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Continue wher DotD Left Off [CLOSED]
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#1 Posted: 19:31:00 15/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Basically do what the title says. Also, please try ot fill in existing plotholes with your idea, If you can, and don't create more plotholes.

Cynder was still evil, and always was. How could Cynder still be evil after Malefor is gone? Simple: Cynder intended to lead Spyro to the Well of Souls it free Malefor after thier initial plan failed, and later led him to Malefor in DotD. This would explain the chain. But why take him to Malefor when is seemingly makes more sence to lead hi mAWAY from Malefor> This is why: Malefor intended to become one with the Earth's core so he could bind himself with the whole planet and use that to cause mass damage. Cynder learned his plan after being turned evil again, and deliberately helped Spyro 'trap' him there. If that was his plan, why try to destroy the Earth with the Destroyer? He needed the Earth to break apart so he could get to the core and merge with it; he knew Spyro had the power to pull the Earth together again. What of Cynder's 'I Love You'? Continuing the deciet. If Spyro thinks Cynder loves him, he'll never suspect Cynder is betraying him. But how can all this be explained after Spyro eliminated the evil from Cynder? He didn't; Malefor controlled her all along, and there's nothing Spyro can do about it. OR Cynder has her freedom, but chooses to serve Malefor. Why? Any reason really, most likely power.
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#2 Posted: 19:33:36 15/05/2010
Making Cynder the bad guy again. She should've stayed as an anti-hero since she wasn't sure on choosing whether to stay with Spyro and the Guardians or go back to the Well of Souls, wanting to find her own destiny.
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#3 Posted: 19:39:46 15/05/2010 | Topic Creator
^I agree, for the first time who knows how long.

Cynder is Spyro’s sister, not girlfriend. I mean Cynder's I love you could have been meant like bro-sis love. I know, it's not meant like that now it seems, but it could change. I mean if someone like Ignitus, or another guardian made a passing comment about them being bro and sis everyone would just decide that Cynder meant it as sisterly love. Really, if you think about it, there is plenty of room for the love relation ship to change to a sibling one. All Cynder said was I love you and as I just said that could be interpreted as sisterly; it's not like they kissed. If they had then the love thing would have to stay, unfortunately. If it does turn out that they are bro and sis the fact shouldn't be made into a huge thing, like it is new news to the characters. It should be inseted subtley yet obviously into a speech concerning another topic, as though Spyro, Cynder, and all other seminal characters already knew about it.

For example:

Ignitus: Spyro, Cynder.... I could not have more pride in the two of you. With no training or knowledge of your bloodline, you have both sucessfuly harnessed your ancient and mighty family power passed down through the generations, and with it you defated Malefor. As represented by the idestructable chain Malefor burdened you with, the bond you share as brother and sister is too strong to be overwhelmed by tremendous evil, and kept you together through the most cruel twists of fate, and seemingly insurmountable odds. Malefor tried to use this bond against you. When his apes arrived at the temple and saw your egg gone Spyro, Malefor through some twisted magic told them from his prison to steal Cynder's egg instead. Malefor sought to corrupt your sister, knowing that fate could never keep the two of you apart, and by corrupting Cynder you as her brother would be tainted as well. Tainting this entier generation of your family would make you both vulnerable to his dark ways. He knew that Once Cynder became his monster it would only be a matter of time before your destiny would bring you to me so I could teach you of your legacy and begin your training. He knew that once you rescued Cynder the bond of your shared bloodline would force you to remain with her at all costs, and that in time you would eventually fall right into his claws.

Also, imagine a flashback to the temple in ANB, in which Cynder's egg is separate from Spyro's egg and all the others, but on an ornate,cushioned pedastle decorated with the same markings which were near Spyro's egg.

Of course it will be new to the gamers, but if it is new to Spyro and Cynder then it will be extremely wrong, because that would mean that Cynder had unknowingly told her brother that she loved him like a boyfriend.

Whatever happens, the love needs to either end, change into something else, or it needs to be improved upon without it taking over the whole game.

I edited that from another topic I posted on, BTW.
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#4 Posted: 21:44:59 15/05/2010
I'd prefer them to love eachother in the way everyone assumes. They still can improve their relationship if you don't think it works, right? I really don't see the problem with them loving eachother as it is right now. I don't know, it's just my opinion. I just think changing their relationship to brotherly-sisterly wouldn't feel right.
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#5 Posted: 21:57:14 15/05/2010
I actually like the idea. Cynder being evil all along would most likely make a good story, and it would make the series much less predictable. I always felt that Cynder becoming 'good' overnight, for any reason, was a bit cheesy, and was the original reason I started to think of TLOS as farfetched.
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#6 Posted: 21:59:27 15/05/2010
smilieAfter reading that, I do like the idea of her becoming evil. That would make an interesting game. Just not the brotherly-sisterly love.
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#7 Posted: 22:00:11 15/05/2010
Oh gawd.
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#8 Posted: 23:45:17 15/05/2010 | Topic Creator
^What?

