due to the film taking too long to make. So in the end the film, which was planned as just the opening first chapter of 3 possible films, crashed and burned. Which is a real shame since there would have been some differences from the game in some ways due to the film using some of the deleted story material from the first game.

And when I say deleted oh boy I do mean deleted because Chris and Mike had to trim out or completely modify a lot of material just to get Sierra to approve of going forward with producing the first game of the trilogy in the first place and that was just the FIRST GAME! The two sequels... well they got trimmed because of all the trimming and modifications that had to be done to the first game just so that the trilogy could get produced in the first place. Which is really a shame. A lot of that deleted material would shed some light on many of the characters including Malefor himself. There was way more backstory and info then the Chronicler revealed in Eternal Night to Spyro. And you guys wonder why the games were so short...

Getting back to the film... As for the film, the writers, that were hired to convert the story ideas and premises that Chris & Mike came up with, were trying to expand upon the ideas of the game but due to the limit budget and time they were given the film would probably ended up not making many fans that happy. I know Chris and Mike weren't to thrilled about how things were progressing. The budget being trimmed and reduced along with all the unsatisfactory meetings and various other issues are pretty much what doomed the film from the start. Chris and Mike had this interesting idea that got trimmed and cut down to being a pale shadow of itself.

Why are you advertsing your fan movie again before you get to the point, jamieque? You always do that.

Yes, it's actually quite annoying.

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Yes, it's actually quite annoying.

no it isent

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I also agree. I would never watch a fan movie. Fan movies are just fake movies, just like how you can get fake games, IMO.

Well actually, fan movies are real movies, they just aren't usually licensed. A fan movie is only a bad thing if the user is trying to make money off of it. Otherwise most license holders don't bother with them because they believe their huge companies can always make better products than, what is usually, two or three people, and they know that people will buy it because of the attitude that "fan products suck because they're fake, this is official so it must be good!" This is a common attitude that comes from what the general public sees of fan products, the majority of which end up on Flash sites like Newgrounds and usually have poor quality, most of the good products are buried under it, thus giving fan made products a bad name.

I encourage everyone to give an individual product a chance and judge it on it's own quality and not simply turn your nose up to it just because it isn't official.

My words only go so far though.

STOP DELITING MY POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly, who thinks they should just leave the Spyro games the way they ended? I mean...

Reveal Spoiler

Ignitus is now the Chronicler, Spyro and Cynder are together, the world is saved from the Dark Master...

What else do they have to rebound on?

Aah yes, Thieves Den is the name you're looking for. I never got that far myself, I was stuck in Monkey Monastery for good :/
I really didn't expect the game to be only 9 levels and then a boss fight against Ripto... I saw my brother beat him once, and then he got so bored with the game that he didn't bother to get 100%.

The story doesn't bother me. I thought it gave a purpose for Sparx to follow Spyro. Doesn't make any sense that a glowing bug just appears behind you when you start your adventure but collecting them could have been less of a pain. Maybe make them caged up or something, why would they run from you?

Thieves Den is amazing, the level design was pretty good (bugs aside), none of the minigames were bothersome to me (except maybe the tank one in the honey level) and the game did play like a Spyro game, it just needed more time to be fixed up, graphics needed more polishing and it needed to be longer.

Also, a strange complaint about the game, but I'm a little OCD. You dont get the gems back from Moneybags like you did in the other games and he shows up once. The game would have worked fine without him, he could have been in more areas for comical reasons, but one time? Pointless.

Also if you use the swimming-in-air glitches, you might notice there's a limit to how high you can go. Why would they program something like that into the game? I'm thinking the game had much more to it at one point, including an infinite flight ability, and I've even heard somewhere that 3/4s of the beta were scrapped due to time constraints.