Darby, the love thing was WAY too forced! They were enemies in ANB, apart for most of TEN and in DotD they didn't say much to eachother that was really heartfelt or emotional that wasn't just aweful. Cynder's personality was poo anyway. Also, despite the three years between TEN and DotD It wasn't that long ago that Cynder was evil. I heard TEN took place a few weeks after ANB, it lasted for maybe a few days to a week, then they were trapped for a full three years. That being the case, I just don't think that Cynder knows enough about herself to really know what she wants or need in a relation ship. The same goes for Spyro; he grew up knowing nothing of who or what he was, then the rest of his life was full of war. Neither of them had time enough to learn about who they are as indeviduals.
Aside from that, there is another HUGE flaw in the relationship:
There are only TWO young dragons in the LOS universe so far. ONE of those is a female What does that mean? It means that assuming no more females appear in the next game which are Spyro's age or older, it will be Cynder's duty to repopulate the dragon race with Spyro In order for Spyro x Cynder to be at all acceptable, two things must happen:
1. There must be more females of varying ages.
2. There must be more young dragons close to Spyro and Cynder's age, both male, AND female.

I understand and agree that not everyone can like or dislike the same things. But I will politely ask all SxC fans to read this, consider the pairing with this information in mind, and honestly tell me if it doesn't change your opinion of the pairing for the worse, even a little bit.
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#9 Posted: 01:05:06 16/05/2010
I think they should make ONE more TLOS game, just to get rid of all the plot holes in the story line. Then go back to the originals.
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#10 Posted: 01:06:53 16/05/2010
Yup...
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#11 Posted: 01:25:59 16/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Quote: DarkCynder_543
I think they should make ONE more TLOS game, just to get rid of all the plot holes in the story line. Then go back to the originals.


Sounds good. Malefor's 'death' was a bit meh, so they could bring him back again. They could also fix Cynder, beef up thier relationship, make Sparx funny, fix the designs, fill the plotholes, etc. Or, they could just remake DotD, with Spyro commenting on a wierd dream when he wakes up. This way they could keep Spyro and Cynder kids (or turn them back into kids, which ever), fix the plotholes BEFORE they happen, make the game longer, more fun, fix the flight, and all the other stuff I mentioned and do all the other stuff that needs doing.
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#12 Posted: 09:53:28 16/05/2010
TEAL DEER, REALLY!!!

Also, you ale are making MESSIER THAN IT ALREADY IS!! OH, COME ON!!!
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#13 Posted: 11:34:52 16/05/2010 | Topic Creator
I don't see how my ideas generate more plotholes. I think I explained everything pretty well. Also, what do you mean by teal deer?
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#14 Posted: 11:38:21 16/05/2010
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
Also, what do you mean by teal deer?


tl;dr (teal deer)
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#15 Posted: 11:41:07 16/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Oh, well you can't really say my ideas are making a mess of things if you haven't read the explanations. Really, I was carefull to fill in plotholes and not add new ones.
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#16 Posted: 16:12:36 16/05/2010
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
Oh, well you can't really say my ideas are making a mess of things if you haven't read the explanations. Really, I was carefull to fill in plotholes and not add new ones.


For next time, try not to make my brain explode...
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#17 Posted: 16:15:30 16/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Ha ha... It it really too much read?
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#18 Posted: 14:41:42 26/05/2010
i agree with NEW_SpyroLUVA on everything posted above
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#19 Posted: 19:57:58 26/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Thanks.
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#20 Posted: 04:12:19 27/05/2010
they should have shown what cynder had to go through before spyro said Because you've left me nothing to fight for it would be see cynders good side fighting her evil side while evil cynder is hurting sypro
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#21 Posted: 08:15:01 27/05/2010
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
^I agree, for the first time who knows how long.

Cynder is Spyro’s sister, not girlfriend. I mean Cynder's I love you could have been meant like bro-sis love. I know, it's not meant like that now it seems, but it could change. I mean if someone like Ignitus, or another guardian made a passing comment about them being bro and sis everyone would just decide that Cynder meant it as sisterly love. Really, if you think about it, there is plenty of room for the love relation ship to change to a sibling one. All Cynder said was I love you and as I just said that could be interpreted as sisterly; it's not like they kissed. If they had then the love thing would have to stay, unfortunately. If it does turn out that they are bro and sis the fact shouldn't be made into a huge thing, like it is new news to the characters. It should be inseted subtley yet obviously into a speech concerning another topic, as though Spyro, Cynder, and all other seminal characters already knew about it.

For example:

Ignitus: Spyro, Cynder.... I could not have more pride in the two of you. With no training or knowledge of your bloodline, you have both sucessfuly harnessed your ancient and mighty family power passed down through the generations, and with it you defated Malefor. As represented by the idestructable chain Malefor burdened you with, the bond you share as brother and sister is too strong to be overwhelmed by tremendous evil, and kept you together through the most cruel twists of fate, and seemingly insurmountable odds. Malefor tried to use this bond against you. When his apes arrived at the temple and saw your egg gone Spyro, Malefor through some twisted magic told them from his prison to steal Cynder's egg instead. Malefor sought to corrupt your sister, knowing that fate could never keep the two of you apart, and by corrupting Cynder you as her brother would be tainted as well. Tainting this entier generation of your family would make you both vulnerable to his dark ways. He knew that Once Cynder became his monster it would only be a matter of time before your destiny would bring you to me so I could teach you of your legacy and begin your training. He knew that once you rescued Cynder the bond of your shared bloodline would force you to remain with her at all costs, and that in time you would eventually fall right into his claws.

Also, imagine a flashback to the temple in ANB, in which Cynder's egg is separate from Spyro's egg and all the others, but on an ornate,cushioned pedastle decorated with the same markings which were near Spyro's egg.

Of course it will be new to the gamers, but if it is new to Spyro and Cynder then it will be extremely wrong, because that would mean that Cynder had unknowingly told her brother that she loved him like a boyfriend.

Whatever happens, the love needs to either end, change into something else, or it needs to be improved upon without it taking over the whole game.

I edited that from another topic I posted on, BTW.


I believe the company confirmed that Cynder and Spyro ARE NOT brother and sister....
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#22 Posted: 20:32:37 27/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Yeah, but I wouldn't put it past them to change that. I mean, they were stupid enough to make the mistake of saying they were bro and sis in one of the handeheld versions of ANB or TEN.
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#23 Posted: 20:35:52 27/05/2010
That was the game developer's mistake, not the producers.
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#24 Posted: 20:37:26 27/05/2010 | Topic Creator
I know, but I wouldn't be so suprised if it happened like that. There's so many plotholes as it is, what's the real harm in another, if they use it to fix some of the flaws in the story and possiby fill in others?
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#25 Posted: 06:26:48 28/05/2010
You have a good point....
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#26 Posted: 15:30:48 28/05/2010
Spyro finds out that he is really the classic Spyro, Cynder has a relationship with Ember, Spyro has a relationship with Elora.
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#27 Posted: 21:15:48 28/05/2010 | Topic Creator
^ I LIKE that idea!
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#28 Posted: 15:20:51 30/05/2010
Quote: Whitedragon
Spyro finds out that he is really the classic Spyro, Cynder has a relationship with Ember, Spyro has a relationship with Elora.


[User Posted Image][User Posted Image]

I <3 THIS IDEA!
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#29 Posted: 15:28:00 30/05/2010
But, just b'cuz of more annoing fans, let Cynder have baby with Spyro...
Let's say it was in demand of some sick guy (which lots of this fans are anyway...), wanting them to do "that" in fron of him, just because he thinks he can (before getting his 455 PWN'd by someone...)

Oh, we forgot about Flame... SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!
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#30 Posted: 15:31:16 30/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Okay, what to do with Flame? Any ideas?
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#31 Posted: 12:24:08 31/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Who me?
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#32 Posted: 19:13:53 31/05/2010
Glad you were not here when this random guy posted porn pics on here last night. He is gone now.
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#33 Posted: 19:16:08 31/05/2010
i know that was so annoying >:[
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#34 Posted: 19:16:27 31/05/2010
i know that was so annoying >:[
wait last night? that was earlier today.
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#35 Posted: 19:24:57 31/05/2010
Different time zones.
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#36 Posted: 19:31:24 31/05/2010
so your telling me where you are it's after midnight?
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#37 Posted: 19:34:53 31/05/2010
back on topic, and right now its morning.
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#38 Posted: 19:54:03 31/05/2010
after midnight like 1:00?
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#39 Posted: 19:58:08 31/05/2010
No. My time zone is 12+ GST wellington, auckland
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#40 Posted: 21:59:10 31/05/2010 | Topic Creator
Oh, okay. Ew! Porn! DX
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#41 Posted: 07:04:15 01/06/2010
We learned about 34 hard way.... Again....
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#42 Posted: 07:04:44 01/06/2010
Back that Flame thing
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#43 Posted: 10:50:22 01/06/2010
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
Okay, what to do with Flame? Any ideas?



He falls in love with Hunter.
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#44 Posted: 13:06:08 01/06/2010
Quote: Whitedragon
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
Okay, what to do with Flame? Any ideas?


He falls in love with Hunter.


This Yaoi is not possibul anymoar, HunterXBianca thingy...............

DOCTOR OCTAGONAPUS BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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#45 Posted: 16:22:41 01/06/2010 | Topic Creator
How about Bianca falls inlove with Sheila or Bently, or they become a threesome.
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#46 Posted: 16:25:20 01/06/2010
Hunter from Legend of Spyro. Hunter from classic is with Bianca, or have they split up... Sheila X Spyro anyone? And @ above I agree.
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#47 Posted: 17:10:42 01/06/2010
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
How about Bianca falls inlove with Sheila or Bently, or they become a threesome.



EWWWWW
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#48 Posted: 19:40:11 01/06/2010
That proves how immature you are.
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#49 Posted: 19:52:52 01/06/2010 | Topic Creator
smilie I actually like Spyro x Sheila. And no, they haven't split up Whitedragon.
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#50 Posted: 20:09:27 01/06/2010
thanks for correcting me, I meant to suggest they split up. I agree, Spyro X Sheila is quite a decent couple. Cynder X Sheila?
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